When reading warrior cats for the first time, my father fell out of a tree and became paralyzed from the waist down. Seeing a warrior cat suffering from a similar ailment as my dad and living happily brought a much needed peace to me. So fuck off with "Briarlight lived too long."
WARRIOR CAT FANS!! RT AND SHARE THIS AROUND!
I have made (or well.. am making because it's nowhere near finished) a Warrior Cat Design Masterlist!
The goal is to feature every Warrior Cat Design page, so check it out if you have a chance!
"Animated MAProjects should have reasonable deadlines based on the host's expectations" and "a lot of animators take on too many projects at once and thus 90% of the deadline time is spent doing other projects" are statements that can both coexist; we need to solve both problems
Warrior Cats is children's literature for many reasons, but one reason is for characters like Briarlight. This isn't dark fiction: the books are meant to have a happy ending; a message to the kids reading. Being able to be happy after experiencing traumatic injuries is crucial.
@bellirai
@baglebasil
I've been here since 2013 and there are quite literally too many projects to do this change to.
The quickest solution is just to extend the acronym, like "MAProject." Like "hey, I'm a MAProject host/here's my MAProject part!"
Honestly I don't care if you're a child if you're a kid arguing with people about WC drama and using "women ☕️" as a genuine reply I'm gonna tell the hosts of the projects you're in what you said 😭especially the ones who are WOMEN!!
@Candyteef
It's really hard for average fans to get invested in projects now and it really sucks :(. I feel like the fandom keeps putting specific creators on pedestals, only really care about their stuff, then things crumble when the creator is (shocker) not the best person
Can we start holding larger creators accountable for sending their followers after smaller creators for petty reasons? Personal disputes, tracing, etc.
I've seen this happen with creators and nobody calls it out until the creator gets called out for worse behavior.
Discussion time!
What do we think would help "bring back" the MAProject Community/its viewers? What ideas should be hosted, thoughts to consider when hosting, etc.
Keep in mind that the community is still vast: your suggestion may be implemented by smaller hosts as we speak!
"i hate the warriors fandom"
*Gets into fights about the characters*
*Have personal beef with people for their character interpretations*
*trigger finger anytime there is drama revolving a project based in the series*
"Ugh the fandom is so annoying 🙄🙄 can't wait to leave"
Guys please wait at least 72 hours before freaking out about your videos being blocked.
These disputes have happened before and they will continue to happen. Your videos should still be on your channel, /you/ can still watch them: they just won't show up to the public.
@nthinpurrsonal
I'd also like to add that this isn't the first time this content creator has done this. Earlier this year they tweeted about a young wc map host who made a map with HH Poison song. Not only did he not talk to the kid about the concerns, he straight up spread misinformation.
@Suslent
I think that's a natural reaction; sorry to hear that. My dad has had so many kidney infections and UTIs from his condition: it's not funny ever.
Idk what it is about people wanting weird ass realism in these books. Read your weird cat suffering fantasies somewhere else yknow
@RamKat_
Especially for Briarlight: so much of her character was based on a person with a similar disability. There was a thought to kill Briarlight, and Vicky chose not to /because/ of what she'd mean to kids with disabilities. It's been clear for years "realism" isn't the point here
For the teenagers who are waiting to get out of their abusive/dysfunctional household, wondering if it gets better:
It will ❤️. One day you will walk into your new room and notice how much calmer you are, and you can start the inner healing one step at a time
been giddy about it and can finally say it: I set a date for my wedding!!! very excited <3 soon I will be a Married Person...
...a married person still making warrior cat maprojects....
😳
This is the last thing that I will say about this situation 🧵
This isn't just about lycancthropy's callout over someone tracing and being "inspired" by their OCs. This is about lycanthrophy's persistent pattern of behavior that has not changed.
Some of y'all have got to understand that even if you only have a couple followers, your tweets are public 😭
Everyone keeps getting suspended for making unalive jokes and it seems obvious it's just some twitter warrior reporting the tweets
has artfight been just, kinda bad this year for anyone else? So far I've had three people blatantly ignore my permissions, say a really gross comment about my catified sona (aka ME), and got spam commented hate... plus a pretty nasty DM.
MAP PROJECT ANIMATORS!! ARTISTS!!
