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A "dead franchise" is about to get a 100k likes in 5 hours. Terminally online HBO execs need to realize no one cares what the always malcontent stans, purists and gatekeepers of the fandom are whining about, the general public is starving for more AWOIAF content.
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@NotGlidus
The cut scene was immaculate & got the point across about the brutality of war...Feast for Crows. It was also baiting & switching the audience for the actual battle next episode. GoT did it constantly in s2 before Blackwater. Overloading with battles will take away the novelty.
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@propheticbug
It's funny how Condal has it clocked that they're dealing with the lowest common denominator lmao.
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Notice how the original post was getting 100s of likes, which is what made them jump in. This happens everytime. Any organic opinion about hotd or awoiaf is bullied away by a rabid vindictive pitchfork mob of targ cultoids.
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@edensvale
Showing how progressive feminist I am by believing in the Divine Rights of Kings.
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We've catered to the spoiled brat tantrums of Targ stans so long that "put characters in context of their circumstances" is now controversial?
They cry that Dance is about misogyny & then cry when women other than their silver haired self-insert are also victims of that society.
“The whole point of the story is people have been forced to pick sides and that’s why a civil war happens. We are imploring the audience not to do that, and to really empathize with every character and see inside their inner workings.”
—Olivia Cooke via Vulture
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Dinklage is right about at least 90% of targ stans who approach asoiaf as a silver princess self insert disney movie.
y’all will not make me like that man i’m sorry
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The Alicent-Rhaenyra "lost friendship" aspect IS the central driving force of Hotd. It's what provides the show with its emotion, angst & tragedy. If you do not understand this it's bc ur a petulant Targ Cultist for whom scoring Sports Team dunks is more important than the story.
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The Dance, just like all of GRRM's work, is primarily a critique of monarchy,the immutability of autocracy,the futility of revolutionary monarchs trying to change it, & how destructive pursuit of absolute power can be. You're never getting your Disney Girlboss Warlord adaptation.
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The Hightowers survived, propsered, became one of the richest House in Westeros, home of learning, culture, maester secrets, blackstone magic, led by Leyton Chadtower!
Then you have Rhaegar searching for his intestines in the Trident.
only one of them was dumb enough to make their entire house disappear and not even be remembered 150+ years later and it was not rhaenyra 🤷🏻♂️
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Mind you, the protagonist's story ends with Storming of the Dragonpit, where the masses rebel against her, overthrow her, & send her to an ignominious death. I don't know how exactly "Daenerys Targaryen Apology Show" wanters thought this would've been girlbossified.
house of the dragon fandom is the only fandom i’ve seen where people get mad that the ANTAGONIST who is a hugely important character in the story has screen time. this is like if people got mad at darth vader having a prequel trilogy lmao
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@ST4RK0VA
It's obvious they're keeping her "out of sight out of mind" from the millions of casual audience who are gonna watch the show and don't know anything about b&c.
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I too am a superstitious medieval peasant and that's why I believe some rando animal approaching me in the forest is a sign of the writers favoring my sports team!
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@oldstoneds
"Otto paid actors to be out there crying". It's..it's..almost like Helaena was specifically mentioned as the queen of the smallfolk. These people creating alternate realities when the source doesn't suit them.
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@mattysmokez
I love how every character's merit/demerit, how much empathy they deserve, etc...is determined by how subservient they are to my self-insert. Totally healthy way to consume media.
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Helaena and Rhaenyra are running towards each other thru the beautiful lush green meadows as the bright hue of the sun shines over them. As they embrace with tears in their eyes Helaena screams out "Muh One Truew Kween, I'm home!!!"
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@alphalicent
Most emotionally intelligent targ stans baffled by a female character not being portrayed as a mustache twirlling evil mastermind cartoon villain caricature.
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"Fanfic" 🤓
-Aemond screwed Criston & didn't return to free KL
-It was Aegon who avenged his mom & sis
-had B&C killed
-Ordered statues for bros
-Showed Rhaenyra how to destroy the Shepherd's revolt
-Rhaenys dead at Rooks Rest, Aegon takes dragonstone vs Moondancer.
