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Maplestory launched a PV that has this frame in it. Korean guys got pissed because 🤏 and found that the animator is a feminist. The company has said they'll investigate and take 'appropriate action' (this probably means the artist will be fired).
누가 넥슨 아니랄까봐 메이플도 터지냐...
이장면 땜에 그렇다고 하네요 그 놈의 손가락 진짜 신경쓰는 놈 크기 잘 보인다 어우(우웩
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Korean Genshincel update: still pissed that Mihiyo *might be* employing a feminist (Furina's designer), they have deployed a tactical cringemobile above their headquarters telling them "don't ignore hate speech [feminism] and show a will to improve"
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Korean fans have discovered the Senshi sexyman polls. One of them realized that if you rotate one of the characters in Senshi's name (센시), you get the word sexy (섹시).
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If anyone’s wondering how Limbus Company is doing 2 months after an artist’s contract got terminated because she’s a feminist: the CEO is gonna press criminal charges against a guy because he’s telling them to apologize and treat their workers better.
[EN/JP below]
안녕하세요. PM유저협회입니다.
프로젝트 문社에서 법적 조치를 예정하는 내용증명 전문과 이에 대한 입장문을 공개합니다.
입장문은 내용증명이 온 다음날에 바로 게시하려 했지만, 2차 성명문의 답변 기한까지 기대해왔으며 배려했습니다. 더군다나 경기
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This cost 14 million won (~10.7k USD). Targeted harassment of feminists is a big problem in SK gaming, largely because almost every company immediately apologizes and fires their feminist workers when these idiots complain. Mihoyo hasn't acknowledged them yet. Kudos.
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If you're wondering what the hell their deal is, most of these clowns want Mihoyo to fire her and publicly apologize for hiring a feminist. The fact Genshin has ignored them for weeks is pissing them off because their harassment campaigns usually get results within 48 hours.
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The whole internet loves Limbus Company, a quirky gacha about the horrors of runaway capitalism!
*9 months later*
We regret to inform you that the CEO is suing fans, labor unions, and multiple labor union chairmen over their criticism of the company
Dear Supporters,
Hello, this is the PM User Association.
It has already been 98 days since the establishment of our Association.
The winter atmosphere is already in the air, but we are pleased to share with you some heartening news to warm your spirit.
On November 8th, we
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murder mystery but instead of being in a traditional book novel format it's just a ton of subtweets about the murder and you have to figure out what happened based on them
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Dungeon & Fighter has put out an announcement promising to 'correct assets that might be seen as hateful'.
These assets are...hands in natural resting poses. Because terminally online Korean men interpret anything resembling 🤏 as insulting their dick size
점입가경이다 진짜.
새로 올라온 공지 보니까 진짜로 한국 게임은 앞으로 쭉 편 손이나 주먹쥔 손만 쓸 모양이다.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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@rangerhitomi
yeahhhhhhhhh that's literally it. they think every instance of a pinching gesture is feminists sneaking in secret radfem propaganda calling their dicks small. yes it is exactly as delusional as it sounds.
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They're uh, now also melting down because the English-language Genshin Tavern server's icon contains 🤏. This is because they think every instance of 🤏 in Korean media is because feminists are secretly sneaking the gesture in to insult their dick sizes.
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Korean limbus fans are calling for a boycott of opening the game. Daily active users are an important sign of user retention, and if that stays stable, project moon might decide the safest option is to wait out the backlash instead of apologizing.
도저히 장르를 못 떠나겠어도 최소한 지금은 게임에 접속하지 말아주세요... 유의미한 결과가 나오지 않은 상태에서 게임을 정상적으로 돌아가게 놔두는 것은 자신의 권리를 행하는 것이 아니라 평생 동안의 권리를 내려놔 버리는 거예요
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Here's excerpts from a front-page article in a major Korean newspaper about how the Korean games industry is a hellzone for women who want to work there:
The Hankyoreh newspaper ran an excellent front-page article yesterday about the prevalence of anti-feminism in the Korean gaming industry. Here's most of the article in English. MASSIVE credit to
@citrussalt
for making sure everything was accurate!
