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economist studying kids/families & @iza_bonn research affiliate, by way of @WhiteHouseCEA , @UChicago @HarrisPolicy , Bluegrass; mom x4; personal acct, views=mine
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🚨 New working paper alert!! 🚨
In work w/
@JocelynWikle
and
@1rileywilson
, we study the policy that’s been the most prominent form of public education investment in young children—full-day kindergarten expansions—over last 3 decades in the U.S.
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My 6-year old just walked in with a fake phone made of plus-plus blocks & exclaimed, "Oh no! I have 6 missed calls from Luann!" To which I of course said, "who is Luann?"
6 yo: "My coauthor."
😹💀
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When you come across a paper that just makes you want to burn it all down: (h/t
@TrevonDLogan
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I'm sorry, I'm just going to go ahead and stop you at "conducted the analysis in Excel"
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Here’s the thing: data, statistics, even empirical evidence don’t tell you which policy path is right. Policymaking invokes value judgments & ethical considerations in deciding which outcomes matter, for whom & how much. I’m always wary of those who claim to advance some... 1/2
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Is today an "Econs should stay in their lane" day
or a "Let's lecture Econs about economics" day
?
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That’s a wrap on an amazing year
@WhiteHouseCEA
. I need to sit in a quiet, dark room for a few days and then I’ll share some thoughts on the whole experience.
j/k I have 4 kids and a TT job awaiting me back home… there’s no quiet, dark room in my future.
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In the car today, 12yo puts on a song & says, “I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again, old music really is just better.”
Dear reader, the song she was playing: Justin Timberlake’s Mirrors.
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Been pretty quiet on here as I got an RCT into the field, submitted a paper & an R&R, & finished a couple referee reports, all in anticipation of my biggest project of late, our 4th little one who arrived on Monday. He is the sweetest & totally worth the productivity losses.
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My daughter just walked into my (makeshift home) office & requested a poster board for her "economics poster competition." This is first I've heard of it, so of course, I asked her what her poster will be about: "oh, I'm doing opportunity cost." (beaming 😍)
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Newest paper idea: impact of winter weather on parenting academics' tenure likelihood. I'm thinking of using a continuous measure of exposure, something like estimated number of school closings during tenure-track years in "high impact" geographic locations. Thoughts?
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Wait for it...
(No, like seriously, wait for it. 2 of my 4 kids are now older than 10, and I've been married 13 years.)
Kids affect the timing of productivity in science: While other scientists peak in their mid-30s, mothers become more productive after 35 and after 15 years of marriage, when their kids are older than 10, from
@scottdaewonkim
and
@PMoserEcon
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File under: “tell a younger Chloe that…”
she’ll be speaking at a Brookings conference on the same program as her idols former CEA chair Ceci Rouse and Nobel Laureate Claudia Goldin 🤯
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Cannot describe my level of excitement. It’s totally normal to get teary at the receipt of this mail, right? 🥹
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Very excited to announce that I'm organizing an Economics of Education conference
@NotreDame
this fall. Bill Evans & I are co-hosting with the involvement of our many great applied micro colleagues in the department/
@LEOatND
& those across the University studying education. 1/2
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Too often, institutions focus their DEI efforts on convincing Black scholars or students to *come* to their institutions when it needs to be about ensuring that they *thrive* once there. Do the work, not just the window dressing.
Recruiting Black faculty is hardly meaningful if the institution lacks the courage to stand vocally in support of them when the rubber hits the road. Stanford should be ashamed of its public silence in the face of the racist attacks I’ve received. Embarrassing and telling.
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Yesterday was a good one. Happy 3 out of 4 kids ("halfinated" as they called it), and 1 very happy mama (boosted, and relieved).
#VaccinesSaveLives
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I’m teaching, in person, tomorrow. It’s just fully setting in that I have to wear real clothes and real shoes in fewer than 24 hours.
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Totally normal to get teary reading the first chapter of a nonfiction book by an economist, right?
Right??
😭
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Re-upping a thread on our paper on the intergenerational effects of Head Start, the federally-funded preschool program for disadvantaged children (w/Andrew Barr, Texas A&M): 1/8
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You guys, just get yourself a regression analysis that disaggregates the cause. Problem solved. 🤦♀️
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Just to be clear, I feel stretched pretty thin by teaching and research and my whole other life as mom of 3. It doesn’t leave much time for civilization destruction.
CPAC attendees are now being told “do not give money to higher education” because, the speaker argues, they’ll use it to destroy civilization.
