Dr. Joe J Placє 🇬🇧🇺🇦
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PhD Politics. English. In 🇺🇦. Co-host @FellasThinkTank . Poli theory and Eastern Europe. 🏳️🌈 Featured in a dumb viral meme. Blog
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I've decided to write some friendly advice for new Fellas. A lot of this has come from first and second had experiences. These are NOT rules. Just some tips to counter vatniks and to draw more people to NAFO (more donations!)
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If I lose this account. Know it was worth it.
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Need to buy some beer for Christmas, new year, hannukah, or any other winter holidays you may celebrate? Get yourself some Pilsner Urquell, for standing against russia
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Anarchist ukrainain memes are something else. Translation and context below
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Trying to rent a flat in UK with my Ukrainian wife:
What is her credit history
Give us 6 months of UK bank statements
Convince the landlord to grace you with a tiny cupboard for a small fortune
Us renting in Ukraine:
Are you russian? No? Here's the keys
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@julia_kanin
Are you kidding me? No condemnation? Mass marches, resignations, many people in the west condemned the war. Some of us oppose most wars in fact.
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Let's make a thread of bests Kherson liberation memes
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2. Be nice to other fellas. We are massively diverse, so if you really don't like something just don't follow or mute. Do NOT attack them unless they're a genuine fake fella, which is super obvious.
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Roger Waters has a free event you can register for. Be a shame if people booked tickets and didn't attend. Real shame...
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9. Be tolerant. We will all have our own views, beliefs, backgrounds. I personally engage with accounts with wildly different political views. But I don't tolerate racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia.
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7. Mock, don't argue. 99/100 times they arent going to change their mind. NAFO works because we don't dignify nonsense.
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If you follow me and I don't follow back drop a message and/or a meme
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8. Don't force rules! If you don't like something a fella says or does, move on. Otherwise we can have disputes and lose focus. NAFO is more than you.
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3. Article 5. This is best used rarely. Yesterday I called it to help a 🇺🇦 minister who was getting horrible nonsense on a post about his daughter. Don't use it on fellas, don't use it whenever you get attacked by one 6 follower account.
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6. Choose targets wisely. A 5 follower account isn't worth it and engaging can boost them. Replying to them is different, that can be fun. But also know when to block and stop. Mocking disinfo under news articles or big accounts is more useful.
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10. Remember why we're here. To help Ukraine and fund the Legion (or other causes). It's not about followers, who makes the best meme, or whatever.
If anyone has anything to share please do!
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Just got to Ukraine and feeling a lot of emotions right now. But, the most amazing thing was that on the radio in the taxi they read out Russia's daily casualties like it was the weather. Absolutely incredible
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Today is my 30th birthday 🥳 (I'm old!)
Its customary in the UK to buy a drink for someone on their bday, but we're online and I only want Ukrainian victory. So, if you've the cash spare, donate the equivalent price of a beer where you are to one of the groups below:
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NAFO 102.5 This will be explicitly on what not to do, and why and how to use memes. Why? Because you need to save your energy, time, and mental well-being by not getting into ridiculous arguments with trolls. This is a joint effort with
@SnarkusAurelius
so give him a follow!
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5. Take a break! No harm in having time off. There's no 10s of thousands of us. When we started this was not the case. Now it's rare for me to not find fellas already under nonsense posts.
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Just submitted my PhD thesis. Almost finished. Wish me luck!
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@MaxBlumenthal
Zelensky speaks russian. Almost everyone can speak russian. A lot of russian speakers died in Mariupol. In Donetsk and Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhye. You'd know this if you cared enough to understand Ukraine.
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4. Continue to be yourself. Post things you like, have fun, it boosts engagement and gives everyone a break. Also, follow different people, learn about other people and countries.
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Oh I thought of one extra thing. Be vigilant with your followers. The days of blindly following back any fella are behind us. Check their profiles before you follow back at least. Fake fellas are about.
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1. Take care of yourself. Ensure you have security measures on your account. Be careful what you share. No good to anyone if you're scammed, doxxed or banned.
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Right so, let's talk debunking russian nonsense. This thread will be long but I hope you stick with it. I will go through propaganda claims and debunk them and explain how best to do so. In following threads I'll explain how better to bonk and argue. Have to walk before you run.
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Austrian fellas, could you let yourself be known to me? I have a situation regarding a Ukrainian refugee and her son being bullied for being Ukrainian at his school by a kid who's parents are Serbian and could do with knowing what they can do
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Can someone explain why American far right are acting as if they've never seen or heard of an eclipse?
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This fella just graduated his PhD 😎👨🎓 thanks to
@Churcheebs
for the adorable graduation fella.
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Who authorised this public appearance of our bioLabs?
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Absolutely incredible
Wow. Zelenskyy wraps up his Meet the Press interview by saying "we are not ready to give our freedom to this f------ terrorist Putin."
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Ukraine, you do many things well but English breakfasts is not one of them. Cold beans, anaemic sausages of the wrong kind. Makes me sad 😭
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This is the level of vatnik wit? Impact font, and emojis?
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People seem to be supportive of this. I've pinned it on my profile so if you ever need to share it with someone, it's there.
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Translation:
~1920
-we are fighting for Ukraine, the reds are our common enemies
-we have ideological differences, we are against the state and we will deal with the red scum/traitors on our own
~2022
- Let's fucking go?
- Let's fucking go and kill everyone.