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아, 쿠키런의 영어판 계정에서 프라이드 먼스를 기념하는 게시물을 올린 이유는 SNS 영어판을 관리하는 직원들 중 상당수가 성소수자이기 때문입니다. 그 게시물을 승인받기 위해 한국 경영진과 엄청나게 싸웠습니다.
important clarification: the US social team is primarily made up of queer people and they first made a pride post on the @/CRKingdomEN account in 2022. the US social team got in trouble with KR HQ for the post because they were afraid of backlash from the KR/asian community.
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@TetrisChemist
Yeah. Western game companies ignore Gamergaters nowadays, while Korean game companies do anything they can to maintain Korean gamebro favor, up to and including terminating contracts of feminist artists.
This has been ongoing since 2016, with a couple dozen incidents in Korea.
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outis: why did you enter me in a surfing competition
don: thou bragged quite admirably of how thine skill at riding waves of sapphire surpassed all others in thine cavalry!
outis, through gritted teeth: i said. that i was best in my squadron. at waterboarding.
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Limbus got on primetime news again in light of a recent incident where a male customer violently assaulted a shop clerk with short hair because he thought she was a feminist. Limbus was then brought up as an example of misogynistic backlash to feminism.
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Other 'controversial' posts include pro-LGBTQ posts, posts critical of sexual harassment in politics, and calls to re-elect Park Ji-hyun, a politician whose journalism in 2019 uncovered the Nth room (a massive sextortion ring with over a hundred victims, many of them minors).
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You may wonder what 'man-hating' posts they took issue with! This dossier compiled by them includes things like the extremely controversial statement of.....opposing radioactive wastewater release into the ocean. You can Google Lens for translations.
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visual novel: talks about how gender and socially constructed roles are a prison every other conversation
gamers: the translation is injecting its feminist agenda into my beautiful game from the politically untouched lands of nippon
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Here's an article in English from 2021 about why these guys consistently lose their mind over 🤏 if you want context on that.
And yeah, getting pissed at a *global* server for having that gesture in their icon is exactly as stupid as it sounds.
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미국 대학이 극도로 페미니즘적이라는 말은 맞습니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
1972년에 통과된 'Title IX'라는 법이 있습니다. 이 법에 따라 연방 기금을 받는 모든 대학은 성폭력 및 성희롱으로부터 학생들을 보호해야 합니다. 그 결과 많은 대학이 성폭력을 예방하기 위해 매우 적극적으로 나서고 있습니다.
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@companiondish
Yeah, iirc this has been a thing for a while (and IMO needs a lot more attention because arguing "legally, anybody on the internet can do whatever they want with ai stuff if you use it for your brand and you can't do shit about it" is a very strong argument to hire human artists)
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@ColonelHrgh
Combination of factors:
-South Korean game companies always roll over to this shit and consequences are rare
-The websites SK men use most are anonymous imageboards with a 4chan-esque culture. This turns into a hotbed of misogynistic radicalization similar to 4chan/gamergate.
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Seems this crowd of extremely well-adjusted young men combed through every PV the studio did for anything that could remotely resemble the pinched fingers gesture and uploaded images and in-betweens like this as "proof" that the studio is misandrist.
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Turns out that Mihoyo isn't *entirely* ignoring these guys, because they're very tightly moderating the Genshin concert chat for both misogyny and complaints that Mihoyo is ignoring said misogynists.
the korean genshincels tried to spam the genshin concert broadcast with comments only to watch them get deleted in real time 🤧 they're claiming that all they want to do is to communicate with the company and are mad it's not working
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@Solace_53
I don't think employees should be disciplined for being in favor of human rights.
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Looks like their company's response was to nuke all videos that the studio employing the animator made for their games
Usually when this happens, contracts (ie, money) for the artist/studio dry up because companies don't wanna piss off the turbomisogynists
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KGCS (former PMUA) issued a statement condemning the Korean Arknights server for removing a feminist's artwork. There's a google doc link in the replies you can use to copy/paste into MTL.
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>talk about how project moon overworked you and treated you like shit to the point of attempting suicide
>they sue you a year later out of the blue over copyright
what the fuck
Dear supporters, this is the Korean Game Consumer Society (KGCS).