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Can’t find at-home COVID tests right now. I have 4 kids. There’s always someone w/ cough or sniffles. Rapid tests are key to keeping our kids in school & us at work.
I know many have been pushing this point on here. But still frustrated that this is where we are 18 months in.
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🤔 Perhaps some women -- just thinking out loud here -- are anticipating having children, and balancing family with their careers, and they happen to know that their male colleagues will get the same leave and same tenure clock treatment...
A study of gender gaps in long-term career expectations and outcomes of PhD candidates in economics finds females are 10 percentage points less likely to expect tenure or to get published regularly, from Helppie McFall, Parolin, and Zafar
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(Semi) serious question: when you have kids who are activities/lessons/camps ages but not yet driving, how are you supposed to also do a job in the summer?
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My 1️⃣ tip for surviving (& maybe eventually thriving?) in this career is to find the friends who are by your side for all of the setbacks & then there to celebrate your successes as if they were their own. I am so fortunate to have
@jenniferdoleac
&
@LaurawherryR
cheering me on!
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Have been helping my 13-yo daughter with math homework, and the other day she comes home and says they are doing something, something, "line of best fit."
I perk up, and, I'm like "that's my jam!" **
"That's basically what I do all day at work."
** I'm very cool.
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I had a grad school flashback today to Steve Levitt telling our class that any applied micro paper should take about 2 weeks to do/write, and I just... 🤣😩😭
(also my phone tried to autocorrect “grad school” to “hard school”
#hardschoolflashback
)
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There are 2 types of people in economics: those who are astonished by that interview, and those who spent any time at Chicago.
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Sorry I haven't been available to weigh in on the latest COVID & schools debate* -- our sitter has been out sick for 3 days (not COVID) & my daughter's deskmate came to school unvaccinated, unmasked, & coughing while AWAITING THE RESULT of a COVID test that came back positive.
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“objective” policy prescription that supposedly follows directly from the data, be it in school reopening debates, vaccination priority plans, or anything else. They just aren’t being explicit about the weights... on which outcomes & for which groups. 2/2
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In my experience, plenty of people in this profession think that they don’t engage in discrimination & are thus not part of the problem of under representation in economics, or academia more generally. These same people feel perfectly comfortable saying to your face that… 1/3
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What they don't tell you about is how you will experience other parents' pain so profoundly. Not because you understand what they are going through, but precisely because you simply cannot fathom. 2/2
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Some of y’all never took cost-benefit analysis and it shows.
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Some of y'all are really fired up about Excel, & look I do my holiday card addresses in an Excel mail merge every yr. My gradebooks for all my courses. Sometimes I even use it for formatting tables & figures.😲
Stick around for my (bound to be offensive) hot-takes on PowerPoint.
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Does anyone else feel like they spend fully 1/4 of their working hours authenticating their identity?
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Don’t speak to your spouse during the overnight wake-ups. Nothing good ever comes from it. Just make a plan before bed and implement the plan.
One of my colleagues just had her first baby. I emailed her congratulations and she said “I’ll take any advice you got!”
Got me thinking: What is the one piece of advice you would give a first time parent?
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Queued at my polling place, line already around the block at 6am. Listening to Hamilton to get me through.
#WaitForIt
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Having recently been a guest on
@jenniferdoleac
’s new
@ProbCausation
podcast & spoken at the
@NatlHeadStart
conference
#HeadStart
’s long-term effects, I’ve been immersed in it & have fielded a lot of Qs. So, a thread to summarize what we know about the impact of Head Start… 1/n
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I’ve spent much of my weekend logging into various grad school rec letter submission systems, answering *extremely* similar questions, filling in the exact same address, title, etc. fields, & uploading my letters, over & over again. How was everyone else’s holiday weekend?
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I highly recommend a toddler along w/ your tweens so that when you’re on receiving end of millionth eye roll of day, you can tell said toddler he gets to take his very own water bottle to preschool, w/ his name on it, & he will shriek w/ delight & tell you how much he loves you
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Haven’t seen my family in 12 days. This was a long stretch away from my kiddos. One plane trip, one automobile trip left!
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Who knew that my most controversial tweet -- & the one that would get me called an out-of-touch elitist who's clearly never made a decision or had a job outside of academia (shockingly, I've had 6 non-academic jobs post-college 🙃) -- would be a send-up of a Microsoft product.
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Researchers: I know we all sometimes struggle with how to characterize our results -- in the abstract/paper & in presentations -- so let me suggest a new one: "devastating in their percentage."
