Rauðgrani ᚱᛆᚢᚦᚴᚱᛆᚿᛁ
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Human Sacrifice as a Biblical Practice
Many will tell you that the Israelites did not practice human sacrifice to Yahweh. The evidence is to the contrary. There is a bias toward this claim because our view of that ancient people is colored by the biases of Abrahamic claims.
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Hey kids indigenous societies were a lot more complex and cooler than you were taught. After we send the girls out of the room we're going to talk about men's secret societies and warrior cults. No basket weaving here.
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The meme is what Romans themselves believed about human societies. You'll find it throughout ancient literature and in other writers like Ibn Khaldun.
Besides, every pre modern society was fascist.
Spend much time online and you'll find a bunch of bigots, fascists and even literal Nazis who idolise the ancient world. And yet very rarely is their image of that world based on truth. This one below is a classic example (spoilered)
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I have read the Gita and own multiple commentaries, and looking through them I never encountered the word Jew, genocide, nazi, or anything related.
Slavoj Žižek, the most prominent communist philosopher in the world currently, calls Bhagavad Gita "one of the most obscene disgusting sacred books" and blames Bhagavad Gita for Nazi Heinrich Himmler allegedly using it to justify genocide of Jews
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14th century manuscript page depicting the destruction of Buddha statues by a Muslim.
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Shrine to Indra in Thailand. Indra being the vedic God associated with storms, clouds, and rain. Wielder of the vajra, slayer of asuras.
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One reason I started paying attention to India today(not just old Hinduism) is that Hindus are just about the only people outside of white people that the establishment wants to forbid an identity. And when you dig into it, savarna Hindus especially.
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Entire cities saw Buddha do miracles and he regularly flew up to heaven to talk with deities and Brahma. It's all in the Buddhist scriptures.
The Resurrection of Jesus is irrefutable.
- 500 disciples saw him
- He was touched and heard.
- Fulfilled OT prophecies
- Jesus predicted His resurrection
- Ate with the Apostles
There's more eyewitness verification than any other ancient event or person.
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A Migration Period pendant found in Germany. Currently in the Archaeological Museum of Lower Bavaria.
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The Norse and Greek deities, the big name ones at the top of the pantheon anyway, are never said to be local or restricted. Homer for example is a clear religious universalist. Zeus is king everywhere not just in Greece. Odin is Fildardróttinn, not ruler of this or that country
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I don't usually lower myself to this discourse anymore.
But I couldn't let this one go by. Sacrificed an infant every year? What a lie. Where did they pull that one from? Same place as they do most things, their asses.
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If you actually understand the Bible you'll be a pagan. Not a joke at all.
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I notice a pattern of these religions all hating on music, especially among clerics.
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Waheguru is abstract, defined as omnipresent, omnipotent, eternal, formless, and all that.
Jewish demonology is something at the center of all the abrahamic religions, to the point I suspect they employed actual evil spirits to conjure up miracles.
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Again, this is a way to avoid the necessary work. If white men can't keep white women in line they won't keep Latinas or Asians in line either. Do you really think a Mexican woman is going to keep being a tradwife if she's surrounded by feminism and a culture that promotes it?
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I don't talk too much about my own ritual doings, but here is the aftermath of offerings for the winter full moon. One candle was still going even after hours and when it had gotten dark out. Chickens came later and ate some of the bread I had baked, black ones too. Good omen.
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The prevalence of forgery in Christianity and Judaism should destroy their credibility. It has always amazed me that people could knowingly forge texts to use as proof. Christians forged letters back and forth between Seneca and Paul. Even forged letters of Jesus.
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Depends on what you mean by ancient Rome. Under their oldest laws adultery was punished by death, as was disrespecting one's parents. Prostitution didn't exist and compelling one's wife to do so was a death penalty for the husband.
Why do some on the Dissident Right view ancient Rome so positively?
It had rampant divorce, adultery, infanticide, pederasty, idol worship, temple prostitution, sex slavery, and castration.
Sounds pretty bad to me TBH.
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This is a bad omen for London. Sacrifice should be made and divination be done.
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That was the Vedic view not just a European one. Buddhists even modified vedic myths to suit a newly made up pacifism and vegetarianism. Indra, Purandara, destroyer of cities, slayer of Dasyus, patron God of warriors and raiders, taken over by both Jains and Buddhists
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In Orkney, the Christians took a bunch of children as hostages to ensure conversion and then refused to return them. At Wight, they killed the entire population to replace them with Christians.
