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I discuss cults. My interviews can be found on the following podcasts: Cult Vault, Let’s Talk About Sects, IndoctriNation, Cult Hackers, and Decoding Cults.
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Those who follow my account will know I have mostly used Twitter as a means to provide updates into the investigations into
#KwaSizabantu
and expose the beliefs and practices of the group. The thread below contains resources I have created or contributed to which may be helpful:
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This is one of the most comically absurd examples of eisegesis I’ve ever seen.
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Actually, no. To state the obvious: people die from not having food and shelter. No one dies from not having sex as frequently as they’d like.
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Here is my article about The Transformed Wife: “The Cult of Lori Alexander”. It examines some of the ways her teachings and ministry share similarities to characteristics of cults. (CW: child abuse, sexual abuse)
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@Susanj710
I think it comes from trying to read hyper-patriarchy into every passage of scripture in order to blame women for the ills in the world. It’s a reductionist reading in which God and the gospel become a mere footnote to the “gospel” of patriarchy.
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I think what I appreciate most about the Transformed Wife’s husband is his humility.
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This is evil. I have seen some horrific twisting of Scripture in my time, but this is beyond the pale.
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As much as the tradwife/hyper-patriarchy crowd seeks to give an impression of contentment and joy, I feel posts like these are a rare moment of honesty. Perhaps the need to proselytise and have a constant online identity based around patriarchy masks a deep discontentment.
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@bezalelplace
I have so many questions…😂 Did Adam also make himself a bikini? Who were they showing off to seeing as they were the only people around? Why was it a problem for Adam to be “tempted” given it was Eve?
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Just your regular reminder that neither Lori or Ken are in any way qualified to give advice relating to marriage or intimacy. Both have proven themselves to be devoid of wisdom in both areas. Please seek counsel from someone else if you need marital advice.
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@RoCa74394915
@godlywomanhood
The other thing that’s disingenuous is Lori leaving out the fact that in her original post she stated that the woman had written in to ask if it was marital rape. There’s no way the woman would have written that question had it been a normal, spontaneous, amorous encounter.
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I’ve spent the last few days immersing myself in
@godlywomanhood
’s content for an article I’m writing about the way her content/methods resemble those of cults. Needless to say I need thoughts and prayers after willingly exposing myself to that. Cat pictures would also help.
Here’s part of the issue. Lori isn’t genuinely interested in protecting women. Or young women and girls. If she was concerned, she wouldn’t be saying things like this. She’s a monster.
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@lsquaredbtwn
This is one good way to tell a healthy church from a toxic, culty one. How do they respond to people who leave but remain in the faith?
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@getabass
@godlywomanhood
“I’m not sorry for giving terrible and harmful advice, but I’m sorry I made the mistake of sharing it online because people actually realised how horrific my view of women is and tried to hold me accountable”. What she’s actually saying.
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@getabass
There’s so much that’s problematic in her statements. I find her attempt to use the abuser’s eternal fate as a way to coerce and manipulate someone into maintaining a relationship with him particularly insidious.
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A post like this also makes me feel sad for wives stuck in a life that is so narrow and devoid of things that bring joy. I don’t know how any normal husband would be ok with his wife living that kind of life either.
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I fear Daisy has succumbed to feminism and the Jezebel spirit. Despite my patriarchal instructions not to roll around in the garden bed, she flagrantly disobeyed and shows no remorse. Anyone know if Michael/Debi Pearl have written a book about this? “To Train Up a Dog”, perhaps?
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For anyone who wants a more comprehensive critique of her teaching, here is my article about her. I also have a podcast interview coming out this month where I discussed Lori with a cult expert and therapist.
Here is my article about The Transformed Wife: “The Cult of Lori Alexander”. It examines some of the ways her teachings and ministry share similarities to characteristics of cults. (CW: child abuse, sexual abuse)
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@godlywomanhood
Your teaching is spiritually abusive and unbiblical. Emotions in marriage are not satanic. A good husband wants to know how his wife is feeling so he can better understand how to love her and meet her emotional needs.
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Just this morning I was thinking that what Twitter needs is more professing Christians with a persecution complex.
Joking aside-for the thousandth time, please stop claiming persecution when you’re just being held accountable for harmful and unbiblical teaching.
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Ok, this is probably my favourite response to my article so far…Even when so obviously called out by a man, she still finds a way to blame women.
Also, if you think that article was me acting like a toddler, you should see me when I’m hungry…
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I appreciate this summary someone wrote of my article and Lori’s response to it. It gets to the heart of what I wrote. I hope people (including Lori’s followers) will take a moment to consider what I’ve written, especially the sources I’ve provided of Lori’s own words.
