George Martin
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How anti-vegan comments would look on tragic news stories (a thread) [1]
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Eating the flesh of defenceless animals in order to "feel masculine" and avoid being made fun of by other men is a sign of insecurity in masculinity. True masculinity is doing what's right regardless of what others think.
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@robertlufkinmd
How many Carnists actually read the ingredients on their corpse burgers? The ingredients are not "grass-fed beef" 😂🤦♂️
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Being told you're "brainwashed" as a vegan while living in a society of people walking past you mindlessly chewing corpses like zombies is something else.
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Humans share 98% of their DNA with pigs. Carnism is borderline cannibalism.
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What the fuck is "heroic" about eating bacon? 😂 Answers on a postcard.
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The "Carnivore diet" preys on men's insecurity in their own masculinity.
At a time when men are more insecure about their masculinity than ever, Big Beef has ramped up its propaganda to capitalise on the fact that insecure men don't want to be seen as a "soyboy".
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Religion is getting people to believe in things they can't see. Veganism is getting people to see things they don't want to believe.
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Veganism isn't about whether you like or dislike certain foods—it's about whether you like or dislike slavery.
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Wanna see a magic trick?
Tell someone you're vegan and watch them turn into a nutritionist, an anthropologist, and a philosopher right before your very eyes!
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The psychopathic torment humans inflict on animals will one day be looked back on in the same light as other historical atrocities.
Non-vegans: which side of history do you want to be on?
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I tried meat-eating once and found that I got sick every year. My uncle is a non-vegan and his hair fell out. I have a colleague at work who is a meat-eater and she has had several days off sick this year. Did you hear about that non-vegan celeb, Brittany Murphy? She died.
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Animals are so oppressed that even the oppressed oppress them. What makes this undeniable fact even worse is that they oppress no one.
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Showing slaughterhouse footage to the public shouldn't be a crime...hiding it from them should be.
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Why I believe the 'Carnivore diet' is a meat industry psyop (a thread): [1]
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Anti-vegan logic: feeding a dog a nutritionally adequate plant-based diet is animal abuse, but gassing, caging, electrocuting, stabbing, raping and suffocating trillions of animals every year to turn them into burgers and handbags isn't.
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Insanity is thinking that the world's largest rainforest is being cut down every second to grow soy to feed a few million vegans and not tens of billions of farmed animals 😂
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"How can veganism not include human rights? It's a social justice movement!"
Yes, exactly. Name literally one other social justice movement that makes it about the rights of the oppressor.
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Saying, "I don't wanna be vegan cos you have to supplement B12" is like saying, "I don't wanna be hygienic cos you have to shower and brush your teeth."
Both attitudes are gross; both condemn the use of modern science and make absurd appeals to nature.
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Best t-shirt at the National Animal Rights March on Saturday. 💚
Photo credit: rosamarino. online (Instagram)
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If you oppose a vegan world, you oppose ending animal abuse. There is no simpler way to put it.
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Smoking, drinking, eating meat: all things marketers throughout history have promoted as "masculine"; all things that cause cancer and kill men younger than women due to their comparatively higher consumption.
Promoting things that harm men is not "masculine"—it's anti-men.
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Vegan arguments. We got:
- Truth
- Video footage
- Science
Anti-vegan arguments. They got:
- Anecdotes
- Studies on plant feelings by paranormalists
- Bacon GIFs
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So many Carnist "free thinkers" on this platform who talk about the "New World Order" and being "controlled by the elites" while simultaneously gargling Big Beef's balls.
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What is the morally relevant trait difference between children and animals that makes it sick, cowardly and depraved to harm children but "masculine", alpha and moral to harm animals?
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"We have dominion over animals."
"We're at the top of the food chain."
Right, so you use your position of power to bully and oppress those less powerful than you, as opposed to protecting them? Totally not a dick move.
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If the media reported on non-vegans dying the way it reports on vegans dying...
Image thread
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"Decolonise your veganism."
Veganism already is "decolonised", dipshit. Every single colonial power in history was Carnist and mandated animal oppression. Veganism is inherently a rejection and a spit in the face of every coloniser who ever walked the earth.
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"Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will." — Joseph Goebbels
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Carnism is a form of submission. It's basically saying, "OK industry, you win...I will compromise on my moral values and do something I know deep down is wrong, because, it taste too good and, well, ya got me. Here, have some money."
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The fake wokes who tell vegans to "listen to the voice of Indigenous people" ought to watch Ep. 8 of Planet Earth III and listen to the indigenous woman Alessandra of the Munduruku:
"Our forest, our Amazon, is being destroyed for you to have your chicken farm, your pig farm."
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"You vegans won't change anyone with this kind of rhetoric, or shock footage...show people delicious plant-based recipes inste..."
No.
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I'd rather be a pushy vegan than a pushover vegan.
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The vegan position on crop deaths is consistent. If humans died in crop harvesting (and indeed they do), we would still eat crops. But if humans were bred, enslaved, caged, gassed and stabbed, we would not support that or eat their body parts. We apply the same logic to animals.
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@CosmicSkeptic
Seems even the most logical minds can turn to brick dust when it comes to being vegan. Disappointing, mate, you're way better than this. Being vegan and healthy is piss easy.
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Vegan food is sourced using tools. Non-vegan food is sourced using WEAPONS. Remind me again who the "militant" ones are? 🤔
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Making vegan advocacy about health or the environment creates the very culture of selfishness we are trying to destroy in our society.