Post the MOST loved MAProject that YOU participated in. Also, tell us why you love it so much!
If you can, please try to watch some of the other ones people link: let's get some love going for these animators!
Now is a good time more than ever to support this project! Especially for the older projects affected ^^.
I will say for anyone participating, I am an archivist, so I do already have my videos downloaded and safe and secure... focus on the other projects! /gen
I think ultimately it's not the lack of animators, but lack of viewership which has been causing some of the overall decline.
In terms of projects, I think it'd be a huge boost to get super old projects completed: ones people grew up on. (Ex. My Eyes being rehosted)
Thoughts of the day: we need to normalize collabs more in the MAProject community.
Not even just collaborating on parts: what about heading projects where people pitch on different parts of the work, and do as much as they want to contribute to the project?
Been caring for a stray cat that showed up on our porch a couple of months ago pretty badly injured. Happy to say Darkstripe "Fred" is now happily healed and can provide a reference or two for Warrior Cat artists when it comes to cat scars! Silly lad
@_cheryxshug
Hey to you and
@ilovescourge
. We just had someone young in the fandom very recently publicly say that they had attempted suicide. We lost incredible animators to suicide years prior. This is a really tasteless joke, especially for someone with 1k+ followers to make /Gen
Fyi, probably gonna try to only follow ppl 18 or older. I love to support younger/beginner artists and I wanna be active and following you to support ya, but I've been seeing some minors tweeting decently suggestive things n I just don't feel like that's something I need to see
Just posted my Beginner-Welcome, anything PMV MAProject! Please rt and show it some love to promote some diversity in the MAProject community: the song is in Arabic, sung by a Palestinian artist!
We're going back in time to stop the Tiktok users from finding Artfight.
That's right. We're going back in time to stop the Tiktok users from finding Artfight.
There's nothing wrong with having a couple of projects to do at once, and naturally, some projects will come before others, life gets in the way, etc,
But we have to stop letting people who are clearly overworking themselves into our projects bc they won't stop themselves
(dark/vent ish/suicide tw)
Only in Fawn lore would I have to end a call by saying "I'm sorry, I'm being informed someone I knew just murdered two people and himself. I'll call you back"
(I have seen and experienced horrors)
Since I'm getting more followers...
For you war catters, you may know me as SaturnSkyez! I rebranded to fawnlingstars in order to be able to post more personal content. My OC stuff and MAProjects will stay under my SaturnSkyez user ^^.
@greyscription
The entire dynamic Darwin + another user have with a 15 year old at the ages of 18/19 is disturbing. At that age you absolutely know better; at least know better to not let your 15 year old friend make that stuff publicly.
@_Bristlefrost
I think people see this as an issue of "who can moderate it properly" instead of the actual issue: this fandom is insane and will have super bad takes and we just really do not need a place for people to give wctwt the latest drama to complain about. It will never go well /nm
CONSIDER:
Warrior Cats x Shrek 2 Crossover.
Shrek is Brambleclaw, Fiona is Squirrelflight, Fiona's parents are Firestar n Sandstorm.
Ashfur is Prince Charming...
and Fairy Godmother is Spottedleaf
The plot of Shrek 2 fit to Warrior Cat plot points (imposter Bramblestar)
@BuzzPrincess1
Please listen to others and abandon this account. There is a reason people do not think you can change, and it's because of the way you've continued to publicly conduct yourself. You cannot handle your current platform and need to privately focus on learning respect and consent
oomfs... share YOUR black kitties..
your black kitties nobody elses.. must be yours...
give me their name!! I wanna do a cute little study where I draw different black kitties and make em unique
@Hivecicle
100% okay to retweet! The accident happened in 2013, so it's more of a memory rather than a current if that makes sense? He's still alive n all, but I've known him longer with his disability, so it's just the norm ^^
@bellirai
"viewer's gut instinct is that something is viscerally wrong" is just incorrect. I have not seen a single person misunderstand the "MAP" acronym unless they're just out to find problems with whoever they're attacking. Anyone else learns, understands, and moves on.
@eggnoggins
this is just not true LMAO. All of took was one person properly explaining the term 'mspec lesbian' for Marsh to understand.
Instead of blasting this on Twitter, I highly recommend having a more cohesive conversation on a platform he actually has to defend himself.
