🔸️EnyelChan🔸️Vtuber artist 🟠Working on comms🟠
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🎀✦ Live2D Artist and Illustrator ✦ 🍼 (ENG/SPA) 🦋Multishipper🦋 🇨🇱 🚫minors DNI🚫
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I'll start with the main thing. (I'm going to upload video of the ENTIRE conversation) She contacted me at the end of January for her commission (January 27). First of all, she paid without me sending her an invoice, which was in my card, says it is prohibited to do so.
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¿Otra referencia a un meme? Si, así es.
Feliz San Valentín a todos, yo cenaré maruchan y vinito con mis husbandos.
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Trua unblocked me, made public and private apologies, this is the summary of what was discussed and the MUTUAL agreement we reached.
Again I make it public, bcs all this was public from the beginning. I only posted a summary bcs there was quite a bit of talk about everything.
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The last thing I will say is that I was not looking for this to escalate, but I was threatened by her twice. And both times she published about me, This time I had to do something about it and give my side.I didn't even expect 90% of the impact that all this got.
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A girl contacted me on my fb page telling me this,bcs she asked me I delete her username. As I had already said, the first time Trua threatened me with publishing it and even though we made the deal and I offered her free articles, she still exposed me to her audience.
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⛓ 🔥 𝕭𝖑𝖆𝖈𝖐 & 𝖂𝖍𝖎𝖙𝖊 🔥 ⛓
I suffered making the hair.
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A date with IceHot 😳
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—You will catch a cold, Kaeya.
He's so damn cute, I can't ❤️✨
#原神
#GenshinImpact
#Kaeya
#Diluc
#kaeyaalberich
#Kaeyafanart
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Thank you for understanding my side, thank you for being kind and asking when didn't understand, but I don't want to answer anymore, this is a vicious circle of answers.
Above all, THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MY CHILDREN 💖for showing their support for me with their posts, Ily!
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It's okay that she had a problem with me, but the rigger is a totally different thing, she only paid for one model and 4 expressions, and she wants the rigger to work for free for everything else
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Once the payment was made, I informed her that people who pay in parts have less delivery priority, and I tell this to all my clients, those who pay in parts DO NOT have delivery priority (my card also says it)
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When it is more than obvious that extra things have an extra cost, and must be paid for.
She said that I made 3 models, when it is just 1 model, only with all the extras that she asked for, which I remind you were 16 extra expressions, extra outfit, a naked model.
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She says she doesn't want her audience to attack me but I have 3 of her fans here defending her for making me work for free, from the pay she gave I kept $750 the rest was from the rigger.
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I had to take this commission as if she also paid a rush bcs she threatened to publish me, I hope you understand my fear that a person with more than 50k threatens an artist with 3k, this is my job, so in total I gave her things for a cost of $3050 including a rush for free.
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I have other clients, my trello is visible to the entire public, when she paid in parts she was at the end of the list, I advance with other clients and when I have time I advance with her commission (she tis saying that she paid more than $2 k and complete, when it is not)
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Today she started working with the rigger, because he sent me a message asking if she had paid for the extras. I told him no, and she decided to send me this message and block me.
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On February 10th I sent her the first sketch of her character. The same day I sent her the detailed sketch.
Traducir post
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I hadn't even passed my 6 month mark, she didn't care, she says I broke my terms with her, but she broke hers, by asking for a refund and not waiting the 6 months either.
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She asked me to make changes, for which I did not charge her. She made the full payment on March 8, in my trello it was seen when I started accepting rush commissions because I got sick, I have a section in my trello where I report any delay that affects all clients.
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When I finished it she still wanted to get the commercial right of the illustration, agreeing to everything he asked of me at a cost of $3200. To which I responded no, because the abuse she was giving me was already too much.
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I gave her the base model + outfit + 16 expressions + naked model + illustration in 3 months. In addition to several changes.The 3 models took me 1 month to finish.
And 1 month the illustration.
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She didn't like this, and she started complaining to me That's why saying that I would ask for a refund, when my card specifically says that those who pay in parts do not have priority and that it takes 3 to 6 months to deliver a job and that I do not accept refunds.
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This is where the problem started with the rigger, as I said, he is a person completely unrelated to the problem. He has his own costs, and his own ETA
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She says that paid in "full" when the payment was given in parts, also says that the rigging was not done, when my TOS are totally different from the rigger, since it is another person who does it, in addition to the fact that it is acquiring A totally different service than mine
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An agreement was reached, where she asked me to do 16 extra expressions, an extra outfit, a nude model and an illustration.
All this with a cost of $1550 which she no pay, obviously.
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I really don't understand what the problem is, she didn't pay for priority delivery, I gave her work for free, and I gave it to her and now she wants the rigger to do the extras for free?...
