Nicola Toki
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Wild at heart Mum & Critter Lady. Chief Executive of @forest_and_bird 🌿🦜. This is my personal account so views are my own.
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"When you're working for a not-for-profit and you know that everything is paid for by hard working NZers, who took money out of their pocket for you to do this work, it’s an enormous responsibility & privilege, & is something that makes me really proud."
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Um. Literally your job. Imagine if we'd had this mentality when we saved the black robin, or the kākāpō from extinction.
Not good enough. Another day, another example of the
#waronnature
(via
@NewsroomNZ
)
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A senior cabinet Minister in
@chrisluxonmp
's govt didn't declare a meeting he had with (now 3) mining companies, doesn't remember the letter from Stevensons to
@cjsbishop
& himself about the dinner with him & how Jones suggested Te Kuha go on a list we can't see or submit about.
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All the angry men with numbers on their Twitter handles can't make up for the aroha & whānaungatanga I've seen in two days at the
@AklWritersFest
, including a sold out session to Te Tiriti 101, mostly filled with pakeha who cheerfully sang 2 tautoko waiata. Couldn't be prouder 🌿
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From a couple of weeks ago near Kaikōura. The crew I was with were so excited to be in the presence of these endangered dolphins. Nobody got cross about them being in our way... we just slowed down and enjoyed them.
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Really interested to hear
@cjsbishop
tell reporters that he'd been talking with environment sector ahead of the
#fastrack
proposed legislation. As CE of NZ's largest & longest serving ENGO, we weren't consulted. We got a letter & 12 days to respond & a cancelled meeting tho 🙅♀️
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I've finished the March for Nature and there are still people all the way up Queen St as far as the eye can see!
Over 20,000 people have turned out in Auckland today for the March for Nature to protest the Luxon Government’s fast-track bill and ‘war on nature’.
#marchfornature
#stopfasttrack
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"You don't give New Zealanders 12 days to have a say on something as fundamentally important to our environment and communities as changes to the Resource Management Act," - Richard Capie.
People are horrified by this anti-nature undemocratic approach. Not the Kiwi way at all.
Forest and Bird unhappy with Government's plan to fast-track RMA reforms
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Btw just FYI I’m not into the whole “everyone’s going to get it” mentality about Covid. There are too many vulnerable people for this to be an acceptable approach to our friends and whānau, so I’m trying quite hard not to get it thanks all the same.
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Yesterday he was outed on a secret dinner with Stevensons Mining (who've repeatedly failed in court to mine Te Kuha), today we learn that Bathurst & Federation Mining were there too. Still no list for scrutiny & Cab Minister hiding meetings.
#waronnature
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The PM
@chrisluxonmp
said that this government had signaled with voters what they intended to do. I don't think that the public voted for a
#waronnature
and a removal of environmental protections & democratic process for communities to have a say. This isn't the kiwi way.
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Are we now in a position where our politicians are openly advocating for an extinction of an endangered species over mining interests?
(I'm running out of emojis to describe this).
Minister Shane Jones in Parliament “In those areas called the DOC estate, where it's stewardship land… if there is a mineral, if there is a mining opportunity and it's impeded by a blind frog, goodbye, Freddy”. This is a dark comedy
@naturevision
@WWFNewZealand
@GreenpeaceNZ
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We haven't supported our farming communities by delaying action for 20+ years. Now we have farmers under sig pressure, the 6th highest emissions in the developed world, freshwater pollution up the wazoo & $20 blocks of cheese. We haven't helped them. We need Leadership.
'We've got an entire sector of the economy that refuses to engage in the rules that everybody else follows': Forest & Bird CEO Nicola Toki blasts NZ farming sector's attitude to emissions tax
#NationNZ
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Dear everyone in NZ, WATCH THIS.
Especially NZ government leaders (including the last lot who approved 80 mining activity permits on public conservation land).
"It's like eating a tub of ice cream & an enormous cake & saying 'but I had a salad, so why haven't I lost weight?'".
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I just attended the Newshub debate. A critical time to hear leaders on major issues. The disconnect is astonishing. I got back to headlines of floods in southland & wind fuelling fires in the MacKenzie. Not one mention of climate change or environment in
@NewshubNationNZ
debate
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We at
@Forest_and_Bird
are genuinely curious as to how the Minister
@cjsbishop
thinks we can provide informed feedback by 12th Feb deadline, given the meeting he wanted to set up to "discuss the proposals and understand our perspectives" won't have taken place by then... ?