Today marks one year since Project Moon terminated an employee's contract due to their alignment with misogynistic ideological policing. However, Project Moon has not reflected on their wrongful actions; instead,
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@deyztro
Terminally online Korean men go ballistic when they see a pinching gesture regardless of context, because there was a forum in 2016 full of feminists who were assholes who used the pinching gesture as their symbol. This article gives a good summary.
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@companiondish
-this means even if there is fairly significant human involvement/postprocessing (ie adding paneling, dialogue) it will be denied copyright.
-if you're curious about the human created clause, the monkey selfie case is similar and really interesting!
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project moon also sent a cease and desist to the IT union vice chairman but since they didn't know his address they had to send it via twitter DM and the vice chairman didn't realize he got it until now, i'm howling with laughter
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아니 진짴ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 앜ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아하하하하 살다살다 이제 내용증명을 DM으로? 물론 우편으로는 안왔습니다. 아니 제가 진자 정보 다 까여 있는 준 공인 취급인데 이걸 DM으로요? 와 진짜 너무 쫄리고 법정에서 제가 필패할 것 같네요. 와...
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'카인의 표'는 성경에 나오는 개념입니다. 하지만 림버스에서 그 표식을 나타내는 데 사용되는 특정 상징은 성경에서 유래한 것이 아닙니다. 미국의 유명 판타지 드라마 'Supernatural'에서 모방한 것입니다.
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The Hankyoreh newspaper ran an excellent front-page article yesterday about the prevalence of anti-feminism in the Korean gaming industry. Here's most of the article in English. MASSIVE credit to
@citrussalt
for making sure everything was accurate!
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Truck protests have begun outside Project Moon's headquarters. This one reads "YOU SERVE COOKIES TO MALICIOUS USERS WHO BARGE INTO YOUR HEADQUARTERS AND SERVE LAWSUITS TO CUSTOMERS WHO WANT EXPLANATIONS AND A ROUNDTABLE".
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@punished_cait
The more I learn about Teslas the less I trust the safety culture in ANY musk headed project. What the fuck. I literally tilt a lever on my wheel and my wipers work. This is.....extremely dangerous
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if you're a journalist (or know one!) and this piques your interest, the protestor getting sued is
@IatemyCupc4k3
who is fluent in English and would be *ecstatic* to set up an interview with you. because, uh, the legal threat is very much the tip of the labor issues iceberg here.
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for anybody just now tuning in and going 'is feminist code for TERF': no. i've talked with korean speakers to get a translation of what she said, and it's all bog-standard feminism. the south korean gaming industry and a lot of SK male gamers are just super misogynistic
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['questions about the genshin misogyny blimp's adherence to korean finance laws' has entered the chat]
citrussalt's thread below has more details on that.
it looks like whoever raised the money for the genshincel blimp dodged a law re: receiving over $10k in donations by dividing the total of $16k they received across several accounts. in addition, the blimp was supposed to fly for at least 4 hours or so, but only flew for 1 🤔
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Clarification-
'The company' in tweet 1 was Nexon/Maplestory. Normally when this stuff happens in Korea, it happens to workers directly contracted by the company, which was my initial assumption; the feminist works for the animation studio that had a contract for PVs with Nexon.
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good morning to everybody but especially to satoko's english VA
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Statement from the animation studio. Instead of recognizing that this whole situation is indefensibly stupid, they're punishing the employee by excluding her from future editing and PV work.
(Unfortunately, this is normal in the Korean games industry.)
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"I think talking about it now would be okay.
This art was drawn with the lingering feelings, longing, and sadness in me after the shock of the Leviathan series being discontinued caused me to attempt suicide.
I won't bring it up anymore."
이쯤되니 말해도 될것 같네요.
리바이어던 연재 중단 후 충격으로 자살기도까지 간 후 작품에 남은 미련과 그리움, 슬픔으로 그린 게 이 만화입니다.
이제 더 이상은 언급 안 할게요.
