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This is something we've worked towards for two years – even if you aren't in agreement with some of the points that we've made, please take the time to consider this letter and have conversations about it because that means our letter is already fulfilling one of its purposes!
LCOC is proud to release its first open letter addressed to the University of London's Classics departments. To read the full letter and sign it, please click here:
You don't have to be a POC or UOL-affiliated to sign and show your support!
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so tired of people asking poc why they study another culture instead of the history of the country they’re ethnically from like idk tarquin why do you study the Iliad go read beowulf???
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I got asked to read this very lovely inscription!!! Sumerian is so calming and good for the soul, idk that was the first exam in my life I actually enjoyed bc I had 2 people trapped in a room with me who HAD to listen to me talk about Sumerian grammar
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thinking about my first-year class on Babylon where the professor saw two students snickering about fish omens and she stopped and said there was no point in taking this class if you didn't choose to suspend your own beliefs and believe the way the Mesopotamians believed.
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you know how people say French is the most romantic language (doesn’t matter if u agree or not), what do u think Bronze Age ppl said the most romantic language was???? What was the French of the Bronze Age???
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first writing session down. am now a kindergarten level DUB.SAR and not so very proud of my handwriting.
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Uncontracted dialects of Ancient Greek AND Mycenaean should be taught before even attempting to foray into Attic Greek if you actually want to understand the language instead of soullessly memorizing a bunch of things that mean nothing to you
What language opinion gets you this reaction?
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I sometimes wonder if perhaps the Sea People were started by exiled onagers. It’s not completely out of the question.
At some point in antiquity, a few ships of very competent equids (with almost no soldiers) landed on the coast of the Levant. Where did they come from?
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A stamp seal from around 3200-2900 BCE in the shape of a calf, but the seal portion has little cats (:
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i’m so tired of people asking me if i speak indian!!!! i’ve been so nice about it but soon i will not be!!!! ‘indian’ is not a language!!!!
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compound verbs in sumerian are just so sweet like to decorate is hand+touch???? to soothe is heart+cool??? are u kidding me that's so cute and amazing and wow
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this is so cute, let's all write personified inscriptions on teacups again
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Almost ran after a woman in the tube bc she had cuneiform tattooed onto her leg and I wanted to ask if I could read it but I didn’t let the intrusive thought win bc that would’ve been creepy 🤩
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poc have to forfeit their entire culture and belief system to be able to fit into academia. no wonder we all leave.
Universities want to hire faculty of color. but not our politics. They want to hire us, but not consider the ways we have commitments and responsibilities beyond ourselves and then they wonder why they can’t retain us.
#AcademicTwitter
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does anyone remember that tweet where someone explained why wine-dark sea doesn't mean the sea was red bc i forgot the explanation and it's driving me INSANE and google keeps saying algae
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what was even the point of inventing akkadian if they were gonna use sumerograms for 90% of the text anyway??????
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@nashwakay
@induswaliarch
It's actually scary how much power universities have already stripped from student unions – biggest example I can think of is the dissolution of the UoL SU (ULU)
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@GiovanniFanfoni
@sallymub
@AimeeMaroux
In this case, Saddam Hussein did try to rebuild Babylon, causing massive architectural damage to excavations and old city architecture! The Babylon Renaissance is both tragic and fascinating as a means of displays of power.
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I hate!!! Being in Greek classes with only men bc I will ask a question and they'll start explaining things that I already know – eg. today I asked when the variant ksummakhos for summakhos was used and this one guy was like 'oh it means ally 😌...' I KNOW!
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@matt_boot_
You know what… Maybe. Definitely wasn’t anything Greek-y bc imagine you’re in Mycenae and someone invites you back to theirs for a glass of WÓINOS.
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i think it's so funny that the sumerogram for horse is literally 'land-donkey'
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When people ask how many languages do you speak, how does everyone count? Do you include ancient languages? Ones that you’re currently learning? What level of language “counts” as a language you know?