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@emilykmay
I feel like if he was, his lawyers would have attempted to use that as part of his legal defence in his trial.
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#Thingsthebibleneversays
There are so many problems with this it’s hard to know where to begin. This is ultimately the problem with elevating and distorting a secondary doctrine in scripture. Inevitably it gets put in the place of Jesus and the Gospel as the way of salvation.
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@Susan9351758120
Yes, but I would also be concerned about her physical and emotional well being and would try and find out the reason for her lack of interest. It’s astonishing that she reduces sex to merely a physical transaction while claiming her teaching is biblical.
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“No actual arguments”… “attacking and slandering me instead of arguing against what I teach”…
I wrote a 12,000 word article mostly referencing Lori’s own words which begs to differ. She responded to my critique by accusing me of being a woman pretending to be a man 🤷♂️
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@piper4missouri
In case you’re interested, I recently wrote an article about Lori’s teachings.
Here is my article about The Transformed Wife: “The Cult of Lori Alexander”. It examines some of the ways her teachings and ministry share similarities to characteristics of cults. (CW: child abuse, sexual abuse)
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@TomBuck
I think the problem with a sweeping statement like yours is that it insulates the church against legitimate criticism too. How would one know if a mistake was made if one immediately assumes it’s just a ‘woke attack’?
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@TomBuck
Isn’t Hohn Cho a conservative, evangelical Christian who opposes social justice though?
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@EmilyD821655960
@AdrianaTX2022
No, no one deserves to be cheated on. I don’t wish harm on her or her husband. I’m just calling out her harmful teaching.
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@Phil_Johnson_
@KSPrior
Phil, this is the type of response one would expect from a teenage troll, not a seasoned pastor. Please remember that as someone in public ministry there are undoubtedly people who look up to you. I have found some of your online behaviour tremendously puzzling and discouraging.
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It’s unspeakably cruel to tell a woman abandoned by her husband that she “got something out of it” and that she bears responsibility for it.
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Self-awareness is not her strong suit, is it?
The second and third screenshots are comments in response to the article I wrote about Lori:
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I refuse to accept anyone who claims to be one of the “very few lonely voices” speaking for God. I’ve studied enough about cults to know how that scenario ends. It is the height of religious narcissism to assume that God is that dependent on you to communicate truth to the world.
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And once again, I’m begging Christians to stop conflating their own opinions with God’s word and accusing people of being offended by it. I don’t hate God’s word. I hate Lori’s twisting of it.
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I was today years old when I discovered that I’m not saved because I used the word eisegesis and someone on the internet didn’t know what it meant.
Also, I don’t really compose love songs. I did give a haunting rendition of ‘Kiss the Girl’ at a karaoke night one time though.
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@MeAndKitties
She also seems unable to comprehend that couples have sex for emotional intimacy too, not just physical reasons. It makes me quite sad for her.
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@godlywomanhood
A marriage that only survives because the husband has made the wife financially dependent by removing her autonomy is neither healthy or biblical. Believe it or not, decent guys don’t actually have to financially coerce their wives into staying with them.
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@TheTransformedW
It’s not just stupid demands. It includes demands that would potentially be dangerous. I addressed this in my recent article about her.
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A post by a pastor shared on The Transformed Wife’s website. A story of a man expressing thankfulness for his mother’s strong faith when his father abandoned the family.
The response? The wife benefited from her husband’s absence and bore a large part of the responsibility.
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@WomnOfValor
Pearl’s books was also the catalyst that launched The Transformed Wife’s “ministry”.
Here is my article about The Transformed Wife: “The Cult of Lori Alexander”. It examines some of the ways her teachings and ministry share similarities to characteristics of cults. (CW: child abuse, sexual abuse)
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@getabass
@godlywomanhood
This was a comment left in response to a Reddit post about my article. There are very real and devastating consequences to her teaching.
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The preacher goes on to assign blame to the girls who apparently 'bewitch' the men who look at them. It's difficult for me to understand why people willingly go to listen to this man. I hesitate to even call this a sermon. This is just an angry man hurling insults at adolescents.
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@getabass
@godlywomanhood
Apparently the one thing her pastors and elders don’t do is correct congregants who have online ministries which promote unbiblical teaching.
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It’s hard to choose, but in my opinion Lori’s teaching that Christians don’t suffer from mental health issues is among her most harmful teachings.
Think of William Cowper, a close friend of John Newton. Cowper wrote the famous hymn “There Is a Fountain Filled With Blood”. (1/2)
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My thanks to
@getabass
and
@RoCa74394915
who were invaluable resources when finding some of the content I needed from
@godlywomanhood
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@getabass
The fact that she had said no is a detail Lori left out later when she received the backlash too. That just seems dishonest to me.