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미국에서 동일 임금과 성희롱에 초점을 맞춘 노동 조사가 2021년에 미국의 한 대형 게임 회사(Blizzard)에서 진행되었고, 그 회사는 엄청난 타격을 입었습니다. 그 결과 블리자드는 5,300만 달러를 지불했습니다.
서울 근로감독관들도 같은 행운을 누리길 바랍니다!
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The animation studio in question is Studio Ppuri, who haven't said anything about it yet.
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PM leaked a draft agreement with the youth union where they agree that Vellmori wasn't unfairly dismissed. However, the union has now stated the agreement fell through because PM refused to agree to protect their employees from harassment in the future.
경기청년유니온은 사이버불링 피해 당사자의 퇴사이후 당사자의 의사를 존중하여 추가적인 대응을 자제해왔습니다. 또한 프로젝트문이 법이 부여하는 직원에 대한 보호의무를 다하기 위한 공식적인 약속할 것을 요구하며 일주일에 걸쳐 협의를 진행한 바 있습니다. 그러나 프로젝트문은 이에 대한
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Second statement from the PMUA. It calls out Kim Jihoon for not acknowledging their first statement and reiterates their demands (global TL of 6/25 notice/clarification of employment/roundtable meeting).
Deadline to respond 9/15, they'll start trucks 9/13
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For anybody wondering why the PMUA is suspicious of the claim that Vellmori "voluntarily" resigned, it's because that's the only legal way PM can be rid of her without violating labor law. Korean law requires a valid reason to fire an employee, deleted tweets aren't valid reasons
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anyway uhhhh yeah at this point if you give project moon/limbus company money, including buying limbus pass, it's a fair bet to say that it's gonna go directly into suing labor unions
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@ChrisVolkernick
@Velokx
there's a section in US law that allows websites to not be sued for what their users post online. what's happening is that they're trying to remove that if sites doesn't follow their 'best measures', which will be written by barr (who HATES encryption).
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With a heavy heart, I must admit that Mihoyo is based as fuck. They just posted a warning against posting personal info, defamation, spreading rumors, inciting gender-based conflicts, etc.
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ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 림버스 컴퍼니는 Unity로 코딩되지 않았나요?
유니티도 페미 메갈에게 점령되어 메갈의 비밀표식을 숨겨놓았으니 하루 빨리 인셀들은 유니티 기반 게임을 보이콧하시기 바랍니다
겠냐고 피해망상 새끼들아 병원가라🤗
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the idiots who barged into project moon's headquarters got mentioned on the 8 o' clock news during a segment about the gaming industry's failure to protect its employees lol
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rika from pokemon is at the top of the yumejoshi top 100 for the second year running. godspeed, i hope to see her at the top next year too
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sounds like the terminally online korean chauvinist mob is going after furina from genshin's character designer now because she's a feminist (though mihoyo seems to be mostly ignoring it---they haven't taken down the video studio ppuri did for them, either)
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people on here say they want more messy gay representation and yet when I drop a chandelier onto a group of people in order to draw my gf into an endless time loop to break her mind they say I'm ""problematic"" or should """go to jail"""". this website is full of hypocrites.
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당연히 성폭력 예방은 교육에서 시작됩니다. 대학에서는 학생들에게 성폭행, 음주 등에 대한 온라인 교육을 의무적으로 이수하도록 하는 것이 일반적입니다.
저는 몇 년 전에 졸업했지만 그 교육을 이수해야 했던 기억이 납니다. 기숙사에는 건강한 관계 맺기 등에 관한 안내문이 자주 붙어 있었습니다
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learned today that the mark of cain in limbus is from supernatural i can't fucking breathe. sinclair goes to superhell after admitting he's gay
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They praise Hypergryph's commitment to gender equality and note that the artist's comments are in line with the developer's official position.
They condemn Yostar Korea's removal of the art, and demand they reinstate the art, apologize, and take steps to stop this happening again
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worth noting that the reason these project moon lawsuits are happening is because monggeu and mimi -- two artists who worked with project moon on the past -- have publicly spoken out against the company due to the abuse and overwork of its employees.
