And I as a WOMAN know how other women ruin other people’s lives especially men. And as women we need to stop believing every woman on the planet that puts out an allegation. Especially when it’s been confirmed to be a sasaeng and a fake situation.
We’ve been called cubs even in the Stray Kids days, we were the only individual member fandom back then if I’m not mistaken. Besides, we were called cubs because stays considered him as of a “Mama Bear” hence the Cub name and we carried that on even after his departure.
How are you gonna call them “ugly people who experience no love” when they are defending a person who literally was slandered by someone who literally made this rumor for attention and to ruin someone’s life… talk about experiencing no love. I guess it takes one to know one.
If antis waited the whole situation out, not pick a side immediately, or expressed hate, the accusation wouldn’t of hurt the brand. It’s the antis who stretched this situation to more than what it should have and THATS what hurts the brand. Not Lucas.
They either bring up the “following the topic” but how do you know if he still supports them. You still don’t know what happened behind the scenes. Y’all forget Chan said to not send hate to him so how do y’all say they “hate him”
Other than that he hasn’t said or done ANYTHING “obsessive” toward that group. The only ones obsessed are y’all. So weird that y’all keep up with his every move but never decided to look into his entire situation carefully like an intelligent civilized human. Y’all can’t be srs.
Not to be that person but where are all the people going
“she must have done something bad because she left so sudden, it’s unlikely to do this, she did this to sabotage the group blah blah blah” comments?
I mean it’s only fair right?? Considering using
#their
“logic”
The 22’s in qrts ??? Y’all know what you need to apologize for. How are you still going to be against a member for something he did not do when little by little the other members are telling you that he did nothing wrong. At this point just unstan the group losers.
I hate to compare serious topics but I just can’t stop reminding myself of how ridiculous the J0hnny D3pp situation and how ridiculous the Wj situation was are kinda alike
The thing is a lot of ot6/ot22s are like “okay okay whatever he’s innocent but have you noticed how long he has been out, basically almost a year so he clearly did something wrong” like they don’t understand the behind the scenes process for stuff like this. It’s so annoying
Saw this comment on my Post, and Literally she said truth. Like Fttm0 herself has confessed, that she did it because she hates Lucas so much. Yet ot22/Ot6 choose believe the whole scandal, which is LIE!
not a lot of us like jype but one thing we do know that’s great ab that company is that they are better at pr. Jype is known to let the public know if an idol did something wrong. Which was not the case with wj especially when they ended the statement to continue to support him
@blueberrywoojin
jyp letting wj decide to go off on his own in the middle of a comeback? it's stupid to think so, the company broke his contract because he did something wrong and his solo debut was promoted with that
I don’t think the qrts get it…. Nothing was wrong with his response besides, it was not treated as a joke. You are completely missing the point. The way that the person who made the accusation MADE SA INTO A JOKE just bc they disliked him. Why is nobody talking about that.
This is the thing that pisses me off: on the subject of whether you are “w7vy” or “w6vy”, I don’t care. It makes me mad when ot6zens are like “yeah WayV is better as 6” but they don’t even follow or show that they like WayV in the first place
Hi everyone, I had bought a VVIP ticket to
#KIMWOOJIN
‘s Dallas show months ago but unfortunately I will not be able to go to the show. I don’t want this ticket to go to waste so is there anybody who wants to buy this ticket off from me?? Pls dm or share !!!
I remember reading comments how “wj murd3r3d the members” and I’m like… then who is the group we’ve been seeing the whole time??
I wish I was joking 😭😭😪
It’s not that he didn’t bring anything to the group, it’s more that the group didn’t give anything to him or a chance. If he was used correctly or at all, he would have brought a lot to the group.