@cjsbishop
is this what consultation looks like now? “My officials will be in touch to seek a meeting to discuss the proposals & understand your perspective. All feedback provided by Feb 2024 will inform the new bill to be introduced to Parliament in early March.”
#fasttrack
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"I have never heard so many Kiwis express dismay at what they see as a failure of the democratic process as at present, as leaders from minor parties ... insult the goodwill and intelligence of the electorate by trying to impose policies for which they do not enjoy a mandate" 🌿
Week in Review:
New Prime Minister Christopher Luxon needs to step in, stop the minor parties' anti-democratic posturing and weave the people back together, writes Dame Anne Salmond
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A powerful shoutout by
@NZ_PCE
Simon Upton in his scathing submission on the Fast Track bill. "I encourage you to examine
@Forest_and_Bird
's analysis forensically & take their recommendations seriously. They've got very good lawyers. I think they know what they're talking about."
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Yep. He was forced to by the Ombudsman after we complained.
@Forest_and_Bird
I really think the media should give Chris Bishop a hard time about saying this.
“In the interests of transparency, I have decided to release this list of organisations."
This is not transparency, it's civil society pressure & the ombudsman.
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Can someone tell me how a new Minister for Hunting sits within National's proposed sweeping cuts of the public service, because they think there is "too much bureaucracy"? What could be more of an unnecessary back office job than that? Especially given huge numbers of 🦌 🐖 🐐?
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The first 2 very frightening stories on the news tonight are about the terrifying impacts of increased climate change events. Tonight's Port Hills fire & the stories of still devastated Kiwis 1 year after Cyclone Gabrielle. Please, please can the government take this seriously?
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I'm just watching the news reports on how 2023 was the hottest year on record globally... meanwhile, in NZ, we're debating fast tracking of coal mines on conservation land... 🙄
#racetothebottom
#fasttrackwrongtrack
#waronnature
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My epic
@Forest_and_Bird
legal team had three wins in the courts this week, including a significant Supreme Court win. 🌳🐦. A positive reminder of the power of advocacy despite current rhetoric.
#givingnatureavoice
#hattrick
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🐸 😢
A senior Minister in New Zealand overtly stating his preference for mining interests over the extinction of a globally endangered species.
Globally embarrassing.
Not on our watch.
#waronnature
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The
@Forest_and_Bird
team & I are proud to support this, along with Benee, Fat Freddy’s Drop, Supergroove, Phoenix Foundation, Che Fu, Georgia Lines, Hollie Smith & Don McGlashan, Goldenhorse, Goodshirt, Pluto, Greg Johnson, Kings & Ladi 6
@Morgandonocoro
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This 👇
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In my latest eg of "extensive engagement", last Thursday at 4.06pm I received a form letter from
@cjsbishop
asking for our thoughts on the next phase of RM reform. Important given 30 years of legislative context on highly complex issues. Timeframe? 3 working days.
#warronnature
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It's not bending to "minority interests" to carry out your business activity in such a way that endangered species are protected in accordance with the law on behalf of the people of NZ. We wouldn't have a rally through kākāpō habitat, there are obviously mitigations that occur
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NZ is making international headlines for all the wrong reasons. This govt's
#waronnature
is now globally embarrassing. 🤦♀️
#byebyefreddy
🐸
New Zealand plans to put big developments before the environment. That’s dangerous | Nicola Wheen and Andrew Geddis
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Um. Who donated is important here. This is because:
- Kiwis STILL haven't seen a list of fast track developments to go in the bill, despite select committee on now.
- The Ombudsman had to force the release of the list of developers invited by the govt.
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NZ continues its international sprint to the environmental bottom...
Forest & Bird condemns the Government decision to torpedo the creation of the Kermadec Rangitāhua Ocean Sanctuary, saying it is a major blow to global efforts to protect the ocean, and to the legacy of former Prime Minister Sir John Key.
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"We will support whatever the industry wants" - Christopher Luxon on
@NZMorningReport
just now re addressing farm emissions.
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Cutting the Department of Conservation, who already have been cut to the bone, with a budget same as Christchurch City Council, is not good business sense, when they protect the very engine room of our economy.
#waronnature
#dobetter
MEDIA RELEASE: The Govt's proposed job cuts to DOC will have long-term consequences for nature. It's another salvo in the
#WaronNature
at time when we are in a biodiversity crisis and climate crisis.
