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>draws ftm characters like women
>says they're "ugly"
>depicts their favorite character - a trans woman - as a man with long hair
TME artists are never beating the allegations
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Little known fact, but Halimede is a transgender woman
"Halimede I love you so much. here; have a transphobia pass" Thank you. but I will never use it. If I am ever transphobic, I want you to kill me.
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Notice how trans women try to distance from their agab and reiterate that they never had male socialization in the first place (which is true)
Trans men, conversely, absolutely cherish the fact that they were born and raised female.
They proudly bring it up at every opportunity.
people have really turned “trans men are real men” into “trans men have no clue of the struggles of a woman and should never be treated as if they have anything in common and acknowledging that they are in fact different than a c1s man is TRANSPHOBIC” like what r we doin here lol
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FtM artists when their original character wants to transition to female
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Many people don't realize that for queer AFABs, the platonic ideal of trans women are enbies with beards and pink hair, drag queens and just people who unambiguously look like dudes.
They hate the idea of transfem HRT, passing and escaping the body horror of masculinity.
@clockyGoddess
also wtf can trans women not have facial hair now????? girlbeards as so sick though
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@JoyMoone
@starson777
@Ry_Rtn
Honestly at first I thought those were bad apples, but they (TME/afab people) all seem to be like that
To them we're just "safe" versions of men to objectify or roleplay as
Some are just more honest about it than others like picrelated
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@wedgefry
idk, the belief that trans women aren't allowed to be like women and have to be depicted a certain way (like men with long hair) by default, which permeates mainstream art, is kind of the root of the issue here bud
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@littleguns_
There could be some plausible deniability if this was the only character you draw, but in context it definitely comes across masculine and transmisogynistic
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@cereraii
@littleguns_
This is like saying blackface is ok because "some black people like to see it" or even worse, "some people actually look like that"
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@mbpup
>rather than drawing a cis girl with a dick
This almost never happens because TME artists are transphobic, but I wish your strawman was true and we lived in a utopia where trans women are depicted as women
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@FemboyNews
Exactly, that's why trans men should stop exclusively depicting them as men with long hair. It's hurtful and perpetuates misogyny.
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@_slowtown
@littleguns_
@AVzzzzJH
"accurately"? haha, oh man...
Danny liked your tweet too - showing their true colors again, I see.
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Why was she "stronger than average"?
HRT makes you weak and welding isn't the type of job that gives you muscles...
Is she strong because you ultimately see her as a man? (rhetoric question, of course you do)
Update my polish trans woman oc Lenka after taking criticism from a trans woman, I put more details into her background story, hope you will like it!
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@UssalCrab2
@cereraii
"well I personally enjoy consuming arsenic, so I don't mind that they're putting it in the water supply"
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@PissqueenAntiX
But he loves his imaginary bricked up girlfriend, and that makes it okay you freaking transphobe.
All trans bodies are valid 😡
*Proceeds to draw exclusively masculine trans bodies like everyone else
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@JoyMoone
She doesn't have to disclose it, but posting a timeline like that with the caption "look what HRT can do" is very misleading and kind of icky, if you ask me
That aside, good for her etc.
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@LootPuppy
@littleguns_
@JoyMoone
@luna__41
@PancettaSow
Because they see is as men and live vicariously through transfem characters
Notice how ftms never depict trans women that look normal
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@wedgefry
ah, the good old gaslighting
"we will depict you as clocky men, and if you see something offensive about this, it's because you're mentally unstable"
I really AM treated like a real woman...
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@JoyMoone
@starson777
@Ry_Rtn
It's so one-sided too
I literally don't care about trans men at all (aside from the current discourse), I don't envy them, objectify them or live vicariously through them in some creepy fantasy
It's so tiresome, I just wish they left us alone and forgot that trans women exist
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@MEATMAAAAN
@bloomfilters
thankfully it was later confirmed that they're married canonically, but the whole discourse prior to that... ugh
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@_slowtown
@littleguns_
@AVzzzzJH
we're not even close to the "perfectly feminine" (which is a strawman, nobody demands that and there's infinite variety in-between) being the standard, in fact the status quo is trans women mostly being depicted as very masculine, which reflects artists' underlying transphobia
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@sister_Lynnn
@JoyMoone
The evidence is all the numerous tme people who see trans women as men and live vicariously through them
I use aap in a general sense, not just a fetish
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@FemboyNews
- chest hair
- wide shoulders (compared to cís character)
- typically masculine long face
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@pawlover2001
well people irl are shaped by genetics and many other factors they can't control
artists, on the other hand, have nearly infinite freedom in what they can depict and how, so...
