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So it took about 2 months to put together, but here's a look at the history of Cyberpunk anime!
35 minutes worth
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I'm seeing many people say Redline bankrupted Madhouse. No REDLINE didn’t BANKRUPT any studio, I’m so tired of BS around this movie. 🧵
So Redline just casually had
-insanely consistent 2d mechanical animation
-a ridiculous amount of background animation
-an unhinged amount of effects animation
-unnecessarily good character acting animation (w/ extremely complex designs)
throughout the movie.
bruh.
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Did you know Studio Ghibli animated a whole episode of an American Cartoon and not just any cartoon it was The Batman/Superman crossover special.
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The reports at the time said the reason for the studio's awful quarter was the collapse of a stagnant market in Japan.
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Not to mention, Telecom did some the best episodes and animation cuts on Batman The Animated Series, they had a good reputation and were commissioned for a chunk of the second season of Superman The Animated Series. (10 episodes)
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Madhouse released so many things during that period you can tell the studio was bursting at the seams.
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TFW you know your contribution to the INTERNET is saving Plastic Love
(cosplay by Lisa Lee Mei Xin)
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Madhouse did not make movies at high level costs like Ghibli, a movie like Redline was made by a relatively smaller group of inhouse salary animators in the background.
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The director was not fired or blacklisted he left Madhouse after being invited by Sayo Yamamoto to do animation direction on her Lupin the Third series
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They animated for the actual movie for 3 years and it was produced for 7 years for example.
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So "How Do You Live" comes out this week in Japan, with media blackout not much is known about movie. So let's talk about what is.🧵
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This all happened because of Telecom Animation, Not only have they worked on countless American animations, but Miyazaki once worked there.
Like on this movie. (Key Animation by Kazuhide Tomonaga)
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After that Koike made three Lupin Movies at Telecom & is likely working on another now to follow from the last cliff hanger.
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The idea that one movie did this is silly.
No matter how good you think it looks.
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Including the most expensive movie on
record for madhouse penguin for a few billion yen (referenced in this book)
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And while we’re at it with misinfo,
There’s actually CGI in the movie you can literally see it in the behind the scenes.
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Anyway I made a video on the subject several years ago all the sources are in the pinned comment too
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On Japanese wikipedia members mention how Index inc, Madhouse's parent company was affected poorly when the incubating bank of Japan went bankrupt in the summer of 2010. Possibly leading to two quarter in the red for Madhouse.
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Quinn has the classic Ghibli hair raise (not the only one either) and we get a rubbery Joker throughout the episode.
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Was Bleach cancelled because of poor viewership?
Well the director does not give that impression, sayomg the show ended and they want it to come back as soon as the final arc is complete.
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So it's finally done the Hideaki Anno Problem video is out after like 11 months hope everyone enjoyed link will be in the comments
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So yesterday I talked about how Ghibli worked on the Superman/Batman crossover, but it doesn’t stop there they also helped Telecom on another DCAU episode.
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This is the most "Ghibli" sequence in the episode reminding me a bit of Castle in the Sky in execution
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Oh yeah also Redline is considered more so a cult hit these days a couple years ago one of the creators did an interview where he talked about it and said how foreign producers were approaching him about a sequel
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Still there's some fun cuts all over the episode a lot of them have little flourishes of body language like Bruce's "eat shit" eyebrow raise and wink.
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They were still able to fit in some pretty good little cuts, like this dance is so over the top
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When Nippon TV secured Madhouse in 2011, they related the reason to the 2008 financial crisis & struggling to deal with a changing market.
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An anime movie is not just its box office, tv rights, physical media, merch etc all also play a role in how successful the movie is.
