Steven Tiger
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While everyone watches GA, an immense danger has arisen in PA: Repub state senators took over the session from the Lt. Gov. and prevented the swearing in of a Dem who won his race for state senate. This is an open declaration of war against American democracy and the rule of law.
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I seldom cry, but I shed a few tears a little while ago while saying goodbye to our dog Lottie. We had adopted her from a shelter when she was 11, and she was just a few months shy of 19 at the end, and failing rapidly. It was time to let go of our little friend.
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Jesus said we should help the poor, and he had some harsh words for the rich and powerful. So why do evangelicals support rich politicians who promise to cut programs that help the poor?
And the answer is...
They don't give a f*ck what Jesus said.
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Hey gang! A personal best for me:
A Bible-besotted doctrine-obsessed True Believer just told me that I am a demon from hell, and he REBUKED me in the name of Jesus. 🤪
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In the years I have been on Twitter, I cannot recall anyone offering a daily posting that says "Gravity is real" or "That big bright ball in the sky in the Sun."
But EVERY DAY, a flock of in-your-face born-agains must inform the world that "Jesus Christ is Lord."
Why is that?
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I recently said "Fuck you" to the subset of Christians who tell me that my life has no meaning if I am an atheist.
Some were offended by the vulgar word but they do not see how offensive their entire message is.
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A prophecy:
Soon after Donald Trump dies, his worshippers will report that he appeared to them, said he would be with them to the end of days, and then ascended into heaven. Tens of millions will then start swearing that they too saw him.
This is how cults evolve into religions.
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Some believers are baffled by atheists' criticism of religion: "If they don't believe, why do they care that we do?"
We don't care what you worship; we care about our society. Too many believers impose their religion on others, intruding into civic matters of law and education.
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@Dave_O_Leary77
Dave, there are no words adequate to describe how little your sexuality concerns me. My concern is people's compassion and rationality--not who they find attractive.
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Came across this item, which encapsulates a lot of what I think about organized, scripture-based doctrinal religion:
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Suppose a parent tells a child "You are depraved and evil, and you deserve to burn in fire forever. But if you love me and depend on me entirely throughout your life, I'll protect you from that fate."
What would we think of that parent?
Remind me again, why do people worship God?
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Aggrieved Christians ask why atheists attack their faith. My answer: Because sane Christians give consent-by-silence to the fanatics and lunatics among them.
I'll shut up when sane Christians start rooting out the cancer of fanaticism, which threatens all of civilized society.
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Christians who warn me to start believing "before it's too late" claim to love a god who consigns people to eternal hellfire unless they believe in him and beg to be forgiven for their imperfection, according to a collection of Iron Age writings.
And THEY question MY rationality.
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The clearest proof that God doesn't exist is all the smug self-appointed religious philosophers on Twitter who argue for his existence. If he were real (but hiding, for some unfathomable reason), he would choose competent people to speak for him.
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The hatred expressed by some Christians is wondrous to behold. Recently, I was called a communist based on my hostility to organized religion and my profile (vegan, cat-person...). Today, I was called a homosexual because I rejected an incoherent first-cause argument for God.
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Suppose God exists. Why does anyone assume that the appropriate human response is worship?
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I am genuinely baffled: Can someone explain--seriously--how it can be that so many evangelical clergy on Twitter are so incredibly ignorant about their own religion?
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I do not hate God, Jesus, or the Bible.
I see bibliolatry as the path to fanaticism.
I see fanaticism as the path to terrorism.
I sneer at those Christians who praise love but promote hatred; who praise Jesus but ignore his moral teachings; who praise truth but speak lies.
Okay?
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I must step away from this venue for a while. I have let myself get far too angry at the political and religious lunacy engulfing America, and that is harming me and blunting my ability to resist it.
For now, appreciation to my friends here and peace to all. --Steve
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I keep hearing "We can't ignore 70 million people who voted for Trump."
They aren't ignored; their votes were counted. Should we ignore 75 million people who voted for Biden because Trump is whining and crying that he was cheated?
"But-- but-- the evidence!"
Show it. Or shove it.
