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People mock Giants' crowds, but they're judging them by AFL standards, not Sydney standards.
Today's crowd was higher than two Sydney NRL crowds this round. The Giants have found their niche in Sydney.
And that niche will only grow when they play there full time.
AFL: GWS Giants v Port Adelaide. Crowd: 8,914 @ Engie Stadium (Sydney). Event Details:
#AFLGiantsPower
#ausport
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@FOXFOOTY
The easy solution is a 20th team. In Canberra.
Largest unrepresented AFL fanbase of any team.
You know it makes sense.
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So, it's official, Manuka Oval has hosted more people than Giants Stadium over the 2022 AFL season.
Despite hosting two games fewer games (four compared to six), 2,599 more people went through the gates at Manuka Oval.
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@BradKlibansky
Canberra has the largest unrepresented AFL fanbase of any city.
You can't be a national competition without the national capital.
Canberra for Team 20.
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The latest crowd at Manuka (13,080) received almost as much as the latest crowds at Western Sydney and Hobart combined (13,399). And our crowd was capped.
What more do we need to do to show we deserve a team?!
AFL: Adelaide Crows d North Melbourne. Crowd: 4,727 @ Blundstone Arena (Hobart). Event Details:
#AFLNorthCrows
#ausport
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@1116sen
Canberra!
We have more unrepresented AFL fans than any other city. Even more than Hobart.
We have four times the population of Darwin, more AFL fans, more money, and plenty of public servants with free weekends.
Can't have a national competition without the national capital.
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@FOXFOOTY
It's not a binary option. Canberra makes more sense than either of them.
Greater Canberra has four times the population of Darwin, and most importantly, more unrepresented AFL fans than any other city.
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Canberra deserves the next AFL and AFLW teams after Tasmania.
• 9 games in Canberra
• 1 game in Wagga
• 1 game in Albury-Wodonga
GWS has been amazing for Aussie Rules in Canberra, but as their fan bases continues to grow in Western Sydney, we'll be ready for our own team.
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@7NewsAdelaide
@joshmoney__
@7AFL
Adelaide's too small for a third team.
Go somewhere new. Canberra's the only new market capable of sustaining a team.
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@triplemfooty
@TomBrowne7
How tf is Canberra not the next choice?
More AFL fans than any city without a team (GWS doesn't represent us any more than North represents Hobart).
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Different circumstances, but seeing these figures is frustrating.
If Canberra got these crowds, we'd be written off as "just a rugby town".
Yet our last game got almost triple this, we get bigger crowds than Darwin, and we're still barely in the expansion conversation.
AFL: North Melbourne v Port Adelaide. Crowd: 4,706 @ Blundstone Arena (Hobart). Event Details:
#AFLNorthPower
#ausport
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@1629senSA
Total disrespect to Canberra.
More AFL fans than any city without a team.
Four times the population of Darwin.
Lets GWS focus on their primary market in Western Sydney.
Time for the national capital in the national competition.
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@3AWisfootball
Canberra is the only real option.
We have more unrepresented AFL fans than any other city.
WA3 is just redistributing fans
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Plans to bring Manuka to 20k?
Positive signs for a future Canberra AFL team.
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Canberrans love their footy 😍
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Great turn out at Manuka!
This fixture averages 9567 in Western Sydney.
Once again proving how ready we are for a team of our own.
AFL: GWS Giants d St Kilda. Crowd: 12,448 @ Manuka Oval (Canberra). Event Details:
#AFLGiantsSaints
#ausport
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@footyindustryAU
Darwin and Cairns are 1600km away.
That's further apart than Brisbane and Melbourne.
It's going to mean a hell of a lot of travelling for the players and staff.
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If more than 4,739 people come to
#AFLGiantsFreo
on Saturday, Manuka Oval's aggregate attendance will surpass Giants Stadium's for the 2022 season (for four and six games respectively).
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@FanCastAFL
Canberra.
We have the largest unrepresented fanbase of any city. Would also give a greater presence in the Riverina.
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The Giants aren't more popular in Canberra than they are in Western Sydney. AFL is, that's why we get bigger crowds.
But GWS still had 3x more Sydney-based members.
Moving them to Canberra is stupid.
A new team for Canberra and a full-time WS team is the best way forward.
"The Giants are more popular in Canberra than they are in Western Sydney."
Could the
#AFL
take over if the Raiders lose their biggest drawcard?
✍️
@BuzzRothfield
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'Canberra is just a bad idea'
C'mon
@thefootywithbro
and
@marnievinall
, we know you love Canberra, it's time we get a team!