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@AdrianaTX2022
I don’t believe her husband ever cheated on her. I looked into their story while researching the article I wrote on her and I don’t believe either of them have ever been unfaithful.
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@JessupShannon
The funny thing is that most fundamentalists would be shocked and appalled if they knew about the lifestyles of many of those “dead white men” 😊 I remember a Christian who was shocked when I mentioned that Tchaikovsky was gay.
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@_nomadic_soul
Turns out there’s in fact very little that’s biblical in the people who talk almost exclusively about “biblical womanhood”. When you peel back the layers it’s really just their own opinions and preferences masquerading as Christian.
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@MuiRebekah
In case you’re interested, I recently wrote an article about her.
Here is my article about The Transformed Wife: “The Cult of Lori Alexander”. It examines some of the ways her teachings and ministry share similarities to characteristics of cults. (CW: child abuse, sexual abuse)
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@CarissaCaples
The thing that always struck me ironic as a guy is the fact that the extreme forms of purity culture always denounced the objectification of women. Ironically, fixating on the appearance/clothes/gestures did a lot more to objectify the women than they realised.
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@saltyliberal74
As a guy I just don’t understand how a husband can be ok with that dynamic in their marriage. I’d be so unhappy if I was in a marriage where my wife wasn’t able to live a meaningful life, do the things she enjoys, and connect with friends and family regularly.
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@SolaSisters
*pastor explodes at the slightest bit of criticism*
Same pastor: “why do people stay anonymous when giving us criticism and feedback?”
It’s a mystery 🙄
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Does this mean our mini-golf excursion this weekend is cancelled, Kenneth?
I’m starting to get the sense he’s not the biggest fan of my writing.
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Yesterday's sermon at
#KwaSizabantu
specifically addressed adolescent girls. In addition to weird descriptions, the preacher went on to compare the way they walk to ducks before culminating in calling the girls 'old, fat cows'. He also laments children who have self-esteem.
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@SolaSisters
“I probably need to get some help.” Yes.
Honestly, I’m just surprised that for an experienced minister such a triviality elicited such a hostile response. I would have been very uncomfortable if I was sitting in that service.
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@JanaB5555
I seem to recall that a preached called her out (
@ostrachan
if I’m not mistaken). But seriously, someone needs to actually step in and do something about her “ministry”.
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Just a reminder to all pastors: if you publicly make horrible comments which objectify women (or any other horrible comments for that matter) and people call you out on it, you aren’t being persecuted. You’re being held accountable and given a chance for public repentance.
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Some of the people mentioned in the article:
@meganphelps
,
@EBee40
,
@daniellamyoung
,
@CultExpert
,
@elizabethprata
,
@DefendTheSheep
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@johnnarae
Historically, revival within Protestant circles is generally viewed as an unusual work of God where a group of Christians is granted an extraordinary sense of God’s presence. Accompanying this is repentance among the Christians and often large numbers of conversions.
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@_nomadic_soul
Bad theology can definitely have an adverse effect on mental health. The group my church was part of believes and teaches that every time you sin you’re on your way to hell until you confess your sins to a “counsellor”. I know of one person who ended their own life as a result.
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Some of you asked to be tagged when the article was finished.
@saltyliberal74
,
@TheoManBabies
,
@Lily_Warrior
,
@Circlecitybelle
. Sorry if I’ve forgotten anyone.
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@TheoManBabies
Perhaps their constant need to convince the world that their lifestyle is the way of true happiness is mostly an attempt to convince themselves of that.
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While we are on the subject of Ken- this is an utterly inappropriate comment to make to a woman. If as a man you ever find yourself bragging to a woman online about your sex life before asking about hers, it’s time to close down your account and do a lot of reflection.
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@_nomadic_soul
I’ll never understand why they always choose mockery and sarcasm as the way to engage with people they disagree with. Finding a time when Christ used vitriolic mockery in the Gospels might be the real challenge…
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@sheilagregoire
I made a bingo card for just such an occasion. The responses by pastor’s when something problematic is exposed are so predictable…
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@_nomadic_soul
I wonder if instead of viewing male leadership as the solution to all marital problems, churches would do well to teach and encourage healthy communication as foundational to a good marriage. Why wouldn’t I want the input of my wife on making decisions?
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@lindsayfickas
Hard to pick one…my church didn’t allow engaged couples to speak to each other or spend time together until they were saying their vows at the wedding. First time they were alone together was the wedding night. (Dating prior to engagement was forbidden too).
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@DelaKram75
I’m always reminded of this quote from Martyn Lloyd Jones when people claim persecution for ridiculous reasons.