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Twitter is drenched with prayers from the faithful. My question to them: God knows what is in your heart, so what possible purpose can it serve to post your prayers on social media? If I were cynical, I might think they are announcing their piety for others to admire.
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If the Bible is God's word...
Why did he rely on Iron Age stenographers writing on media that disintegrates over time? Why didn't he record his word by himself, in every language, on indestructible plates whose very composition would be clear evidence of miraculous creation?
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@DrScotMSullivan
If Christianity were reasonable, there would be no need for philosophers and apologists to sell it, and the history of Christianity would not have been so blood-spattered.
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The Rapture that didn't happen was yesterday's news. Today it is a cell phone test that will turn vaccinated people into zombies.
Is this some kind of contest for who can post the post outlandish b.s. and get people to believe it?
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Christians tell me that Satan is the ruler of this world and that he is a deceiver. Okay... But then how do they know that they have not been deceived by pledging their allegiance to the Bible and listening to a voice they assume to be the Holy Spirit of God?
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If it is rational to believe in God because the Bible says he exists, why is not natural to believe in Zeus because the Homeric epics say he exists? 🤔
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Real question for Christian apologists:
Christians claim that Christ defeated Satan, yet they still speak of Satan as having power. How does that work?
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Clearing out a closet, I found this relic from the 1960s, when I was in college. Very clever tool for its time, but does anyone still use it?
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This will cost me a lot of followers, but I find religious fundamentalists' anti-abortion rhetoric insincere:
1. Protestantism has been around for five centuries but they ignored abortion until the 1970s, when they began taking it on for political advantage.
(cont'd)
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Fellow non-believers!
Gotchapologists insist that atheism must be expressed as "I believe God doesn't exist" and not as "I don't believe God exists." Their goal: Turn atheism into a belief, just like theism and with the same burden of proof.
Watch out for this cheap stunt.
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To those who think Jesus' resurrection is credible because Paul said there were 500 witnesses (1 Cor. 15:3-8):
Today in America, millions of MAGA-cultists swear to the lie that the 2020 election was stolen.
Testimony from people desperately clinging to delusion is worthless.
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A rare honor!
I have been added to a Twitter list of "Mute-Worthy People"--apparently those considered the most loathsome and/or dangerous by the American Confederation of Christofascist MAGA-Turds.
It is gratifying to be appreciated for one's efforts! 😺
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The blind arrogance of some theists is amazing. When confronted with biblical depictions of God committing genocide and with real evil in the world, they say we cannot judge God.
Then they praise God's goodness and perfection but deny that they are making any form of judgment.
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To the theists' question "Why don't you believe in God?" there are two answers:
🔹I don't believe in deities in general because there is no evidence that they exist.
🔹I don't believe in the specific character called "God" in the Bible because he is too flawed to be a deity.
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The church, proving that it is the prolocutor of truth. 🙄
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To repeat what must be kept in mind:
Creationists are liars. IF they had valid evidence that evolution is false, they would write a paper for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal. But instead, all they do is rant on social media.
Liars for Christ, indeed.
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To
#Christians
who say my life is meaningless because I will die and be forgotten:
I am heavily involved with being a grandfather to a 17-month-old. I may die before he starts forming lasting memories--but for now, we are very important in each others' lives.
So fuck you.
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Some of the Christians who sneer at atheists for having no objective basis for morality support Donald Trump.
No comment I could make could surpass that brute fact.
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Friends, I feel honored today. A genuine Christian intellectual--a credentialed Thomistic philosopher, no less--has, in quick succession, labeled two of my postings as "absurd" and "nonsense." And he was kind enough to advise me to stop.
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Most of what I get from Twittangelicals is "God demands X... and God hates Y..."
My question: Who the f*ck appointed these smug cretins to speak for God?
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God to Man: "Your species deserves death. But if you worship and serve me, you'll be spared. Resist, and you're damned."
Master to slaves: "Your race deserves death. But if you worship and serve me, you'll be spared. Resist, and you're dead."
Why is one good, the other bad?
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Want to know the difference between hardcore religious fundamentalism and psychiatric disorders involving delusions or hallucinations?
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Yeah, so do I.
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There are no words...
