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Currently Jamie doesn’t post much that needs fact checking, he just re-posts moaning about the Welsh labour government. So I’ll keep at it if he reignites
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@JamesMelville
It’s not baffling, they are a young population, with no testing capacity, limited birth and death records, and many areas have no running water - let alone covid data.
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@JamesMelville
No, places like South Africa had some testing 435,000 per mil pop, but Burundi did just 27,386 tests per mil pop. The UK 7,628,357 tests per mil pop as a comparison. They have high excess deaths too.
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@Dominiquetaegon
His wife was 66, and was shielding during the pandemic and considered vulnerable. You are not entitled to answers about the 1500 deaths that happen daily Dominique - stop making this about you and your Twitter clicks. It’s weird.
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@JamesMelville
Hi James, as a general rule vaccination trials are not designed to assess transmission, it’s almost impossible without them being challenge trials. This was clear from the trial launch and set out in initial end points. If you read the initial trials you can see.
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Clare is one of the most disingenuous presenters of vaccine information on the platform, and relies on convincing lay people who may not understand the data. So let’s have a look at this 🧵
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Watching people with existing bias share Dr Malhotras paper makes it clear to me
1) antivaxxers do not read what they share
2) antivaxxers by and large are unable to read medical papers competently
3) if an antivaxxer hero writes anything, antivaxxers are convinced it’s true
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@TheRustler83
It’s best to look at this data where someone has understood it. Sadly you are not that person
Throughout the time series those unvaccinated had a higher age-standardised COVID-19 mortality rate than those who had had any vaccination and those who had had a third dose or booster at least 21 days ago. (6/10)
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@matthewdmarsden
Out of curiosity did you hear about coronary artery atherosclerosis in the left anterior descending artery before 2 years ago?
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@Dominiquetaegon
A search engine doesn’t decide your information, your search does. It’s about the quality of information you input, and the ability to assess what you find - not changing the search engine. What are you researching? Google scholar may be better?
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@JamesMelville
This is obvious. The vaccinated people make up the largest, oldest and most vulnerable groups. It’s like saying ‘old Americans die more than young Americans’, not exactly a revelation.
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When ‘speaking the truth’ and ‘fighting for freedom’ and having ‘open debate’, it’s really important to block everyone who corrects you to help.
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@JamesMelville
This is actually the case with any vaccine trials you look at, and indeed transmission isn’t always known about till some years later, particularly in low circulation of diseases. Primary endpoints are typically safety, and protection from serious adverse effects of the disease
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@ABridgen
I’m curious as to why your arguments are so unbalanced, and you only present very fringe opinions?
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@Dominiquetaegon
Hi Dominique, can you let me know who authored the study, and to which medical journal it was published? I’m also confused how it drew conclusions without using medical records- so if you could explain that bit for me I’d be grateful, thanks in advance
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@EssexPR
The death penalty costs more than life imprisonment, and some victims feel life in prison is a higher punishment than the death penalty. We also get it wrong - more than you think. Whole life terms - should mean life, and should be harsh though.
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@tigresseleanor
@thatsnotmine125
@Twitter
@TwitterSupport
Hello! I’m back thanks all very much. Seems it was my profile picture that got me done! Twitter appears to have stolen all my followers so if anyone can RT and follow I’d be grateful!
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@Dominiquetaegon
No he’s not telling the truth. That’s the issue. His statements aren’t backed by anything (otherwise he’d have shared that evidence), he’s reliant on somewhat gullible people to believe him is all.
‘Big pharma and WEF’ is related how exactly??
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@Dominiquetaegon
@mrmarkdolan
But they aren’t really talking about little colds. They are talking about flu, RSV, covid, and Strep. No one is telling you to stay in bed either. Advice has always been to stay home with flu or scarlet fever, that’s not new. You don’t have to do anything now.
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These are extremely serious allegations levied by Mr Bridgen against
@RishiSunak
@HoCPress
@HoCStandards
@SteveBarclay
@BBCNews
Please RT, tag anyone relevant. This must be investigated, if false he must be sacked.
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@JamesMelville
However, an effect on transmission is assumed because that’s how vaccines work, indeed we now know that transmission was impacted because likelihood of being infected was significantly reduced.
