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Why I DO think Wilbur was Shelby Shubble's abuser—a really long thread.
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another bit of proof that wilbur didnt care of the pain he gave his friends
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NOW TO THE REAL BITING EVIDENCE. yes i admit went too into the filth evidence i forgot to mention the real thing but heres clips of wilbur's friends mentioning him biting them.
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hes pretty strong. he doesnt seem to be phased when his friends are in pain. in order for shelby to make their friends not worry abt the biting hurting her, they laughed it off until she'd afterwards discuss how he should know to stop, which again, he doesnt for long
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so yea dw i was in doubt for like 2 hours & even made a thread trying to defend against it but while researching it ended up being super duper clear it was him, just like hear me out. a lot of this is just debunking the stream but ill say timelines n stuff too.
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timeline (might not be exact):. wilbur has been crushing on shelby years before theyve first talked. sept 2020: first spoke + shes now aware hes crushing on her. 2021: shelby dates speedy all year till october. oct. 2021: wilbur finds out shes single and now gets with her. (1/2).
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she says they stayed friends for a bit after be he couldnt imagine not being able to speak to her anymore. in this verse hes beating himself up for what he did to her (abuse) + that they couldve made things work together but this all is why they broke up
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(he says it in 1:55) -he had an ant infestation in which the clip has him clearly explaining liking bugs. lets also remember his thing used to be despising anteaters so obv he loved/ didnt mind the ants living in his house. he obv didnt want them removed
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in SOO many of tom simon's vlog, remember that wilbur's whole bit was to bite the camera. like basically all of the vlogs included this
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so the basic facts that this ex is very lazy + messy + popular + on his computer a lot + rich + lives in the UK just makes sense right?.
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anyways the whole summary is that wilbur bit his friends/gf SO hard theyd yelp for him to stop. it was so bad that shelby + him needed a safe word for them + even then he exploited this + pushed her to that very limit until eventually he told her he wasnt gonna stop anymore-.
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oct. 21-somewhere before july 3rd: this is when we see them the most + the shipping between them is booming on all platforms until we last see them in jack manifold's meat mountain vlog. she says she blocked him 10 months after the relationship tho she blocked him around oct 22.
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now in his recent streams noticed that when he *finally* shows us a glimpse of his house, he covers up the filth instead of cleaning it up to stream. his place is literally molding. maybe thats why he keeps moving right?
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oh yea and as shelby says, there was a time wilbur told her that hes not abusing her in case she went around telling ppl that. how would he js know she'd do that? experience?.
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he even told her behind her back that he knows/expects her to clean after him, otherwise he wouldnt. wilbur tells her the ant infestation is normal in the UK. UK? none of her known exes lived in the UK who had to long distance relationship her!.
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okk so this confirmed it. shubble talked abt this issue on reddit (deleted) bery specifically which mentions the fact wilbur was 26 at the time + always had this problem. idk why it was posted 3 months ago tho. could it be to see what she couldve done? they did date at these ages
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zoe + shelby used to be mutuals with wilbur. zoe maybe blocked him as soon as the allegations hit (not sure) + shelby blocked him like around october '22 (10 months after they broke up). wilbur used to like tons of shelby's insta posts but all those likes are gone.
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he tells shelby to her face that he wouldnt prioritize her over money + fame which was why he streamed every few days at the time + never spent time with her. i mean even now, he did tours so much in 2023 that he prioritized it over his own mental good before taking a break
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might be all over the place btw bc im debunking from memory—to summarize it all, wilbur's an abuser to not only shelby but all of his friends.
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-& it was just the person he was. keep in mind hes said to had had this issue since he was little so it was like a habit yk. but the bites were so bad it left bruises all over her arms then her legs too + wilbur would poke at them for fun + smile abt it to her.
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yeaa shelby took really good care of him as again, cleaned up after him + she put her all + her money into the r/sh while he laid back + played video games on stream. she had to deal with his biting issue one-sided bc he didnt care. he used to tell her that he wanted a future-
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he shows off these bruises to their friends proudly + 'jokes' abt it being abuse. now remember this: in all of 2022 (including when they dated), hes never shown his house on stream. not a glimpse. it was pure filth there + he’d never cleaned after himself + she had to buy the-.
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he told us that as kid he was smelly as he slept on a (idr, it looked like a blanket on the floor) + he'd shower, wear his uniform, go to sleep, + didnt have to get ready cuz his smelly uniform that was slept on was alr on. lazy habits alr when he was younger!.
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while i agree that we should all go support her, we should also acknowledge the person who did this to her as she had said that she had felt anger for the past year since this guy is walking around freely on tour without facing accountability. with this, hopefully she feels heard.
