Allan Savory
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Addressing the cause of biodiversity loss, desertification & climate change through management & policy development that is holistic.
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Just had a nice message from a Vegan. “I love your work. I just want to add that you might appeal to Vegans by mentioning that animals need not ever be killed and eaten, just allowed to breed naturally growing their population to further heal the Earth.”
Unfortunately, Nature is
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An ecologically illiterate person with a large megaphone doing immense harm to all humanity unintentionally tragically.
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Right what critics demand - greatly reduced sheep. Left managing holistically using greatly increased sheep numbers to address climate change. Science vs emotional beliefs.
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Our grass because of over 400% increase in cattle running with great increase in elephant, etc What
@GeorgeMonbiot
& fans calls anecdotal because academics agree with one another that something they have never studied & don’t understand is not supported by science!
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One side being destroyed by too many sheep the other managed by US National Parks service - no sheep & thousands $ spent on soil conservation works. One condemned the other praised. Surely we should be able to tell the difference after 40 years?
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Most amazing reversal of biodiversity loss & desertification fueling climate change that I have ever known - and at no cost. All we ever need to do is to address the cause of any problem - it is as simple as that. This was achieved by greatly increasing all animal life - wildlife
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In 1960s I worked out how cattle could reverse desertification & documented results including an international trial. In our Orwellian world proof by authority is science while documenting results is anecdotal.
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By email
@GeorgeMonbiot
says he can’t find a venue for us to debate in London & is too busy to do so. He asks my wife & I in Africa to arrange it Will do our best while not understanding why it is hard for a Guardian columnist living there. Will keep interested parties informed
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This is why I fear for future generations due to such monumental institutional stupidity.
American agriculture, including the severe desertification even in some National Parks in the Western States, is the most environmentally destructive ever in history. Vast regions larger
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Oh how I wish we could have Monbiot & any climatologist debate with me before such unscientific animal bashing rubbish does further damage to all life on earth by furthering global desertification and climate change. Can anyone arrange that?
I've spent my working life telling people what they don't want to hear, so I'm accustomed to receptions like this. But I don't think shooting the messenger is going to help farmers understand and face what is coming.
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Our river flowing clear & 2 nearest rivers same time. We have far more cattle & wildlife. Difference is management they herd cattle traditionally & we herd cattle as habitat management tool using the holistic planned grazing process - a world of difference
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No contrast can tell more than boundary contrasts. One side ignorance & overgrazed by sheep - other side millions dollars spent on reclamation & no livestock now about 100 yrs. The best government, universities & environmental organizations know how- Tell me which is which?
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My dispute with
@GeorgeMonbiot
& fans is sadly not constructive & just pitting people believing in managing holistically, embracing all science, against those believing management should be reductionist with little understanding even of what “science” means.
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I genuinely dislike being negative or critical but all of humanity faces greater danger now than ever. The global loss of biodiversity, leading to desertification fueling climate change and feeding on each other couldn't be more serious. If it continues all businesses,
🐑 NUTRITIONAL BENEFITS 🥩
Our research team summarise a new research paper titled ‘The nutritional value of meat should be considered when comparing the carbon footprint of lambs produced on different finishing diets’.
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🗣️ “As with all ruminants, if sheep consume a 100%...
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George save your ammunition till we debate. Come armed with more than citing academics when not one you cite has studied my work. I have said managing holistically will save us & never said cattle ranching would. Does accurate writing not concern you?
As Allan Savory has resumed his campaign to persuade us that cattle ranching will save the world, I’ve decided to publish on my website an extract from Regenesis, in which I examine his claims and the science (or lack of) behind them.
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For me this good news is also highly amusing. Amusing because for over sixty years since first pointing out that only livestock could do what was needed (and not machinery, fire or chemicals as all universities and experts believed) I have had to endure astounding ridicule &
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Two climate scientists retired from Princeton & MIT state climate regulations “ aren’t based on scientific facts but rather political opinions and speculative models that have consistently proven to be wrong”.
They argue how much is based on peer-reviewed
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Like you I hated livestock destroying the wildlife I loved until I learned how wrong I was. 30 Nat. Parks here with no livestock show severe biodiversity loss. It is the agricultural policies not the sheep. Please comment on this
The unavoidable truth is that there are far too many sheep in Britain. If we are serious about restoring nature in our terribly bare upland national parks, we must generously support farmers in a transition to a gentler way of farming than sheep.
