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Doug Thonus
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I tweet / blog / podcast about the Bulls / NBA I particularly love the economics side of basketball and advanced analytics.
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@natecurtis12 @cbefred @Bulls_Peck @BawlSports Agreed, though we don't have that level of outrage. Bulls fans are in apathy.
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@BullsTherapy Also would note that a lot of maneuvering was done this year to improve a lot of apron status for teams. The contracts will still be valuable relative to performance next year, but probably not as much next year as they would have been this year.
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@BullsTherapy Hard to think 1 season is going to be worth more than 2 seasons for other teams even if they improve some. The 140% rule would apply to a new team acquiring them as well.
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If I view Pat only as a role player who does not have any shot creation responsibilities at all, then some better basketball IQ and conditioning way from being a good player. The conditioning I hope improves because of the long lay off with the foot, and we've seen it in his past so I have reasonable hope. The basketball IQ should improve over time as it does with all players, but he's got a long way to go, and hasn't made much progress in 4.5 years.
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@cbefred I agree, but I also think you are mad because their fall is stopping us from getting to your favorite number 7
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@_Biiggie @CHGO_Bulls @Bulls_Peck Pat has none of the foundational offensive skills to ever be a main option. He has no handle and a slow release and is a poor finisher at the rim. Let's aim for 3&D guy.
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@CHGO_Bulls @Bulls_Peck He got confused and forgot while high upside players are typically young, young players are not necessarily high upside, and it's the high upside part fans want and the team needs.
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Sure, but it shows he had some value. As an example, they could have traded Springer, an expiring they don't need for him, saved 5-6M in luxury tax money, and not taken the risk of whether he went onto the market. Probably other similarly structured deals exist where a playoff team upgrades a non rotation player and saves a truckload of tax money.
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@JayNopolyy How about to Boston for Jaden Springer + a 2nd. Boston signed him anyway, this trade would have saved them 5-6M or so in luxury tax payments. Springer is an expiring and not in their rotation. Similar permutations of that type of deal likely exist all over.
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@curious_georgio Did I say that? I said they were stupid and poor negotiators, and possibly the other things but those other things are unknowable.
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@curious_georgio Based on their tenure, potentially all of the above, but certainly intelligence and negotiating skills have been lacking.
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@snobworthy Not obsessed with 2nd round picks, but obsessed with my GM always making good margin moves.
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