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there was also the new year party them and aimsey both attended in which aimsey unfollows him right after which could only mean she saw things happen.
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got this off of a reply but this was her full reddit post. the last paragraph js shows he didnt actually care
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-sanitary supplies for them otherwise he'd js use paper towels instead of toilet paper until she visits. he always was on the computer (streaming) + never wanted to go out + spend time tg. it was almosy a monthly visit for them. this led to again, filth in his house to the point-.
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+ kids but in the end changed his mind. theres also this.
i forgot about the lyrics of tnttai when he says “never been the one for romance, never thought that i’d get married” and shubble said he’d constantly flip between being romantic and wanting to get married and then hating marriage and kids and being noncommittal.
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hopefully most of you reached this part of the thread. js wanted to let you know before you comment that even if she didnt publicly say his name, all fingers point to him by witnesses + as *i take it* she would want his name out to alarm ppl from being hurt by him in the future.
@lolzieztehe @olisbrainspace @awcusse She literally said at the start of her statement that her keeping quiet about this didn't bring her any peace, only the abuser. The only reasonable reason she wouldn't have said his name then was because it could lead to legal issues.
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the "symptom" seemed to be by being around wilbur, you have to deal with the side effects of his abuse of biting + bruising, + yk theres him talking abt their future
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she seems to also use wilbur's apartment to stream whenever shes in the uk as seen with the familiar blinds + office chair. she even said wilbur seemed to always stay on his computer instead of hanging out with her
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+ i know we shouldnt say anything till she confirms it, but she clearly doesnt want to talk abt it again (in the near future). why would it matter then? again, we should still fulfill her wishes of educating others before he hurts more ppl instead of forcing her to say his name.
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more proof that his previous solo album (msr) was about shelby was that her and her friends quickly blocked him the night of release.
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i mean even now he had a little thing where he was "eating"/"biting" the lovejoy guitars during his shows. yea its playful, but this and tommy's vlogs shows how much this guy was thinking abt biting things.
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she did confirm in the vod that she had posted abt it before taking the post down after getting her thoughts together.
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@EvermoonXX she was literally talking abt how she was mad for a year (while he toured) that hes been walking freely after what he did. by acknowledging whos "he," we know not to support an abuser.
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@Champagne_venom bro what its all public knowledge that he mostly mentioned while i was a fan of him 😭.
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thankfully someone made a better timeline event by event! :) this is for anyone still saying they never dated.
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also double checked and she blocked him in (29th) nov '23, not oct '22. this makes much more sense for the timeline as yk theyre last seen together in july '22 + also stayed friends for a bit till she was mad for 10 months then blocked him in nov '23 when he released msr on her.
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@SpaceXDragon13 @thefloatie WHAT. no. tell me youre kidding HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAh okay but fr. .
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feel like they started dating after that new years party bc i dont remember anything happen with them between oct-dec of ‘21 when she js got out of a relationship with speedy.
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photo 1: shelby being uncomfortable abt wilbur's habits + it seemed that he knew this made her want to leave (due to arguments). she did his chores/laundry. photo 2: he was apparently away for a little bit+ only came back for 3 days. photo 3: she was angry & unfairly hurt by him
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@ConfetiWhale thats not the point, its to let everyone know so we stop supporting this abuser. how i found out abt this story was EVERYONE saying he was the abuser. i wouldnt js accuse someone w/o evidence i mean its all right there. the story was been confirmed by many witnesses/friends alr.
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noticed the last time-point of the thread was in june (but again they did still hangout in jack's arby's vlog but couldve been friends there)
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@whenwillrelease @Mikacanela its light hearted so yea you kinda do… such as when someone says “im gonna kill u 😭” after u tell them a joke. ALSO REALISTICALLY WHY WOULD AZEALIA BANKS SAY THIS LMAO.
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@Mohamme39992842 @kirstyaustin_ Don’t worry about them okay? Worry about yourself. You have a roof over your head right? You go to a school right? You have parents right? Remember what you have that you couldn’t have gotten. But if you ever get a console don’t get too addicted okay? Focus on your goals :).
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@xxshAd0wEdx the point for you to stop supporting him for what he did, the post wasnt to just point out theyre dating. she said she was mad for a year that he was walking freely (on tour) after what had happened with them & so she spoke up.
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@luvvykinz oh yea thats the proof of him saying its just him "showing his love" (he said that to shelby).
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@lolzieztehe its to get others to stop supporting an abuser… its not forcibly trying to unveil them if i hadnt done anything but speak abt it (otherwise id have been forcing her to speak on it again, which obv no). she said she was mad he was walking freely (on tour) for a year + exposed him.