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Tragic to see such ecological ignorance leading to so many highly intelligent people believing governments (politicians) can develop policies managing institutions, economy and Nature to produce all the forms of food we need, using simply more technology and money to beat global
@AllanRSavory
@SavoryInstitute
feels like a project that could be improved with holistic grazing.
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In early 1965 when I realized that we could never address the loss of biodiversity & consequent desertification fueling climate change, without livestock, we faced a problem – how could that be done?
Every way pastoralists & farmers had managed livestock over ten thousand years
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The term AMP grazing was first generated in 2014 by Dr. Teague cuz he couldn't get anything published in science journals using the term HPG. Why? Allan was too controversial. This is also why when people look for HPG or HM in the scientific literature, they don't find many
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Finally we will have a debate between myself promoting a way to address global biodiversity loss desertification & climate change and my most vocal & strongest critic of the past 10 years - Many have asked for the details which are now available
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Soil loss in US New Mexico given to me in 1982 by NRCS when they engaged me to train 2,000 officials who helped me develop Holistic Management framework - then their agency banned further training when they concluded “that unsound resource management was universal in the U.S.”
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Thank you. You understood what
@GeorgeMonbiot
& many people missed when he put out a smoke screen to avoid debate. Desertification in seasonal rainfall environments (brown areas below in picture) is due to loss of biodiversity caused by slow chemical oxidation that replaces
@Veganella_
Not many people caught on to what
@AllanRSavory
did that night, especially not
@GeorgeMonbiot
. If oxidation and the way humans approach policy are really the problem then the hard pivot from carbon science was justified in my opinion.
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@GeorgeMonbiot
As a journalist is there no code of integrity? I have never said cattle ranching can restore the planet, that the scientific method is wrong & you have never interviewed me, but as a provocateur you feed on fan adoration it appears.
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From the anger against me for addressing the cause of climate change it has become clear most people on both sides don’t understand 2 things:
Almost all research needs to be reductionist
All management (mainly how policy is developed) has to be holistic.
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Without agriculture we cannot have a choir, church, business or economist & until agriculture is regenerative no business in the world is sustainable. Nor is any economy. Global finance & ecologically illiterate economists are driving environmental (and thus human) destruction.
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The danger of people in humid regions ignoring most of the world. Ignores reality of research plots in seasonally humid regions (most of world’s land) with no grazing at all losing biodiversity as you see in this US Govt plot & explained in my TED Talk
May I introduce you to the concept of ecological succession?
When intense grazing pressure stops, ecosystems begin to recover. Bracken, brambles or gorse might be first to return, followed by pioneer tree species, followed by other tree species. "Scrub" is regenerating woodland.
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We will be lucky indeed if deaths are limited to one Billion - because no government in the world is yet even talking about the cause of global biodiversity loss, desertification and mega-fires fueling climate change. All are still blaming fossil fuels and livestock mainly. I
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Spent yesterday in national park showing visitors the destruction by wildlife when no longer wild but what tourists want so they can fly in & take pictures adding to GDP & economy driving environmental destruction for Homo sapiens.
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@GeorgeMonbiot
Receiving Australias 2003 international award “for person doing the most for the environment on a global scale” George they gave me this for faking pictures -amazing what I could do with airbrushing! Why do you need to be so insulting?
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I just responded to
@GeorgeMonbiot
When are you going to respond to my suggestion to stop bickering & to collaborate in solving global biodiversity loss leading to climate change? Again here it is How do others feel?
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Interesting new research but not surprising
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An excellent short video explaining the role of livestock as a tool to begin addressing the cause of biodiversity loss desertification over most of our world’s land where humidity is seasonal What
@GeorgeMonbiot
& fans tragically so viciously oppose.
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I am amazed at the attacks on me by crazy people over so many years for the “crime” of discovering the cause of global biodiversity loss desertification & climate change from a complex background of ecologist, researcher, soldier, anti-racist political party leader ...
Millions have watched
@AllanRSavory
's TED talk on 'holistic grazing', but how many are aware of the white supremacist origins of the concept?