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So
@jacktame
asked
@cjsbishop
if development projects that have been rejected by the courts can now go through the fast track legislation. The answer is yes. Also note the Minister for the Environment is kept out of the process.
#waronnature
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To all the X users with numbers after your handle (e.g. John33665 or Lynn988808), cheers for your forceful reckons about climate change and how this is just like summer in the 70s. I for one believe in science so I'm sticking with that.
#becausescience
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Could not be prouder to tell you all that Critters of Aotearoa is NZ's number 1 bestselling children's book this week!!!! Thank you!!!!
#critteroftheweek
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“If an individual Minister will now instead be able to essentially single-handedly approve a new application to mine, without public scrutiny or decent environmental consideration, that’s a massive loss for democracy, climate & biodiversity.”
#waronnature
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The last time a government tried to destroy public conservation land by enabling mining, they had to back down. I was there along with 40 000 Kiwi folk giving nature a voice. This isn't who we are, no matter what flavour govt is in power 🌿
#waronnature
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Every New Zealander should read & understand this analysis by legal firm Bell Gully of the differences between the previous fast track leg & the current proposed bills. The differences are startling and are anti democratic and anti nature.
#waronnature
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"Until it is passed into law, this bill has no legal standing. By behaving as though it has already been passed, the ministers are treating the democratic process with contempt."
Dame Anne Salmond to a select comittee examining the Fast-Track Approvals Bill, which gives ministers wide new powers over major projects and the environment.
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Are we just not going to do the evidence based decision-making making that was in the coalition agreement?
#NZ
sea lion is classified as endangered & as the most threatened sea lion in world. Main breeding population in Auckland Is declined 50% between 2000-2014. Yet Oceans/Fisheries Minister is scrapping limit fishing industry can “accidentally kill. Tragic:
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Last night I went to Mr 8's school 'S' themed disco. Because he was at a mate's place after school, I went alone. In a wetsuit & snorkel. On arrival, I saw no other parents in costume 😬. I went in anyway 😳, helped the PTA, danced with the kids & won a prize for dressing up. 🥳
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Do better New Zealand.
Several endangered bird nests have been "significantly disturbed" after a 150-strong 4WD Crate Day convoy.
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"Think Big and its aftermath are powerful examples of what can go wrong when a small group of politicians, who think they know best, deliberately curtail due process when it comes to making major decisions and instead take that power upon themselves."
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Thread: you know how there's debate about planting of native forests vs pines to reduce carbon? Huge up front costs either way, and takes a while to get up and running. What I find surprising is that we have an existing asset that can reduce our emissions significantly 1/n
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This isn't the NZ way... when one in 3 Kiwis consider protection of environment and conservation their most important issue. also, who unilaterally agrees to pollute our own water?
#dobetter
The Government is proposing to push through drastic changes that will weaken protection of our natural environment at a time when we are facing a climate and biodiversity crisis - without letting the public have their say. It's death by 1000 cuts😢
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Supporting our rangatahi with my
@Forest_and_Bird
team to fight this government's
#waronnature
for all of their and our sakes. 🌳🐦
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Remember that time that 40 000 NZers marched up Queen Street to protect schedule four land (including National Parks) and forced the govt to backtrack on their plans?
The Govt has removed the Coromandel from Schedule 4, that hard-won protection from open cast mining, of the Crown Minerals Act for the Fast Track!!!!!
This is HUGE! Shane Jones has re-opened the Coromandel Peninsula for open cast mining!!!
#ExpectResistance
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Hundreds and hundreds of people online for our
@Forest_and_Bird
webinar about fast track bill right now. People are appalled by the threat to our nature. This is not the Kiwi way.
#waronnature
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Forest & Bird leader shut out of Shane Jones meeting by police. "Perhaps she deserves a military medal for trying. I’ve met with the ladies of Forest and Bird, including (CE) Nicola Toki & I’d be happy to meet with Ms Hills in person." Ladies = leaders 🤦♀️
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Personally, I hate this. We live in a small village & the speed limit increases at the farm next door. There is a primary school a couple of hundred metres away. Driving in from 100km/hr to 50km/hr was bloody dangerous for children, pets & the community. 80km/hr has been a relief
The Government has announced the next steps to reverse Labour’s blanket speed limit reductions on State highways and local roads.
