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I'm here for all the things I like | canon purist | shoujo anime, c-novels/dramas | clerith, aerti, caitvi, rhaenicent, jackieshauna, wenclair, stsg, etc
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By the way lesbians can hate cisghet ships and if you are trying to impose your heterosexual fantasies on us then just fuck off. Even if I like some straight couple I still prioritize my community.
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81k likes... another reminder to CTs that most people who played the game but didn't interact with the fandom are supporters of CA. Casual fans don't care about mental gymnastics. Unbiased people who are not already involved in fandom discourse have the most objective opinion
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@rossacomeercore
@holodmedia
Почему эта логика не работает в обе стороны? Почему только в случае, если речь идет о женском поле?
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@tonybelieveme
Вообще считаю, что большинство из популярных фандомов реально не предназначены для тинейджеров. И однако они заявляются в эти взрослые пространства и пытаются качать свои права. Мне бы их уровень самоуверенности))
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These two are coded as a canonical couple. You'd be surprised, but publishers and authors in conservative countries with anti-LGBT laws don't openly declare the canonicity of queer couples. They always use queer coding. I realize this concept is hard to accept but not everywhere
This shows just how desperate these people want to make their ship canon. Gege dgaf
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@paths100
@sugurukook
@Tn0pi
@itfs4ever
And this is a typical example of conservative propaganda where lgbt people are lumped into the same category as pedophiles.
Note that no one would say that about people who ship straight couples like yuji and nobara or ochako and izuku.
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From the way some fans hate Aerith and don't recognize her crucial role in saving the planet, I can only conclude that our girl should have just let the damn meteorite crash into Earth.
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Gege didn't write stsg parallel to canon gay couple for some bitches to compare them to random crack ships 😭
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@CourtneyWest19
The cinematic language literally screams for romance between Cloud and Aerith. It is so obvious because the game uses common patterns to create romance. Obviously, these people's view of love is very eroticized. They have forgotten what classic romance looks like.
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@denji253
sasusaku, naruhina, eremika, aruani... I mean, art and fanfics can be very good, but the source material is crap.
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@kosa_media
Она не давала согласие и находилась в бессознательном состоянии, это изнасилование.
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By the way I actually think Tifa is a very comphet coded. It's just that she only thought about Cloud being attractive after her mom told her. Also, because of his role as a hero and SOLDIER, he was very distant from her physically and emotionally, but she follows him because
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THIS. Also Aerith's personality could really be considered an influence of feminism, as she undermines the traditional image of Japanese women by being loud, flirty and proactive. Recognizing that this flamboyant personality of the main heroine is just a credit to some random man
i think from time to time we need to criticize sqe because the reason why aerith's traits are entwinted to zack isn't for romantic reasons unfortunately it's because of pure misogyny💔 just letting that out there
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@DevoutKamaSimp
How many canonical and officially confirmed queer couples in shonen do you know?
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@DevoutKamaSimp
I mean queer couples that would have any meaningful role in the plot.
If you don't know why I chose shonen, that says a lot about your attitude. You chose to argue with me instead of looking critically at the claim that the most popular anime (which are senen titles)
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ofc the orchestra performance that took place in Japan is even more dedicated to Clerith than anywhere else. I mean, Aerith is a common type of main heroine in Asia who represents a person who stays true to her high moral ideals and beliefs even in the face of death.
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@raechui
It's funny that a certain part of the fandom was sure that Jere would use slut shaming, but it was Conrad who ended up doing it.
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@damictoria
@ok_sirok
Пару лет назад в тви гулял список с пунктами, которые могли "сбивать" женщин с пути самоопределения себя как wlw онли. Вот этот пункт с недостижимыми критериями идеального мужчины там тоже был (селебрити, вымышленные персонажи, отношения на расстоянии etc).
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she's convinced he's perfect for her. It's like it's not about feelings, just thoughts. The scene at the water tower is literally her main memory of Cloud even though they had never been close before. All the interactions between C and T are very awkward and
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Imagine making flirting an issue. Why do they think a woman should have a patronizing function over a man like she's his mother instead of an equal romantic partner who is also worthy of attention and affection? Why the hell do they talk about Tifa like she's some kind of servant
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funny that it's actually ereh who is the ugly bitch here.
also I find it very disturbing that you guys are calling a character with distinctly asian features an ugly bitch while a mid white character is labeled beautiful. I don't care if it's a joke your ass is still weird.