Stuff antis (of anybody but mostly about woojin here) do that I don’t get:
If antis don’t care why do they have to comment that they don’t… like if you don’t shut up and use that time and energy to tweet something about someone they do like and not waste their time on this +
no longer believing kpop stans when they say an idol is innocent !! i swear every idol who has been accused of something (garam, woojin, AOA jimin, etc.) are suddenly innocent but wheres the proof?? its starting to feel like yall are saying they’re innocent to hide what they did
I don’t think y’all understand. Idk how long y’all have been stays but every time someone complains and nags about skz re-recording their music forget that he had like 2 second lines. Y’all act like it was a hassle, trust me it wasn’t hard to redo music he was barely a part of.
this & the way that the company & the rest of the kids erased him tells me there was more to his termination of contract than what they told us. no group would re-record theirs songs just bc one member left.
I think we need about 1 or 2 comebacks from woojin before he can make a tour bc with the music he has already he only has 5 songs (not including the intro). Unless he sings his osts, and covers then maybe but I think we should wait till he releases more of his own music.
Literal video proof and people still don’t believe that the most logical answer is that he was very unhappy in the company??? I thought they used videos as proof??
I’ve seen two different but same people? People who understand
#Lucas
’s situation but hates
#Woojin
and people who understand Woojin’s situation but hates Lucas.
🚨Newsflash🚨 They are the same situation, what’s stopping you from understanding both???
No bc it’s hilarious when wantis like to boast how $kz skyrocketed after he left,,, orrr you could have like done that when he was there too…. Plus they were already very popular at the time too what do you mean 😭😭
Wantis wanna say that Woojin made SA into a joke and should be punished… while these are the girls who actually mocked SA but no outrage on them??? It really pisses me off.
These are the people y'all should be causing hell for. They are the ones that took sa and mocked it, made it into a joke & made it harder for all victims. Thais, Rafaella, and Millena are the real dipshits that gave no fucks about sa victims.
Who is gonna tell the stays that Chan just meant for people who want to talk about SKZ in news articles to use ot8 photos… that this was not an attack on woojin???
I love whenever something is KWJ related in this page people are first like “Omg who is it 🥹🫶” and then they find out and they lose it like… still doesn’t negate the fact that woojin did all of this. Mfs let fake allegations ruin them lmfao
when that kpop soloist replied to a fan & said "it is a stereotype made by someone, to think thin is beauty. to sacrifice yourself, starving and eating, for this stereotype, is not making yourself more beautiful, but hurting yourself in the end. it won't be good for your health."
I just can’t stop thinking about how one day woojin will make concerts and world tours but I wish to do the thing where cubs come together and meet each other and enjoy the show but from my moots here, we are all apart
:((
Woojin antis will do ANYTHING to diminish woojin’s achievements like he has done a LOT more than many idols have in a span of 1 year (even in a few months) and not in a big well established company. Literally in a new company that even people thought were fake.
You know this community needs to understand that just because you keep saying these things that are just blatantly untrue, doesn’t mean they will become true.
@catjungkoo
there r many reasons as to why ppl hate him not only the allegations ; the way he treated the members and all that , and how he just left the group he was just rly shitty and u could tell the members just didnt end up in good terms w him , theres probably stuff that happened bts
It truly pains me that someone has to “come out” to say that they Stan this guy. That you need courage to say this and you have moots, friends, and a reputation on the line.
I am very happy to see new and more cubs so but it’s sad that it must be this way :((
i have an announcement to make that might result in me losing everything but idc.
i am a cub, which means i stan kim woojin. i have been stanning him for a long time but i was scared of being judged. well not anymore.
if you feel uncomfortable pls just softblock me. thank you.
Stop saying Lucas next,
Y’all forget that YangYang is the biggest ot6 anti, Ten considers WayV as 7 and Kun got pissed off when a weizennie censored Lucas’s face in a video.