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Not to mention the site that has been vetoed for mining, not once but 3 times. In the last case, Stevensons Mining had to pay over $200k to
@Forest_and_Bird
& DOC in costs. The proposed bill would enable this thrice declined development to be fast tracked.
#dinnerwithshanejones
This is the site of the proposed Te Kuha coal mine.
Home to several threatened species and has been refused in the past because it would be so damaging.
But it could become a reality under Luxon's Fast Track Bill.
March Against Mining!
March For Nature
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Read: The big issue here is that a non-profit shouldn't have to be the watchdog on fundamental processes that are part of our government systems. If the Fast Track Bill process was such a good one, why all the obfuscation & lack of transparency?
#waronnature
#fasttrackwrongtrack
Ombudsman rules Government acted unlawfully by refusing to release information about the Fast Track Approvals Bill. The public deserve to know how the Fast Track Approvals Bill might affect them, their local communities and the wider environment.
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Forest and Bird concerned over Govt Fast Track bill
"The chief executive of
@Forest_and_Bird
, Nicola Toki, says three Government ministers will be given unbridled power to approve any development they want, no matter how damaging to the environment."
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Tonight's polls another reflection that anti nature anti democratic legislation isn't the Kiwi way. People want to be heard & not steam rolled when it comes to their back yards and the environment they care about (& no surprise to hear concern about fast track in IVs with public)
Auditor general highlights democratic risks. Parliamentary commissioner for the environment highlights risks to nature - 2 key independent officers of Parliament flagging major concerns about Fast-Track legislation.
#waronnature
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Forest and Bird chief executive Nicola Toki said Simmonds comments about environmental protection going too far “flies in the face of all the science and the evidence”.
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I'm no longer going to quietly cringe at the sexism I've heard over past 20yrs from men in power. So FYI your staff turnover rate isn't cos 'ladies' keep leaving to have babies, it's 'parents'. I'm not 'emotive' when holding a colleague to account, I'm asking him to do his job.
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If you're wondering what cuts to the Department of Conservation will look like, here's a handy reflection from the last time this happened, only this time the cumulative impact of climate impacts will make it significantly worse for nature & communities
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Stoked to hear
@chrisluxonmp
say that "We were not elected to manage decline," given our 4000 threatened species and pending significant cuts to DOC'S budget. Does this mean we will now see an investment mindset into the wildlife and wild places that define us? Great stuff! 🌿
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If
@cjsbishop
is confident that his fast track bill will "develop the economy & look after the environment at the same time", why override all envtal legislation, keep the Min for Environment out of the process & have 3 non expert Ministers who can veto panel recommendations? 🤔
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"NZ made a brief appearance in yesterday’s fossil fuel debate. It won the first Fossil of the Day award of this COP for the National-led govt’s promise to revoke the previous govt’s ban on offshore oil exploration beyond Taranaki’s coastal waters." 😬🇳🇿
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So who did
@cjsbishop
have "extensive engagement" with from the environment sector? 🤔 a great read & calling out of unverified public statements by
@HaydenDonnell
#waronnature
#wrongtrack
Chris Bishop said he’d carried out extensive engagement with the environmental sector. The environment sector says otherwise.
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NZers have already made it clear that to "extract the dividend from Mother Nature's legacy" is not who we are. Also, when we've just heard that we must keep fossil fuels in the ground, let's remember the coalition agreements are to be evidence based.
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"It's time for decision-makers to take their bread & butter & eat a reality sandwich. We can't just saunter through a planet on fire like it's business as usual." FYI to all the parties who refused to front today.
@nzlabour
@NZNationalParty
@nzgreens
@Maori_Party
@NZGreens
& Act
Forest & Bird's CE Nicola Toki delivering her no holds barred State of the Nation address at Forest & Bird's Centennial Conference this morning💚
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So many people took the time to submit & make it clear they wanted to have a say, the response is to say too many people wanted a say so we're just going to pick less than half of them to actually have their say? Kiwis clearly don't support this govt's
#waronnature
. Read the room
Wait what? Their terrible fast track legislation brought in too many submitters so they’re going to pull names from a hat for the Select Committee hearings (rather than let everyone speak?)
Actually outrageous.