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Honestly, I haven’t read a book since 2015 (when my 3rd child was born).
🧵Here's a list of all the books I've read in 2021:
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@eduwonkette_jen
I agree! But also the last line of that proposal makes the whole thing laughable. "Eliminate this terrible program" or "just get rid of the masks and vaccines" (which I think have already been lifted)
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Fun fact -- How many times did I run into my male colleagues who got the same number of clock stops as me in the pumping suite at conferences? Zero. How about at glucose testing, blood draws, and biweekly, then weekly OB appts? Also zero.
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Today the
@WhiteHouseCEA
released the 2023 Economic Report of the President, including the Annual Report of the Council of Economic Advisers. There's a lot of great content and interesting analysis, and I have a particular fondness for Chapter 4. 1/3
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Sat AM, 5-yr old accidentally calls one of my coauthors *2x* while I was yelling at older kids in bckgrnd abt screentime battles. Sun AM, snuggling w/my almost 2-yr old & he bangs my nose w/his head giving me a black eye. Hope everyone’s wknd was rejuvenating! 🙃
#academicmom
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We have three daughters & a son. Constantly got "trying for a boy?" BS all along the way, but now the "You finally got your boy!" or "Dad must be happy now!" comments in front of my 4-, 9-, and 10-year olds are pretty much rage-inducing.
With girl
#3
on the way I am baffled by otherwise intelligent people asking if we were trying for a boy.
We were not trying for a boy.
We are having a third because we like kids more than we have common sense in regard to our money or sanity.
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You guys, it has gotten very difficult to get an airport drink (staffing issues…), and the post-seminar visit airport drink is honestly why I travel.
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You know when people irritatingly say, “You think you’re busy now, just wait until you get to xyz stage of your career!” and you smile and nod and think that you couldn’t possibly be more busy?
They are, annoyingly, always right.
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Classes start this week (as in tomorrow), and I feel the least prepared I’ve ever been in 13 years of teaching my own courses. There’s just… so much… going on. Already exhausted.
This is going to go well, I’m sure.
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Our students aren’t coming back this academic year
@NotreDame
and my kids are now out of school through at least May 1st. Struggling today.
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My 10-year old asked for an online debate class for Christmas & this feels like equipping the other side with weapons before battle.
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Husband and I just greeted each other with a smooch in our entryway and my 8-year old daughter exclaimed: "Ew, gross! I know I have the 2-parent privilege, but I don't need to see my 2-parent privilege kissing!"
So funny what these kids pay attention to... (cc:
@kearney_melissa
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Hi, my full-time job is now getting my kids into summer camps.
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Just a quick S/O to my fellow TT warriors who are also staring down the barrel of moving teaching online, working with thesis students whose projects are imploding, trying to keep field work afloat (bonus points for field work in schools 💥), getting some research done 🤷♀️,...
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Husband & I told the kids we were getting ready to watch the debate. They thought we were going to debate each other. Their proposed 1st topic: are economists cool? 1/2
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I hear the Twitterverse likes babies & puppies, so one of each for your enjoyment:
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Feeling kind of like I did on 11/8/16. Stay strong, friends.
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Don’t you love hearing the advice from Nobel Laureates to not be too obsessed with the whole status thing in publication? Me too.
"The research counts, not the journal!"
Nobel Laureates speak out against impact factors.
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4-Year Old Zoom Bomb: A Comedy in 8 Parts. Mostly just amazed that we made it to the last week of live classes before this happened.
#workingmom
#academicmom
#havingitall
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A couple, well-publicized research incidents of the last week or so emphasize: You. Must. Read. The. Codebook.
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Something I learned over the course of a year working in DC: it's much easier to get work done when I'm residing in a different state than my children.
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Hearing that my dear friend, a surgeon in Chicago, is getting her first dose of the vaccine this week made me the most hopeful I’ve been in months.
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At *nine* months under review, I was getting worried about my manuscript meeting developmental milestones, but today my nine-month old learned to crawl and finally got an R&R!
"At seven months under review, your manuscript is becoming independent and developing his own unique personality. From picking up a favorite toy to scooting or crawling from place to place, your 7-month old manuscript is..."
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I’m just going to propose we stop trying to explain “assistant professor” on here. It’s not going that well.
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Trump sounds like my inner monologue during dark moments in grad school: “you are a very stable genius,” “you are, like, really smart.”