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Mamoru Oshii has never been Christian, this misconception comes from an out of context quote in a 1996 Animerica Interview. 🧵
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Last year I saw this idea going around again in a video and had to literally hand type in the quote to see where it was from and it's FUCKING TVTROPES 💀
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In Neon Genesis Evangelion: Ayanami Raising Project you can unlock a special Dejiko outfit for Rei
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However, at that time, Telecom was working on Princess Mononoke, making sure that the film actually hit deadline. They did so much work on it Ghibli had to bribe Telecom to keep them on the project, offering to help with their workload.(Key Animation by Atsuko Tanaka, Telecom)
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I mentioned a while go the old myth that Disney inspired Big eyes in Anime, where it was closer that Tezuka was inspired by the Big eyes in Disney, HOWEVER that's not even completely true as stated here by TV Producer Fred Ladd, when he asked Tezuka he said it was all Betty Boop
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Sonic CDs opening is legendary & while it is credited to Toei Animation they themselves did not animate it, it was Studio JUNIO.🧵
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Like when I made my video I had scrub the wikipedia page of random bullshit people would add, I'm guessing they'd look at the number Madhouse was in the red that quarter and just go "UMMM I guess that's how much the Redline movie cost" 😂
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Tomino has always stressed that female fans made Gundam before Gunpla was ever on the table.
But. But 4chan, the obvious target audience, doesn't like G Witch, how could this beeeeeeee????
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Now I'll present the most Dini/Timm moment where they make both of their OC Sidekicks wrestle, if you know you know.
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Harley and Joker are also very affectionate with each other this episode, rare.
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"Why does Ghibli food look so good!!"🤩
Okay, but Has anyone actually tried to answer this question legitimately? 🧵
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They're credited under Tokyo Movie Shinsha Co., Ltd the company that Telecom works under, but if you look through the supervisor, key animators and inbetweeners names you'll see they all worked on Princess Mononoke.
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Oh I just removed another one people keep putting the Redline (2007) boxoffice gross as the anime Redline's (2009) gross
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Although the show doesn't magically transform into a Ghibli series, this is still an American pipeline, It's a Paul Dini story and Telecom's Kazuhide Tomonaga boarded it (among others).
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Bruce's face during his workout also reminds me of one of the moments in the behind the scenes Mononoke doc, on not using predictable faces when people are exerting themselves, he's looks a little goofy here but more impactful than teeth grinding.
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There was a meeting about this in May 97 after Mononokes animation was complete, they'd be working on "episode" 40, which they seem to say will be the last episode? Well it turns out they were working on production number 40. Or Part 2 of "World's Finest".
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Noticeably you can tell its not always on model, this isn't as bad as their Evangelion episode. Likely because of the checks and retake system, but if you look closely it's not as tight as Telecoms other episodes. It's most obvious with Batman but not exactly in a bad way.
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Bonus Harley, wanna learn more about Ghibli History?
subscribe to my YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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What is it to be a Ghibli Staffer?
well it isn't like being a freelancer i'll tell you that 🧵
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There's a part in the Ghibli Production Diary where the production staff look through the storyboards and they go cold, realizing the difficulty of hitting deadline when there's two giant explosions scenes and several action sequences all in 20 mins
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My Hideaki Anno video is done and on Patreon now, public version coming soon!
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I've been talking to Alan Levenson, he's the guy that took the iconic shot of Mariya Takeuchi. It was 1980 in Hollywood, they were filming outside without a permit, the company didn't have the money to pay the actual photographer Levenson worked for, so he did it. [1]
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Ghibli were one week late on the deadline haha
but that's not the only episode they helped with."Growning pains" from the new adventures of batman and robin, also has an entire cast of Ghibli animators and is maybe more impressive overall, but that's a story for another day.
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Some time ago I read that Isao Takahata was eager to watch Evangelion during the rebroadcast in 97. This is something I could never have imagined, he actually did it too.
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Had the pleasure of interviewing David Encinas,
Who previously worked at Ghibli in the late 90s, after graduating from Gobelins prestigious animation school. He also was an Assistant Animator on World's Finest.
Did you know Studio Ghibli animated a whole episode of an American Cartoon and not just any cartoon it was The Batman/Superman crossover special.
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Woke up this morning to see a company that doesn't represent mariya takeuchi King Record has video claimed/taken down one of my videos on her. Which is 90% just my face how is
@TeamYouTube
letting get away with this while also letting them not specifying what they're claiming.
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I'm running a gofundme to translate these interviews, to once and for all kill the misinformation around Kare Kano.