I was just told by a True Believer that the reason I don't see miracles is that I lack faith and rely on my rationality, which the Devil uses to trick me.
Oh.
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Why do creationists refuse to learn anything about evolution?
They are terrified that if they actually learned about it, they might come around to accepting it. So they just screech like howler monkey and throw their feces at it.
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I keep saying we MUST define what "freedom of religion" does & doesn't mean. SCOTUS has just ruled that religions can ignore NY's public health rules aimed at containing COVID19. Religion is now licensed to spread disease.
This is NOT religious freedom; this is LUNACY.
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The Bible and apologists:
For 33 years, I wrote scientific reports/reviews for medical journals, and not once did anyone need a damned apologist to interpret and explain what I wrote; not once did anyone say "Well, maybe what it means is..."
I write clearly. Why can't God?
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Most Christians accept the Bible as God's word because it says so in the Bible.
Okay, if that's how it works...
"Steve Tiger offers incomparable wisdom and insight in every tweet he posts." --Steve Tiger
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I don't believe there has been a recent mutation leading to an upsurge in stupidity. The upsurge is due to social media giving a platform to idiots and lunatics. The dam has broke and a tidal wave of stupidity is roaring down upon us.
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How often does this happen?
Theist: "Here is absolute proof that God exists..." Goes on to offer some incoherent gibberish.
Atheist: "That it is incoherent gibberish..." Explains why.
Theist: "Why do you hate God?"
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Today in 1562, Huguenots were massacred by French Catholics. This was just an episode from centuries of religious wars when Catholics and Protestants slaughtered each other over whose unprovable doctrines were the correct unprovable doctrines.
Where was the Holy Spirit?
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PSA:
Beware of fundamentalist Christian bullshit!
Evolution does NOT mean one species turns into another. It does NOT mean alligators lay eggs that hatch gorillas whose offspring are kangaroos.
Evolution is ongoing change in genotype, through adaptation or mutation.
That's it.
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@steelerschic_85
@katesdragon1
My advice to Americans who actually care about America: FORGET THE DAMNED POLLS. On election day, get out and vote as if the fate of the nation and the world depended on you alone... because any other attitude could lead to catastrophe.
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Common question: "Why are you an atheist?"
My answer: If God were real, he would appear on Earth in unmistakably divine form to say "Stop saying the Bible is My Word. It isn't! Do you really think I wrote that Iron Age farrago in which I am depicted as a bungling psychopath?"
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Several non-MAGAt's have told me to stop insulting MAGAt's and try to understand them.
I would IF we were arguing over policies and actions. But in their own words, it is war: Yes, reality vs hate-driven fantasy. There is no basis for understanding, no common ground.
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Attention, sane
#Christian
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Unless YOU muzzle these lunatics, don't whine about people judging Christianity by its worst members. You give them consent-by-silence, they become the public face of Christianity.
No, we will NOT leave your bedroom. In our watch, you will not:
• Use contraception
• Engage in unnatural acts
• Be polyamorous
• Neglect your spouse
• Use pornography
Marriage is not a private affair between two persons; it is a Sacrament that must be respected.
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It seems that everyone whose profile starts with "Servant of Christ" or "Slave of Christ" is a dolt. Are there any exceptions?
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Theists who rely on the "morality argument" always ask how we know that murder and torture are wrong without an objective criterion for morality. Maybe they think atheists will say "Gosh! I'd better become a believer so that I'll KNOW those things are wrong!"
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@thor_benson
@AErinalex
Five years ago, Repub notables warned of what would happen if Trump became their nominee. And when he did, they pretended that it was a great thing for them and for America. January 6 was the inevitable endpoint of their craven subservience to the monster they themselves created.
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@arnolfosaur
This is why I keep saying (to people who keep telling me what Trump is not permitted to do) that Trump and the GOP-turds can do any damn thing they want as long as no one stops them.
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Science fiction is often optimistic about future technology, pessimistic about future social change. I am reading C.M. Kornbluth's 1951 novella, "The Marching Morons," a satiric prophecy about the world becoming overpopulated by morons outbreeding the intelligent.
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It seems that everyone whose Twitter profile opens with "Christ is Lord," "Slave of Christ," etc is smug, arrogant, and ignorant.