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I want to publish the video, but not quickly, I want you to read. I will upload it on YouTube
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Even when I send the invoice on Paypal in terms and conditions I stipulate that I do not accept refunds and that when the invoice is paid you accept these TOS
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Even so, an agreement was reached and the commission continued. Just as I said in my message, the lineart and base colors were ready, and I sent them . I sent an invoice for extra things that she asked for, which never paid, in the video you can see how the invoice is deleted.
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Two weeks later she told me that the files were useless, when she downloaded them in PDF, obviously they were not going to work L2D does not read PDF ;-;
I told her it's because she downloaded them like that.
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.She sent me a message saying what the cost of the rigger would be, I told her that the FIRST model had been paid for (the trial only includes one model and 4 expressions, all the extras obviously have an extra cost)
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Also she said that I never gave her the @ of Rigger when I told her up to 3 times, and you can see it in the video, besides the fact that he has always been the @ in my carrd, and put it in bold.
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A month later (Jun 3) she found out that she asked for a refund, since I continued to advance with the rush comms, As I had already told her I would do, I had not been able to answer her messages.
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@nellohead
God!!!, how many times must I repeat that yes, I was at fault in the communication and I rewarded her for it. Read the thread, the video of all our messages is on Yt, here the problem, as I have said thousands of times, is that she wants the rigger to do things for free
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In the end the girl told the rigger that she would not work with him because she would not have the free extras.
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@nellohead
What are you taking about? You went crazy, yeah I said that, I'm fighting because Trua wanted the rigger to do things for free. Mine has already been delivered, I have nothing else to do with this, if she didn't want problems she wouldn't have made this public in the first place.
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@ripkremit
In the video you can see how she says that I am the first person she commissions...I also believed in that, it felt very nice, but I now see that it was a lie
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@nellohead
The same rigger explained to her that there are not 3 models. 💀
If you want I can teach you how to read. In addition to the fact that I published everything I talk with her, I am not giving too many words, everything is proven with evidence
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@ZethanosGaming
Uh? I gave him everything he asked for, and for free, what's the problem then?
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@HitishiTheFox
I will not work with her again. I just decided to get this over with, I'll just wait for my money and this will be over forever c:
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Comm for @/VixxannVT
Look at her respectfully 💖
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@nellohead
Wtf??? You only pay for the rigging of the standard model, all the other extras were never discussed until long after the invoice was paid in full, obviously all the extras I made would have an extra charge with the rigger.
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@Pepper_5s
Well, if she fails, she knows that the consequence is that I publish the gifted model and that she does not have the rights to them.
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I'm ready to move forward with commissions. I thank you all for your patience. ❤️
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@callulamf
Yes, I really don't know what else she was looking for, I apologize, I gave free products. But she wants the rigger who is a person totally unrelated to the problem to do things for free.
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Maybe I'll make my first raffle for the 3k 👀
Would be two, a normal comm and a Vtuber model 🤫
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1)If you think I'm right, that's fine, if you think trua is right, that's fine. But keep in mind that the majority of us are teenagers or young adults playing to be influencers, I published everything in self-defense, and as a warning, Trua with her own opinions did the same...
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She's so pretty!!! 😍💖💖💕
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Showcase
VTUBER:
@Mokaruix
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Artist :
@EnyelChan
Model:ME !
My bounce wolfヽ(✿ﾟ▽ﾟ)ノ
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@KanoAikawa
@ZethanosGaming
Her*, bro I'm using a translator, my confusion with pronouns is the least of my problems...
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2)Everyone has two different opinions, but here the most important thing is that the two main parts of the problem, which are her and I, already fixed it, I am an empathetic person, I would be incredibly afraid if something would happen to her for a couple of posts
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3)I know that for many, including myself, I will not deny it, what she did was serious, but not to this point.
They do more good by supporting one side and sending nice messages like they did with me than by playing to be a vigilante.
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I am having problems with a Vtuber, to which I gave more than $1,500 dollars worth of work and now it wants to work for me without any sense, since the work was delivered. She is wanting the rigger I work with to also give her the rigging when her problem was initially with me.
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@EverTrua_TTV
As I told Trua we must refrain from the consequences of our actions, because the fact that she is being attacked is my fault, that they attack me is her fault, in a way I appreciate it but I really don't want all of this to be like this.
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@alexia_moi_voss
@jo_nigiri
XD what?
The additional costs are not for me, they are for the rigger, with whom he had no problem, I gave Trua everything she asked for, and in case you don't understand. Yes she paid in May, but in June SHE ASKED FOR EXTRAS, they were not in the initial cost.
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@Maid_albi
Thank you very much, but I have all of that written very clearly in my TOS. My times are 1 to 6 months, she wanted me to deliver the model in 4 months or she would give me a refund...
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I really want to draw a masculine man Vtuber 😞
I love my girls I need to give them a protective brother.
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@nellohead
Whaaat???? I'm not twisting anything, the evidence is there. I admitted my mistake and gave her jobs of more than 3k for FREE. and she wants the rigger who is ANOTHER PERSON to do extra things for free?