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Backstory:
In summer HOTD cast was doing a panel where they were talking about their interactions with GRRM. Olivia Cooke told a story that when she met GRRM he laughed at her & said "haha everyone hates Alicent". Hint: he was joking (playing off the unhinged reaction she gets).
Paul with all respect you need rewatch the show then.
GRRM (author) once said: “everyone hates Alicent Hightower”
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No offense but I think you have a vindictive toddler's understanding of the character and people far more articulate than kean presented great counter arguments against your portrayal, especially against the "socially damaging" weaponized language.
💀Well in honour of Alicent and the new trailer...pls enjoy my vid explaining why her show portrayal was insidious, disrespectful, and *utterly misogynistic*. It was so triggering watching this woman be abused all season, her leadership given to men, and watchers still hate her
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Why exactly was Aegon II entitled to give away the treasury to rival claimants literally trying to kill him in the middle of a war?
Targ Stan Toddler Brain : Why characters I hate not making it easier for my favorite character to kill them.
“rhaenyra raised taxes” tyland was withholding the entirety of the crown’s treasury what was she supposed to do?!?!
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It's literally bc half these actors are walking around with PTSD Vietnam Stare due to how unhinged the stans reacted to GoT. This is not a secret it's well documented. Kit,Sophie,Emilia,Nikolaj,all have said this more or less: "it's too soon". HOTD did record setting viewership.
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@hightowerfunk
Targ stans are a cancer on the asoiaf franchise. No other fandom actively wants a good thing to become bad just to make their own self insert look good.
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This is the type of scum who dig up 10 month old tweets to tell you "don't speak on Emilia ever again". This is the scum GRRM was talking about in his blog. 2k likes, it's not a couple of rotten eggs, it's a scum fandom.
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Putting Emilia Clarke in the same acting category as Peter and Lena is what's insulting.
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Looking at petulant children lose their minds because Aegon II got a good line.
House of the Dragon is the only show where its fandom actively roots for the show to be bad, just so they can carry out their SILVER PWINCESS self insert disney fantasies.
#hotd
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Team Black Targ Cultists literally post this tweet every other month, aging Alicent up 30 years and fantasizing Michelle Fairley playing her as the evil stepmom, while inadvertently showing their misogny & transphobia by casting the most boring skinny blonde IG model as Rhaenyra.
#They
will cry about book accuracy and then proceed to cast a thin woman as Rhaenyra and pretend Alicent is 20 years older than she actually was
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The worst atrocities in history are committed by people who were convinced they were doing good for the people.
Daenerys is not morally gray, she is good of heart and is the one ruler in the series that gives a shit about her people
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pretty much sums up the state of the asoiaf fandom.
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These are the same pathological scum who dig up some 10 month old milquetoast tweet to qrt "don't ever speak on Emilia Clarke again". Meanwhile they spent every sec of the last year bullying, harassing, chasing off social media Emily Carey & Olivia Cooke,like they did GoT actors.
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@alicents_lawyer
God forbid a female character have moral ambiguity instead of a clever bond villain MASTER PLAN(tm). Yeah it's almost like normal people ARE inconsistent, they vacillate, the different relationships in their lives often contradict each other.
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The blind naivete of this statement is mind-boggling. Why didn't Helaena cut all her family ties & run into Rhaenyra's arms. Pure Y/A teen drama brainrot. Martin severely overestimated the capacity of his audience. And all this to justify child murder for Muh Sports Team
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@OhshereadsX
Gotta admire dedication of Targ Cultoids inventing an entire Laena-Rhaenyra headcanon out of 3 non-romantic lines in F&B, sheerly out of COPE that the antagonists are not being portrayed as 65 yr old Evil Stepmom Doormat disney caricatures.
Not that they give af abt Laena.
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Gotta admire dedication of Targ Cultoids inventing an entire Laena-Rhaenyra headcanon out of 3 non-romantic lines in F&B, sheerly out of COPE that the antagonists are not being portrayed as 65 yr old Evil Stepmom Doormat disney caricatures.
Not that they give af abt Laena.
