All those credentials don't make her less boring. If Marvel truly believed she is the hottest thing on her own then she would not be Phoenix every 5 minutes.
The x writer saying that a single stark sentinel almost kiIIed this entire x-men roster then you have the avengers handling a bunch of them quite easily recently
- She's in almost every opening
- She was talking about how Scott was the only reason she didn't left to wander the cosmos
- She'll be getting a book about wandering the cosmos
I fear Jean will be leaving us by the end of the season
#XMen97
#XSpoilers
So Mother Righteous spent a century exploring magic, only to discover that it was not powerful enough to make her a dominion. Mutants Power > Magic. 1/3
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We knew that Phoenix would be the springboard for a reboot of Marvel's cosmos line. Now we know we might be getting a cosmic big event similar to ANNIHILATION.
Note that cosmos is now Jean/Phoenix's domain, and all cosmic predators must face her wrath!
#Xspoilers
A cycle of paradoxes that spans both inside and outside of all time space: How did the Phoenix begin, and how did Jean and the Phoenix become Jean/Phoenix
When Wanda's book sold for more than 360 days, it still sold far less than Jean's book sold for 4 days. Why on earth would Wanda stans have the courage to put their fav in competition with Jean Grey? 😭
A solo book with cosmos as its stage is what all stans want, and Jean stans are no exception.
We've all dreamed of a book like this, and now we've got it.
#XSpoilers
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When the phoenix fell and the light dimmed, the darkness that had been banished began to come back...
However a goddess, the Phoenix's best sister, will watch over her until she awakens.
People say Jean died a long time ago... But the truth is that even during Jean's death, her influence continued to guide the X-Men. She was the one who saved mutants from "No More Mutant". Even that school was named after her.
Remember when the X-Men lost and Jean died by a robot. Mind you those sentinels were not even as good as Stark Sentinels. Here we have Wanda alone 😂
Phoenix this and Phoenix that, can't even solo a robot.
#Xspoilers
Mutants are connected to the White Hot Room in a primal way. In the subsequent story, we learned that the Phoenix was ignited with Hope as the flame, and the souls of all mutants from any dimension as the initial fuel.
#Xspoilers
Jean Grey is dying, the phoenix is dying, the White Hot Room is dying.
White becomes dark, hot becomes cold.
When the fire dies down and the light disappears, some dark forces invade.
#Xspoilers
The light woman Jean met in CXM, we used to think was the Phoenix. But Marvel Snap has revealed that the light woman is the White Hot Room itself. 1/3
#Xspoilers
You'll need to revisit Jean Grey
#4
before reading Immortal X-Men
#18
to learn that the real Jean Grey and the Phoenix have left and are ready to face the ultimate crisis. And in this unconscious body, only part of the Phoenix Force remains.
I love this scene where every mutant that has ever existed in every dimension forms a giant Jean/Phoenix. Every mutant is a part of Phoenix, a part of Jean Grey.
Jean/Phoenix's job is to ensure that the Omniverse/ abstract entities can cycle between life, death and rebirth. In the grand scheme of things, she's not wrong. Even the death she brings is part of a natural cycle that is necessary for the Omniverse itself.
#XSpoilers
A thread about the times Jean has paid for her tragic mistakes as Dark Phoenix.
1. In Classic X-Men 43, Jean builds the towers in the afterlife (White Hot Room) for the souls of her victims and re-lives their deaths from their perspectives.
#xmen
#xspoilers
#jeangrey
#phoenix
Those non-linear beings outside of time and space, those unknown cosmic predators are aware of the fact that the multiverse/time and space is the domain of the Phoenix, and to invade here means to bear the wrath of the Phoenix.
Look at the friendship these three women display in the books. Why do Jean's sisters make us angry? Oh, my God, Wanda stans, I know you only treat other people with malice, but please don't assume that everyone is just like you.
So while Jean is able to free herself from the nightmare on her own and kick his ass, Wanda is left to be kicked out of the nightmare without being able to fight back? Lmao
When they actually fight him i guess? why are y'all so defensive when i just brought up what a writer did there...
and i already answered this when you were comparing the avengers with ur fav (as usual), trying downplay them without context 🥱
You get to pick one…ONE…favorite X-man.
Not the best, necessarily, not the most popular, possibly.
Just your one favorite X-Man.
Who do you choose?
#MyOneXMan
It's 2024 and people are still debating whether Jean Grey is a female god... Get a job. That title never meant anything to her.
Jean Grey is literally Jesus. Dominions equal in power to the grandest mythical godheads can only be eaten by her as snacks.
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@caijuandavision
Jean is the first cosmic heroine, the first heroine to become the narrative center of the team's story, and she has the greatest female superhero story in history. She drove sales of the X-Men to the top. What are you talking about?
A wide-ranging conversation with
@kierongillen
about X-Men Forever, Mister Sinister, Engima (and how that relates to Defenders Beyond), and so much more. PLUS, an exclusive preview of X-Men: Forever
#1
(please share link if sharing artwork!)
#XSpoilers
It looks like Genesis and Storm will be opposing each other in Ewing's plans.I have an idea that they have similar powers, they are both Omega level natural energy/elemental manipulators.
@Seagull_Comics
Jean, no doubt. She is the first female superhero to replace the male hero at the center of the narrative. She is also the first cosmic level female superhero. Dark Phoenix Saga is one of the greatest superhero comic book stories and the most influential female-led event.
#XSpoilers
In Jean Grey
#4
, Exodus describes the White Hot Room as Tiphareth form the Kabbalah. It was formalized by Al Ewing in Defender Beyonder. According to Ewing himself, it was based on Claremont's original idea in UXM.