(Never mind the total lack of scientific credibility.)
@GeorgeMonbiot
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I have seen over 60 years of blaming anger violence & worsening situation & 27 climate change conferences end is confusion. Please read this & if you agree don’t just like retweet retweet retweet till we bring it about and give our grandchildren a chance.
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Thankfully one nation is showing there is intelligent life on Earth I hope you
@GeorgeMonbiot
will read take note of it and find it helpful.
Viewers might like to also look at this one minute video showing that people are seriously addressing climate
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With so many people promoting rewilding over much of the world as a solution to biodiversity loss desertification & climate change I wish every human could just see this & understand such over-simplification does not suit all environments
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There is apparently no end to academic stupidity in the real world. As long as it treats a symptom (water runoff) does not address the cause of desertification and costs a lot while using technology it gets published & must be "scientific". That cattle or sheep hooves do this
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No, Bob the anti-livestock people tragically are unknowingly reflecting thousands of years of belief that livestock overgrazing cause desertification, and latterly also climate change. A belief, not supprted by any science, as we discovered in about 1965.
There are literally
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Everyone concerned with the future of your family whether billionaire of begger I urge you to listen, at least, to bits of this interview
If impatient go to 1:21 to start, if more impatient with short attention span start at 1:40 & stop if anything is more
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I was told 50 years ago I was up against the greatest vested interest in the world - & so true has it turned out. That greatest vested interest is not financial but is professional & academic egos. Only an enlightened public can overcome this
@AllanRSavory
@FructoseNo
Allan, your YouTube "Running out of Time" is very enlightening as is your website. Myth that free range Live Stock is detrimental to environment is as mindless & proven wrong as belief that cholesterol causes Heart Disease. Both myths are driven by vested Interests.
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What ignorance If every human became vegan & we left every animal to die naturally of disease, accident, starvation or predation we would still need millions more of them to reverse biodiversity loss & desertification playing major role in climate change
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A reason is to address climate change. Meat is not the cause of biodiversity loss, deforestation, excess methane. Scientists finally acknowledge humans, not resources, are causing climate change so why do you keep blaming animals?
60% of the world’s biodiversity loss.
80% of Amazon deforestation.
51% of greenhouse gas emissions
There are zero good reasons to eat meat.
Zero.
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Don't know what is going on - this 2013 TED Talk is still being viewed by nearly 4,000 people a day. Thankfully because it is making sense to most people offering hope for...
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Interesting when this vocal journalist is to publish his own citations of academic authorities ,none of whom has ever studied what managing complexity holistically even means! Sloppy agenda driven journalism doing great damage to humanity.
As Allan Savory has resumed his campaign to persuade us that cattle ranching will save the world, I’ve decided to publish on my website an extract from Regenesis, in which I examine his claims and the science (or lack of) behind them.
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A ground visual four months after NASA view and in the driest and hottest month of the year.
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@IrishRainforest
I held same view as you & your fans till learning how wrong we were. Nature changed when a scavenging omnivore with language, organization spear & fire became a predator able to kill herds easier than one animal & killed off most large herbivores 50 to 100 000 yrs ago.
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Why I am luckiest man alive living and working from my bush camp home when I can look up and see this as I type on my computer. A guest saw fifty elephants and four lions yesterday, and twenty years ago we had no bushbuck here, now five at once to water!
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In the 1980s I spoke once in Yellowstone at a conference where I saw Wendell Berry whose writing I love. During question time Parks biologists asked me what they could do about the riparian damage elk were doing. I replied that there was nothing they could do, except bring in
@Rainmaker1973
This exactly what
@AllanRSavory
has been saying for years about predators relationship with grazing animals.
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Thanks for helping spread hope. This talk is now approaching 7 million views and has done more than fifty years of swimming upstream against academic ridicule.
How do you reverse
#desertification
&
#ClimateChange
?
@AllanRSavory
has an idea:
#animal
#grazing
. See his evidence.
