Faith Donkin
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Doing my best to grow up into a thooroughly indecent and deliberately defiant old lady. Don't mess with the OWLS.
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@JammersMinde
how about - 'any man or woman can decide that they don't think sex matters in a particular situation; what they can't do is compel anyone else to believe that sex doesn't matter in a given situation. Other people's boundaries remain the property of other people.'
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@babybeginner
if he cant stop for the big white car he wouldn't have been able to stop for the stroller.
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@igarglewithfire
when women say 'men hate women' we're talking about the man who stabbed his pregnant girlfriend 40 times with scissors. When men say 'women hate men' they're talking about the women who talk about the guy who stabbed his pregnant girlfriend with scissors 40 times
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Men who don't like or respect boundaries and want to remove them are often precisely the sort of men the boundaries exist to exclude
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@JunusAnna
yup - I've seen it described as a 'kill switch' men can at any time just decide women aren't allowed to do a thing together and shut it down.
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@peterjukes
women are a kind of human being who can have any feelings not a kind of feeling any human can have. If you genuinely have no idea why women might resist dehumanisation and erasure you COULD try listening to us about the impacts and problems it causes.
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@babybeginner
remember when Jimmy Saville was sexually assaulting girls and young women on live tv with a smug grin and everybody was all like how did we let this happen?
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@HJoyceGender
to force banks to NOT challenge it when a man calls telling them to do things with a woman's account makes all women more vulnerable to fraud and abusive financial control.
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@ask_aubry
You should be easily able to tell the difference between the girls shorts and the boys shorts as the girls shorts won't have pockets will be lower quality and higher priced.
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@theresaverity
@Keir_Starmer
you are entitled to many things from the nhs. Access to non-consenting women isn't one of them.
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Are you now or have you ever been a mumsnetter?
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@manfy90
@NoCisgender
@tom_watson
The belief that trans women will have the offending profile of women rather than the offending profile of men is an ideological one not supported by the evidence - policy and law should be based on evidence not faith. And you don't get to consent for other women.
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@garylfrancione
I call this Schrodinger's violent male. The argument that men are so honourable, trustworthy and harmless that women's fears are entirely irrational; whilst simultaneously so murderously violent and unstoppable that trans women's fears are entirely rational and reasonable.
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@Ellie_Angharad
Women with short hair and trousers haven't been controversial in these parts in a hundred years
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I do not for one second believe men don't understand this. They wouldn't do it to a guy they didn't know.
Please don't do this
Even if there's nothing behind your decision to sit next to me on an otherwise empty bus, it immediately puts me on edge
I can't be alone in this, surely
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@questionableway
If you can only tell the difference with a microscope that's not a very persuasive argument to me
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@scotmacscotbot
any adult man dressing as a schoolgirl should be treated as probable cause for a hard drive test.
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@acousticpi763
@monocrop_
Entirely plausible but I did know a 4 year old girl who hard been deaf since birth whose hearing suddenly started to work fine after a sharp accidental knock to the head; apparently that is a thing with hearing.
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@TiffaniDeems
the average guy is stronger than 97% of women. If girls aren't free to play with other girls we'll go back to how it was in my childhood where almost no girls did any sports whatsoever outside of school pe lessons
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@ACBofficials
women are human beings not household appliances, it isn't just men who need a society which values their achievements
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@Wommando
@BevJacksonAuth
It is remotely possible that the best people to understand and talk for the teenage girls desperate to avoid being treated as an object of desire aren't middle aged men desperate to be treated as an object of desire
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@kevH_27
No one, and I say this after careful and thorough consideration should be giving 8 year olds a book that says 'welcome to sex'
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@ShayWoulahan
if men suceed in dividing women into 'good women' & 'bad women' a fair number of women are keen to publically demonstrate quite enthusiastically that they are on the 'good women' side
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@FeministRoar
What it feels like to see a man take first place in your category and be expected to smile and clap.
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@Gaynotqueer1
episode
#1
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@ilovepreserves
Some men will say and do pretty much anything to try to get women to pay them attention.