@_cheryxshug
@ilovescourge
Adding the admittance that it's a joke feels like you're making light of people who react this way to this news, or people who struggle. We really need to think about what we're doing before tweeting.
While the U.S WC community is grieving the current blockage of many projects, I am happy to say that not only is Catch Fire /not/ a part of the SESAC stuff going on but will premiere on Wednesday! Come watch this MAProject 8 years in the making ♥️
Obviously, this is nowhere near every single warrior cat design page. I am doing the best I can through my search. If you see that I'm missing one (or two, or ten) pages that you personally know about, link them here!! I'll add them when I have time. I work on this in spurts lol
@BuzzPrincess1
All I have seen from you are popular tweets that are extremely aggressive and border on harassment when it's not legitimate harassment. You acknowledge that you hurt people: the first step is to leave and privately get better. None of this is healthy at all
@AIexWander
I have seen over 70+ tweets on my recommended with you vagueing this person.
You have not stopped talking about them since they blocked you.
You just leaked their private.
You seem incredibly manic rn. My advice? Stop asking your teenage friends for advice. Get off twt. Breathe.
@_mitsukiie
This isn't even an apology. An apology is an acknowledgment of what you've done. Anyone with an audience knows when you fuck up you have to tell your audience what you did. Sounds like he just wants to post again without getting 1000 comments asking him to "address" everything :/
muting this because honestly I just threw this thought out into the world before heading to a family reunion. Glad it resonates with people. As always, please look out for the little guys: without them, there would be no "big guys", and we were all young blossoming artists once!
@camoucrimson
Just to help in case this happens to a minor again (bc god forbid anyone in the fandom act normal).
Nobody from your school is gonna go on your strawpage like this. Nobody who is an actual adult figure who has power will even know what tf a strawpage is atp.
Actually work to protect the little guy. Stop white knighting your favorite creator. Don't harass a kid for taking inspiration from something you made.
@bellirai
If you see "Complete OC MAP" with a cutesy or serious art thumbnail and somehow thing that has any relation to the other terminology, that's a lack of using context clues. Nobody I've met IRL ever bats an eye at my usage, even non-artists. "MAProject" works fine.
is the warrior cats community gonna address these horror/warrior cat artists refusing to use trigger warnings and introducing it to a majority minor-filled audience? This is getting disturbing.
But the thing is, you /have/ to learn. You /have/ to learn how to maintain that following or leave it all together.
This is not the first time Lycan has vagued someone. In some cases, Lycan has vagued minors and sent hate their way (ex. Poison MAProject)
Ermm the tweet about my dad popped off 😳
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without getting too much into the weeds: I am grateful he lived from his accident and will always advocate for him on account of his disability
But he was an abusive piece of shit for 18 years of my life don't feel bad for him lol
@AIexWander
I promise you are doing nothing for yourself right now other than fuel a manic episode. I barely know anything about this situation but I know you have consistently took it too far. This is childish at minimum, mental at its worst. Seek actual help, and leave this to a private.
Back to regularly scheduled content ya'll, my b!
Apologies, but I felt as though 18/19 year olds being "in" on a 15 year old making a joke about suicide publicly was important to address.
People want accountability. People want Lycan to grow as a person and quit hiding behind a block button. People want Lycancthrophy to actually learn how to maintain their following in a healthy manner. People want apologies and proof of growth. That's all.
I don't think anyone thinks Lycancthrophy is some evil boogeyman: he is just like many creators that we come across in the warrior cat fandom: decently sized creators who do not know how to properly connect with their audience. I was guilty of it, so are many others.
also ya'll if you go and find this commenter out in the wild like.. please do not harass them. They're a kid saying fucked up things but you're not gonna do anything if you just shit on them: you're gonna make them fall even deeper in whatever incel rabbit hole they're going in
Deleted my tweet about the animation "raffle" because I realized I used trigger words that bots loved, and I didn't articulate my point well.
My point is that I want to just have a fun little giveaway contest like concept but still make some money. May giveaway just a discount-
@vinxtry
It's also a completely normal response to grief. She wasn't wrong: in a world where afterlife is confirmed, it is an entirely different experience to mourn a child who you will never see again: not even in the afterlife
Since it is blocked on Youtube in America right now, and this is the only video that fits Twitter's video upload width,
...Something in The Way Breezepelt spoof ya'll
Y'all.... Self insert maproject coming in October...