@TEDTalks
@TEDx
@NASA
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Thanks for further confirmation of something we have known for decades but resisted by many as much publicized by
@GeorgeMonbiot
This study concerns the damage in the more humid regions that do not desertify no matter how bad the management. It is far worse over most of the
Cessation of grazing causes biodiversity loss and homogenization of soil food webs
#biodiversityloss
#grazing
#herbivores
#grasslands
#soil
#ecology
#conservation
cc
@PabloPastos
@herdyshepherd1
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I find it interesting that the comedians in America humorously provide the best and most objective political commentary. And that the cartoonist Ace Reid over forty years ago showed more ecological wisdom and scientific power of observation than all environmental and cattlemen's
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Thousands peer-reviewed papers explain sheep overgrazing causes such damage. Not one explaining why the best of management know how is just as damaging. Science confused with peer-review!! Yet
@GeorgeMonbiot
relies 100% on peer review!
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Doing my best as a small voice of science and sanity at COP26 but fear it will be lost in the cacophony of "expert"confusion
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Earlier I posted this best example I am aware of where human/wildlife habitat is being restored at low cost while sustaining people – the opposite of all the multi-billion dollar attempts to use technology and academic expertise to do so.
Anyone wanting
Most amazing reversal of biodiversity loss & desertification fueling climate change that I have ever known - and at no cost. All we ever need to do is to address the cause of any problem - it is as simple as that. This was achieved by greatly increasing all animal life - wildlife
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Another view on lab meat Insane when greatly increasing cattle with the holistic planned grazing process has been reversing biodiversity loss desertification for over sixty years at almost no cost but knowledge! Why policy has to be holistic to save us.
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With global biodiversity loss & desertification fueling climate change probably more than fossil fuels, stating that cows can reverse desertification is tragic in my view. It is like having a mass of starving people and timidly stating food can save people (as though there are
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For all of you who are seriously concerned with rising global problems including biodiversity loss and climate change as well as increasing discontent with governments, do listen to this interview please. It goes beyond farming as you will learn and the endless arguments
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US Administration plans to award a total of $3.5 billion to the development of carbon sucking vacuums.
Is this an example of unintended consequences of Nobel Prizes coming to haunt and destroy us after 122 years?
Alfred Nobel wanted to reward "those who,
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Please don't abuse vegans. They abuse me a lot but it does not help when we face such grave issues. They are ignorant of the damage they are accidentally doing Just like our institutions doing even more damage to all of us
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Always people cite examples of resting the environment in humid regions that are a small part of the world’s land where opposite happens in seasonally humid regions. Please try to learn more before doing too much damage unintentionally.
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@GeorgeMonbiot
There's much evidence from many situations where, deliberately or not, ag land was left unfarmed and nature regenerated - for instance Chernobyl, Fukushima and many projects like this one, tweeted yesterday:
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Tragic summary of IPCC report About GHGs no mention of biodiversity loss even in national parks & desertification - usual planting trees despite $ 30Billion failures like this & NOT ONE WORD about the cause of climate change so no hope of addressing it
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Award winning documentary soon to be public here is trailer with english subtitles .
I watched Spanish premiere on 22nd April with 500 people & will attend premiere in Portugal on 29th. I think it better than my TED Talk seen by 9 million with great impact
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Yet another study (unfortunately from Oxford) highlighting the dangers of poor scholarship, ecological illiteracy and in this case narrow poorly designed research concerning the problem of global desertification and climate change.
As I stated in the Oxford debate with
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Everyone squabbling about cattle & discussing carbon or methane, whether supporting
@GeorgeMonbiot
or myself, reminds me of my nanny guarding my baby son in a storm long ago
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Finally maybe the tide is turning - food for thought here - with hopefully some encouragement to rethink the myth of tree planting and carbon trading as even remotely likely solutions. Once more not a word ever about either the cause of global desertification fueling mega-fires
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Look who joined me for breakfast this morning. In all 5 bushbuck came with 30 baboons & a kudu nearby
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Also from Sanjayan -In a million years, I never thought cows could be so beneficial for the wildlife as an ecologist I was taught livestock, are the enemy of wildlife, but my journey from Africa to Arctic to Montana, is forcing me to rethink everything I know about conservation.
@jongodwin_
@AllanRSavory
@GeorgeMonbiot
Well-managed livestock heal soil and improve habitat.