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@spy_historian
@helenstaniland
@galluslass
all men who demonstrate an aversion to the word 'no' and a lack of respect for the feelings of women, with an feeling of entitlement to go into spaces which the women believe and wish to be single sex have given more than ample reason for women not to trust them.
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@teachwellall
Many schools in the UK have 'cracked down' on girls being allowed to go to the toilets when they need to, have stricter policies about girls being allowed to have or be given painkillers at school and some now have mixed sex bathrooms.
Girls absences due to periods have risen.
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@AnnelieseDodds
@AshleyDalton_MP
telling gay children they can grow up to be heterosexual members of the opposite sex IS conversion therapy.
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@Indy4Scotss
@ForWomenScot
@olafdoesstuff
Stop saying I'm not a woman, it's really really offensive.
Adult human females are important enough to deserve our own word. If you want to describe a concept other than ahf use a different bloomin word.
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@JMoncktonSmith
she was exaggerating all those times she called the police but yeah you had strangled her before that time when, completely out of the blue and out of character you killed her.
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@NerdoChris
@SVPhillimore
@H_A_Wilcox
@thespiralquirk
It all so regressive, women are women because they're women. Almost no women wear make up and 'feminine' clothes all the time. Not wearing make up doesn't make (a woman) any less of a woman, just as wearing it doesn't make a man any less of a man.
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@jakelibdem
Adult human females are a significant enough group of human beings to have a word to refer to us in law and policy. To assert this is not to attack or belittle anyone else. To argue that this is not the case is almost unbelievably misogynistic though.
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@sherlockmichael
@angijones
yeah, if men are allowed in the women's single sex spaces there are no women's single sex spaces.
Spaces which only exclude good men are only really wanted by bad men.
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@NicholasPegg
If you want to judge the calibre of a man, look at how he speaks to and about women who disagree with him.
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@authorjla
@holyroodmandy
What women are telling you is that there are some very good reasons not to redefine these words in that way. Adult Human Females remain significant enough both conceptually and in practice to have a word to refer to us. Want to refer to a different concept use a different word
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@babybeginner
😠I'm sorry* there is no word(s) in our special new language to describe the concept that you describe because we have erased that concept for being a bad concept because that concept doesn't include (men).
Do you see why lesbians might not agree with being erased?
No...
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@JunusAnna
@thetimes
I think the reasons are much more social than biological but sexism is still a big factor in the lives of a lot of women/girls. My dad taught me to play and was super encouraging UP until the first time I beat him, which was the last time we played.
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it was once 100% accepted safeguarding advice to tell children 'never discuss sex with strangers on the internet and NEVER trust an adult that tells you to keep secrets from your parents' - when that changed (some of) the mums objected, and we were told the mums were the problem.
1./ Earlier today I emailed LGBT Youth Scotland to ask if the Andrew Easton who co-wrote their 'Guide to Coming Out for Trans Young People' is the same Andrew Easton who raised funds for them on Facebook ...and was found guilty of distributing images of child sex abuse.
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@DawnButlerBrent
some ideas are bad ideas Dawn. The freedom to discuss and question ideas is the basis of a functional post enlightenment liberal democracy. No good idea in the history of civilisation ever needed to be protected from people thinking about it and asking awkward questions.
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@Wommando
Our society cannot tolerate this level of misogyny and survive as 'our' society. Women belong in the world, not hidden and silent.
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@godblesstoto
Men always say they want to be treated like a woman until they are, then they don't like it.
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@robjessel16
Tavistock where distressed parents can take distressed children to meet with paedophiles to discuss sex.
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@sianharries_
"in the UK 58 percent of women killed by men are killed by a current or former partner. Often in these cases, the killing of a woman follows months, years or even decades of violence, abuse and coercive control. "
alone with cats is far from the worst outcome
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@overitall69
@MailOnline
risking women's lives for no other purpose than to ensure they are more effectively stripped of their rights is repulsive and dehumanising.
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@jimbarleycorn
@wesstreeting
@jk_rowling
so if it's true that some people in some circumstances should take rat poison because the pros outweigh the cons does it necessarily follow that we should give rat poison to children where there is no evidence of benefit?
