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Bovine excrement in principle.
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There you have it: irrefutable proof we’re all living in a computer simulation.
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Some first-born children in Egypt come to mind.
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Of all the arguments for theism that smart people take seriously, this remains one of the worst.
1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist. 2. Objective moral values do exist. 3. Therefore, God exists. #Apologetics #MoralArgument
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Oh good, then you definitely wouldn’t have introduced a certain theologian as “Dr. William Lane Craig” when you interviewed him on your show. (. Right?).
Only people with Ph.D.'s in hard sciences and medical doctors should be called "doctor." This has been my consistent position for over a decade, as the execrable @michaeljknowles can attest.
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1. For any thing that begins to exist, there is a time (t) at which it does not yet exist. 2. There is no time (t) at which the universe does not yet exist. 3. Therefore, the universe did not begin to exist.
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“Some people are gay” is propaganda?.
Maybe Disney and Pixar could concentrate on telling a story instead of distributing propaganda to children.
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Nothing triggers me like slavery apologetics. Y’all are lucky I think grey hairs are cool.
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Honestly, I’ve never come across a description of Heaven that didn’t seem like torture to me.
@TheoreticalBS @InspiringPhilos So, you do not want to live forever? I am a born-again and God's Word tells me I my physical body will dies but I will be present with the Lord. Sounds, good to me. Just don't see a down-side to a relationship with Jesus 🤔.
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A simple argument:. 1. Ought implies can. 2. If Christianity is true, we ought to live without sin. 3. From (1) and (2), if Christianity is true, we can live without sin. 4. We cannot live without sin. 5. Therefore, Christianity is not true.
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Quite simply, this is false advertising. Christianity doesn’t teach that you’re “just forgiven”. Your forgiveness is entirely conditional, and whoever fails to meet those conditions has an eternity of torment awaiting them.
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Or is Christianity best explained by the human condition?.
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Needless to say, it looks like my debate with Sye Ten Bruggencate is not going to happen. Like, ever.
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Took a break from this account for a hot minute (got distracted by the election and its chaotic aftermath). What’d I miss? Does God exist yet?.
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“Thou shalt not enslave” seems like a clear improvement, but I guess that’s just my sinful nature talking.
Just so you know:. There is not a single edit you could make to Scripture to improve it. Anything you would do to amend so much as a biblical comma would drastically demote it. You can’t improve the Word of God. You’d only ruin perfection. Keep your edits on the shelf.
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Old Testament: “Love thy neighbor.”. New Testament: “Love thy enemy.”. Kevin’s Testament:.
“Is your freedom more important than my safety?!”. I don’t know you, my lunch is more important to me than you are.
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“Children of ____ belong in cages” is not a sentence any morally sane human being could utter, no matter how you fill in that blank. This is what Trumpism does to us.
@chargingwookie @TheoreticalBS @SecularOutpost Children of animals who break the law belong in cages, which is a practice that was started under Obama. The Prez didn’t defund early childhood care because it was never funded in the first place. He did implement Ivanka’s plan for early childhood care though. Pay attention!.
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Can we PLEASE stop pretending that God answers the question of why there is something rather than nothing?.
Why is there something rather than nothing? This Reasonable Faith original video discusses Leibniz' contingency argument for God's existence! #Apologetics #Leibniz
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Christianity offers no hope for the vast majority of people across the world and throughout history who were never ‘saved’. In fact it promises infinitely more suffering for them. Christianity offers hope for the selfish, and despair for the selfless.
Atheism doesn't offer hope in the face of suffering. Christianity does.
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I genuinely worry that there is no amount of literature I could ever read that would make, “God is being itself” a meaningful sentence to me.
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“The moment Christians realized evolution was supportive of naturalism was the moment they tried to prove that 6 days weren’t really 6 days.”. Anyone can play this silly game.
The moment atheists realized the big bang was supportive of Christian belief was the moment they tried to prove that a beginning wasn't really a beginning.
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This is an abused child, all grown up, struggling to make sense of his self-hatred. It’s fucking heartbreaking.
God’s Word says that there is none good. Your child isn’t good. His heart is evil. But there’s a way to restrain his sinfulness: teach him the fear of the Lord.
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William Lane Craig is so smart, he can refute a WHOLE PERSON.
William Lane Craig Refutes Atheist Sam Harris
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It’s literally the opposite inference: God *isn’t* just “another person like you or me,” and condoning slavery *isn’t* just “something I wouldn’t do”. God is morally perfect, and slavery is objectively wrong. It isn’t the atheist who conveniently turns into a relativist, here.
Atheists who are perturbed by OT dealings of God with His people think they are on the same level as God. To them God’s just another person like you or me. So when He does something they wouldn’t do they demand explanation. He’s God. You’re not. There’s your explanation.