What happened to Kare Kano during its production? Many of the revelations on this topic were based on the limited edition Bluray booklet, we had to take Japanese Wiki's word on what it said, not anymore here's every interview from that booklet in high DPI.
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What happened to Kare Kano during its production? Many of the revelations on this topic were based on the limited edition Bluray booklet, we had to take Japanese Wiki's word on what it said, not anymore here's every interview from that booklet in high DPI.
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Did you know Ghibli animated on an episode of an American Cartoon and not just any cartoon, it was the Batman/Superman Crossover World's Finest!
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It started production in May 2017 and it is NOT based on the book of the same name. It only takes the title and is a fantasy film as it expected from Miyazaki.
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"It's pronounced "gibli" not "jibli"."
So this is one I've seen for years, a lot of pendant comments, but when It comes to how to pronounce Studio "Ghibli" it's more complicated than some would lead on. 🧵
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Another Redline clip of breaking the misinfo to end it with,
a couple notes here, when he says four years working straight, I'm pretty sure that includes making the pilot. Since the movie wasn't greenlit until 06 & it was finished in the summer of 09.
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So there was a fair few people trying to contest Ghibli animated on Batman here, without looking into it so let me go through the Ghibli Production Diary timeline.🧵
Did you know Studio Ghibli animated a whole episode of an American Cartoon and not just any cartoon it was The Batman/Superman crossover special.
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A lot of banger interview lines in the Kare Kano Booklet for sure
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-DRAMA ALERT-
So I saw this Mothers Basement Video on Sonic, that was linked in a discord, I gotta say not fan of it. It happens to fall into 3 or 4 areas I've spent way too much time looking into to, so let's talk about it ...
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Kare Kano is a show surrounded by questions and misinfo, one I'd like to talk about today is the ending and why it may be like that.
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Seven years ago Miyazaki handed the proposal along with 20mins of storyboards to the Producer.
To check if it was any good.
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@SandTycoon
OPM is a lightning in a bottle moment, the director had just came off Space Dandy and basically took most of that talent who enjoyed working with him from Bones back with him to madhouse to then make that project.
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SO this is not the reason at all, Yoake Mae yori Ruriiro na came out in 2006 and anime food cuts can be traced all the way back to the 70s.
see my thread
"Why does anime food look so good?" actually has an answer??
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Another factor on the ending is how involved kubo was with filler arcs, at that time he was very busy not to mention the show had no wiggle room to continue,
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GOOD NEWS, WITH THE HELP OF PLASTIC LOVER THE ORIGINAL UPLOAD IS BACK UP
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So a while ago I made a thread about what I thought happen during the end of Kare Kano’s production and because of these wonderful translation of Bluray booklet from
@riki_hi
we can see I was right.
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Thanks to Misato, I am no longer a Drive Guy, Happy Valentines Day!
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Seems I've fallen into a bit controversy of late haha well later on I'll explain the full story for now let me leave you with how it was very known at Warner that Telecom (called TMS here) outsourced on their productions from time to time.
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@bonsai_pop
It seems them catching up with the manga would be the reason since they knew it was the last arc.
Kubo talked recently about this "I started ... Blood War around the time it was decided... the anime would end". Rather than the show being cancelled.
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So there's a lot of evidence on Anno directing up until the end of Kara Kano, but I thought I'd share some of the funnier ones like the LD/VHS covers and the final script he's written all his notes over
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I made a new series called Stevem's Anime Corner for Patrons where I'll talk about stuff I've watched later or anime stuff in general. I guess now Tucker Carlson is on twitter this fake outrage bit is relevant, anyway Onimai is great, trans rights.
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Some may not know this but Yasuo Otsuka was one of the defining influences on Redlines Animation
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The other day I made a thread about why there’s no evidence that bleach was cancelled, but there’s even more to this, because we haven't asked the question, how does anime make money or get funded?
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today
My Hideaki Anno video is done and on Patreon now, public version coming soon!
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NO CRUNCH, since there was no deadline there was no crunch(allegedly) and its said the staff were looking “more human.” Even Miyazaki was getting home by 8pm.
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