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Zack died 5 years ago and Aerith doesn't belong to him. ff7 will always be a love story between Cloud and Aerith, and it's not about sex. It's like your view of all these characters' relationships is so damn shallow 😭
I want to thank all of the Cloud Strife fans out there who don't think he is gonna try to fck Zack's girlfriend who he knew 16 days.
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I know canonically Tifa has an inferiority complex too, so the distant and mysterious Cloud is needed to compensate that. But it could also be interpreted as Tifa being comphet.
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they both seem to fulfill their roles: Tifa as the perfect girl to be saved and Cloud as the perfect hero who must save the girl and become her prince. It's just all so fake that it makes you wonder if Tifa _really_ likes Cloud.
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I realize fanfics are fun to read, but right now you should close your browser tab and check canon because in canon, Sasuke wanted to destroy Konoha along with all its civilians and be an enemy of humanity. He wanted to commit genocide.
Sasuke: "I want justice and to change the system responsible for the genocide of my people."
The narrative of Naruto: "Okay so clearly he's insane, evil, lost in the darkness, and 100% at fault here. He needs to be bought back to the village (which did nothing wrong btw)!"
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What the hell are you talking about? Aerith regrets not having carefree memories with loved ones when she was a child. That's not even a subtext, that's CLEAN text 😭
Funny 'cuz...
Aerith's interest in Cloud stem from him reminding her of Zack. Someone Cloud based his false persona on.
She even spends a chunk of the game trying to replicate her date with Zack, but with Cloud in his place.
She even envies what CT have on a water tower replica
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This orchestra is all about Clerith and nothing else. Literally every musical performance and video accompaniment is all about them. Aerith is the heart and soul of ff7 and that will never change.
Hollows performance ending with Aeris
NPTK and Loveless showing off Cloud w/Aeris.
Wonder if square enix is trying to say something.
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@damictoria
@ok_sirok
Ай мин подразумевалось что интерес к этим недостижимым образам не имеет отношения к реальной сексуальной ориентации.
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@not_okay_ll
радфем опять позорятся.
Квир опыт универсален и близок для всех квиров, будь то млм или влв пары. Видимо, для радфемок осознать что-то настолько простое - это уже слишком сложно. Ну, знаете, какие-то сложные эмоции, привязанность, родство, сопереживание, должно быть, вводят их
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«... and the whole world will die, because there is no justice in it.»
Alina
#Карамора
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@DevoutKamaSimp
You literally pull arguments out of your ass and think you've done something.
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ff16 is the only game in the FF series that is most targeted at Western audiences. Sex scenes are not typical for Asian media. You would know this if you actually watched the most famous romance shows. Also, J and C's kiss is an unavoidable part of the story, not fanservice.
Cleriths be like: "Yeah umm East Asian culture is more reserved and a kiss is not how they show couples because blah blah blah and since FFVII is a japanese game Clerith is the real couple here"
Forgetting Final Fantasy XVI is a JAPANESE game
Dumbasses
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Narrative parallels are nothing new, especially when it comes to good works with a well-developed plot, where the parallels are meant to focus your attention on the author's thought or a particular issue. Since the main themes of ff7 have always been the value of life and
Everyone out here taking this and trying to twist it to their shipping narratives feels just a little...𝘸𝘦𝘪𝘳𝘥, let's say lmao. Barret is Barret. Let Barret be Barret.
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Real people got hurt precisely because your baiting drowned out the voices of whistleblowers who warned of a real predator in your midst, but you didn't take it seriously enough because of prejudice.
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@LastEndspiel
@gerdaikai
@bumerahg
@Vidineev_Dima
Просто хочу сказать, что наделение сексуальным подтекстом взаимоотношений детей со стороны взрослого человека - вещь крайне тревожная и нездоровая. Другие дети могут употреблять некорректные термины, даже не понимая их смысла.
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I think to say that CT fans were only arrested because of the ship war is understating the problem. It's really all about some radical CT shippers leaking personal information to harass people over pixels.I mean there's a difference between fandom ship discourse and literal crime
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What if I told you that Aerith not only has a tragic backstory and a kind personality, but she also clearly follows the principles of existentialism in her words and actions, making her the only top tier character in the entire game, not just the main heroine, what then?