Or does everyone deserve evidence based medicine?
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@AlanaEen
@ejrosetta
Rules of Misogyny
#9
. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.
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@ReduxxMag
sod everyone who taught him beating up girls was a legitimate response to them saying things you don't like. Sod everyone who taught him that if he didn't like reality he could just demand everyone ignore it.
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@BornSlippy96
@youmemmatsix
people go to see the doctors about things that aren't cancer Zayne, is it only women's needs that are a waste of time or should no-one see doctors about anything (that isn't cancer)
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@BertDalziel
balance in all things literally means let your kid have the odd chocolate button. lol.
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@AVagabond5
@KimIversenShow
Meaningful language is sometimes more important than inclusive language. Say two 'men' have penis in vagina sex, ONE of them might get pregnant. It is not random which one. Only one is at risk of an unplanned pregnancy. It is possible to use contraception. Sometimes sex matters.
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@Jayden_HoJo
I don't disagree it's so proposterous it's really hard to believe we're supposed to take it seriously
This man does not believe women should be allowed to talk to each other without male supervision
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@TransHomophobes
@STILLTish
Because what every lesbian social event needs is furious heterosexual men angry at their unreasonable refusal to consider them as sexual partners?
Sounds like a fun time for everyone concerned and not at all awkward...
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I'm so old I remember when never trust an adult who tells you to keep secrets from your parents and don't share personal information with strangers on the internet was uncontroversial advice for all kids
I am so tired of this greasy looking horse toothed insane man trying to grab children from their families.
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@Archie_Saunders
Teaching homosexual girls that the man's feelings matter more than their sexual orientation is the opposite of progressive and I would rather the school made no attempt to teach our daughters how to be a lesbian than they teach this regressive nonsense.
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@DaveLukewarm
It's called the broken step. You wouldn't believe how common it is. Sometimes the only thing women are actually empowered to do is warn other women.
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@Swoletariat69
@Serena_Partrick
women don't have to try to look like women because whatever women look like is what women look like.
it isn't a prettiness test men can pass or women can fail because it isn't a test of how pretty or feminine a woman is.
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@JunusAnna
The main reason I stopped with the compromise type language is that it is impossible to refer to women in any words in any way for any reason which will not offend the men who are angry when women speak about themselves.
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@inmyownfashion2
💯🎯if a man can be a woman then the word woman has no meaning, and becomes an ineffable mysterious term with no basis in reality. And the laws and policies using this meaningless term are themselves meaningless.
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"JK Rowling could wake up every day, bathe in money, tweet some jokes, and write her stories. Instead, she does what she does..."
and you have no idea how grateful we are Gabino; even if dehumanising women never seems to go out of fashion...
JK Rowling could wake up every day, bathe in money, tweet some jokes, and write her stories. Instead, she does what she does…and then uses Robert Galbraith as a pseudonym to drive the point home. What a hateful, sad person. And I’m not arguing with her defenders, so don’t start.
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@theDykeProject
It's cool to assert trans people aren't broken or sick. It would certainly then seem to follow that they don't need mending or healing. You can't fix what isn't broken.
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@CherieCurrie3
@Empiricist871
Precisely telling a homosexual boy the doctors can make him grow up into a heterosexual man is conversion therapy. Cruel and ineffective. Telling him the doctors can make him grow up into a heterosexual woman is not better is also conversion therapy and is still cruel and untrue.
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@lecanardnoir
I just saw Richard Dawkins 'doesn't really understand evolution' which, you know, is quite the claim even by today's standards.
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@TheStephOfStars
@SVPhillimore
burger shaped cake is cake not burger no matter how amazing the illusion
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@Daniel_Laycock1
Adults asking small children about who their sexual feelings is a breech of privacy and safeguarding no-one should support.
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@mypalfootfoot7
Depends on your conception of nice. Sending men to women's jails seems like the opposite of nice (to the women) to me, telling girls there's no space on the team because a boy took their spot seems like the opposite of nice.
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@WomenReadWomen
he's "narcissistic, compulsive, aggressive, violent and sadistic" but sure by all means try to convince me calling him a man is insulting him.
