@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks The better biologists all understand the problem. You're trying to make this well-known paradox at the heart of biology into something obscure. And try to force this a weird "common sense" approach where function "obviously" exists (though you can't measure it).

@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Don't dodge the question: what precisely was the function of the intermediate organ between swim bladder and lung?

@incellectual If it was normal there was no need for your idiotic Nordic Model, that the great moral superpower of Sweden tries to export. /s

@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks "Teleology is like a mistress to a biologist: he cannot live without her but he's unwilling to be seen with her in public." (J. B. S. Haldane)

@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Do you seriously think "function" is a fundamental property of the universe, like mass or charge? Sounds pretty ridiculous to me. Obviously it's a human projection.

@Kassandra_Zerb @HuggableHedgie @9NinetyOneNine @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks It depends. On the one hand, it's a tautology and trivially true. A mere consequence of the definition. OTOH, it's false. There is no reason to believe that e.g. it's a law of the universe that humans could not continue to exist without it (using artificial means like cloning).

@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks My view is very simple. It's just that scientific realism CANNOT be true for biology. B/c biologists think in teleological language (eg what function organs have). "The foundations are the most controversial parts of many, if not all, sciences." (Leonard J. Savage)

@Kassandra_Zerb @HuggableHedgie @9NinetyOneNine @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Well, the fundamental problem is that biology employs teleological language ("reproductive POTENTIAL"), but OTOH has to deny teleology exists. And translating teleological language in non-teleological language is usually impossible. F. Ayala admits that much.

@vnprkhzhk @WagenWatch Das Prestige der Satire kommt aus Zeiten, wo man so effektiv die Zensur umging (Voltaire). Jetzt haben wir ein anderes Problem: die Wahrheit kann ja ausgesprochen werden. Sie versinkt nur in Desinformation. Sonneborn zeigt wie leicht Satire im 21. Jh. anti-aufklärerisch wird.

@Micha_weiss_es @WagenWatch Na, Sexarbeit ist eine persönliche Entscheidung. Was die EMMA dagegen macht, ist keine Privatangelegenheit: sie zieht uns alle da mit rein, durch die Verbreitung von pro-Kreml Desinformation.

@WagenWatch Wenn es doch nur BELEGE für diese ominösen, von Putin angebotenen Verhandlungen geben würde!!

@heikateryna @HuggableHedgie @Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @One_Supernova @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Supernova said that, who you defended Since you obviously haven't even achieved a consensus on how sex should be defined in your little club - why don't you all go back to the drawing board and sort out your differences? We'll have a look again after you have done that, OK?

@HuggableHedgie @9NinetyOneNine @Kassandra_Zerb @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Yes, I will defend myself against your bad faith misconstruals. If you don't like that, then stop with this nonsense.

@HuggableHedgie @9NinetyOneNine @Kassandra_Zerb @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Seriously, you STILL don't understand and misconstrue me? I never said that evolution is teleological. Ridiculous. But you obviously assume a teleological essence of femaleness.

Der ÖRR umgibt sich mit dem Nimbus eines vertrauenswürdigen + seriösen Informationskanals. In der Realität sitzt er an riesigen Fleischtöpfen - OHNE Kontrolle, OHNE Mitspracherecht . ÖRR so: "Korruptionsskandale? Lobbies? Desinformation? Bei UNS? Wie ist das nur möglich?" 🤦

@markoh1971 @gandalf_fire Naja, auf die Zweitstimme trifft es genauso zu, wegen 5% Hürde. Die Erststimme ist mittlerweile durch die Wahlrechtsreform komplett entwertet und noch sinnloser als sie es eh schon war.

@Kassandra_Zerb @9NinetyOneNine @HuggableHedgie @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks "B... BUT ... structural disposition..."

@HuggableHedgie @9NinetyOneNine @Kassandra_Zerb @One_Supernova @heikateryna @IHaveOTDSD @inquisitrix @tonysullybooks Since Supernova ("lover of truth and civil discussions") blocked me: What happened to the gonads? Not only can they be biologically programmed not to function (like in worker bees). They don't have to exist! 🤣 I WAS correct: you assume a teleological essence of femaleness.