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This meme here is not entirely wrong but too exaggerated. The pagan value of loyalty for example. Loyalty to a lord or commander or other authority figure. Very important, and it absolutely didn't detract from someone to not be at the top.
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Bushido is very akin to what you find in the Icelandic sagas with a more emphasis on loyalty to a lord(depends on the time period). Custom and law actually required vengeance for certain things. You shall not live under the same sky as the man who slew your father.
Japan VS India
Some cultures are superior to others.
India is pagan while Japan operates on Bushido similar to Christian values.
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Thor is depicted as throwing Mjolnir because it is the thunderbolt. Just like Zeus is depicted with. I've been near a tree hit by lightning, it really is like some projectile hit the tree and smashed it apart. But you see nothing, it returned to Thor's hand.
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The Christian narrative is that literally everything else is a demonic trick. Including almost every culture to ever exist before and since the Jews
Part of me has always found what little we know about pre-Christian Germanic religions intensely interesting, but now after 2 days of deal with the cartoon twitter neo-pagans (to say nothing of the ChRiStiAnIty Is A JeWisH TriCk brigade) I am ready to put on hair shirt and march
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How the hell someone can be a Buddhist liberal I'll never know. It's many things but Buddhism is also extremely illiberal. Same with the Hindu religions yoga comes out of.
I used to teach yoga, practice buddhist meditation, and study the stoics and taoists. I was vegan. I was a liberal.
When I became a Christian, I gathered every statue, mala bead, incense, etc and threw it in a fire as I read Isaiah 30:19-26 aloud.
“And you will defile your
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I'm not an Indian but seeing that mosque destroyed and the fury of that Hindu crowd made me think that not all energy is yet drained out of people. There's still faith in the world after all.
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I'd like to retell some stories of war leaders ruling by divine charisma and inspired by the berserk spirit entering into them. Fierce and brutal men, leading a kingdom and a koryos of young men. You may have heard these stories before and you may not know them.
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There aren't any such sources. There's a few second century mentions of a sect, that's about it. And an obvious interpolation in Josephus. The more one looks into it the more vague and contradictory it gets. The gospels don't even agree on where Jesus was born.
Jesus was referenced by 4x as many contemporary sources as Tiberius Caesar, the emperor of Rome at that time. That's like a 19th century carpenter from Des Moines being written about more than Abraham Lincoln.
Yet, people in 2023 still claim He never existed.
Let that sink in.
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I see people horrified at this, but I see what needs to be done in miniature. We must smash their idols and burn their books without mercy as soon as it's practical to so. That's why I praised the Hindus that destroyed Babri and I enjoy Varg's uncompromising position.
Allahu akbar‼️
This African village destroyed the idol they had been worshipping after they accepted Islam ❤️☝️
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The old religion didn't borrow the organization of the state. The state was an outgrowth of religion in every respect. The state existed for the sake of religion, at first there was no concept of political power that wasn't religious. Kings and magistrates were priests
The evolution of Roman polytheism towards a concept similar to that of Hinduism's Brahman by the Neoplatonists, & how Christianity adopted & superseded Neoplatonism in the Mediterranean.
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@streamgazer
What is this bizarre thinking? Sounds like there's literally nothing complain about.
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Old Nietzsche himself wrote a lot on the viciousness and cruelty inherent in slave morality. The overriding desire is for revenge, to defile everything those with power consider good and noble. Communism is a great modern example of this.
Usually people that complain of persecution everywhere are far more vicious than warriors. That's the thing. They will cringe and pretend deference and meekness unless they can find an easy target. Slave minded people are very cruel. Even more than robbers and pirates.
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No Bible movie ever shows things like the israelites slaughtering the Midianites men and women and babies all (people akin to them and who had sheltered Moses) and enslaving the virgin girls(32 for Yahweh). Or the Israelites dragging off captives as slaves to be apportioned off.
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The Vedas enshrined ancient knowledge of rituals and worldview and poetry that are relevant to us. They even talk about constructing a burial mound.
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The catholic ever schemes, always plots. It's an accurate portrayal of the Jesuits.
Shogun, a typical Hollywood series that paints Catholics as villains
Jesuits and Japanese Catholic converts are portrayed as sectarian thugs that must be destroyed. Insane considering the REAL story is the exact opposite
Japanese Catholics faced brutal persecution for centuries
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This is a common subversive tactic and ironic coming from Christians who have constantly changed practices and doctrines.
Ritual is at bottom practical. Anyone with real knowledge of it knows this.
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What gets me is we know more of places Homer lists out in Greece but and we keep confirming various odds and ends but Israel's largely fake history takes the spotlight while everyone else's real stuff gets ignored.