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You've still got time, not much, but still time to join the thousands of New Zealanders who have submitted against the deeply flawed fast track bill. Submissions close tomorrow night. Get in! 🌿
A personal message from Nicola Toki, Chief Executive of Forest & Bird. Submissions close tomm on the Govt's new Fast-track Approvals Bill to override environmental protections. Join 1000s of Kiwis who've said "No" to this attack on nature and democracy:
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And yet... 🦗🦗🦗
“Luxon must remove Jones after undeclared meeting with mining companies is revealed”
#SackShaneJones
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"There is little doubt the projects envisioned by this fast-track legislation will be, by & large, carried out by international corporates, the main objectives of which are to maximise returns to shareholders, precious few of which will be New Zealanders."
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This isn't fine. There are a lot of people in Canterbury, including parents of young children, like me. What's happened to us Kiwis with such a staunch history of standing up for ourselves (see Save Manapouri; Nuclear Free NZ etc) that we just "accept" this? Time to wake up again
Nitrate levels across Canterbury are increasing, with 40% of wells tested in the Ashburton water zone breaching the maximum national drinking water level.
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We got less than 48 hrs notice to front at Select Committee on the Government's Fast-Track bill. We are clear on what we are advocating for so that wasn't an issue for
@Forest_and_Bird
. However I'm conscious not everyone had the chance.
Watch: 46 mins in.
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The concern about fast track has well and truly spilled over from specific advocacy groups such as environmental NGOs, into the living rooms of concerned voters of all political stripes. This is about the fifth article I've seen in the last few days outlining the poor process.
The new fast-track bill has been described as "government by amateurs", with no checks and balances.
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Four working days to respond... Why? there's nothing to be afraid of in letting people have their say with a reasonable timeframe for them to do so. Kiwis have moved on & most I know want a fairer society, mature enough to understand past wrongs & build stronger communities.
Public submissions are now being called for the Local Government (Electoral Legislation and Māori Wards and Māori Constituencies) Amendment Bill. Make a submission by 11.59pm, Wednesday, 29 May:
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Just a wee reminder for anyone in this country who thinks we're "too small" & our emissions don't matter. 1. We are small. 2. They do. A lot. We can do better. Some courageous leadership would be awesome on this... (p.s. watch the video, the evidence is in the first few seconds).
ah… I see
#TERP
has hit Newshub and ZB socials, so time to roll out this vid for some ‘we’re too small to matter’ busting…
maybe should pre-emptively send round to committee in advance of Thursdays debate too… 🤔😬
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So the Minister wrote to at least two developers who withdrew from their court processes at the same time. Stevensons have lost in 3 separate court processes in their attempts to coal mine Te Kuha. It is disgraceful that we forced this announcement with hours to go.
#waronnature
With just hours to go till submissions close we now see who the Minister wrote to about the magical, ignore environmental outcomes to make money, listed projects. Submissions open till 11.59pm tonight 🐸💻🌏 Good work
@Forest_and_Bird
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"I think for the first time in my life I would actually feel betrayed by my government. I've never said that before, I've never thought that before - I never thought I would think that before - but I would feel betrayed.”
The fight for Pākiri
#waronnature
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So far this government has said a vehement & public yes to extinctions of endangered species, with a senior Minister in Luxon's Cabinet saying "Bye bye freddy 🐸" and we've got a Conservation minister & and an Environment Minister entirely missing in action. Are they OK?
"Do these guys really want to see species go extinct on their watch?"
Environmentalists are concerned about the government's fast-track consenting process - full story:
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Climate Change and Environment are out of cabinet. 🤦♀️🤯
Probably a good time to put this up again. Nature is going to need all the voices we can get.
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That moment of watching
@iamjohnoliver
on
@LastWeekTonight
to see him crow (pun!) about the pūteketeke results for
#birdofthecentury
& I pop up on the screen as part of the story! It's all v surreal & a huge thanks to our tireless
@Forest_and_Bird
team who've kept BOTC running!
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This is something everyone should have close eyes on. This environmentally destructive suite of "environmental" policies will not only take us back decades but amplify local extinctions of threatened species & irreversible damage to ecosystems. Our natural world can't sustain it
The coalition agreements contain many actions on the environment - most of them regressive and some that could take NZ back decades, writes environmentalist Gary Taylor
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Hunting Minister = higher ranked than Conservation Minister...