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I have wondered over the course of the pandemic what makes people with limited understanding of subjects profess themselves to be experts. Then this morning I saw a thread summing it up: ‘what does my career have to do with my opinion’, the answer is really everything
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@robertopaulos85
@ClareCraigPath
Perhaps set out an objection to the thread rather than asking yourself a pointless question via Twitter.
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@Dominiquetaegon
You are reading these out as if they are factually confirmed incidents, without doing a single piece of due diligence. Do you see an issue in that approach?
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@JamesMelville
He had cardiomegaly on autopsy and no evidence the vaccines were responsible.
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Clare shows she is unable to present any scientific arguments, and her responses in the thread are child like and certainly highly unprofessional.
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@drjanaway
I think as well the question is on the form for everyone so age, fertility, gender etc don’t cause a range of forms to be needed. 1 form, 1 set of answers.
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@Dominiquetaegon
Or the perfect example of how marketing works - outrage the right people, and you’re all over Twitter in seconds. The sex pistols, Freddie Mercury, David Bowie, Grace Jones - they all exploited people like yourself, and you fall for it every single time.
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@jennyrickson
@S84Ed
It doesn’t need justification. It’ll also be asked to older women and people who’ve had a hysterectomy. Lots of other questions won’t apply either. The point is one of safety. You ask everyone, you are 100% safe.
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@mikegalsworthy
Does having a British wife automatically qualify you for residency in the UK?
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The authors point out that whilst the vaccination group had a small raised risk of the clots discussed, those with covid infection have a significantly higher risk than the vaccine group. So risk benefit analysis still supports vaccination.
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@beverleyturner
Coming from someone who is terrified of alerts on their phone, this is a somewhat ironic post. Your position has always been people should be allowed to make their own choices, she has, that should be enough for you.
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@Dominiquetaegon
I’m not sure you’ve understood how vaccine trials work?
@JamesMelville
Hi James, as a general rule vaccination trials are not designed to assess transmission, it’s almost impossible without them being challenge trials. This was clear from the trial launch and set out in initial end points. If you read the initial trials you can see.
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So today Jamie is just having a moan.
Why were clothes aisles closed off or ‘stay local’ policy invoked?
It’s all about reducing person to person contact. Less time in a shop, less times filling a car, less breakdown services called,less virus spread from one town to another
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@JuliaHB1
Sure, Laith Ashley as an example. But you could just Google that if your question were genuine.
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@gemmathebyrne
@DrHoenderkamp
I agree, she essentially was saying she didn’t know how to curtsey when she met the queen, and inadvertently was way too over the top, and felt a bit embarrassed. I’d also question a little the concept of husbands ‘allowing’ their wives to do things!?
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@EssexPR
Hi Adam, it has nothing to do with lockdowns. The picture has been an increase in cases for some years now. You’re entirely wrong about this (and babies weren’t affected since lockdowns were 18months ago)
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This is one of Jamie’s strangest statements to date
The MHRA collect data on potential vaccine injuries, that are reported through the yellow card system. Other surveillance is done by manufacturers via phase 4 of their trial.
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The pandemic has brought forward a whole host of people who through sheer arrogance and self belief, think their incorrect opinion counts in a discussion where they have no qualifications or experience. That it’s somehow on even footing with facts.
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This is frankly a disgrace
I think this is one for
@TwitterSafety
. A statistics person, should not under any circumstances, be offering medical advice, in direct conflict given by specialists. This really isn’t acceptable.
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@beverleyturner
@guardian
@BBC
Are you saying you believe there will be more vaccine harms than covid harms?
Do you have the data he keeps referring to? I’ve asked him a number of times, but he can’t provide it.
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Clare had first suggested you ignore the study, and it’s conclusions, and simply look at the raw data. Why is this an issue? In studies cohorts are rarely evenly matched. So to fairly compare groups, adjustments are made to account for these differences
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So when talking about vaccines, he’ll offer mortality stats as a rationale for not vaccinating, this demonstrates he doesn’t have an understanding of vaccine strategy.
Career, qualifications, expertise, experience are all paramount in understanding the very complex covid topic
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The next mistake she makes, is to suggest comparing against baseline to help you understand risk. But with most likely to become covid infected, the risk of these clots post infection is what you are after
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Imagine patients with pneumonia- the antibiotic treated group would have higher incidence of anaphylaxis, but an untreated group a higher incidence of sepsis, death, hypoxia and hospital admission etc.