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@flashballad
Thank you very much for your support and for taking a little of your time to read the full story and understand it. 💖
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My Twitter was hacked, luckily I already solved it, these days I will be modifying everything that was changed, I think no strange message is sent, if so an apology.
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@Xara_Hellfire
She misunderstood that, I sent her 3 .psds, with the outfits separated. because that's how the files are less heavy. Why would I make 3 models? That would take me months, it's even ridiculous. You can see the gmail ss in the thread.
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@alexia_moi_voss
@jo_nigiri
You really have very bad reading comprehension. She did pay for the rigging, but all the other extras were not included in the initial price, what I gave her was with me, the rest the rigger has nothing to do with
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@nellohead
@SkyveeVT
What? I hadn't even published her name when she published mine. I said "I had problems with a vtuber", but I never mentioned her name, she did it first. She used her community as weapon
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@nellohead
What are you taking about? She never paid for expressions or extra toggles, I gave those to her for free.
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I'm going to publish evidence of all this, the truth is that I don't deserve that she makes me look like the bad guy when she was the one who threatened me that if I didn't hand in the work she was going to publish me on twt
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@JuriJin_vt
Yes, I received $750, $900 for the rigger and the extra $80 was for a toggle. Even at the beginning of the video you can see how she asks me if my models cost $600, the charge of $150 + was made because I had to make her model from scratch without any exact reference.
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@nellohead
Seriously, you're not very smart. She asked me for all the extras 3 MONTHS AFTER having paid in full for her model. Obviously that was not in the initial price. Obviously it would have an extra cost.
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@eggbreadgirl
Exacto, como llevo repitiendo, el "error" de comunicación fue mio. Pero me disculpe y recompense a ella por eso. Lo que ella pago fue mucho antes de pedir todos los extras. Obviamente el rigger le iba a cobrar por algo que no fue pagado, que YO le regale, no el.
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She's saying that I said I gave her free arm toggles. When I mentioned that it was only the expressions, the outfit, the hair and the illustration(???
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@Xara_Hellfire
In June she asked for 16 expressions, a hair, and 2 extra outfits, I gave them to her for free. But she really wants the rigger to do it for free too, when he's another person.
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@nellohead
my community??? I don't have a community, I'm just an artist, I don't even publish my art. People read and make their own conclusions when they see ALL the evidence, I have nothing to do with how they see the situation. They are not Sheeps.
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@nellohead
What? She paid for a riggin package plus 1 model, I didn't charge her for all the other extras, the rigger is a separate person,He won't work all those extras for free.
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@jo_nigiri
Well no, apparently she didn't read anything about my carrd, only that my commissions took 6 months and she didn't even respect that, because after 4 months she was already asking for a refund.
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@Xara_Hellfire
Thank you very much for the recommendation, I will take it into account, but even though she believed that they were mutual fees, I did not charge her anything for what I gave her.
and it is a bit illogical that he is giving away someone else's work.
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@your0neN0nly
@EverTrua_TTV
Sorry but You are giving wrong info... my work was delivered to Trua a month ago, she has not used my work yet, Even if she were to use it, she paid for the standard model so she has the right to use it. And she's already paying for the extras. That work is from @/Ewolfay's
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@Pinkkatfox
Hermana si, para ya acabar con esto solo pedi lo de los outfits e ilustracion, de hecho le deje como compensacion lo mas costoso de toda esta pega, que fueron las expresiones
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@jo_nigiri
???
I publish everything in my trello, the first week I fell ill and was hospitalized I put it in the trello. that ALL my clients could see it
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If you sent me a message in April to commission me, please send me a message again, my waiting list file for those dates was corrupted and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't recover it ;;
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@SkyveeVT
Congratulations!!!! 💞
You deserve much more support as well as everything you gave me!
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@jo_nigiri
And yes, it's long, but it's what she pay for. If she wanted something on time I would have saved the money and commissioned it when she had it ready to be on the top of the list. She can't skip people who pay rush or full because she want things faster
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@buppi
@IcySylvie
Yes, she could have asked myself, but I was blocked, the same rigger in his capture says that it was a confusion of communication that she understood that there were 3 models.
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@alexia_moi_voss
@kururu4ever
At what point did I leave the employment contract? And yes, I admitted it about the bad communication, and I apologized, but she can't skip clients.
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@jo_nigiri
I spent month after month sending her wips, go back and see the videos and the dates.
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@JuriJin_vt
Exactly, she also makes it seem as if I were the rigger when I have specified for a year that I do not rig, and that I have an agreement with a rigger and his @ It's always been in my carrd
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@alexia_moi_voss
@Thedarkcrimson1
Many people have tried to explain it to you but your fan blindness does not allow you to see
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@Maid_albi
Yes, I told her I would be busy with rush comms, she kept sending me messages when I was constantly changing statuses on Trello.
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