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Another addendum:
I said don't debate. But do debunk! If someone say a grayzone journalist is pronouncing nonsense, someone says "8 years of shelling Donbas", Elon says crap about Crimea, get the facts and debunk, and throw a meme too. That's actually good.
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What, Russia doesn't actually care about Africa? Shock
Wagner stealing Sudan's gold to fund Putin's invasion of Ukraine who knew
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Layers of NAFO lore and history.
Layer one: bonk, Shiba, fella
Layer two: what __ doing, the crew lived, you pronounced this nonsense
Layer three (you've been here a while): fonts collapsing, khachapuri secret recipe, literally no footage, sharkgate, bob the fella 1/2
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NAFO 101 Revisited
Since my first thread to help NAFO members find their feet, things have changed a lot. So, I have decided to revisit the 101 and spell out some major changes and general guidance. Take your time to read over this thread and let me know if you’ve any questions.
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Guess where I am for less than 24 hours (wrong answers only)
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@LPNH
Joining with the freedom loving countries of: Russia, north Korea, Iran, Eritrea I see
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Second, we should talk about why arguments aren't our primary weapon. We'll talk about arguments more in the next thread, but the short answer is this: debating someone implies their position is worth debating.
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Was walking in Uzhhorod this evening, and in the centre are some giant eggs for Easter. This one struck me particularly. If you can't quite make it out, we see the Ukrainian soldiers holding up life itself.
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☠️ Additional shots of destroyed Russian column in Kursk region.
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A common russian tactic is to provide so many explanations that no one knows what the truth really is. They're not serious about what they say, so you shouldn't be serious either.
NAFO works because it doesn’t try to. It annoys propagandists, and it works.
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This would be the equivalent of failing to take London and making Luton your capital.
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As a British millennial I hate unprompted phone calls, or calls in general. People say it's a generational thing but I'm curious, does this extend to other countries as much? Ukrainians seem to prefer phone calls a lot of the time, especially older people.
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In 1920 there were many sides in Ukraine. Famously the anarchists led by Makhno, the Ukrainian state, and also various hetmans. Makhno felt the UA state was too bourgeois to work with. There's some story that Petlura reached out to him to work together with even the whites. But
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For years, people would engage trolls in debates, giving them credibility and wasting time. When you do that, you are presenting their ideas as an equally valid difference of opinion.
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@SnarkusAurelius
has some solid expansions to this thread. See it as the "further reading" to NAFO 101 to understand why I said what I said
Good advice all around. If I may make a few addenda:
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My wife just tried to explain to her parents about me being in NAFO. She really did well all things considered 😅
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First, we should talk about why use memes to fight propaganda. Why? Because it works. Because it shows the absurdity of propaganda claims. Because humour, visuals, and general fun go a long way.
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IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!
Last year I asked people to donate the cost of a beer (or more) as if you were buying me a drink
I'm doing the same BUT in return, you can get featured in a video by
@Churcheebs
(clue for the vid below).
Donate to PayPal: jonathan
@ukr
.net
Mono below
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Bad news is I've likely got covid. Good news is my
@saintjavelin
shirt arrived today (very quick as well)
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When to bonk though? Good question. Best aim at high-profile accounts. Your russian diplomatic pages, western propagandists, your ‘just want peace’ journalists from grayzone etc. Bonking 6 follower accounts is a waste of time, and they have time to waste and will draw you in
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Fellas, I'm a bit on the poorly side, did a first COVID test in ages (negative) but have little energy. Send me some memes or cat pictures please while I drink soup and binge watch The Wire.
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The next thread will be on good and bad arguments. Does that contradict the main claim? No. Find out why next time.
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To sum up, find relevant memes, use them for the situation, target big accounts, DO NOT get drawn into big arguments, and do not treat these views with respect. Mockery is the essence of NAFO.
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Come on fellas time to article five that fascist nick Griffin
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@shiva_ukraine
Apart from 70 year old daily mail readers I don't think anyone in the UK cares. I respect that zelensky is dressed as a head of a country at war. It's entirely appropriate
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I know pride month is often a time of empty gestures
But I have an important comment
You don't have to understand being gay, queer, lesbian or trans
You don't have to even LIKE it
You should respect people's right to be so safely with no constraint.
If you don't, unfollow
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I regret to inform you that you are all British. You love baked beans, queueing, going on holiday and burning in the sun while drinking too much, talking about the weather, and moaning about everything you can.
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So, to bonk, use a meme, use images, and use humour. And report what you can, and block if they’re sending you mad.
It is best to build up different kinds of memes for different topics (best in your cloud storage)
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Mars pared back its operations in Russia last year after President Vladimir Putin launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, but it still operates there. Indeed, Bloomberg reported that its profit in Russia rose 58% in 2022 to 27 billion rubles ($294.2 million).
#BoycottMars
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@MarxMidwest
"voted Yanukovych for peace", Paul mannafort backed wannabe dictator, and there wasn't war until 2014!
I'll tell all this to the Donbas refugees who fled thanks to Russia.
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Some things in life are that, but when it comes to nonsensical political propaganda, aimed to defend an authoritarian regime invading sovereign countries, no, that's not the case.
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The other type of memes, or just images, can directly tackle an argument, or show something contradictory. This sort of reply can perhaps show russian Nazis, war crimes, statistics, or poke holes through arguments. This is also valuable to appeal to outside of your audience. I.e
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Now, anarchists are fighting and working against the russians alongside the army, which is a very different state of affairs.
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