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@CynthiaKLauer
Exactly. It’s always framed in terms of ‘duty’, ‘submission’ etc. It actually makes me sad for them.
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@holytension
It’s not only honorary doctorates. It’s also a problem that Christians are claiming the doctor title when they’ve gotten their “PhD” from an unaccredited institution or a diploma mill. (Eg See James White and Kent Hovind).
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If given the choice between reading my writing and reading Shakespeare, always read Shakespeare.
For some reason the fact that this woman’s name is Grace is hilarious to me.
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@theobro4sammich
I’m pretty sure Nathan mentions leggings while confronting David and calls Bathsheba a seductive wolf. Oh wait, no. He describes her as a lamb. Funny how all through the Bible lambs are used as a symbol of innocence/purity…it’s almost like Nathan thinks she’s innocent…
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@getabass
@godlywomanhood
Legalism is a slippery slope that never ends. The rules are arbitrary and based on personal preference. The group I grew up in was so strict they wouldn’t have regarded Lori as a true Christian because she dated and wears earrings and pants. The standard is always subjective.
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Man, that Daniel guy sounds like a bit of a downer at parties…🤣
Apparently my article hurt a few feelings…I’m not even a little bit sorry.
@AnnaGraceWood
Dans article was an accurate representation of Lori supported by screenshots of HER OWN WORDS. There’s no “vendetta” against her & she’s not a “good woman”. She’s a spiritual abuser who promotes marital rape, dv, child abuse, abuse of women, & toxic masculinity
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@_nomadic_soul
I really don’t think people realise how culturally specific our perceptions of masculine and feminine characteristics are when applied to music and art. For example, countertenors would be labeled as feminine by many these days because they don’t understand the history.
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@Teevho
@bezalelplace
Yeah, my old church wouldn’t have been a fan either. They even tried to ban tank tops for men which amused me. Believe me, no woman has ever looked at my arms with anything except pity that I seem to lack access to a gym…
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@daydream113017
It’s bizarre. I grew up in a very patriarchal religious system, and even they didn’t go to these extremes when it came to women’s roles.
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@Urtoez75_2
@RoCa74394915
@getabass
Yep. Just two examples of cults currently operating by the same logic: Glorivale and KwaSizabantu
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@_nomadic_soul
We grew up conservative enough that my sisters weren’t allowed barbie dolls. They got American Girls dolls instead and the corresponding books. Good news is most of what I know about American history I learned from those books. Having never lived in the US, they were informative.
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@_nomadic_soul
@justsay72153365
@Phil_Johnson_
This really bothers me about some conservative leaders. They claim an issue like masks is a matter of conscience but then use mockery toward those who do choose to wear one. Leaders have a responsibility not to model contempt for fellow Christians who differ on secondary issues.
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@godlywomanhood
@adventuRusfam
Lori, even by your standards this is absolutely appalling. Christian marriage is meant to be a reflection of Christ’s love for the church. You’re advocating for abuse in a way that is truly horrific. You ask where grace is? Where is the accountability for the husband?
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@Teevho
It’s both tragic and comical that even when so obviously called out by a man, she still finds a way to blame women.
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@BeKindST398
She was born 1958. Married in 1980. Claims she was an unsubmissive wife for 23 years. Which means her “ministry” started right around the time she became a “submissive wife” at about 45. It looks like what I wrote in my article was spot on.
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@godlywomanhood
Could you imagine how a single mother who is forced to work and raise children might feel if they read your condemnation of them? They are often already physically and emotionally completely exhausted, and the fact that you’re implying they’re second-rate Christians is evil.
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@TomBuck
Fair enough. I suppose my bigger point is that no individual or organisation should be above scrutiny. If the Bible teaches us anything it’s that even Godly men get it wrong sometimes. I think it can be dangerous to assume that a group is always in the right as a default position
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@CalabreseRose
@TheoManBabies
I’d hate to see how this plays out when the husband notices another man engaging in friendly conversation with his wife. Perhaps that’s why some men on here accuse women of trying to commit adultery with them just because they engage in a dialogue with them.
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@CrystalCusses
@FrenlyOfficer
If I was married I’d assume I’m doing something very wrong if my wife viewed sex on equal terms with changing a diaper. Not sure why so many men seem intent on the idea of sex with a reluctant partner…
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@aprilajoyr
The group I’ve been exposing on twitter doesn’t allow any dating or contact between engaged couples. They claim God shows the man who to marry. Funnily enough God always seems to show the men to marry the most attractive women and never once told a guy to marry interracially.
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@_nomadic_soul
That’s an aspect that I think is missing in some of the “women should always submit” discourse. How on earth do guys enjoy sex if they know their partner is participating only out of obligation because scripture has been used to coerce them?
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