Is that how they emulate Christ?
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Do you ever get the feeling that many of the people who describe themselves as "Christ followers" think following Christ consists of shouting their devotion while defiling his moral teachings?
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We will eventually get past the coronavirus.
Getting past the plague of religion will take much longer. I wish I could live to see it disappear (like the last case of smallpox), but that will not be. All I can do is keep on taking part in the disease-containment effort.
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I just saw a poll showing Biden ahead of Trump among women. How long before the evangelical right calls for repeal of the 19th Amendment, citing the Bible to support keeping women silent?
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The most frequent questions on religion in America are "Is the Bible the word of God?" and then "Does God exist?" and "Is Jesus God incarnate?"
But the most important question is: WHY are believers obsessed with getting everyone to accept the same beliefs? WHY should anyone care?
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Have you noticed?
Lots of theists ask atheists "If you don't believe in God, why do you keep posting criticism of us for believing?"
And yet they NEVER ask each other "If we believe in God, why do we keep posting criticism of atheists for not believing?"
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In case anyone still doesn't see what is happening:
Trump's election strategy is to:
🔹Create chaos (as he did in the debate last night)
🔹Spread conspiracy theories
🔹De-legitimize the election results in advance
🔹Foment alt-right violence in the streets
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Theists say God is outside of space and time. Oh?
🔹Space is the dimension of WHERE. Outside of space is nowhere.
🔹Time is the dimension of WHEN. Outside of time is no-when.
🔹To say that something is nowhere and no-when is to say that it does not exist.
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To clarify my own view on abortion: The goal should be to reduce the incidence of unwanted pregnancy. But relatively few anti-abortionists talk about sex ed and access to affordable contraception. The need for abortion is sad; legal prohibition of abortion is appalling.
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I keep hearing that Christianity is not a religion but a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. Then that relationship is defined by a load of church dogma... but it's not a religion.
It looks like a duck and waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck... but it's not a duck.
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Someday I will stop feeling amazed at the presumptuousness, arrogance, and sheer gall of bibliolaters who promote magic and superstition while jeering at atheists' rationality.
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I am truly honored! A devout soul named Maximus (
@BigMax1054
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Any comment I could offer would dilute the irony.
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Sometimes I wish God really did exist... because he would certainly smite all the snotty, presumptuous, hate-spewing, faux-pious frauds who shout Jesus' name like a slogan while ignoring the moral teachings attributed to him.
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Theist: "What will you say when you stand before God to be judged?"
Atheist: "I'll say 'No, I didn't believe you existed, but I thought that IF you existed, you wouldn't be a sadistic vanity-driven psychopath.'"
Theist: "Well, you'll soon see just how wrong you are."
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Two questions:
1. Is the prevalence of stupidity on Twitter reflective of stupidity in the overall population? Or is Twitter just a moron-magnet?
2. Whatever the answer, what does it say about my own intelligence if I keep trying to post sane perspectives here?
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Pat Robertson was a hypocrite, a demagogue, a disgrace to rationality and faith, and a threat to America.
And yet America STILL does not recognize that democracy requires a sane and educated population, which requires mandatory secular education emphasizing critical thinking.
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Why I think America is lost:
The unholy alliance of evangelical Christianity and fascist demagogy is broadcasting a coordinated program of lies and superstition, 24/7, at full volume.
And government lacks the rationality and the civic responsibility needed to stop them.
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A theist (a Pentecostalist, no less) tweeted his disdain for atheists who lack credentials in history, theology, or philosophy.
I didn't know one must be a scholar to lack belief in ideas that lack believability AND have been a plague on the Earth.
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"You must have faith that God loves you even though he will let you suffer sickness and injury, hatred and oppression, loss and grief until you die in agony and misery... because AFTER you die, he will reward your faithfulness."
Who could resist the appeal of that message?
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Christianity in America has a long way to go before it catches up with fundamentalist Islam in lunacy... but it is trying hard to catch up.
Not all Christians or all Muslims are lunatics. But in both religions, the sane give consent-by-silence to the lunatics, so lunacy prevails.