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@salltweets
@jk_rowling
@JolyonMaugham
when a 3 year old boy says he's a girl apparently it should be treated as an informed and expert opinion. If his 33 year old mum says he isn't we should disregard if she's not a neuroscientist.😉
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@septicstepic
@janeclarejones
everyone is more than just their sex. Of course we are all multi faceted creatures. But sex is one of those facets and we need to be able to honestly and accurately name it for the purposes of law and policy.
Sex is the only thing all women have in common
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@salltweets
@Sargon_of_Akkad
Absolutely 💯✅No woman with a 'bodycount' of 58 is a) using the word 'bodycount' or b) keeping score.
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@AiyonaWuruhi
yes men should totally be in control of who is and isn't allowed in *checks notes* the women's toilets.
Because that's progressive for sure
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@igarglewithfire
right so when you say 'women' you mean a really small sub set of women and you're generalising to make the point generalising is bad
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@NoCisgender
A woman who calls herself a cis woman is signalling that she is one of the submissive / obedient / virtuous women that like the women who deserve to be attacked. That she accepts and is comfortable with her role as support human.
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"Girls have reportedly not tried out for the team bc they know they will have to change in a room with a boy. " - and there we have it guys, an entirely predictable outcome. So angry for the girls.
The girls on this track team have been forced to huddle together in a corner of the locker room to change so they can have a tiny bit of privacy.
Girls have reportedly not tried out for the team bc they know they will have to change in a room with a boy. 1/
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@Nettleshippy
one imagines that the men's disguises were very effective. remove wig and mini skirt and hey presto a totally new person...
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@Ghostlymostly26
@BloodBecoming
if you would like to describe a concept other than female homosexuality please use another word thanks
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@ultimatepool_
I'm old enough to remember when there were no women's pool competitions. Oh wait that'd be now.
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@MForstater
it is impossible to complain about the creepy guy if you aren't sure he's ok with being described as a guy so this is not really an adjustment to the social contract that works for women.
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@UCUCommons
Nothing anyone can feel will mean that medical ethics don't apply to them, and that they're not entitled to evidence based medicine. Children deserve help that actually helps.
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@ZackPolanski
@TheGreenParty
as a thought experiment try to imagine you're wrong about this. what if pb didn't help trans kids and instead had dangerous and negative effects. You'd want someone to notice right? you'd want the people who noticed to say something right? Who would notice what would they say?
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@_cupofteafather
@mara_yamauchi
Looks like a touch of rule 14 there sir, your casual misogyny is noted. You may file this under 'things which can't possibly be a problem if they aren't a problem for me'
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@SouthpawLeftist
@Riley_Gaines_
@Outkick
@WVGOP
@MorriseyWV
Girls should be allowed to have *checks notes* middle school sports. Girls don't exist purely to make boys feel better.
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@JujuliaGrace
if a man wants to watch me change at work whose feelings matter as to whether that is ok and appropriate.
a) only his
b) only mine
c) his, my managers, and the majority of the women who work at the company
d) trick question, no woman can consent on behalf of other women.
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@Artofhunger75
@theboybailey69
You are right and not wrong; it is simple.
It's simply rule 8
8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
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This sign rasises more questions than it answers. Does anyone know what this even means? Is a 'trans dog' a man who identifies as a dog or a dog who identifies as something else, and if the latter how would you know?
Someone made a decision to write this sign. Thinking about dogs biting women.
#LetWomenSpeakEdinburgh
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@KemiBadenoch
I am pretty confident one day you'll be the 4th woman to be PM, whether you win the next vote or not
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@dadandgone81
@Fontybits1
if IW was a woman you wouldn't care about her feelings any more than you care about other women's feelings.
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@poiu477
@Michael_AW77
@hotelbarpodcast
@Docstockk
The idea that transwomen have the offending profile of women rather than the offending profile of men is an ideological position which is at odds with all available evidence.
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@sharrond62
💯🎯I support single sex services. Where sex does matter it is sex that matters not gender identity.
Men and women can do whatever makes them happy and comfortable; up to a point. It will always only ever be up to a point because other people exist and they matter too.
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