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Ben Moore
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Curious, concerned, and hopefully courteous!
Melbourne, Australia
Joined March 2013
RT @ThomasSowell: "Just as any village idiot can destroy a priceless Ming vase, so the shallow and fad-ridden people in our public schools…
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@Konrad_Chapman @peblackstock @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Off topic
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@Konrad_Chapman @smeemartin @WeRone777 @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @craigthomler @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Some good socialist wisdom there. 😉
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@peblackstock @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder ? The CO2 partial pressure increase to date is as per the concentration increase: ~ 50%. We’re not on the same page for some reason - what are we missing?
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@WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder What relevance atmospheric pressure? Henry’s Law relates the concentration/partial pressure of a particular gas in the air to its concentration in an interfacing liquid. The ratio is a constant (for a given temperature, regardless of atmospheric pressure).
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@peblackstock @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Hope that makes HL clearer. As I’ve already said: 1. The increase in atmos-CO2 partial pressure/concentration has been ~ 50% so far. 2. The total atmospheric pressure is irrelevant.
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@smeemartin @WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Agree. I just wish that people also wouldn’t put too much faith in their own prejudices either, preaching their opinions as if they were gospel.
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@smeemartin @WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder 6%, 4% - they’re both prob close enough as global estimates. Different AIs will draw on different sources with different estimation methodologies, data sources etc.
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@Konrad_Chapman @WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Not this time. 6% down from 98% sounds plausible enough to me for the debate at hand. Is anyone challenging it?
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@WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Ah, my bad, apologies. The answer reads as if it was to a more specific question.
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@WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder ? You asked AI a different question and got a different answer. 🤷♀️
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@WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Raising the partial pressure of a gas in the atmosphere induces a proportional migration of that gas across the air-water interface and into the oceans (Henry’s Law). This defeats all the ‘AGW-killing’ hypotheses that assume that rising atmos-CO2 is coming *from* the oceans.
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@WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder I don’t see any contradiction. Do you?
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@WayneAllanH @Royalacresrod @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder You’ve every right to keep your body temperature stable by what ever means you can, of course. Just don’t assume that the rest of the world is going to stick to the energy sources and the technology that you happen to be using today.
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@FBreject1 @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder It’s the same reason that developing countries shouldn’t do so many of the other things that the West did to get rich - colonialism, imperialism, slavery, deforestation, stream engines, nuc weapons, etc - because if *everyone* did them, we’d all be worse off.
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@WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @WeRone777 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder I still produce far too much CO2 for my energy & tech choices to be a model for the rest of the world. Besides, ‘horses for courses’. I would hope, however, that my interest in transitioning to lower emissions ways & means of life is helpful to others.
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@WayneAllanH @WeRone777 @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder “How do I trust AI?” I don’t, necessarily. This result sounds reasonable enough for our discussion tho, no? Do you have reason to doubt it?
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@WeRone777 @Konrad_Chapman @peblackstock @OscarsWild1 @joe51du @WayneAllanH @Fossil_Herb @smeemartin @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @craigthomler @EberhardBaehr @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @Royalacresrod @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder @RS Suggested correction: The world *policy consensus* is to reduce emissions by 45% by 2050 and is based an a *scientific consensus* about the likely consequences of not doing so. The fact that humanity is not on track to meet this standard doesn’t invalidate either consensus.
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@Royalacresrod @WeRone777 @WayneAllanH @MichaelCastill2 @peblackstock @Frnc_prep @RegimeChangeBC @BobPartridge16 @PMgeezer @Konrad_Chapman @craigthomler @smeemartin @EberhardBaehr @joe51du @M3othra012 @RogerSp68782804 @FBreject1 @Fossil_Herb @Veritatem2021 @ge0geek @rick82612 @Ivana202020 @EarnmyV @RightOnQ42 @FreeSpeech4U_Me @OscarsWild1 @Data79504085 @nalonjack @Freeeethinker1 @ClimateRetorts @ScienceBlog3 @WilbertRobicha1 @radwyn @lheal @PeterMayfitz @kent0464 @NumbersDudeSci @GillesnFio @RonRessler3 @PolAnimalAus @norsensis @TedVerwey @pjboat @try2golf @portun81 @S_Metzeler @Winsleydale @myview1872 @AirCop264 @Cordwain_Birder Sounds like we should keep transitioning away from wood (as well as coal) as energy sources.
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