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It is very presumptuous to rely on localizations in other languages when there have been many cases of mistranslations reported. If you want to make a credible argument, at least use Japanese.
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To compare encouraging and consuming porn to writing romantic fanfics about your fav characters is so dumb. You're missing any brain cells.
@uhhmmily
because straight women objectify and sexualise mlm relationships the same way straight men objectify and sexualise wlw relationships
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because their perceptions are not distorted by the lens of fandom headcanons. Non-fandom players tend to see the author's intent more clearly.
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@tikhondzyadko
ХАМАС не равно обычные мирные граждане Палестины. Что ж вы такие непробиваемые людоеды-то.
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@nastasya_di
Единственный норм вариант - разделить домашние дела поровну, чтоб у вас не было вечного выбора между карьерой и домом и при этом мужчина не садился на шею.
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Well then your fake fan ass can't stand Gojo without Geto's moral compass. Once again Gojo wouldn't be himself without Geto. Deal with it.
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You're too weak and can't even handle stsg shippers. Like you'd die on the spot if gege officially confirmed stsg as canon 😭
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@athrunchan1
@CourtneyWest19
All their reasoning about CT's sex is such a cringe. Goddess give me strength.
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@v_milov
Осознают. Иначе бы и в голову не пришло скрывать лица.
Каждая шавка будет призвана к ответственности за свои преступления. Анонимность сохранить более не выйдет — не средневековье.
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@LiraCentavra
Тот случай, когда надо и родителям пизды дать, и детям хоть какое-то наказание. Потому что это жесть лютая. Сегодня жертвой стал котенок, а завтра - сверстник.
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I don't understand why you speak with disdain and devaluation about the interests of other people, but at the same time you take the position of a victim when people refuse to remain silent in response to your provocations.
aqua is just a clone of every angsty white fuckboy that i went to high school with, why is he
#1
???💀
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@SpaceFel
@nisht_azoyner
Он неэтичное хамло и незрелый долбоеб с продолжающимся юношеским максимализмом в свои 25 годиков. Какие нах чувства и дискомфорт, в глаза не долбитесь.
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I just wasn't surprised by the new canonical info since CA theorists predicted everything long ago. But I will always laugh at how delusional CTs are
A DYSFUNCTIONAL RELATIONSHIP YOU SAY???
Even after seeing "the kiss"???
Not a "couple" or "lovers" but a DYSFUNCTIONAL relationship????
Straight from t*fas mouth? DAMN LMAOOOOO
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@LastEndspiel
@gerdaikai
@bumerahg
@Vidineev_Dima
Но когда взрослый человек делает то же самое совершенно осознанно - это указывает на повышенный интерес к сексуальности детей, что само по себе ненормально.
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@not_okay_ll
в ступор. Для них всё дело в сексах. Радфем умеют мыслить только в двух категориях "хорошо" и "плохо", нюансов не существуют.
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It's too hard for them to grasp the concept that queer fans find fictional queer ships very relational to their personal experiences. Of course, arrogant cishet idiots know better what a marginalized community of people feel and think.
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@FellowClerith
The problem is that they're too biased because of their sympathy for T's character, so they tend to distort/deny canon in favor of fanon. I've seen this behavior in different fandoms, and it's always due to people not being interested in canon to the extent they should be
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@ActuallyCloud
How much Clotis have to gaslight themselves and their community to maintain their false narrative? The Clerith orchestra has knocked them out of their fantasies so badly 😭
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@AlianaAngel1
I agree with this. For me, the friendship between Aerith & Tifa & Barret is better written than the one between Tifa and Cloud.
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@wombat_batyanya
С этим тейком согласна. Но также считаю, что жена охуевшая. Типа что мешает выйти из старых отношений в вольное плавание прежде чем прыгать к левому челу на член. Не важно, какой пол у человека, совершившего измену, это всё ещё дерьмовый поступок.
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@MoonlightCrys17
Clerith was my first straight ship. I have always interpreted them as the queerest ship in ff7 of all heterosexual couples.
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The whole problem with this character is that he drew the wrong conclusions and went down the wrong path. You can't achieve positive change through violence, this is shown in the example of Danzo and Itachi. Also, genocide wouldn't be the justice you're talking about.
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It would be another huge injustice and a horrible tragedy that creates a flame of hatred in the hearts of the survivors.