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"They say similar policies in the past have polluted their land & harmed their community, and they've passed a simple message on to ministers - never again." It was an honour to tautoko our friends at Ngāti Toa against this government's
#waronnature
today
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This is madness. The Hauraki District Council allowed international mining company OceaneaGold permission to mine on DOC land for $1 a year, via a road that doesn't exist in the real world, on protected land home to the most endangered & unique frog in the world 🐸
#nonewminesnz
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Watch out for this landing this morning. Anti nature and anti democratic.
"The lack of transparency and opportunity for the New Zealand public to participate in these processes is the most shocking thing.
#WarOnNature
#FastTrack
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In my experience working with conservation ministers of all political stripes over 20 yrs, they love the portfolio, cos a) often more junior ministers get higher profile & b) do cool nature stuff. No. of media releases on biodiversity from this one? Zero
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I know Kiwis of all political stripes feel helpless about the anti nature stance this govt has taken. I hear a lot of "We didn't vote for this..." sentiment. In the face of constantly divisive rhetoric, unifying over the thing we all love & connect to - nature - matters. June 8th
This month was the 14th anniversary of the March Against Mining in Auckland and the 20th anniversary of the Foreshore and Seabed hīkoi arriving at Parliament.
It's a time to march.
#WarOnNature
#nzpol
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And 94% of people didn't vote for Jones' party... I know many National voters who are concerned about coalition govt's anti nature stance. Bluegreen voters supported the National Party environment policy so where's that? And where's the Minister for the Environment in anything?
Shane Jones says people voted for change, but opponents say small cuts such as ending a special oceans secretariat are starting to add up.
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Genuinely this is deeply concerning from a democratic point of view. If the government are so confident they have the public's support, why are they hiding the info from us?
"RNZ's OIA requests to obtain answers have been rejected on the basis material will be released "proactively". But the agency leading the process cannot guarantee the proactive release will occur before public submissions close."
@KiwiFarah
#waronnature
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"What we've been talking about mostly is the job losses, but there's equivalent operating budget loss, & that just means DOC won't have capacity to deliver on species conservation programmes,"
"So we will likely lose species out of this."
@jo_monks_nz
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Good leaders make good decisions based on good evidence (see also the coalition agreement). Yet on the FastTrack (and other) bills, the public & experts are being shut out (although developers have been assisting them by providing input into the bill). What is the Govt afraid of?
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The attacks on nature & Māori have provided a very fertile ground for unity of purpose for environmental issues & iwi interests in many places, and while we may not agree on all the things, I for one am very much looking forward to our ongoing discussions and collaboration 🌿📞
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Great fun doing interviews with curious international journos today about
#BirdOfTheCentury
& why there is so much interest in our native wildlife. I wonder how the news would have gone down if it was pūteketeke & not endangered Archey's frogs whose habitat is about to be mined?
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"The rest of the world are very interested in our weird & wonderful native wildlife, particularly our birds, here in New Zealand, & they kind of expect that we're looking after them." Love from Leo - celeb fans lead to big jump in donations to conservation
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Wrote a book (based on 8 or more years of epic yarns with
@JMulliganRNZ
), & illustrated by the very talented Lily Duval. Lily is also part of the
#critteroftheweek
whānau who research, Wikipedia & amplify critter. It takes a village indeed. Thanks
@adzebill
and team. 🐸🦗🪼🐌🦎🪱
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"Overall, our ag emissions are six times greater per capita than the global average – all to feed, supposedly, 40 million people, just 0.5 percent of the world's population." A deeply worrying analysis from
@RodOramNZ
. When we fail our binding commitment, who picks up the tab? 😬
National's agricultural emissions policy is a sham and contains one of the most damaging of all declarations of climate denial
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"Anyone can see that giving politicians with such deep ties to the industry unbridled power to approve consents, without even having to consider environmental implications or local communities’ concerns, is incredibly problematic."
#waronnature
The fast-track consenting bill: what’s the story?
Rhiannon Mackie breaks it down👇
#nzpol
#waronnature
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"They're practically using the law before it's even passed." I highly recommend you take almost 10 mins from your evening to digest this analysis of the Government's
#waronnature
via the Fast Track Bill. It's anti democratic and anti environment & def "taking the p*ss."
What’s the “Fast Track Approvals Bill”?
Watch the full video here:
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Omg. The "what's your plan for the economy if we get rid of mining?" trolling is so 🥱. How about 1. no mining on PUBLIC conservation land where private industry profits from wrecking the nature; 2. Especially where some of the world's most threatened species live; 1/n
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