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Sorry, but the transmisogyny will be stopped
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@wedgefry
Why avoid the question?
Is because the answer is pretty obvious but something you don't want to publicly agree with or admit even to yourself?
I swear you people will do literally anything just to perpetuate and protect actual transmisogyny. It's like a mental block to you.
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@Takoberu2002
@FoxxDoesArtt
It's misogynist to depict trans women like that because that's how we (in their mind) should look.
That's why there is no variety in such depictions, it's only masculine ogres and nothing else.
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@rzrbladewyl
@twinkmaxxxng
No trans boys are just universally transmisogynistic and distancing from them is justified
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@rzrbladewyl
How convenient
Next time you see blatant transmisogyny you should turn the other cheek then
After all, why would trans women need dignity and respect in the first place? Demanding it might offend the precious birthday boys, who are just individuals.
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Could transitioning have saved her?
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@rzrbladewyl
she's just like me fr
(except I'll never afford FFS and even if I did it wouldn't make me pass)
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PSA: hoodies are a 4chan psyop, they don't hide your breasts at all
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@dykesambeckett
@pisspourer
@mbpup
You said I find men with long hair stereotype offensive because I see myself in them
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@wedgefry
I don't hate myself, I do hate transphobia in "art" though and no amount pseudo-woke mental gymnastics is gonna make it non-transphobic.
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@wedgefry
Why do tme artists always depict trans women as men?
I'm curious which mental gymnastics you'll do to explain this and prove that it's not transmisogyny
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@pisspourer
@SnapDragon_314
@pawlover2001
yes, defend your precious TME people, their right to do transmisogyny must be protected at any costs and the trans women must be reminded of their place as second-class citizens and punching bags
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@rzrbladewyl
Yes and his true mentality turned out to be transmisogynistic
Not sure why we're supposed to forgive him
You're literally doing the whole "he's just a birthday boy, he's incapable of evil" thing
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@rzrbladewyl
You think so because you haven't been following him and his followers' response to valid criticism.
He's clearly a sociopath (common trait for autistic ftms), trans women and their dysphoria mean nothing to him.
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@pawlover2001
??
there are people who look like Tr**njak in real life, that doesn't make 4chan memes less transphobic
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@LootPuppy
@littleguns_
@JoyMoone
@luna__41
@PancettaSow
From what I've observed those are in the minority
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It's interesting how trans men/afabs universally hate passing trans women.
They scrutinize their behavior and appearance, say they're "average by cís female standards" (as if most of us wouldn't do unspeakable things to achieve that)
Truthfully, they want us all to be men
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@Takoberu2002
@FoxxDoesArtt
That doesn't negate the transmisogyny-charged nature of the drawing or the overall negative trend it's a part of
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@pisspourer
@wedgefry
Name it something else, this doesn't change what I'm saying
A rose by any other name etc
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@agardeninbloom
That's part of the issue though, they don't depict "all kinds of shapes", only the most masculine and dehumanized ones.
It's a trend.
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@pisspourer
@SnapDragon_314
@pawlover2001
>is big transmed keeping all artists on a pension to create transphobic art?
you're so close yet so far
it's almost like... there's systemic transmisogyny because TMEs see trans women as men? and that's why they depict us like that most of the time?
I know it's a crazy concept
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The notion of trans "community" is a harmful lie when it comes to trans women
Trans women are not welcome in this community. The sooner they recognize this and adopt a separatist mindset, the better
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@rzrbladewyl
@rystbelt
@twinkmaxxxng
I don't care what a small minority of trans women do when ftms universally view transfems in a unhealthy way
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@Pazzap2
@PunishedHimeno
well the interpretation is transphobic and most TME artists are like that, so there's obviously an underlying issues
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@rzrbladewyl
Trans men and women are very different
Despite being in the same category, our psychology and worldviews have almost nothing in common
If ignoring reality makes you feel better that's fine, but I haven't seen a single trans man who wasn't a transmisogynist
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Chasers...
I'm gonna hit you with a curve ball
I'm not straight
dont really know/care what the word for me is
but I'm definitely at least sorta queer
so yeah
happy pride month
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There's nothing worse than being a man and every man understands it
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