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tomorrow I’m teaching my dad how to write using cuneiform on plasticine from flying tiger and I’m so delighted that I can’t sleep
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so convinced that anyone who fell for ea-nasir’s antics would not survive one second in an Indian bazaar… the shenanigans that go on there…
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drunk texted my parents yesterday after rewatching a lecture about Sîn-iddinam of Larsa
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Does anyone have any interesting papers on the death of gods in Mesopotamian literature? It's becoming a bit of a hyperfixation now
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Dominique Charpin came and gave a lecture today on Ur and he showed us this tablet where the scribe-in-training had drawn the lines to divide columns so badly that you could tell the teacher was like “no throw the whole thing away and do it again” & it was so funny 😭
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It’s odd to think that since I moved away from India, I’ve actively been denied the right of free speech. The countries I moved to did not give me that constitutional right. When I moved to the UK, I naively thought that I had this right but my visa can be stripped at any moment.
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This might not be a fun take but I really hate it when people adapt plays that deal with any sort of inequality into a piece where they just completely change the inequality the original text was dealing it and replace it with whatever they want to deal with
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@Kwakyu
@realDonaldTrump
@KattyKayBBC
they got the oil and Jared in their pocket 🤧🤔😷😤🤠 and clearly oil is more important than human rights
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finally started reading german papers on ANE stuff and it's insane how much research just does not get acknowledged in the english sphere... this is all so very useful, i can't believe i ever wrote anything without reading german papers
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I can’t believe I started Sumerian in September because it’s already so much better than my Akkadian (not that I don’t enjoy Akkadian!! Reading the enūma eliš was my favourite part of this academic year) <3
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so I actually sat down and did my sumerian and something about this scribe’s handwriting is driving me up a wall because the na/ki signs look THE SAME to the point where even the scribe has made an error and written uru16-ki instead of -na 😭 I miss neo-babylonian
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Took me a while to understand how unsuited cuneiform is to Akkadian but I get it now… it feels like it’s been stuffed into boxes that don’t quite fit it whereas Sumerian gets folded into the same boxes
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Today in Sumerian:
Coursemate: Gudea seems like marriage material
Me: idk he made an awful lot of statues of himself
Professor: yeah and he was BALD
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– Plato, ca. 380 BCE
so many philosophers straight up just don’t do real philosophy
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The point of a TW is so that students can familiarize themselves with future content that is potentially upsetting and prepare for it – it isn't to stop them from reading the Classics. Loved being involved in this project over the summer for UCL.
UK Universities Place “Trigger Warnings” on Greek Tragedies and Literature
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once again begging people to remember that lcoc is run by five really sleep-deprived students with jobs/full-time degrees and that we do not have the same resources as an institution
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@CNN
This is crazy... this woman was forced into trafficking and had to do many things that she would have never done had this man left her alone and she would have led a normal life. By no means is murder a solution but this woman has had to live through the unspeakable - let her go
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@annalieseholden
You could definitely do it yourself too if need be!! You’d need a bit of background in PIE comparative grammar + sign list + Duhoux’s Mycenean Anthology (: happy to send some stuff over
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Thank you so much for giving me a platform to discuss my experience in Classics! As a junior academic, I know I have a lot to learn and would love to hear your thoughts.
NEW ON OUR BLOG: Mai Sanadhya, Media & Communications Officer of
@London_CoC
, offers a South Asian perspective on studying the classical world, and describes the importance of having spaces that work towards decolonising our disciplines:
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When I get back to UCL I’m going to be so confused on how to pronounce Akkadian and Sumerian bc we pronounce everything with a very strong French accent at unige, it’s gonna be hilarious
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This and then you forget what paper you’re citing 🥲
The urge to read 100 research papers before writing a single word will eat my academic career one day.
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Does anyone know if there is a list out there of Ancient Greek herbs and their given names in any dialect of Ancient Greek? I'm using the Gg series of Linear B tablets but would like a historically later reference if possible!
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@kubacki__
Mandarin Chinese (the grammar is so very easy and there are so many self-teaching resources)
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@matt_boot_
It takes a few tablets to get used to the writing system but that plus some knowledge of PIE linguistics means you can read it almost instantly in my (limited) experience
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I have one and a half weeks left of classes then I have to go back to UCL 🥲 back to being in a Greek and Latin dept after getting used to the Mesopotamian studies dept here
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TR (kind of): "Did you see my little stillborn children who never lived?” “I saw them.” “How are they?" / "They play at a table of gold and silver made heavy with honey and ghee."
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So I've put it off but I'm going to have to learn German to read Altbabylonische Grammatik... goodbye free time
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my biggest red flag is that i gave a bukowski book five stars on goodreads when i was 16
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