I'm so tired of people in fandom spaces not understanding the most basic things.
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the loss of a loved one, the narrative parallel between Clerith and Barret/Myrna fits well with the author's intent. It's not about the ships, it's about how interested the developers are in having the players interpret their intentions and ideas correctly.
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@korysverse
You should show more respect for the ancestors of the modern interpretation of the etl plot. Reylo are a phenomenon.
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to appease conservative weirdos is such a strong throwback to traditionalism. That's why I think Z*rith is an absolute parasitization of Aerith and a mockery of everyone who genuinely loves her.
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and Cloud is her master? Why does she have to literally DISAPPEAR if he shows even the slightest discomfort? Tifa's shyness is her fear and insecurity, so she needs an honest and accepting partner with whom she can feel safe enough to relax and have fun.
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@I_am_ovosh_
@Alice_Traum
"мне не жаль людей, которых я травила, мне скорее обидно за себя" я в ауте от того, что у вас даже после осознания ситуации не включается эмпатия. Причина травли - отсутствие эмпатии. Дальше можно не продолжать.
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The fact that this discourse is always started by annoying cishet ships fans to throw wlw and mlm fandoms under the bus speaks volumes 😭
You're all very weird about queers who don't conform to patriarchal standards of gender roles.
some of you hate het ships but are obsessed with one man being masculine and the other being feminine in your yaoi ship
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Aerith is number one in every way. I mean that's not even my interpretation, that's what the devs state
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Aerith confessed her feelings to Cloud in the church among the flowers, and he enclosed her in his warm embrace in front of God, who witnessed their feelings. Tons of copium won't hide the elephant in the room.
This is about the dumbest shit I’ve ever had the misfortune of laying my eyes on.. really who comes up with this crap?
All the shit mentioned here isn’t even related, or taken out of context, or just straight up has no context..
Please replay rebirth please I beg you guys.
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@mlwjrpg
@ShinraArch
I truly believe they will bring her back. Otherwise this whole theme of fighting fate would look like a meaningless mockery
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@irajule13
@MoonlightCrys17
There are many queer people among the fans of Cloud and Aerith. Clerith doesn't even have a strict adherence to traditional gender roles. The antis' accusations are unfounded.
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@AAluminium
Те самые тикток стилисты за неимением реальных достижений самоутверждаются за счет других, в то время время как люди, достигшие реальных высот, просто не нуждаются в такой стратегии самовозвышения.
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@seashellsnstars
those people are so unserious like what do you mean when you say that devs, music execs and most fans make everything about clerith when they are literally the center of the narrative lmao
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It's just so crazy that in my country with homophobic laws there's a line of comics in which the villain is in a canonical relationship with a man. I feel so good about that fact.
А ведь еще пару лет назад у нас было ЭТО
До сих пор помню, как у меня сердечко стучало на этих моментах💔
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@irajule13
@MoonlightCrys17
You're right!
Aerith has powerful bisexual vibes. I've seen fanarts of Aerith taking the lead in a dance with Cloud. She was wearing a suit and he was wearing a dress. The changing of gender roles in their relationship looks very organic and canonical.
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Sometimes you need to close the ao3 tab and read the official canonical sources.
@CloudxAerith
ur ship is literally dead, aerith is literally dead asl and cloud is living his life w his wife and kids bruh
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@janesmjolnir
@hawkeyesquared7
Why do you consider yourself morally superior to other people and turn a blind eye to the obvious problematic aspects of what you like? It's like we're all in the same boat, only you're wearing sheep's clothing, pretending to be someone you're not.
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After this post, you will again complain about toxic fans. Maybe you'll care more about what you like instead of fighting against what you hate?
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@RexSterlingLive
Cloud and Aerith, since Aerith is the strongest heroine, and Cloud is interested in protecting her at all costs.
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@mlwjrpg
How do they manage to read clean text that doesn't even have any other interpretation and pull some random set of incoherent thoughts out of it. I swear even chatgpt would do a better job!
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@VladAyran
@pisyakisya89
Эмпатия сама по себе не проблема. Проблемой может быть ваша тревожная привязанность, из-за которой вы залипаете на девушек, которые отвергают вас
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@ac03403918
@haruvlt
Love is something you build together with your partner. Belly doesn't love Conrad, she's obsessed with the perfect fantasy of Conrad.
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