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@SoniaPoulton
You said you aren’t an antivaxxer, but you are pleased a study showed diminished confidence in all types of vaccines? That seems at odds with the position of ‘not antivaxxer’
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In this instance it is things like age and BMI, as these directly affect risk. It’s difficult to adjust for all risk (smoking, contraceptive pill, recent surgery, activity level, flying) etc.
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@DrHoenderkamp
I believe she was mocking herself, at least that was my view when watching the documentary?
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Jamie Jenkins likes a fact check, so let’s fact check the fact checker
We’ll start with an easy one. Here Jamie quite simply makes up something Mr Drakeford never said, then fact checks the made up fact
‘In hospital with covid’ means just that. Positive test in a hospital bed
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@AllisonPearson
Over 100 dead from covid. Why would they once have fought off invasive strep? What caused the 2016 and 2018 peaks? No kids were isolating for 2 years. I feel like you haven’t read much about this at all Allison.
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@thesassymicrobe
@ABridgen
@MailOnline
It’s good people like him and Malhotra are so bad at spotting fakes, shows a complete lack of due diligence or ability to recognise true and accurate information.
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@juneslater17
Hi June. Covid 19 is the disease not the virus, the PCR is extremely accurate at detecting sars cov 2, and doesn’t get ‘mixed up’. Viruses aren’t alive so can’t be dead.
@TakethatCt
can explain the detail of PCR if you’re interested?
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@EssexPR
And yet South Africa miscounted their covid deaths by tens of thousands, and we saw many deaths and hospitalisations from omicron. Whitty never said we were all in danger of dying either. So when remembering, remember accurately.
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@Dominiquetaegon
This is a bold statement Dominique, so I think you should attach some sort of data or evidence that supports your idea of ‘significant risk’ and ‘little benefit’. Thank you.
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It’s also about fairness. If clothing retailers couldn’t open, supermarkets would profit from the other retailers loss
Jamie offers no mobility data, & how this did or didn’t impact spread
❌We’re rating this generally pointless, with limited understanding of reducing contacts
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@matthewdmarsden
Yes. But you do not. You live on Twitter, where you think your following of extremists and bots represent real life. I get it matthew, your career stalled, and a group of unpopular celebs found fame in conspiracy and anti vaccine rhetoric, and now you are entrenched
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So Mark uses this chart of Jamie’s to try and suggest we shouldn’t vaccinate kids against covid.
Unwittingly he demonstrates the reverse
Let’s think about things we consider serious for children, and readily vaccinate
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@DrAseemMalhotra
@ABridgen
@RWMaloneMD
@drcole12
Will you share this evidence? It just seems like a constant ego trip for you at this point.
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@Dominiquetaegon
Why are you not believing the hundreds and hundreds of other doctors and scientists though Dominique. You know the ones actually involved in the research?
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@Dominiquetaegon
He didn’t ‘contract heart disease’ he had myocarditis, and he didn’t inject himself, by force or otherwise. It’s not a gene therapy. Try to be factually accurate.
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This woman seems to be suggesting a campaign aimed at vaccination for mainly developing countries is a bad idea? I don’t understand, surely everyone thinks vaccines for TB, polio and so on are positive?!
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@Dominiquetaegon
You care when it suits? Oppression, human rights issues and so on are something to care about- inside or outside of your country. We don’t just close our eyes to poor treatment of humans in other nations.
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So one of the accounts that constantly heaps the shittiest pile ons to PAs possible, now wants others to be kind? Are these people actually for real? Jesus, the lack of personal insight is astounding.
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@Dominiquetaegon
What has led you to become an antivaxxer? Is it that you don’t understand the information -plenty of people can help if that’s the case?
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@JamesMelville
Do you feel you’ve been someone who’s been driving positive messaging through the pandemic? For example for about 14months we’ve been out of restrictions, but I note you still tweet about them quite a lot?
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Jamie - whilst have qualifications in statistical analysis, has none in climate science, or medicine, or public health strategies, or economics. He often doesn’t bring forward the correct stats to make the relevant arguments.