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Why does nearly every argument against determinism appear to hinge upon misunderstanding it?.
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I’ve never understood how pointing to something we (subjects) find beautiful is supposed to prove its beauty isn’t subjective.
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Meaning either (a) Jesus did not pay our penalty for sin, or (b) the penalty for sin is not, in fact, death.
Btw, Jesus is alive.
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This question is strange. Christianity is intrinsically less probable than theism, because it’s theism *plus* a bunch of other extremely specific claims about the world. Seems to me that if theism is true, the most likely religion would be whichever one adds the least to it.
If Theism were true, would Christianity be the most likely religion?. Note: this question is conditional; one can debate the answer without committing oneself to the truth of theism or Christianity.
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Atheism just empties everything of *your* values, Mike.
Atheism, when consistent, empties everything of value. Love, goodness, nobility, beauty, and evil are all mere social constructs. Atheism harms atheists. But here’s the good news. Everything having such genuine value is actually one of the reasons atheism is wrong. 1/3.
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“My mind can’t be changed” isn’t something to boast about.
There is no evidence or argument you can present to me that would convince me God doesn't exist, any more than you could provide evidence or arguments to convince me that I don't exist. The question left open to me is how I should live knowing what I know.
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Oh stop already.
1. If God does not exist, objective moral values do not exist. 2. Objective moral values do exist. 3. Therefore, God exists. #Apologetics #MoralArgument
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Suppose a human is born, lives for 30 years, then dies. But by some fluke of nature, they never actually become conscious—at no point in their life do they have any thoughts, sensations, perceptions, emotions, awareness, knowledge, happiness, sadness, etc. Were they a “person”?.
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From an apologetics perspective, this is a tactically mystifying move. I have direct, immediate access to my own propositional attitudes; Dorothy doesn’t. If Christianity as a set of claims about the world includes this one, and this one is false, then Dorothy has just proven to.
@TheoreticalBS God doesn't believe in atheists or agnostics. The only reason humans resist the idea of God is because they know He exists and do not want Lordship over their lives.
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Gentle reminder to apologists this beautiful Father’s Day that comparing God to a parent makes God look worse, not better.
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People mix up “explained by” and “assumed by” a lot, I’ve noticed.
Btw consciousness is far better explained by Theism than it is by Atheism.
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Oh good, then there’s nothing to worry about, since I’ll be able to leave Hell any time I want.
Never forget, all that are in hell choose it. God doesn’t send people to hell, they have locked the doors from the inside and reject Christ.
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The deity quoted in Leviticus 25:44-46 would like a word….
@waldenpod I think it's metaphysically impossible for one human to own another human.
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All morning my wife has been making sexy gestures and then asking me if “He is risen”. She knows she’s going straight to Hell, don’t worry.
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Some of the best refutations of that argument are on YouTube.
Roses are red; violets are blue; you can’t refute the Kalam by watching YouTube.
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So I was hacked last week (in fact it seemed the hacker deleted my account entirely) and Twitter support was completely unhelpful—but my work’s PR department performed some kind of dark magic and recovered EVERYTHING. Lesson: if you’re gonna pray to anyone, pray to a publicist.
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Am I misunderstanding something, or is the owner of this account openly fantasizing about holding an atheist down and physically assaulting them whilst maniacally laughing about it?.
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Problem solved.
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Sorry but this is cheap and doesn’t prove anything.
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The Problem of Evil isn’t an attribution of certain psychological states to God; it’s the insight that certain psychological states *theists* attribute to God can’t be reconciled with the observable world.
Two things. First, any atheist that forwards the problem of evil is guilty of the same. Second, if you pay close attention to the work of someone like Dr. William Lane Craig, he doesn't do this.
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Because my wife loves our son too much to have given birth to him at a time when we could not have given him the love and care he deserves.
@TheoreticalBS Help me understand how a person with a living child takes the stance : Pro-Abortion❓.
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Fellow atheists, can we please retire this lazy rejoinder?.
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Sure, but then theism doesn’t predict a universe.
Quick reminder that Naturalism doesn't predict suffering.
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And printing more money is the answer to the problem of inflation.
Christianity is the answer to the problem of evil.
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Let’s say someone believes that the universe (“the whole of material reality”) is also the whole of causal reality. It’s logically impossible for the whole of causal reality to have cause. Ergo, the universe cannot have a cause. I don’t see how this is absurd. 🤷♂️.
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When it comes to things for which we should *expect* evidence (like a loving, omnipotent Creator who not only wants us to “know the truth,” but wants a personal relationship with each one of us) then absence of evidence is *absolutely* evidence of absence.