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Perhaps the most remarkable thing about religion is how it acts like a cut-off switch for rational thought in so many otherwise rational people. Especially in America, MILLIONS of people will reverently follow any conman who waves a Bible around and cries "Lord! Lord!"
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A number of Twittangelicals are pushing the theme of "Christian masculinity" ("I am a REAL Christian man--I can bench-press 300 lbs!").
Can you imagine anything further removed from Jesus' teachings than preening and flexing before an audience?
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Today's Disconnect:
Apologist: "We cannot understand God in human terms, because he is outside of our experience as finite beings... Now let me tell you exactly what God wants from us..."
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To rightwing evangelicals, being persecuted means being ridiculed. They don't know the meaning of persecution.
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1. "I do not believe God exists"--atheist stance.
2. "I believe God does not exist"--theist version of atheist stance.
Belief is absent in 1, present in 2. But theists equate them so they can demand that atheists cite evidence for the belief in 2.
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For those who think creationists' claims here on Twitter are appallingly ignorant, look at this gem, which is on Quora: "If evolution is real, then why don't monkeys turn into people when they grow up?"
There are just no words. I am good with words, but there are just no words.
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I did something out of ignorance--not good. Out of curiosity, I attended a performance of Shen Yun performing arts troupe and was startled by 2 songs denouncing atheism and evolution. Too late, I learned that Shen Yun is a $-generating wing of the Falun Gong religious cult. ☹️
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What would we think of parents who tell their children, "You are corrupt, and you deserve to burn in eternal fire. But if you bewail your sinfulness and beg God to forgive you, he may spare you from hell..."?
Oh, wait. That IS what religious fanatics tell their children.
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A large gathering of creationists are shouting their contempt for evolution but not one of them dares write an evidence-based report refuting evolution for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal.
NOT ONE.
NOT F*CKING ONE.
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I guess it's true that you're never too old to learn. Now just a week from 78, I am still learning that every time I think I have seen the ultimate level of ignorance and arrogance among Christians, it turns out that I am wrong. There is no limit, no ultimate level.
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If the Bible is God's word, then God has confessed to vanity, jealousy, poor judgment, and fits of genocidal rage.
So if Jesus was God incarnate, his death was atonement not for our sins but for his own sins.
Yes, that is blasphemy, and it follows inexorably from bibliolatry.
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#Christians
, please explain this to me:
If lying is sinful, Christians who repent from sin should cease lying.
But some Christians lie continually (often about atheism and science), yet still claim to be saved.
Does being forgiven for a sin give license to continue that sin?
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Theist: “What is your objective basis for condemning genocide?”
Me: “What is YOURS? Bible-God commits genocide.”
“That’s not genocide.”
“It is, by definition.”
“God created us, so he can destroy us.”
“Like a brat breaking his toys because they are his to break?”
Beyond pathetic.
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#Christians
, explain this:
Bible-God wiped out whole populations and ordered his followers to kill all who worshipped false gods.
But today, God takes no action against false worship.
How can it be that immutable God acts very differently now than he did in ancient times?
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On evidence of God:
1. The existence of God is not an issue in science.
2. On non-science topics, evidence is not scientific but it is objective (e.g., source material as historical evidence).
3. There is no objective evidence of any kind relevant to the existence of God.
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Theists, please explain. God smote all kinds of wrong-believers and idolater/blasphemers in biblical times. So why am I still around despite my wrong (according to you) belief? And why are you still around despite your ceaseless idolatry and blasphemy?
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Creationists here on X howl in outrage at science.
So why doesn't one of these devout scholars write an evidence-based refutation of evolution for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal?
A Nobel Prize awaits you! Go for it!
Or just go on disgracing your own religion.
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An apology to everyone who took my "proof of God" (2 days ago) seriously. My satirical proof was too close to the actual gibberish offered by proselytizers and apologists.
In the future, I will identify satire with "/s" (I had not known about that symbol).
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It's 2023. Why is America galloping backward to the Dark Ages, an era of ignorance and superstition, fear and hatred, privation and disease?
Maybe Satan is real, and he has tricked all the right-wing evangelicals into following him while thinking they are following God...?
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