Of course, this is hard to understand for someone who likes a little witch who's still threatened with death at any moment. But remember, you need to thank Jean and her daughter, or your favorite will be as brainless as her stans after her last resurrection
Previews has already posted the news that Phoenix
#1
sold out and is going to a 2nd printing... and with a
@JoeQuesada
cover! The 2nd printing will be out August 28. 🔥🔥
#Xspoilers
One thing Jean stans have to thank Al Ewing for is that he has more than once established the essence of the Phoenix - life, death, rebirth... It is all of these concepts.
You can cry all you want, but you need to know 1. Phoenix is Jean's code name, just like Scarlet Witch is Wanda's code name.
2.Wanda's ongoing was changed to mini due to failed sales, and Jean got what she deserved due to successful sales
So famous that they couldn't use thr name Jean Grey. 😂😂😂
Had to lean on Phoenix because without it she is just a boring and horrible character who just destroys whichever character she touches
@HadariYao_
You need to learn the basic skills of reading. Phoenix /WHR is the heart of Kabbalah, the place where ideas are turned into stories. It is the origin of stories, just as HOI is the origin of ideas.
Never Queen needs to use Phoenix's fire to create reality/story.
Even if Jean's consciousness has left this body, even if there is only a tiny bit of Phoenix Force left in her body, her blood is still strong enough to make Mother Righteous a dominion and go beyond creation. 3/3
#XSpoilers
There is a path in the Waiting Room that leads to the White Hot Room, symbolized by Death. Because the abstract entity Death is at the edge of White Hot Room, where the afterlife ends. Where all life finally returns.
So Wanda basically indirectly helped save the mutants again by creating the waiting room, if she hadn't created it, those mutant souls would have never get in there and Phoenix wouldn't have been able to use the mutant souls in the WR to bolster herself
Yin yang sisters kinda
#Xspoliers
More recently, Jean Grey solo and immortal X-Men have repeatedly emphasized that the White Hot Room is a field where ideas become reality. Louise also suggests that Jean may have created the Phoenix. 3/3
#XSpoilers
When Hope uses her blood (and perhaps all mutants will give a little of their own) to write at the heart of the White Hot Room the words
Our God will rise.
She will defeat Enigma.
She will save us all.
Ewing has proven that the Phoenix's oppositional forces are plural, and that there is no chaos magic in them.
Even if Chaos Magic is on this list, it's only a part of it, which is further proof that the true Phoenix is far larger than Chaos Magic.
idk why y’all cry about it all the time it’s been stated in the canon comic universe that chaos magic and phoenix is equal powers and we are getting more feats with new Scarlet Witch solo book she’s going to fight with Griever a fucking multiversal abstract being
#Xspoilers
(1) Engima= AI god.
(2) TOAA= creators of comics, White Hot Room/Phoenix= white paper, ink, etc., tools for creating comics.
So, the whole Outside system should be a metaphor for the normal comic creation process and system.
We know that All-Father Thor and Darkhold Wanda are equal in power to Nightmare. They were easily defeated by him because they were in his realm. It's so sad, if out of his realm, even if they can't finish him off as easily as Jean Grey without Phoenix Force, they can get a draw.
About Phoenix artist being exposed for tracing
1 - So far he's using artwork from books published by Marvel so legally it's ok and editors probably know what he's doing
2 - If you need to compose simple panels like this with someone's art, you're not fit for this job
#XSpoilers
"Jean needs/doesn't need the Phoenix" is a pointless debate... The important thing is that the phoenix is a part of her, something that belongs to her. It would be weird to deprive her of something she should have on the grounds that she doesn't need it.
Dead X-Men reiterates, M'kraan Crystal is the Nexus of Realities itself. The White Hot Room exists inside it.
It fits with what Al Ewing wrote, the White Hot Room exists both outside our cosmos…and at the heart of it.
@_NearlyEnough
Jean creates Phoenix- Phoenix chooses Jean-Jean creates Phoenix - Phoenix chooses Jean-Jean creates Phoenix…This is the Mother-me cycle. No beginning, no end. I'm sorry it's beyond your comprehension.
@WandaChaoss
What are you talking about? Moira is a robot, of course a telepath can't notice her. And Wanda is unable to use magic because of a robot's magnetic field interference.
that's Jason Aaron fucking business the entire comic book community knows he has a Phoenix fetish and THOR never needed ANYTHING from X-Men lore to prop him up or to tell a story he has Norse Mythology or his office create shit from scratch you X fans are fucking delusional.
It's crazy... For a book that sells so much, doesn't it deserve better artists? I need X-Office to find us a new artist as soon as possible!
#Xspoilers
I don't know the forces behind this but it's completely unnaceptable. If it's editorial for cheapness and time, cut it out and let the dude work. If it's not, there's PLENTY of amazing professionals out there wanting an opportunity
#XSpoilers
#XMen
When death is only one aspect of her power, and the abstract entity named Death works as a construction worker in her home, everything you say only reveals your ignorance.
The Griever is just one aspect of Eternity, a low-level abstract entity that cannot traverse different realities by her own power. Do you think she really can be compared with the phoenix that can cause Eternity itself to kneel before it?
Rise Of The Powers Of X
#5
is
#133
on the Kindle Store, which is pretty amazing for a superhero comic
The book also ranked
#1
on several superhero-related lists
Let's give it up for this book and the other nine that made it into the top 10 of Superhero Graphic Novels!
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