@PBDerbysAtheist @RaeHicks9 @nntaleb @carter_embrey @sapinker Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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I’ve been thinking about Philosophy of Religion for more than a quarter-century, and I still have no idea how one should respond to noise like this.
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I feel like it would be so much easier for me to date a Christian than it’d be to date an atheist who uses phrases like “sky daddy,” wears Flying Spaghetti Monster t-shirts, thinks religion is a mental disorder, etc. Christians, do you ever feel this way about YECs and the like?.
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“God doesn’t have moral obligations” is a terrifying sentence.
When you're saying, "God should stop evil," you're saying that God has a moral obligation to stop evil. Well, first of all, God doesn't have obligations, but consistent with his nature, He will stop evil. But the question is, when?.
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Are there multiple different ways for a German to interpret a Nazi flag?.
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Craig’s distinction between moral ontology and moral epistemology doesn’t solve the problem posed by the questioner, because we’re talking about an omniscient Being. Did God not *know* that treating human beings as property is objectively wrong when He said, “You may buy slaves”?.
Is There a Conflict Between #Morality Being Objective and Changing Over Time? #Apologetics #Philosophy
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Generally speaking, someone working epistemically backwards from a commitment to the conclusion that Christianity is true.
How would YOU define/describe a Christian apologist?.
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Oh dear, this is embarrassing.
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Maybe I’m just dense, but arguing that A-theory of time must be true because human language is tensed makes about as much sense to me as arguing that the earth must be flat because a map is two-dimensional.
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1. Whoever begins to exist has a birthday….
Happy birthday Dr. Craig from all of us on the Reasonable Faith team! Your tireless work and service to the Kingdom has benefited the world both now and for generations to come!
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Why not, though?.
God doesn’t need to explain or justify his actions to anyone.
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WLC: “(x) is impossible.”. Anyone: “No it’s not; (e) is an entirely possible example of (x).”. WLC: “Just because (e) is possible doesn’t mean it’s the case. You haven’t met your burden.”. It’s surprising that William Lane Craig isn’t called out more for this modus operandi.
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This is your brain on fundamentalism. 🍳.
@queen0fheathens @DJHammurabi1 In cultures without a finacial safety net, the slave would likely starve to death or die of exposure in the wilderness. Treatment of the slave andd the purpose of the slavery is what makes it right or wrong. Slavery isn't wrong in and of itself.
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Um… die?.
What would you do in this situation?
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Back in my YouTube heyday, one of my most formidable Christian interlocutors (who I’m proud to say remains a good friend) went by the handle, “Epydemic2020”. Guys. Epydemic2020. I take everything back; God does exist—prophets and all.
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Really interesting. I think we can run the argument in reverse as well: philosophy is what you get when you have brains naturally selected for survival but *not* for understanding the world as it actually is. If God exists, it is very surprising that we’d have any need of it.
Btw, the existence of philosophy is evidence against atheism. A mindless foundation doesn’t predict deep thinking.
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Right, ‘cause the Problem of Evil is all about how awesome we think evil is.
Every argument given against God traces itself back to the truth that men love darkness and hate light.
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Fellow atheists, can we please retire this lazy rejoinder?.
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One fallacy I see committed too often in defenses against the Problem of Evil is to treat any good that can’t be produced without some suffering as if it therefore outweighs *any* amount of suffering. Courage isn’t a blank check for misery.
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Amber alert, guys. Cameron has clearly been abducted and he’s trying to send a distress signal by prefacing his declarative statements with anything other than “btw”. STAY STRONG CAM, WE’RE COMING FOR YOU!!!.
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Design arguments aren’t really my forte, but if you think the “puddle analogy” objection fails because the universe might not have had water given different physics… then I suspect the problem is you misunderstanding the objection, not the objector misunderstanding the argument.
Even atheists respect this argument for God. Allow me to anticipate two objections that I get in response to this video. The first is called the "puddle analogy." It asserts that life will fit whatever universe it finds itself in just like a puddle will fit whatever shape
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If “conquered death” means Jesus died but didn’t stay dead, then one of two things follows:. (a) the penalty for sin is *dying*, but not permanent death (in which case we are fully reconciled to god once our hearts stop). -or-. (b) Jesus didn’t actually pay the penalty for sin.
Btw, Jesus conquered death.
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It’s strange how readily we accept that physics is unintuitive, while expecting—nay, insisting—that metaphysics be intuitive. If anything, shouldn’t it be the other way around?.
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Hey @CapturingChrist, I’d like to have a more precise understanding of how you employ the term “first cause,” so if you’ll permit me a diagnostic question:. If, say, the universe itself began to exist uncaused, would it be correct to describe the universe as the “first cause”?.