You don’t know, what you don’t know
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Poor old Jamie got this one really wrong:
The study he referred to isn’t a ‘mask’ study. It’s a ‘piece of cloth’ study
It didn’t look at people and if virus transmitted to other people whilst wearing (or not wearing) masks
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These guys have shared an extended version even less convincing than the first. I’m not sure why you’d do that.
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@EssexPR
The PHE 28 day data is not classed as covid deaths - it’s a raw data set to give initial numbers. Death certificate (ons) are those counted as covid deaths. Through most of the pandemic they correlated closely, up until omicron, with the PHE number typically undercounting
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@EssexPR
I do wonder who would have sent their kids to school with hundreds of people dying daily of a poorly understood infection?
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@matthewdmarsden
It’s sort of sad really. Everyone I know in the real world had their covid vaccines, their flu vaccines wheee eligible, and continue to vaccinate their kids. I know you’re trying your hardest to drive vaccine suspicion, but it’s simply a minority, poorly educated idea.
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@talkRADIO
@TVKev
@ClareCraigPath
Hi
@TVKev
and
@ClareCraigPath
and
@talkRADIO
I notice a vast number of errors in Clare’s interview. Might I suggest reading the below and becoming more informed, and also inviting an expert on the show?
So Mark uses this chart of Jamie’s to try and suggest we shouldn’t vaccinate kids against covid.
Unwittingly he demonstrates the reverse
Let’s think about things we consider serious for children, and readily vaccinate
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@KateShemirani
You are using global deaths against your memory of 1 ED in a 5 year period, when you wouldn’t have worked every shift in resus? Seems a little bizarre.
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In this instance neither person is really correct. Jamie implies these 347 deaths are coincidental to a positive test, and although explains in further tweets, his headline tweet is unclear.
@doctor_oxford
would also be wrong to say these were all primarily covid deaths.
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@Dr_Bry_So_Fly
Can you explain the mechanics of retinal detachment from vaccination? Seems a highly unlikely linked effect?
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@Dominiquetaegon
@ChildrensHD
@ArchieTitchener
Does it trouble you she hasn’t understood what 15 minute cities are?
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@LeilaniDowding
Hi Leilani, your take on this is rather confused.
This is the clinical trial involving to ~40,000 people, it obviously cannot test transmission, and concluded in Nov 2020 to ensure vaccines were safe to roll out and prevented serious illness 1/2
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We’re gonna rate Jamie’s fact check
❌completely fabricated
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@JamesMelville
Hi James - we went through this yesterday. The original trial over two years ago told you secondary attack wasn’t looked at, it’s inferred because primary infections were reduced, in addition subsequent data showed impact in transmission.
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@beverleyturner
@GBNEWS
this is the opposite of your theory, that social distancing temporarily dampened an upward trend. There is data to support that.
@AMarkWalker
pointing this out 2 years ago.
@jneill
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-Most people wear several layer masks
-Particles vary in size
-Other factors like electrostatic not studied
-Factors like redirecting or slowing particles not studied
❌We’re rating this entirely misleading. Jamie mistakes a physics study for a mask/infection study
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@beverleyturner
So people go for these tests despite being asymptomatic? Years after infection with a mild or symptomless virus that can later cause cancer? A mild or asymptomatic virus you can get vaccinated against? How very, very bizarre.
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@beverleyturner
@MailOnline
Ignored what warning? We don’t stop antibiotics because people are allergic to penicillin, if you go to sainsburys now - you’ll find nuts on the shelf. It just means administration with caution if a history of anaphylaxis!
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Unsurprisingly perhaps there are some enormous misunderstandings of why we vaccinate populations from Jamie. Let’s first deal with his general misunderstanding of mortality data.
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@Dominiquetaegon
this guy had a rugby injury - then committed suicide. What’s actually wrong with these people??
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No, this does not mean ‘not linked to covid’ it means current covid infection is not the direct cause. It may mean covid weakened an organ or function of your body - we know for example covid damages heart, lung, brain, clotting function and so on.
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@JamesMelville
Tucker Carlson isn’t really known for raising serious questions.
@VikiLovesFACS
has posted about this a number of times today, addressing the misinformation contained within. Cheers.
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@LostDazes
@DrCarolineMWF
To me the BMA seem to be pursuing a vanity project, to whip up their members into a frenzy, to target a small minority of healthcare workers. This is to conceal their abject failure to improve wages, working conditions, and protection of members during the pandemic
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