The treatment of Laena felt icky to me. They strip a black women of her story and give it to a white woman to make her more sympathetic to the audience. HOTD writers need to be called out on this more.
And with all this that white woman was still so unlikeable!!!!!
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What they'll never forgive hotd for is Alicent not being a 55 y/o mustache twirling evil stepmom cartoon villain caricature who only exists as a doormat for Silver Kwheen Girlboss Warlord, while audience sees her & goes "GOSh, I HATE THAT EVIL B!"
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House of the Dragon is the only show where its fandom actively roots for the show to be bad, just so they can carry out their SILVER PWINCESS self insert disney fantasies.
#hotd
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Aegon II was explicitly stated to have "once handsome features" in the book before he was he was burnt & went puffy faced from the milk of poppy.
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These type of posts are instructional bc Hotd can go out of its way to establish a theme & they'll blatantly disregard it bc they've put up a mental wall of good vs evil. It's not just ignoring subtext or critical analysis, they refused to engage with what was being shown at all.
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"I'm baffled why these actors don't want to touch the asoiaf franchise with a 10 foot pole. D&D must be the only reason, right?"
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@KaylaTSummer
@darlingfyre
The dance isn't about who is the lesser evil at all, it's simple minded team stans like you projecting a good vs evil morality play, and getting mad for not getting it.
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A more empathetic take wud be that Rhaenyra's free will was made possible by her unique position within an oppressive hierarchy of which she was equal parts a victim & a beneficiary. She didn't "transcend her circumstances". In fact,her failing to do so is part of her tragedy.
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Nikolaj Coster-Waldau : "I can't bear myself to do it. I just can't. I turned it on, I heard that familiar intro & it was just too much man. It's too soon."
Targ Cultoids: THEY'RE NOT WATCHING BECAUSE OF ALICENT HIGHTOWER!!
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Wait they're still doing the "sweet sister" thing 🤣🤣🤣
It's been debunked so many times at this point this doesn't even deserve a debunking. It just deserves ridicule.
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The show never had a chance cause anotuer tragic event is just gonna be a mudslinging contest of which sports team is more righteous.
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@Sade_oa
Gotta admire dedication of Targ Cultoids inventing an entire Laena-Rhaenyra headcanon out of 3 non-romantic lines in F&B, sheerly out of COPE for not getting Silver Kween Girlboss Warlord vs 65 yr old Evil Stepmom Doormat Caricature disney movie.
Not that they give af abt Laena.
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Imagine how shamelessly venal you have to be to pretend someone wishing ***** to a real person IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM COMPARES to analysis of a medieval marriage where the bride or groom had little choice in whom they married or in consumating that marriage.
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@killcommander_
The targ stan reaction to Daemon being abusive, while expected, has been pretty unnerving. They're doubling down on ignoring the grooming & blaming Sara Hess for portraying medieval reality instead of girlbosses who blow up septs....scary fandom.
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The point of this is just braindead "poc discourse" to tell us Cole doesn't get "oppressed person" points. The problem with transplanting politics of oppression from real world to westeros is that westeros isn't necessarily divided into oppression based on skin color. Dorne was
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Everyone in the Asoiaf fandom is a super progressive radical revolutionary until the proletariat starts dishing out mob justice to their favorite aristocrat.
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@jenniesbible
Yeah but a commentary on feudal society and misogyny won't help me score points for my sports team, a evil stepmom cartoon villain caricature will!
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since yall wanna be assholes for team black. alicent dies in her own piss and shit, scared of the colour green and begging rhaenyra for forgiveness
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Green propaganda spreading
please stop posting that beautiful slightly depressed woman from hotd i’m falling in love
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@DearonItyd
Type of guy who thinks GRRM is a simpleton who treats his own universe as some good guy/bad guy disney morality play. Now let's look at his other favorite character....Tyrion Lannister.