#HolisticPlannedGrazing
“could be the absolute best thing conservation has ever discovered.” – M. Sanjayan, PhD, CEO of Conservation International, former lead scientist at The Nature Conservancy
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If you believe a vegan diet best for your health then engage in it, but as I said earlier, do not do so for ethical or environmental reasons because you will harm humanity
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Monbiot I did not know you could sink this low implying my association with white supremacy & atrocities. Public record clear on my long fight against racism, tribalism & violence leading to my exile Look forward to meeting in debate July 11th as agreed
@loriewinters
@IrishRainforest
@AllanRSavory
Good grief. Would you make such excuses for anyone else who had committed the same atrocities on behalf of white minority rule?
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Thanks & here is contrast this week between our river & nearest rivers. They herd cattle traditionally & we have many more used as a tool to restore wildlife/human habitat by herding using holistic planned grazing process. Far more of all life as we see
@GeorgeMonbiot
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@AllanRSavory
Shall we listen to a conservation biologist or a journalist?
#HolisticPlannedGrazing
“could be the absolute best thing conservation has ever discovered.” – M. Sanjayan, PhD, CEO of Conservation Int’l, former lead scientist at The Nature Conservancy
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Oh how I wish young people wanting a future & caring about wildlife would support me in this simple suggestion Thousands supporting that actively would lead to a better world faster than a century of bickering.
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Time for the public everywhere to insist agricultural policies be developed holistically if future generations are to have any real hope of decent lives...
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Sad you fall for this anti-cattle group “fighting for climate justice with truth & trees” as site states. Apart from S.African Apartheid government vicious attacks on me this is the worst I have seen. I must be doing something right to deserve such attacks over sixty years!
On the 'regenerative' and 'holistic' livestock farming industry, its ties with the Murdoch media empire, carbon credit scams and more
(an intro, followed by a first piece on Allan Savory )
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@GeorgeMonbiot
I understand & sympathize with your confusion just as the finest smoke or drum message senders were totally confused & disbelieving by first telegraph & then wireless. All you need to is read my textbook in 3rd edition & in use in several universities. Or you can remain ignorant
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Sad to see well-meaning Greta now an unapproachable celebrity regurgitating adult beliefs - not a dot connected between climate change and cause. Not a word about addressing the cause of climate change so not the slightest hope for future generations.
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Have a look at this - I have over 30 National Parks surrounding my home in Africa and they are amongst our worst examples of biodiversity loss and desertification fueling climate change. Some in the US (New Mexico) are worse. I am afraid the situation is far more serious than
@AllanRSavory
But if we eat less meat and dairy, we have to breed fewer animals - which can free up huuuuge amounts of land for nature.
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This tragedy the US department of agriculture knew was going to happen over forty years ago and the response of the then Reagan Administration was to ban further training, advised by Professors of range science mainly in TX, NM, AZ. I quote from the textbook Holistic Management
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Then why do you do it George by ridiculing & opposing 60 yrs of my work reversing desertification underlying poverty violence social breakdown & war across N Africa to India & up into China? Source of most environmental political refugees.
It takes a special kind of cruelty to see people who have lost everything, and are fleeing for their lives from war, torture and state murder, and think "Hmm, how can we make life even worse for them?"
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@GeorgeMonbiot
You would be wiser to hold your fire until you debate me & meanwhile try to find a single scientist in the world who can tell us in what respect the Holistic Management framework using all known science is scientifically deficient.
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Perhaps one of best interviews I have had - for anyone puzzled by our apparent stupidity, argument & blaming over climate change when no one is to blame - It is long so if impatient go to 40 -51 min
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Sad to see
@GeorgeMonbiot
still barking up the wrong tree! Perhaps this makes the distinction clearer between management and academic papers he relies on in defiance of basic commonsense. It really is time to end criticisms over fifty years old - and never valid.
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@cornishgrill
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@AllanRSavory
No, what changes my mind is scientific evidence published in peer-reviewed journals. How about you?
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With regenerative agriculture vital to prevent collapse of cities, economies & all businesses but already being greenwashed & becoming meaningless I hope this history of the term & definition will help serious people
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A nice short interview about one of the world's greatest problems If we do not reverse global biodiversity loss & desertification, which is easy and makes rather than costing money, cutting fossil fuel use will be meaningless. If I am wrong, then I
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@TamarHaspel
@GeorgeMonbiot
I too read it because I am determined to find flaws in the holistic planned grazing process if we can, having spent two years trying with over 2000 scientists. You find one paper that studied it & reported adversely & I PROMISE to tell the world.