Trust me, I feel like he’s going nowhere
It’s crazy how it’s applauded for the other guy who did absolutely nothing but once the tables have been turned it’s a “wow you thought you did something” moment when doing the exact same action. (which is the same thing, you wasted your money if you tear *his* pcs but okay)
@wj_cb_
I mean once you’ve bought them and put the money in skz’s pocket, they’re yours to do what you like with but thanks for giving skz money ig 🤷♀️
The main vocalist rarely had lines. Stop making this to prove a point. When in the end you sound dumb. If you were stays before Levanter then you would know this. Why are you making it a big fuss when in the end he hardly was given anything to work with from that lame company?
What bothers me as a ktuber is that a lot of ktube commentary creators put so much effort to researching and making a video to share reasonable information just for it to be ignored by antis that would rather look at half assed, fabricated, hate based posts. It’s really not fair.
@wonyvocals
for y'all saying he's innocent, yes he did not sexually assault that girl. but what he DID do was use that rumour for profit and managed to twisted it to help promote his music. THAT is why I don't support him.
Can we talk about how skz had scandal after scandal after he left? I think they had their own mess to deal with, ppl need to stop acting like they magically had nothing wrong when he left
@wooswater2
Yeah it took them some time to recover from the mess he created and tarnished thr image in public .. but dont worry 2020 happened n now thy r grabbing deals , work offers left and right with a stable fandom .. they doing insanely well .. 😊 so they dont lack ANYTHING ..
Like how are you gonna tell me call if and cubs (Aka baby bears) and Baby girls was muchhh better, so much better that it was dragged and they had to change the name because it was creepy asf.
The way that armys are complaining now after telling every other fandom to “deal with it” when it comes to their military service. it’s not about being pro military or not. If that’s the case then bother the boys about it since they actually wanna do this service.
Isn’t that what y’all do with cubs??? Group them into one person and describe them negatively? This fandom needs to stop victimizing themselves when they do it with everyone else. Hypocrites.
It’s also ironic how someone can take a super old video of him, but then compare it to skz recents… if you are gonna edit this comparison, you would compare using new with new and old with old. Come on y’all, do better. In My Space is already no comparison to all of skz combined
The way stans have been preaching that they want their companies to protect their idols for serious situations like this but now that a company is actually doing what a company is supposed to they are hating on it +
I don’t understand what other number do you expect him to say, he’s not gonna say 9 because it’s not true. Even saying nine will not prove anything, it’ll just show that he cannot count.
I swear these K-pop stans who literally ignore common sense and proof and anything that tells them that they are wrong, I’m starting to believe they are actually like 12. These people cannot be real 😭💀💀
Just because KWJ announced his comeback on stays‘ birthday doesn’t mean he’s trying to gain attention. It’s been two fucki years since a comeback, let cubs enjoy this day in peace. It’s the beginning of august, a reasonable time to announce a cb. Everything isn’t about us.
I'd rather be "braindead" than to believe a false rumor of a serious topic, justify fake SA victims, victimize a group of people who weren't bu||!ed, and assume people are getting hurt by poorly edited and fabricated compilations of 4 second videos.
Newsflash guys, if you hate on any person based on their race or ethnic background AND/OR comparing someone to an animal in a bad way also based on their ethnic background. YOU ARE RACIST. Don’t be calling people racist if you are doing the same thing.
people accusing jay of being racist and hating him even though it all proven wrong was disgusting, but now they calling him an animal and hating on him bcuz he’s white??! lmao he’s not racist you guys are.
#jaychang
If you are wondering what my position is, after long thinking and studying both sides of the issue, i believe Woojin is innocent. No, I dont believe, I KNOW, considering ALL the info given to us. +
“He obv hurt the kids” bro where? You mean the fabricated shit you see online? If you were stay, you’d watch the whole thing and you can’t possibly that dense to realize that they weren’t hurt bffr
Them: “where are your morals”
Also them: thought it was okay to do all of these things
This was the reason I decided to leave the stay fandom and avoid skz at all costs. I hated being surrounded in this environment.
Wantis are actually stupid idk what else to tell you. They way that they justify people making fake rumors about SA, like do they not see the problem here?? Like imagine being a victim of SA and seeing someone using your trauma as a joke to take someone down. You are evil.