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The "lost friendship" aspect of Rhaenyra-Alicent story IS what gives moments like this their intrinsic value
Wanting a Silver Kween Warlord vs 65y/o Evil Stepmom Caricature disney childrens fairytale,bc scoring points for ur Sports Team is more important than actual storytelling
This is one of the moments from the book that i’m really excited to see in the show. Rhaenyra sitting on the iron throne while Alicent begs and bows to her. I truly hope the writers won’t destroy this scene and make it “emotional”
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@kingaegonii
lmao right? This Jon Snow gif still has more pop culture relevance than most TV shows do in their prime.
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Oh no!!! The antagonist got a fantastic line that describes something that literally happens in canon!!! GRRM must immediately re-write it to make sure characters I don't like don't get any characterization & screentime & be the cartoon villains of the disney movie in my head!!!
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Correct! Arya asking "King Robert?" drives home that GRRM is using satire to make a point about smallfolk. Robert's reign was corrupt af, but comparatively peaceful (Greyjoy Rebellion was a localized conflict),whereas WOT5K reminds us of the chaos of the last days of Aerys' reign
@QueenOfKiwis
Ok the thought is wrong there but pretty sure the "smallfolk" there is like one clueless comic guy who thinks Aerys would be better than Robert. Westeros is more complicated than "they're all burning for the return of the Targs".
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@KaylaTSummer
@darlingfyre
"The story HAS to end with alicent paying the price for what she has caused...."
That sound sounds like Team Black morality play than the actual story they're telling.
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@loyalistdarcy
Easiest way to realize someone is unserious about their criticism of HoTD is when they try to insult Olivia Cooke's acting. She's got Spielberg & Scorcese praising her. It's just telling the world you're a petty unserious b*ch.
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Someone makes a variation of this tweet every other month and just a tweet saying "Game of Thrones fell off the face of the Earth" will still always get more engagement than any Sopranos tweet ever.
Game of Thrones went from something people couldn't shut up about to total cultural irrelevance.
Meanwhile people still watch, and rewatch, and make reference to The Sopranos.
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When Targ stans lost their shit because a villain gave another villain a complement.
what is the most wtf moment on hotdtwt? I go first, the drama over the pics (parallels) of aegon and sansa
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George feast draft : Resolve to be Sansa Stark and take the North
"Lady_Alisan" asoiaf understander : SHE'S LYSA ARRYN AND THAT'S ON THAT 👏👏👏
genuinely why do people think sansa's story is not ending up as the lady of winterfell. she is not marrying that little boy dpmo.
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@baelathinker
Never forget. Targ stans aren't mad about F&B. They're mad about Hotd not being their ao3 fanfic vereion of F&B....where their team is flawless heroes & the other team is irredeemable villains with no characterization and screentime.
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@Ema_is_Tome
I hate this juvenile tendency to lump every character into a neatly placed box of familiarity, & then throwing hissy fits when the characters don't act in accordance with your frame of reference.
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@bIoodhive
none of the actors want to touch this fandom with a 10 foot pole other than what is contractually obligated, & we can't really blame them.
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@bluixi
It's the funniest targ stan Mean Girls copium. It's even funnier now cause a few months ago an old draft of feast was released & it had "resolve to be Sansa Stark and take the north" in George's own handwriting. Which should've been evident to anyone with two braincells.
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@baelatargryns
This person believes there's an age limit to marital r word. Holy heck.Just by the power imbalance alone, a slightly lesser difference in age doesn't make Viserys & Alicent's relationship any more normal.Excusing marital SA isn't gonna make Maegor With Teats any less of a tyrant.
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@__adamreid
@ST4RK0VA
It's almost like her personality trait prepares us for her to be the mute, resigned type who retreats into her shell when shocked
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@conquerorscrown
I know alicent hightower is a great character just from how dementedly insecure she has made targ stans.
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@asoiafstrgltwts
Imagine how shamelessly venal you have to be to pretend someone wishing ***** to a real person IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM COMPARES to analysis of a medieval marriage where the bride or groom had little choice in whom they married or in consumating that marriage.
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No Asoiaf franchise can really succeed bc Targ Cultists have hijacked what is essentially a shakesperean tragedy & turned it into a Dragon Kween Disney Feminist Morality Play self insert; & decided to sabotage anything that doesn't fit their vision out of bad-faith malice.