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There's a new interview with r07 about that loopers story he's writing and I'm laughing at how all the pictures of him look like he's modeling something. This image is taken straight from an ad and you can't convince me otherwise
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@AO3_Status
W......hat the fuck they're sending csam of actual kids to your volunteers? I hope they're able to catch whoever it is, that's mega fucked up and there's absolutely no excuse for it.
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In other words, if they're faced with two groups, one that breaks into HQ and review bombs the game, and another that raises a storm on twitter but *keeps playing the game* regardless of controversy, they're going to listen to the first one every time.
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They note that Arknights' setting emphasizes respect for the human rights of all people. Hypergryph, the Chinese developer, has previously given gender sensitivity training and fired an employee after the employee made misogynistic posts on one of the game's official accounts.
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Worth noting re: Project Moon discourse is that many Koreans on twitter, who have the full cultural+legal context of what happened and don't have a language barrier, generally have a negative view of PM.
Even recently, you'll find tweets like this bashing PM getting 15K+ RTs.
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@margadbayar2
Nothing's wrong with feminism! But a lot of young South Korean men are very, very radicalized against it.
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remember to practice self care by repeating the following to yourself
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@Nucleartrice
i think the context that really makes this even wilder is that he made this announcement at 2 am in korea
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어제 쿠키런 보이콧을 촉구하는 영문 게시물이 많이 올라온 이유입니다.
피드백 설문조사에서는 스타벅스 기프트 카드를 경품으로 제공했습니다. 스타벅스는 '팔레스타인과의 연대'를 트위터에 올렸다는 이유로 노동조합을 고소해 미국에서 불매운동의 대상이 되고 있습니다.
Hi, everyone!
Following your feedback, we have replaced the Player Feedback Event rewards with Google Play Gift Cards!
Since we're in beta, we'd like to gather as much feedback as possible and this reward is a way to encourage more players to share their thoughts about the game!
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m'kay there's some Stuff going on but it seems there's pushback on the Korean side regarding the apology because the statement of "we don't support specific ideologies" in Korean uses a specific dogwhistle that means and is interpreted as "we don't support feminism"
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The BBC covered the assault of the clerk and an elderly male customer who tried to defend her, if you want more details on that.
Here's a translation of the part where it discusses Limbus. A Korean transcript is here:
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All of the criminal charges Project Moon filed last year against various union/labor activists have been dismissed.
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Eternal Return has issued a statement about this incident in English that........equates feminism with hate speech.
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In case you've been arguing with weirdoes in project moon threads or the steam forums like me, here's some pics showing dcinsider users (where the mob first started) have been coordinating to smear and distort the illustrator's words and affiliations.
번역기랑 쪼달리는영어실력 합쳐서 번역해봤음. 입장문은 번역기돌리려면 아까운 내시간 한냄들에게 써야될것같아서 안할라고
배포해주시면 ㄱㅅ함.
난 누구보다 그남들이 얼마나찌질맨들인지 전세계적으로알려졌으면함
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if i was a gacha game and users from a certain subforum harassed one of my most high-profile employees out of the company, i would simply Not add that subforum's in-jokes in my game's anniversary update
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Project Moon, developer of Limbus Company and Lobotomy Corporation, has pressed charges against Hwanmin Kim, chairman of the Korean IT Union, as well as Jongchan Lee, chairman of the Gyeonggi Youth Union, as well as the Gyeonggi Youth Union itself.
중대발표... 가 뭐냐면요.
프로젝트문이 드디어 저를 고소했습니다. 단체고소고, 제가 고소장을 받아보고 공개하려고 했는데 하필 고소 접수를 부천에 하는 바람에 저는 마포서로 이관되는 중이라 받는 데 하세월 걸릴 것 같네요.
다른 분들이요? 따로들 공지하실 겁니다. 법적 대응요? 준비해놨죠. ㅎ
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The Project Moon User Association is working with the Youth Union and a well-known senator to petition the government for a full-scale labor audit of the Korean gaming industry. If the petition gets 10k signatures, it’ll be sent to the National Assembly.