Such advocacy would sound utterly insulting in the context of any other justice issue.
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People who argue "animals have no souls" as a justification to kill/abuse them should have to provide objective proof of ownership of a soul themselves or be forced to give up their human rights.
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Why is anti-natalism never discussed as a solution to human conflicts? The fact that people force children into warzones via procreation is just bewildering.
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I just received the most pathetic response in history from Charlie Kirk / his team member Ryan, after I reached out to them offering to debate Charlie on veganism and animal rights. Honestly, that reply is just embarrassing.
My response is included.
@_rymarty
@charliekirk11
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"White veganism"...an imaginary tool intersectionals (or possibly the meat industry) created, to slow down the progression of animal liberation.
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Carnists who say the morally relevant trait difference between humans and animals is that animals "don't have a soul" (therefore it's OK to enslave and kill them):
Care to provide us with objective proof that you have a soul?
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Vegan: *Wakes up with intention of trying to create a better world; bases purchases around minimising suffering, abuse and oppression; tries to create positive change.*
Anti-vegan drifting through life without a single fuck given about anything: "Crop deaths tho."
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You don't have the right to commit rights violations.
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Ex-vegan:
*Slips on banana skin on Mario Kart*
"Veganism nearly killed me."
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Carnist logic: "I am not responsible for cows having their throats slit in the slaughterhouse, but vegans are 100% responsible for bees being eaten by mites in the avocado industry."
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Carnists be like, "I have literally no interest whatsoever in creating a vegan world and would actually very much rather that didn't happen. But you should totally take advocacy advice from me on how to effectively promote veganism".
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In order to work, Carnism must rely on:
- societal ignorance
- addiction
- defence mechanisms
- denial of evidence
- mental gymnastics
- conditioning
- recycled myths
Veganism relies on awakening, acknowledgement, personal responsibility, and altruism.
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Q: What do meat-eaters and vegans have in common?
A: We both think vegetarianism is bullshit.
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Veganism isn't about humans...but nonetheless, you're gonna sound pretty hypocritical if your reason for not going vegan is you "prioritise humans" while funding the leading causes of pandemics, antibiotic resistance, workplace injury/PTSD, and displacement of indigenous people.
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Tone-policing is one of the most pervasive forms of anti-vegan aggression. You are within your right as a vegan to use whatever language and analogies you want to describe history's worst atrocity.
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Fun new game for vegans: when a Carnist gets triggered by the name of a vegan product, look up what their name means.
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"If you have no compassion to animals, you deserve NONE in return."
— Gary Yourofsky
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Funny how people say "some people can't afford to be vegan" when celebs seem to be the ones who "found it too hard to be vegan" while us plebs are managing just fine.
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@AaronWere1994
Veganism is simply a rejection of animal slavery. It goes far beyond food. It is disordered thinking to want to abuse animals needlessly.
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Carnism is doing what you're told, no matter what's right. Veganism is doing what's right, no matter what you're told.
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If Carnists want to use the "food chain" argument to kill other earthlings, they can't exempt themselves from it either. That means, they can't go screaming bloody murder if someone wants to kill and eat them.
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Christian non-vegans: were you aware you'd have also supported black slavery at the time, given the Bible was also used to justify that?
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Someone who eats a plant-based diet and then "quits veganism" is no more a "vegan" than a New Year's resolutioner who goes down the gym for 1 month and then quits the gym is a "bodybuilder".
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The excuse "God gave us dominion over animals" came from the fact that humans think that they ARE "God"!
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Lions when Carnivore dieters use the struggles of lions in nature to justify needlessly eating animals in human technological society.
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How the arguments for HUMAN slavery are the same as the arguments for farmed ANIMAL slavery (a thread) [1]
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TLDR: male Carnivore dieters who troll vegans are mostly a bunch of soyboys who eat meat because their masculinity feels threatened.
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If vegetarians and vegans were so similar, every vegetarian would instantly go vegan as soon as you tell them about what happens in animal agriculture.
The fact that they don't shows a clear difference in values, ethics, and willpower.
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Plant-based diets: good enough to fuel professional powerlifters, MMA fighters, and olympic weight lifters; not good enough to fuel gym-shy philosophy dorks from Oxford University.
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What's the dumbest thing an anti-vegan has ever said to you?
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"LOL, vegans feeding their dogs plant food are so dumb. I would never abuse my dog like that! My dog is a predator, dogs are natural hunters, NOT VEGANS!"
Their dog:
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"You vegans are so rich and privileged. And anway, why don't you all stop protesting and get a job like the rest of us." 🤡
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@JohnnyWatson3
@CosmicSkeptic
Oh look everyone, the nutritional expert with a masters from School of Hard Knocks / University of Life is here.
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@TomValentinoo
What's next? Holding a live cat underwater for fish to surround and nibble on?
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Them: "HAHAHA! Would it be ethical for super-intelligent ALIENS to enslave and farm me for meat?! What a dumb and irrelevant question. Totally not relevant to my situation 🤣🤣"
Also them: "I will not go vegan because there are people living in the North Pole who can't."
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Dismissing veganism as “white-privileged” because “there are parts of the world where people can’t go vegan” is like dismissing gay rights advocacy as white-privileged because there are parts of the world where you can face legal repercussions for speaking up for gay rights.
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Impoverished kid in non-Western country: lives off a bowl of rice and a sack of potatoes a week for 14 years.
Westerner arguing with vegans: "I was vegan for 6 months and it nearly killed me."
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