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If you are capable of thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating p/r papers by people who have never even studied the Holistic Management framework please tell the world of any aspect that is flawed scientifically. I promise to support you fully.
@AllanRSavory
@waddledogie
@oliveoilguy
I just did. Or did you not read what I posted?
There's a reason why TED has attached a warning to your talk: it's wrong.
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In 1960s scientists said giant machines would reclaim vast regions “Imprinting reverses the desertification process by pressing V-shape imprints into the soil with steel angles on a heavy roller” 16th International Conference of the Society for Ecological Restoration.
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Someone who gets it clearly thankfully. One thing I would correct is that desertification (basically brown areas in NASA view) is not a threat to huge areas of the globe.
There it is already a reality causing massive violence, droughts, floods, mega-fires, political upheaval,
No one better understands the scale of the desertification threat to huge ares of the globe but, crucially, how to stop and reverse it than
@AllanRSavory
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Thanks Chris for visiting and helping spread management based on commonsense, logic and good science actually addressing the root cause of biodiversity loss desertification and climate change.
A privilege to spend time with
@AllanRSavory
to understand holistic management
@SavoryInstitute
#Zimbabwe
. I admire his leadership creating a discussion on how Agriculture can be part of the solution to climate change
@NuffieldFarming
@NuffieldInt
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@howemill
In defense of
@GeorgeMonbiot
no need for a degree to be intelligent. Those making civilization possible were illiterate. Best I worked under had no degrees but were widely published. Some of most intelligent people I ever met were illiterate & some of least intelligent had PdDs.
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Thanks for reminding me of this talk I gave at Harvard - even more pertinent today as the global situation keeps getting worse as it is guaranteed to do unless we address desertification over regions of the US and world far larger than the UK, Europe and Amazon. This
Allan Savory’s Vision for Reversing Desertification: A Talk at Harvard Law School
@AllanRSavory
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Billions $$ spent on failed efforts to reverse desertification in the US in the 70’s because Professors of Range Science said they would - proof by authority not science - same universities & same P by A opposing Holistic Management - once again not science.
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We have known for over 50 years if we replace beliefs with science, we can make the available rainfall more effective by increasing cattle using the holistic planned grazing process, thus growing more grass, etc. Why this has not spread is explained here
Historically IMHO we assumed that cattle & grass compete: more cattle means less grass. But
@AllanRSavory
has shown in Africa that grass and cattle in nature cooperate: more cattle makes more grass in a range of settings. This can feed the world & solve global warming.
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I would simply use it to have one country do what I suggested two years ago. Politically risk free easy to do and virtually guaranteed to start a domino effect around the world because no world leader knows, or is being advised, what to do about climate change which is a
If I gave you $1 billion and asked you to do something to make the world a better place, what would you do?
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Tragically this perception is real with all governments from dictatorship to multi-party democracies - all lead to increasing dissatisfaction due to unintended consequence of policies designed to finance themselves and hold onto power rather than govern well. And so it is will
@WallStreetSilv
Is there any example, where government works for the people and not for ITSELF?
Government IS the problem.
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When it is not possible to break the global biodiversity loss desertification climate change feedback loop at the GHG level but only at the biodiversity loss level using livestock as no technology imaginable can do so, this booklet is timely
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The greatest danger today is not climate change, but institutional stupidity...
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Science is knowledge. Research gaining knowledge generally needs to be reductionist but management using all science (knowledge) has to be holistic - or civilization will not survive as biodiversity loss, chaos & violence increase.
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People like this mean well but do so much damage. The vast area across N. Africa into China can only support people from grass/livestock on about 95% of the land & ONLY animals can reverse desertification addressing climate change.
Science vs beliefs.
Just because crop yields from degraded land is low, doesn't make grazing cattle there a more efficient return of cal/protein.
And just because cattle eat inedibles like hay doesn't make growing it a good use of land. See a very typical scene below with forest in the background:
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