[모집안내] 사이버불링, 성차별, 사상검증 철폐를 위한 게임업계 근로감독 청원인 모집
청년유니온은 지난 9월부터 <게임업계 사이버불링 실태조사>를 실시하며 게임업계 내에 만연한 ‘악성 유저에 의한 사이버불링', ‘직장 내 성차별', ‘사상검증' 등 게임업계 종사자들에 대한 노동권 침해 실태를
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The Project Moon User Association is still collecting responses for its survey on user opinion regarding the Vellmori incident (linked below). In the meantime, here are the interim results. Results will be sent to Project Moon.
안녕하세요. PM유저협회입니다.
9월 14일 7시 26분 경 실시한 “프로젝트 문 소비자 여론조사”의 중간 결과를 공개합니다. 해당 여론조사는 3개 언어(한국어, 일본어, 영어)로 번역 되었으며 9월 15일 PM 12시 35분 기준 1,824명이 참여해 주셨습니다.
여론조사는 계속 진행 중이니 많은 참여
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Bravern's character designer is a Korean feminist. Since he works in Japan, the usual crowd can't touch him. So they're huffing copium going 'he's a contractor who can't actually exert influence on the show' and deleting their tantrum about him on Namuwiki
용기퍽발 뱅브레이브번 사관들의 태도 변천사
1)남페미가 묻었다고 콧김씩씩
2)잠깐 그 남페미는 하청따리일 뿐이다!(뿌리는 하청 아니었냐...?)
3)논란탭을 지우고 기타 항목에 한줄 남김
4)그것마저 지워버림←new
지랄해도 씨알도 안 먹히는 걸 아니까 뜬금 인기 좋으니 페미 무효행 ㅋㅋ
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PMUA statement. They want PM to acknowledge DCinside harassed their employees, clear Vellmori's name and say she wasn't at fault, + hold a roundtable.
They're sending PM copies of threats made on DC and ask to take the same legal action made against PMUA.
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hey uh. if somebody makes a tweet saying "this game company treated one of their artists so badly that she attempted suicide as a result. please don't support them." please. don't reply to it like this.
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@AniTrendz
not a series i'm comfortable hyping given the dude's crimes against actual children.
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BTW if any English PM artists want to make it clear they don't want people reposting their stuff on DC, here are sample phrases:
타커뮤니티로의 허락없는 재업로드를 금지합니다 don't repost my art without permission
DC에 재업로드하는 것을 금지합니다 don't repost my art to dcinside
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작년에 한 남성이 미국 고위 정치인의 남편을 망치로 난폭하게 공격한 사건이 발생했습니다. 재판 과정에서 그가 게이머게이트 운동(2014년 여성 혐오 괴롭힘 캠페인)을 통해 급진화된 것으로 밝혀졌습니다.
국가를 불문하고 온라인 여성 혐오는 현실 세계의 폭력으로 이어지는 관문입니다...
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are.......they really using vellmori's art as the centerpiece of one of their TGS trailers????? what the fuck
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@IndigoOcean
@TRF_Stories
@salesforce
"You use electricity for necessities, therefore you have no room to complain about the blockchain, which has almost zero practical use, wasting more energy than a small country" is not a strong argument.
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made a guide to buying tickets for the umineko stage show videos if you live overseas! click the link below and follow the directions on the images. i tried it myself up to the credit card payment part, and it seemed to work.
#うみステ
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Project moon user association just posted its schedule. Machine translation:
8/29-send statement
8/30-post banners
9/2-fundraising begins
9/3-hashtag campaign
9/13-truck protests start
9/15-public petition (?)
9/20-application for class action lawsuit
안녕하십니까, PM유저협회입니다. 저희가 이후 진행할 활동들에 대해서 대략적인 로드맵을 공개합니다. 이 밖에도 관계자님들의 신변 보호를 위하여 공개할 수 없는 활동이 있는 점 너른 양해 바랍니다.
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He's involved in "controversy" because he repeatedly doubled down on attacking longtime fans protesting his handling of the situation, while never uttering a single word condemning the harassment mob that attacked his CG artist.
I'm disappointed in you.
When your coworker/friend of 3 years make a mistake and cause a "controversy", you wouldn't just pack your bags and never talk to them again, would you?
The bond shared between co-creators are strong and lasts forever.
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