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Every day, I think, today I will not arrive at work a sweaty mess.
And every day, I am rudely reminded that it is August in DC.
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Just your semi-regular reminder that when they ask you to do that extra thing, you can (and probably should) say no.
Signed,
Asst prof over here trying to do all the extra things she agreed to and is currently regretting
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Also Universities: Oh BTW, we’re launching a new learning mgmt system & we’ve added some exciting new procedures & policies—just a few more forms to sign & some add’l deadlines.
Don’t forget to pick up a productivity-enhancing cookie, our gift to you this holiday season!
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So how did all the parents enjoy that extra hour awake with their littles?
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*A parent's guide to the phases of "where-has-all-our-money-gone?"*
~birth-10 years old: child care & summer camps
~10-16 years old: orthodontics
>16 years old: college
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My little guy realized there hadn’t been a major
#EconTwitter
blow up in the last, oh, 2 hours or so, so he decided to reignite this classic battle:
#stata
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I feel like going ahead with annual reviews as normal is particularly cruel right now. Yes, please let me list all of my professional progress this year. Oh, and I can put it in this form where it’s easily comparable to my 2019 accomplishments? Perfect.
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Glad to see Bloomberg
@business
covering our new paper on the impact of child care subsidy expansions -- very relevant to the policy debate happening as we speak! 1/n
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I'm still awaiting that great day when any other member of my family figures out how to fill a soap dispenser. My money is on the dogs before humans because what they lack in opposable thumbs they make up for in desire to make me happy.
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The person who said “the days are long, but the years are short” about raising children was talking specifically about the days spent potty training, right?
Please send thoughts and prayers. And wine.
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When Twitter suggests posts "based on your likes" and I'm like good lord, what have I been liking?!
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Perhaps you saw a recent piece in Science, "Unsettled science on longer-run effects of early childhood." I think we actually know a lot more than the piece suggests, and I joined w/ several early childhood researchers to respond. Our thoughts here:
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Just checking in -- has someone invented the app that gets my kids logged in to all of their various school-related programs & websites without my support yet? Bonus points for reminding them when they have synchronous stuff to do.
#workingmom
#academicmom
#havingitall
#balance
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I hear some of you are doing this Drynuary thing. I’m apparently trying out Wine-every-nightuary instead.
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I remember early in grad school (in a class with mostly more advanced PhD students) being assigned an empirical paper & just starting at the tables, thinking that if I stared longer & harder perhaps they would start to make sense. 🤔
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TIL that a kid at school told my daughter that Santa isn’t real, it’s just your parents. To which she responded: that’s not true because my parents could never afford a Barbie dream house. 😆
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Ah, APPAM conference notification day, when I am reminded of all the commitments past me made when November seemed oh-so-far in the distant future.
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(at least) 2 interesting, impt papers just out in August
@AEAjournals
AER:
@agoodmanbacon
on long-run effects of childhood exposure to Medicaid, using the program's early intro & coverage rules. ↓ mortality, ↓ disability, ↓ disability transfer program receipt, ↑ employment.
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A friend recently told me about an issue with an airbnb host giving her a bad review, and I realized I've never really checked how people rated me as a renter, so I went back to previous reviews, and um,
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This right here.
The "time confetti" way of working is just not conducive to deep, meaningful progress. And without colleagues, seminars, conferences, students, I feel very separated from my professional identity in this version of working from home.
I told my husband this morning that I am struggling. At home I am “mom”.
I’ve lost my professional identity - as professor, as Chair, as colleague.
Even in the “time confetti” moments I have to work, it is not effective.
Is anyone else experiencing this?
#WomenInSTEM
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Do I have thoughts about the care economy? Why yes, yes I do.
Thought you’d never ask! 1/6
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In honor of Mother’s Day, our
@WhiteHouseCEA
summary of mothers in the labor market, a topic near and dear to me!
Moms’ labor force participation now exceeds pre-pandemic levels, but they report cutting back in other ways in the workplace:
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In DC to discuss early childhood care & maternal labor force participation while my husband takes day off to volunteer at field day, serve as chauffeur & do all the things that keep the household running while we are between child care arrangements.
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Or alternatively, you can work really hard to address comments and the referee at a new journal can send in the exact same report which now references non existent exhibits and incorrect page numbers… 🙃
I see this remark more and more in referee letters to me as an Editor: “I rejected this paper at journal X and they completely ignored my remarks.”
Regardless of how I interpret that note, as an author be sure to take this into account when revising for your next submission.
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