It’s crazy bc I think he and his company acted as appropriately as possible considering the timing and circumstances but let’s say he “did it seriously” what would that even look like? HOW exactly did you want him to act on a situation like this?
How are the stays here gonna say “the difference here is that this accusation is baseless” …….. fellas, Woojin’s whole accusation WAS baseless bffr 😭 y’all know how stupid you sound??
Stop bringing skz into something they are not a part of. Skz are doing their own thing and woojin is doing his own thing. This stupid bullying scandal was debunked for a while. Because the staff who exposed woojin about bullying was fake as well. +
And here we go again “I don’t care and I know I was wrong but let’s point the finger back at woojin’s nonexistent bullying behavior that even a baby and monkey can comprehend that it was not true” Like seriously, let it go. +
Wrong Thing number 1. The girls who actually used SA as an aesthetic not getting the consequences they deserve and Wrong Thing number 2, the fact that you still believe wj is the problem. I have spotted the two wrong things you’re right.
Not to be rude (no srsly bc I know ppl will turn my words) I saw the rumor of skz appearance in a Deadpool movie but like….. what would they do? …… what could they add? I would think it’s better to have them make an ost FOR the movie you know?
Obviously it’s because it’s woojin and for the person they dislike is actually getting the rights a treatment they deserve in a company, they aren’t gonna like it but it is what it is. Are you mad that this is the idol/company that is actually doing their job? +
So woojin is live and he was asking for some suggestions of covers to sing for the tour. And I was almost going to ask him to cover Grow Up but I know that would not happen. I don’t think he can besides, I know wantis would hate on him for that :(
Can they also maybe give them yet ANOTHER LECTURE about how you should respect people at all times (for the nth time). They’ll probably ignore it AGAIN but keep them busy from us please!
And this rumor was the sole reason why we even thought about the bullying. Just shut up and be smarter about these situations. Because how the antis are acting clearly don’t know what to do in situations like these. This shit is serious not a game +
And finally, leave him alone??? The reason why you antis keep getting content about him is because you keep interacting with his stuff, so just stop if you don’t wanna see it. I can’t be the only one with a brain here?
Can y’all believe it’s been almost 3 years, three full journeys around the sun, and people still believe that woojin accusation from 2020 and hadn’t bothered to research the facts….
They are right tho, whatever Chan had complained about a person or anything at all it gets hellaaaa twisted when he clearly doesn’t have the intent that fans are making it to be. He is very careful with his words nowadays but fans still seem to make it into shit that it’s not
I also would want ch4n to act on this on his own without us or anybody else giving him the idea let alone force him to. I think it would mean a lot more if he played his music without anyone telling him to do so plus making it the biggest slap to the face for st4ys
To cubs in vlive: i know you want ch4n to listen to woo's songs, i do too. But we can pretty much only dream on that. We can't force woo's songs onto ch4n to give a listen. I know y'all mean well, but please do not spam things like "still dream kim woojin" in his vlive chat. +
PLEASE there are so many groups that have accusations of some sort and then has been deemed false and it’s back to normal and it doesn’t hurt the group. Coulda been like that, but antis gon do what antis gon do best and fuck the allegation process up and make things harder.
Like let’s be honest, how often do we see that other desired companies make updates let alone DO SOMETHING about a topic such as this… personally I haven’t seen one. That’s why we as fans had been virtually protesting about it. +
Ppl say Lily has no media training I think she has media training because she is very aware of avoiding saying anything offensive she just chooses to talk about things people aren’t used to kpop artists talking about.
This is why I hate the over consumption of K-pop cb bc every cb is about 3-5 months and it’s considered normal, but when they take longer or what I like to call a normal amount of time for good quality, it gets shat on.
people unstanning woojin or blaming the company because he hasn’t put out an album in almost two years despite going on a global tour, starring in a movie, doing osts for highly successful dramas and posting monthly content ?? idk what to tell you