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Vote as if cannibals are boiling water to cook you in.
Vote as if you're a Boer farmer whose family will get raped and tortured to death without constant security.
Vote as if you're petit bourgeois and Marxist lumpenproles want to take all your shit and leave you in
a ditch.
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Not really. Iran is Shia mainly because a Shia religious order took over, became a dynastic state, and aggressively promoted Shiism. Didn't just randomly grow over time. If a Zoroastrian sect could do this in 2 centuries you'd have that.
Neo-Zoroastrianism is a LARP and goes nowhere for the following reasons:
1) Traditions have to emerge and live organically. Zoroastrianism as a state religion in Iran is long gone and is not coming back. The direction is overwhelmingly toward secularism. People have little
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Early Roman imperial era, part of a large hoard found buried in Germany, well outside the Roman border.
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Christian conversion was usually government. May as well tell people to pay taxes.
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Secret Mithraists in medieval Italy.
One of the big mysteries of Medieval Art: how a Roman god apparently forgotten in the 4-5th century AD appears on a 13th century fresco in the Aula Gotica of the S. Coronati church in Rome?
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Christianity didn't even exist 2000 years ago. Little proof of it materially until the 3rd century, when it was a set of sects with disparate beliefs. Conversions to it were later than that. 11th century, 14th century, 17th century, that isn't 2000 years.
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Thor's hammer pendant found at Rømersdal, Denmark. 10th century.
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Israel is so vague in the archeological record that a hint or a word that resembles it on some artifact is immediately seized on. The earliest possibly a mention is on an Egyptian stele listing out foreign groups they defeated. They sometimes call it the Israel stele.
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I have read a lot of Christian commentaries and apologetics. No amount of sophistry is going to make me think that is not a sacrifice. If anyone else but the Hebrews took a group of men to a "hill of god" to kill them so it would end a famine, it would be called human sacrifice.
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Civilization is built on violence and exploitation, inherently. If you wish to flee from it into nature you only find more of the same there, and more naked and ruthless at that. There isn't a choice between options and if you want to claim the world is wrong, you hate life.
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This is why I think the future of leftism is Christian.
Regular progressives never understood evolution. They liked it because they thought the fact that we "came from monkeys" knocked humans down a peg, which they're always game for, and because it annoyed conservatives, but in practice they reject everything they learn about it.
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To me the most shocking thing about John Brown isn't his violence. It's standard fare for that type of war, I expect in the near future people will become accustomed to it again. What shocked me is that he took a look at blacks and concluded it was worth killing whites for them
The TRUTH about John Brown, the “Butcher of Pottawatomie”.
A thread 🧵:
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Koreans have a history of being whatever some other culture wants. They went hard-core on being Chinese before this.
BTW, why did Christianity “take” well with Koreans but not Japanese, Chinese, etc
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This is why I don't like it when people are soft on the Christians. There's no compromise.
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Buddhist temple in Thailand. Thus I refute it.
@Christcucks2
Cathedrals in Japan, Korea, Thailand, and Vietnam, all built by the native inhabitants. None of these countries have ever had a European population close to 1%. Cope harder
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If you were a Tibetan Buddhist that long you'd know that Dakinis are said to be dangerous and fierce, and yes also flesh eating. I don't know how it'd come as a big shock that all that stuff turned out to be correct.
@Jay_D007
I was a Tibetan Buddhist for 40 years. From the start I dreamt of entities called “Dakini’s”. At first they seemed benevolent, but over the years they appeared more aggressive. Two years before I converted to the EOC I had a terrifying dream where they threatened to devour me.
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Moloch was never a thing, it was Yahweh who was getting those sacrifices as the Bible itself admits at times. The mlk was a title sometimes and also a type of sacrifice.
“If you think people engaging in folk customs that they have been doing for centuries, and keeping their distinct cultural identity is bad, because Moloch looks scary, you’re an idiot, and culturally illiterate.”
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I have heard several such stories including one who used to be a fundamentalist evangelical and another who used to be catholic.
Well kiddo. Sorry to break this to you but the god of the Hebrews was actually spiritual parasite who only ever answered to his chosen few sand tribes who agreed to mutalate their peepee in return for a modicum of free will.
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Norsemen worshiping their gods, from a medieval manuscript. Depicts Ragnar and his sons.
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I can show you around and point out the most eugenic specimens I know. A meth addict I grew up with has 10 kids by now, by 6 women. And he doesn't even have to support them because he's in jail for robbing a liquor store while he was fucked up on crack.