We have the most unrepresented AFL fans of any city.
And three games a year just isn't enough to help grow the game here.
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"The AFL is poised to target a new expansion location to bring a 20th team into the league following a long-awaited move into Tasmania - so what about Canberra?" -
@canberratimes
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When asked about a Canberra AFL team, the majority of Canberrans say they would be supportive (at least in r/canberra):
And the most popular name for a team? The Canberra Griffins.
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Canberra has hosted three of GWS' top four non-derby crowds
Yet we get the scraps
GWS gets💰to bring travelling AFL fans to Canberra
But Giants Stadium hosted Essendon, Carlton and Richmond, while we just get the smaller clubs👇
Only a full-time club will bring the big teams
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Manuka Oval games averaged 3,701 more people than Showgrounds Stadium - or 60.6% larger crowds.
Once again, this is not to disparage GWS, but to show that Canberra is more than capable of hosting our own full-time team.
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@megisabella_
That's every game at Manuka.
Can usually tick off the full 18 teams by quarter time.
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To the ~8k people who voted for Canberra, give us a follow, let's make this happen.
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Throughout the 2022 AFL men's season, there was an average of 21.4k empty seats at Perth Stadium.
They're not crying out for more AFL.
On the other hand, the nation's capital only gets three men's games a year.
Canberra still makes the most sense for Team 20.
WA is ready for a third AFL team to balance out the league should Tasmania be given the green light to join the competition, according to a growing chorus of prominent leaders and experts.
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Vote
#1
Canberra
21 questions on all things footy.
Share your opinions on the competition with 's fan survey 🗳️
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@footyindustryAU
Or you can go to a city pretty much the same size, wealthier, and with a stronger AFL following...
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@JordanTHFCFFC
Canberra doesn't need a new stadium.
Manuka needs an upgrade, but the ACT Government and Cricket ACT are already pushing for that.
Canberra is perfect for Team 20.
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@1116sen
Canberra makes the most sense for the 20th team.
We have more unrepresented AFL fans than any other city (no, GWS doesn't count).
You can't have a national competition without a team in the national capital.
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The crowd at today's
#AFLGiantsSuns
match was also 20.7% bigger than any equivalent match held in Sydney (the largest being 8,308 in 2016).
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@ollycaffrey
@AAPSport
He's saying that to get the heat off North, and he's half right. North aren't going anywhere, the competition will expand to 20.
But Canberra is a much better option.
Greater Canberra has four times the population of Darwin and the largest unrepresented AFL fanbase of any city
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Congratulations to Tasmania for your in-principle AFL license.
We look forward to seeing you on the field in the coming years.
Now this paves the way for Team 20, we hope to be on the field with you not long after.
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"The dark horse option of the group has some good numbers behind it but also one big, big, orange problem."
Canberra only makes up 20% of Giants' members.
Just because our crowds are good doesn't mean we're Giants territory.
We're no more Giants territory than Hobart is North
Gillon McLachlan believes a 20th AFL licence will come eventually.
@maxlaughton
breaks down who could be next in line when that day comes.
MORE >
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@Universal9168
Canberra.
Quadruple the population of Darwin. More AFL fans than any other city without a team.
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This is one of the many reasons why we love Jack Steele ❤
When asked what he would do if he were AFL CEO:
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@FOXFOOTY
Do you think Canberra should come in as Team 20 after Tasmania?
More unrepresented AFL fans than any other city, and it allows the Giants to focus on Western Sydney.
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'Where's the 20th go?' -
@JacobGaynor
'Personally I wouldn't mind another Adelaide or Perth team.' -
@padreverdi
C'mon guys, where's the love for your hometown?
The Giants have been great for Canberra, but we need a full-time team of our own.
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@1116sen
Just because it's the most popular doesnt mean it's viable. Darwin will be a financial blackhole, its own scoping report said so.
Canberra makes the most sense for the 20th team.
Greater Canberra has 4x the population of Darwin and would bring footy to the Riverina heartland.
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"Canberra may end up being a shock choice as the league's 20th franchise.
The nation's capital already boasts fulltime sporting organisations in the Raiders and Brumbies - and prominent figures behind the scenes are believed to be also eyeing off an AFL team long term."
The AFL could get a new team from a VERY surprising spot - as four bids are prepared to become the league's 20th side
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@jamesmassola
Yes, Canberra absolutely makes sense.
More AFL fans than any other city without a team.
It's time for the national capital to be included in the national competition.