It's where you insert yourself into a fandom and go silly go stupid...
...this ones theme is that your ass gets stuck in the middle of an antagonists plot n u gotta do something!! Even if it's cry
@TeleKitnetic
you literally told them that you were going to do it? If they didn't want a google doc so bad then maybe they should have actually listened. Plus they said they WANTED to hear the community's opinion? They got it: not the community's fault that they don't like it
@JustAGrook
Yeah, I def agree with the "unique" part and bringing up multimedia MAPs sounds super cool! I see a lot of people making those paper puppets on my timeline, and I immediately just now thought about how cool that'd be as a project, and it'd cater to people who don't do digital art
@_mitsukiie
Yeah as .. a MAProject host that genuinely defeats the purpose of the project and it's not fair to other participants? Like they don't get paid to be rushed (and they probably are)
Guys please wait at least 72 hours before freaking out about your videos being blocked.
These disputes have happened before and they will continue to happen. Your videos should still be on your channel, /you/ can still watch them: they just won't show up to the public.
@OFUKITTY
They have put minors on this list before, while others have 0 hyperlinked evidence. One person (I don't remember who) literally just had 'evidence' of a tweet where someone said they 'remembered x user' defending someone. There are 0 standards for this blacklist.
Discussion (aka be nice):
What do you think of anything/multifandom MAProjects being "redone" by the same host? Like a 2.0. Same song, same deadline, but with a different palette/theme as the one before.
Different participants would join in too; not just the same ones
@ShowtneCockatoo
@Suslent
Just wanted to say: Tune you are 100% right on the money here. It's important to understand too that adult members of the fandom are 100% buying more of the merch than the kids, whose parents are def not spending $300 to get them all this warrior cat stuff.
I'm really glad this discussion is bringing out conversations around beginners and how difficult it is for them to get a spotlight in the community.
I've been saying this for years and when I tell you many hosts/artists showed their ass when I suggested more b-f maps....
Please watch and support Antenne, an anything PMV MAProject using a song by an LGBTQ+ Palestinian artist!
[Link in below tweet to avoid suppression]
[Thumbnail artwork by Green Tea (hotsaladwater) on Youtube]
@nthinpurrsonal
There's this mentality that just because something is "public" that gives you the right to critique it, which isn't wrong. But don't get shocked when hate is sent the person's way
(and no, the name was not properly censored. I easily found the video)
@greyscription
Like I'm sorry I'm not letting adults (yes, not 'grown ass adults' but old enough to know better) get away with allowing it to get this far. That shit is damaging to a kid.
@nthinpurrsonal
The project came out days after the song's release, which was /not/ when the show came out. The project was promptly canceled after the host watched the show.
I'm mentioning this because this tweet during the situation IMO shows a constant pattern that hasn't been resolved.
@RamKat_
As an old head, I gotta agree with you to an extent, and then disagree to an extent.
It absolutely should not be the norm, but so long as there are guidelines and the map is low stakes, silly 1-2 week maps can be incredibly fun, especially for anything/multi fandom projects.
@secretsofsenshi
ironically enough this tweet was genuinely meant to be about multiple creators (specifically thought of moth and how the tracing callouts only got talked about with the other problematic stuff) but I def think it applies to this current situation to a T.
Temporary new ref for Saturn! I'm lowkey considering also making him an anthro ref, just because I can really envision this design working SUPER well as a fursuit
Update: we named the orange kitty Pumpkin. His mama we're calling Cream Cheese. Cream Cheese seemingly is blind in one eye: cannot get close enough to her to see if it's a cataract or a wound. Thinking there's more kitties but Pumpkin is vocal n demanding
@Nakkipng
😳😳that's me!
I love hosting my beginner-friendly MAPs so much: they're all so full of so much talent and that's actually how I've met so many of my friends and mutuals! I can name about 30 people who have become frequent participants in my MAPs just from one B-F project
@houseroam
I've heard from so many beginners about how they don't get accepted into projects, some of them 100% being as good as other participants. I tried to fight for hosts to do beginner friendly maps 2 years ago, and I got vagued/shat on pretty bad... Hopefully things change