You haven't earned the right to even *consider* supporting Eugenics unless girls actually like you
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It's Judaism that believes in a messiah. Without that christ is a meaningless term. As are things like redemption(meaning to buy back,a Jewish obsession) and the entire idea of Israel(the holy land to me is where my grandparents and ancestors are buried)
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Outdoor offering to Odin. This was an unscheduled voluntary offering.
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That blue orb down there is the entire world, heavens and all.
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I was completely taken aback by people mocking it because ritual is the foundation of religion. Even belief isn't enough on its own. Especially pagans...sacrifice is foundational.
Hard to say who gets more triggered upon seeing pictures of altars, practice and rituals; e-Christians or McViking playgans.
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The discourse about how patriarchal racist varna Hindus(especially brahmins) are to be blamed for everything is just about identical to "straight white men" stuff here. This is rarely paid attention to in right wing circles.
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And people wonder why I have such contempt for most whites.
Show me a black that'd hit his father for the sake of a white kid. You won't find that because he ain't got a father around anyway.
Kid punches his father out for use of racial slur towards his friend. Instant karma.
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And then neither happens. Instead both Christian and atheist find themselves as starving and homeless ghosts because they didn't do funeral rites or provide offerings to the dead. So you'd better believe what I say.
Pascal’s Wager used to keep me up at night when I used to be an atheist.
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Alexander the Great makes divs(demons) build the wall that separates Gog and Magog from the rest of the world.
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Because tradition is inconvenient. If it were completely convenient it would have to be contrived.
I can't think of any time the gods cheated someone out of something owed. Not even Loki and he's usually not to be trusted.
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Revenge is really a lot harder than letting go or forgiving. It's easy for most to let go even if out of realization that revenge is hard or near impossible. We see peppe forgive the killers of their parents very publicly. I recall one who employed the man who killed her parents.
Reviewers have spoken of Amleth's failure to constrain his hate, his self-destructive behaviour, and his personal failure in choosing revenge over his love for Olga. But this is to misunderstand everything. Amleth never had a choice. He realises this at the end.
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The idea of the immaculate conception of Mary really undermines Christianity. Mary was born without original sin because God made it so...showing he could just do this for everyone and could have from the start. No execution by the Romans required.
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Like why the fuck would Hindu nationalists be associated with white supremacy and why would Hindu nationalists be hunting down Muslims in New Mexico? Why even bring that up? Not the first time I've seen that brought up here either. Narendra Modi was compared to Hitler.
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@Atlanteanfox
And they wonder why men don't want to commit. If she isn't decided then I ain't either, and I will do what I want.
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I've had multiple catholics and one Lutheran demand I prove my religion and that the "Norse gods" exist. And not one of them would prove theirs nor take the Mark 16 poison test.
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I don't try and claim my gods are nice. They are often terrible. Odin is terror itself, but is also generous and wise. Once he gave me an experience of what it is like to sacrifice yourself like he did. His lessons are often harsh.
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Odin is associated with kings, bards, the various types of poets including what would evolve into court historians of a sort, travelers, merchants, beggars, outcasts, roaming warriors, wizards, vagrants, beggars...
All these are outside normal settled society in some sense.
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Then the aliens laugh and sacrifice the bishop to whatever gods they worship.
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Usually people that complain of persecution everywhere are far more vicious than warriors. That's the thing. They will cringe and pretend deference and meekness unless they can find an easy target. Slave minded people are very cruel. Even more than robbers and pirates.
@The_Hellenist
"Christianity is bad because its a religion for slaves but not warriors, but its also bad because its heckin' violent!"
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It's culture is so much worse than just saying it's race.
The Chinese have tried to enslave nomadic pastoralists into being sedentary farmers before. Short of constant repression and genocide it's never worked out.
The "conservative" and wholesome Chinee alternative to racial Marxism and affirmative action is even worse. "It CULCHA"! It would amount to FORCING impulsive populations with no aptitude for scholarship to study differential equation 30 hour/week. Procrustean torture and inhuman
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Are you all completely ignorant of Christianity or what? Did you not read the Bible? Demons cause illness, deafness, blindness, insanity, even unbelief. They are prowling about everywhere ready to get the unwary. This is basic Christianity.
This is another great point, Christianity as a demystifying (clearpilled) force to dispel pagan fears of demons and other invisible forces of evil (todays equivalent of living paganism would be covid, racism)
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Christians are far more terrified of death than any pagans were and this permeates the culture of the west all the way through. The west even managed to spread this to formerly more noble cultures.