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The best moment of s1: the driftmark scene, would not have hit as hard w/o the emotion & angst added by the "lost friendship". Don't let them gaslight you into thinking they care about storytelling or that "Princess & the Queen" was ever gonna be "Princess & Evil Bro".
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Imagine expecting this genius to critically analyze house of the dragon when Rhaenyra goes to fleabottom & doesn't know she has to pay for food, or slwhen she says "their wants are of no concern" while watching the play. Silver kween self-inserts are a cancer on the franchise.
Honestly, who is watching anything ASOIAF related for the smallfolk? No one cares about them. They're boring. It's not their story.
It's fuck the fickle smallfolk o'clock.
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@greenssquid
Psa: when TB is also going "where's Aegon" it's not bc they suddenly want Aegon to have a more substantial role, it's bc they want a black & white Joffrey version of Aegon on the poster to contrast with heroine Rhaenyra.
Aegon & others are prolly gonna get their own flyers too.
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@kumamda2
Aemma this Milly that...they need to bring back Vaemond's floating head for a flashback!
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Prophecies and visions in asoiaf are a cautionary tale of the futility of one-track-minded pursuit of things that turn out to be mirages and fool's gold.
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@dcrkwings
Infantalizing women as these gullible creatures who are easily hoodwinked & manipulated. Big anti-suffragist vibes lol.
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So many ppl look at HoTD as a team sport, so they feel inclined to defend every action of their fav. Or they feel their fav is "losing out" or "feels lesser" to the favs of the other team. Which inevitably leads to pointless arguments about which team the show is more biased to.
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@mariama54745375
The child-like naivete of expecting Helaena to abandon her family aside,
Rhaenyra & Helaena had no relationship in F&B. "Sweet sister" is a vacant customary greeting. Just like Tyrion called Cersei. Targ Stan stop trying to pass ur headcanon as lore challenge (impossible).
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There's no complexity in that cash grab history book. What ur really mad abt is not getting a Silver Kween Girlboss Warlord vs 65 yr old Evil Stepmom Doormat Caricature disney movie. You're seething that Alicent garnered empathy with many viewers instead of "I hate that b word"
The show writers stripped her of her complexity. Show alicent makes no sense
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@Targ_Nation
What you're mad about is HOTD daring to make Alicent an emotionally compelling character instead of a 54y/o old mustache twirling evil stepmom cartoon villain caricature who only exists as a doormat for Silver Kwheen Girlboss Warlord while the viewer goes "GOD, HATE THAT EVIL B!"
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The most hilarious part of HOTD was watching the casual audience not being able to tell Jace from Luke 😂
daeron targaryen isn't as interesting or as notable as you guys want him to be pass it on
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"Resolve to be Sansa Stark and take the North" actually means Stannis is going to warg into Sansa and take Winterfell - Freefolk probably.
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Fancy way of saying psychologically abused by Rhaenyra Targaryen to suIcide
helaena targaryen did everything she was "supposed to" and suffered tragically and deeply at the hands of those who were supposed to protect and love her pass it on
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@HouseofDragon
Almost 90k likes in 5 hours on a "dead franchise" and terminally online HBO execs are still scared to greenlight this prequel and that sequel because Targ stans on social media will be mean to them. The casuals are literally starving for this franchise.
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@TheneverlandG
Metally ill 15 year olds living out their Mean Girls fantasies thru fandom wars.
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@propheticbug
These people live in a delusional conspiratorial world where they think Olivia Cooke makes writing decisions because the vision GRRM & Ryan Condal had for thr character did not align with their targ ao3 fanfic
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Breaking : the peasant mobs stormed the Buckingham Palace and overthrew Princess Diana and would've torn her into pieces if they could've!
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"GRRM (author) once said" and it's literally Olivia Cooke telling a panel what GRRM told her.
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"Sweet sister" is common platitude among the nobility in westeros. It's often used sarcastically as tyrion did to cersei. It's ok to invent headcanons from a line (or a word in this case) in F&B, but when you get mad the show didn't do your exact headcanon...you need help.
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