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@JuneBug_1320 this is titled why i "think" he abused her and either way keeps her at peace to know hes being held accountable.
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@cjh2DRXTogkd5vV the point wasnt for everyone to know her "ex," it was so we're aware not to support the ex-abuser. i mean she was literally mad all year that he walked freely (on tour) with no consequence and so spoke out.
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@dayswithoutwil he said on a stream that it was bc he posted content over the days he was gone even tho THEY DONT COUNT AS STREAMS 👎👎👎.
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@l0ttieluv it wasnt the fact i was trying to find out, i saw clips of ppl saying wilbur bit them then watched the whole vod + by then ive alr peiced it together by public knowledge of wilbur like it was kinda obv man.
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@lukeybur i cant even put it into words how much it pained me watching the spreaded around clip of him being called abusive by everyone like i felt my heart race its been 6 hrs since id heard abt it, i js cant get over it :( my world revolved around him (idc if that sounds cringey).
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@sillywilbur id never accuse him js to do that regular twt cancelling stuff, i really loved the guy and i made it my whole personality lmao but im glad to have educated some people 🫶.
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@illumolights @WilburSoot your reward for editing for 1837361 years!!😁a wave with no eye contact.
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@blueredactedcan thats not his real bday. he's 27 now tho and idk why the post was 3 months ago if theyre alr broken up at this time but they dated less than halfway thru the start of 2022.
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@qvacxy he bit shelby so hard it left bruises all over her arms + legs & so they needed a safeword which he ended up no longer respecting. in the clips i attached in the thread its audible that his friends obv arent comfortable with the biting but he doesnt seem to care such as this one:
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@subzeroroses bc ive been a big fan of him since 2019 so i have some (public) knowledge abt him and so the things she said correlated to a lot abt what i know abt him alr so i js said all of them here.
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@piripopi908 here. its deleted so you wont see her post, and i basically posted the whole thing of comments other than a person's similar experience to it (sounded very similar to hers so i didnt wanna confuse people).
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@lolzieztehe @olisbrainspace @awcusse She literally said at the start of her statement that her keeping quiet about this didn't bring her any peace, only the abuser. The only reasonable reason she wouldn't have said his name then was because it could lead to legal issues.
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@nepetafictive my og thread was to prove why she was TALKING abt him, & thinking abt it a *while* after i wrote it im like getting kinda suspicious as to the more (making sense) evidence on shelby than wilbur, & even so shelby didnt debunk the proof except for “nope, take this down, its wrong”.
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@Monkey_boots_ @MarsArgosGF @ccharza the evidence is pretty clear tho i have a whole ass thread lmao. she wont be confirming it for a while/ever since she said she wont be talking abt it anymore.
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#NOTMYHAIR okay im getting cancelled for this but he posted it so just for you guys imma say it, in quackitys insta he posted a pic with his "mom" which is just him in a filter WITHOUT HIS BEANIE SO THATS HIS HAIR REVEAL YAYA pls dont cancel me though ill take it down if you want
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@AnyanaSofia @zyra4k THAT WAS BLUE BOATS (tommy, tubbo, phil, and wilbur) BUT WILBUR DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS A THEME AND GOT TOMMY TO HELP HIM DRAW A LION 😭 he was stressed out so much when phil told him last minute that there was already craftmaster as the main theme for everyone to recreate LMAOAO.
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@thai_bubbles no this was abt another girl he said he liked in high school but found out she had a bf + then started seeing that she always spammed tons of hearts to the bf (they ended up dating after but this is just his jealousy). this is also in 2019 in which him + shelby hadnt spoken/met.
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@EvermoonXX @picklescrum @CharaRDreemurr bro no you really havent read any part of my thread 😭 wilbur had a past of having bad hygiene and ant infestations confirmed by rhianna in '22 & that was js like the guy shelby described. *there was literal witness/vid proof of biting others (even said his name in the clips).
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@nepetafictive ik she doesnt wanna keep talking abt her trauma but at least like actually give us stuff while ure at it?? 😞 with my thread, i was hoping for more details to the story but instead she started liking tweets of wilbur death threating & doxxing, & doubting mental illness?? oh!! 😨.
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@nepetafictive idk i feel like now that everyone believed her, she kinda ns laid back & let her fans do all the talking (with no actual proof given from herself), but even with her fans defending her, ngl it js sounds unbelievable & so bias 😭 i read like dozens of threads on both sides of this.
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@Wilbvrs_Crow @Talulah_Silver_ @SwagburSoot @LYNXOVERTHERE @wilburtwts i believe she also ended up meeting them backstage after the show bc she missed it! :).
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@Acromata_ why are you responding, he already addressed the situation ☠️ also these were just fillers of evidence.
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