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3rd-4th century mosaic. The Sun God Sol. He is holding the sphere of the heavens in his hand. What makes this notable is that this is from a Jewish synagogue. I could have said this was Jesus, and people would definitely believe it.
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The new testament is full of gnosticism and often looks like something gnostic that later got edited by mora rabbinic leaning Jews. Paul's epistles go back and forth with numerous contractions even within the same text because of this editing.
Gnosticism is a dangerous and extremely enticing Luciferian deception… it’s a false occult doctrine that promises personal enlightenment. I got caught up in it back in 2018, and had a hard time getting out.
It claims:
1. Yahweh is an evil and bloodthirsty demiurge trying to
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Medieval nobles were warriors. Difference between a warrior and a soldier is that fighting is part of a warrior's personal and social identity. It's what he does. They treated war a lot like a violent sport. It was fun to them. Bertran de Born's poetry is shocking today
@LandsknechtPike
Can someone explain to me why one would go fight in a crusade, survive, come back home, and one of the first things you'd do is turn your sword on someone you fought beside with an intention to kill?
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I have seen this idea before and it's just bizarre. The people that focused on asceticism and moksha, patronized and joined religions around it and similar ideas...were the upper classes of that society. Royalty, nobles, brahmins, landowners.
@whatifalthist
Caste system prevented people from having social mobility. We see lack of social mobility bringing discontent and suffering in our modern era as well.The religions of India were fixated upon elevating alleviating that suffering by accepting suffering and reducing desire(tomoveup)
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You are leaving out that he aided and extended toleration to Christians too, especially those that had been out of favor and persecuted before. Did that indicate he was pro Christian? Julian makes it clear he wasn't fond of Christians or Jews. Didn't stop him from using them.
Neopaganism doesnt automatically mean≠anti-jewish
Here’s your based ‘le christian owning’ apostate neopagan Roman Emperor Julian
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The Bible has no issue saying the Jews(as a race not an idea) are Yahweh's people but the moment Europeans make a similar claim it's usually shut down by Christians.
Europeans don't have the nerve to claim we are the chosen people.
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The fascists hated capitalists. The corporate world is full of backbiting ass kissers too, profiteering at wider social expense, and often by usury. Fascism operates more on the mindset of a gang or army combined with a guild/union. Depending on the brand of fascism.
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Prostitution was everywhere.
For most of history, most dudes NEVER got laid. NEVER. Life was; Work your fingers to the bone, try not to starve, and MAYBE you might get enough money together to afford a woman. Who might very well get pregnant the first time you have sex and die in childbirth, BTW. 5/
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It reminds me a lot of later pagans like Julian or Ammianus who thought chiding the more "extreme" Christians would really make them stop and think.
Islam was spread by a countless violent acts. Intimidation, assassination, slavery.
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On Fate and Free Will.
Part 1 on Homer.
Been wanting to write something on this a while. It is a topic of great interest in pagan lore. There is a huge misconception that the idea of fate means that choices and actions are all predetermined. This is not the case at all.
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Greeks and Norse both valued cunning and a predatory instinct. This gets underrated a lot but it's apparent. The Greeks especially valued cunning and artfulness, this is why all their heroes are like that. Even Achilles and Herakles.
@HammerandVajra
Odin is a local form of Mercury, the Jewish deceiver deity. "Norse myth" is a Christian/Jewish fabrication at odds with all other Aryan religions (no sky father, sun is represented by a female deity as opposed to a male, etc.) .
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The Quran says that Allah has predestined or planned out all evil including making many just for the sake of torturing them in Jahannam. Very much like Christianity also teaches but much less coy. I find the label good means nothing most of the time.
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One of the things they rarely tell you is that much of this was made possible by young men, knights, going out and raiding and killing in the Muslim held territories every season. They took captives for ransom or slavery, burned down villages. El Cid was a brutal, opportunistic
Listening to a podcast "I think it's too late, It'd take 20 years to change the politics, and in that time Brittain will be overrun"
Sir! It took over 700 YEARS to reconquer Spain, but they did it.
The secret ingredient isn't time... It's violence.
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Buddhist scriptures have things like
Don't keep cats or dogs because they are carnivorous animals
Don't have sex with your wife and if you must don't enjoy it(or you get a bad rebirth)
If you eat meat at all you will go to hell
@Niji_No_Karasu
@GraniRau
@Ashokakanta
Yep, mix leftist self-loathing with a rudimentary understanding of Buddhism (and European paganism), and this is what you get.
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You can't do anything else on reddit, they shut you down instantly nowadays. Anyone else was long ago filtered out. Christian subreddits will look similar. Gays, trans, and blacks are the trinity there.
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