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I have a joke about Romans 1, but you already know it.
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He just flatly contradicted himself, right? I’m not crazy?.
If the rights that we have are ones that can be created and given to us, they can also be denied and taken away from us. The rights that are secure are the ones that only God gives us.
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There’s a bait ‘n switch here that I don’t care for. Sure, we should not only proportion our beliefs to the available evidence, we should also aspire to have beliefs that result from consistent standards of evidence (so, if you think copies of copies of a few millennia-old.
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@dorth_2000 It makes the god you believe in look evil, and thus unworthy of worship. Maybe you should stop proselytizing to me, Dorothy. All you ever accomplish is making Christianity look worse.
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But this is how you create a persecution complex. When you believe the all-knowing Creator told you that you’re going to be hated by the world for your beliefs—and He can’t be wrong about that—you’re forced to start interpreting all your experiences in a way that confirms it.
With a handful of exceptions, the New Testament indicates that Christians will be loathed, not applauded, by the world. We obviously shouldn't aspire to be hated nor should we do anything to merit animosity. But it shouldn't surprise us.
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I’m going to try making some changes to my social media habits for the sake of being more present with my family (and in life, generally). I’ll still tweet, but you may see a lot less of the back-and-forth I’ve trained my followers to expect from me. Thanks for understanding!.
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The tendency among successful people to smugly pretend luck doesn’t exist never ceases to infuriate me.
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I would like to say, for the record, that this new blue checkmark next to my name is just as annoying to me as it probably is to you. I wanted the option to post longer videos, and this (apparently) comes with it. It’s neither earned nor meaningful. Please ignore it.
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It’s not a difficult question. The answer is, “Because consigning people to an eternity of suffering for behaving consistently with the nature you endowed them with in the first place is not ‘just’ in any meaningful sense.”.
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If we grant that the soul of any human who dies under the age of accountability will by default spend eternity in Heaven, couldn’t we make a kind of Pascel’s Wager concluding that any parent who truly loves their child should have an abortion or commit infanticide?.@lizjackson111.
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This apologetic is so disingenuous. If non-Christians actually believed that what they are rejecting is a relationship with God (and not merely the *claims* of other fallible human beings *about* a god) then maybe Craig’s ‘drowning man’ analogy would make a lick of sense.
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The idea that Christianity entails anyone (much less everyone) “owing a debt they cannot pay” is a reason to think Christianity is false.
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Why *aren’t* God’s pronouns ‘They/Them?’ Clearly, He isn’t “biologically male”—no penis, no XY chromosome, no hormones—right? . But you see, He has *self-identified* as this gender. We don’t call it a “delusion”. We honor it, and view it as true in the sense that matters. Huh.
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Well I guess that settles it.
Hope you're having a great Tuesday so far. Also, God, a perfect being, exists necessarily.
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God literally declared one particular race His “chosen people”. Showing partiality is plenty Biblical.
The principle of not showing partiality is not only biblical, it’s much more just than a lot of the modern discussion around race issues. Yes, racism is big a problem. I’m saying we aren’t that good at the solution part if we don’t use “impartiality” as our standard.
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Tell me you haven’t studied moral philosophy withou—oh fuck it.
@elkjennings Even if you believe in objective morality you cannot successfully argue for it from an atheistic worldview. This is a well known fact.
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For the 1,089,462,130th time, rejecting free will doesn’t entail that decisions don’t happen.
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The Argument from Divine Hiddenness agrees.
The cure for atheism is God.
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I really don’t care for anecdotes like this. Sometimes people don’t realize how you’re using certain terms until halfway into the conversation, once you’ve tried to infer something from them. Revising one’s answer upon reflection is not some indicator of intellectual poverty.
I had a long chat with a Jewish atheist on a plane last year. I asked her if morality was objective or subjective. She said it was objective. I showed how objective morality gives reason to believe in God, the grounding of morality. She then said it was subjective.
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Amber alert, guys. Cameron has clearly been abducted and he’s trying to send a distress signal by prefacing his declarative statements with anything other than “btw”. STAY STRONG CAM, WE’RE COMING FOR YOU!!!.
Hey. God is good.
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“You’re bringing up my sex life because it’s easier than answering all of these objections, right?”. All the blood drained from the apologist’s face. He was caught. He had pivoted to argumentum ad hominem because he didn’t like philosophical rigor. 🙄.
“You’re raising all of these objections because you’re sleeping with your girlfriend. Am I right?” All the blood drained from the young man’s face. He was caught. He was rejecting the kalam cosmological argument because he didn’t like God’s morality.
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Well guys, here it is. I don't have any well-formed thoughts about this yet except to say that I deeply enjoyed the discussion.
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