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@footyindustryAU
Then they need to make the leap and have GWS in Sydney full-time.
No point putting in the hard yards for a generation, but not fully committing to the city.
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Looking forward to Canberra joining so we can host LilFreeze at Manuka Oval to complement
#BigFreeze8
We won't even have to ice up the water.
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Excellent video on why Canberra should be the 20th Team in the AFL.
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GWS Giants crowds at Manuka Oval proof Canberra is ready for AFL team - great article in the
@canberratimes
by
@cameron_mee1
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@codeaflau
@ByElizaReilly
Pfft, Canberra makes more sense than WA3.
A new team in the capital would attract new fans, not just redistribute them.
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'I think I'd give 20, just because they bullied us a lot last time we talked about this, to Canberra.'
Thanks for the support
@thefootywithbro
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“I would bring in a 20th AFL team and put it in Canberra,” said Jack Steele.
He's got our vote for CEO.
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Canberra and Darwin have now both hosted two games each in 2022.
Average crowds
Canberra: 11,434
Darwin: 6,520
Canberra crowds have been 75% higher.
Canberra continues to make the most sense to enter after Tasmania.
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Hopefully Canberra won't be an afterthought in 2024.
In 2023, Manuka hosted all of the Giants' smaller games.
The average membership totals of opposition teams at Giants Stadium were 73% higher than at Manuka.
Our tax dollars pay for the Giants, we deserve the big teams, too.
The AFL plans to release the 2024 fixture in a fortnight as clubs prepare to open the season with a northern-states twist.
@ClarkyHeraldSun
has the latest.
DETAILS:
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Did you know that in 1981, Canberra became the first non-Victorian city to bid for a team in the VFL.
Four decades later, Tasmania is set to become the 9th non-Victorian AFL club.
Hopefully we can soon join them as the 20th club, and the 10th non-Victorian.
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@1116sen
Cmon Bruce. Gotta go Canberra first. We've got four times as many people as Darwin within an hour of Manuka.
Can't be a national competition without the national capital.
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@westaustralian
Canberra makes more sense anyway.
Largest unrepresented AFL fanbase of any city.
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@real_mayohosko
@AFL
@brisbanelions
@CollingwoodFC
You'd be in the minority.
One extra night of footy, what's not to love?!
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As long as GWS plays in Canberra, relocation commentary will continue.
One of the best things for a strong Giants in Western Sydney is a 20th team in Canberra.
Region's Tim Gavel takes the GWS Giants head on and asks why Manuka Oval shouldn't become their permanent home. And it seems crowd figures in Canberra support the move
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"If the AFL are financially able to support a 20th team, Canberra would be a logical choice."
- ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr
@ABarrMLA
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Canberra continues to show why it makes the most sense for a new club to enter alongside Tasmania.
It's time for the national capital to be represented in the national competition.
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Canberra seems the compromise candidate.
Enough of a population to work, and a “mixed market” for football codes right on the “Barassi Line”.
It wouldn’t be going into territory that is unfamiliar with Aussie Rules, or even hostile to it.
Following the announcement of the Tasmania Devils, is a 20th AFL team from Canberra also a viable option? On FOOTYOLOGY,
@TimHarcourt
looks at the pros and cons.
#footyology
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@FootyScran
Aussie rules is the only sport where the major score has to be scored with a foot.
If you can score with your head, is it really football?
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@SENWAMornings
@AFL
@MarkDuffield1
What does that 374k encompass? This website has it as 194k spread over a huge area.
Might as well have it Canberra, where you have 560k people within an hour of Manuka.
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Great news for Tasmania, but also great news for Canberra.
These numbers emphasise that Canberra has a strong AFL base. And importantly, those fans have money.
Per capita, more Canberrans bought a foundation jumper than any other state or territory (obviously excluding Tas).
Here's some of the places the Foundation Jumpers are headed. Now, we want to see them in the wild. Tag us and we’ll feature our favourites, including on the website.
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@3AWisfootball
This one hurts.
Canberra has hosted 54 regular season AFL men's games in our history. 54 more than Newcastle.
Still no respect.
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@marketingbypete
Eight games a year just isn't enough to cover such a huge market.
They have way more fans in Sydney than Canberra, they just have to cut the Canberra cord and focus on solidifying and growing that base.
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In 1992, an independent survey measured Canberran support for an AFL team.
51% said they'd go to games, 12% said they'd go to most or all games.
Even if those numbers halved since, that means Canberra could pull crowds of 30k with our current population (stadium allowing).
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@rohan_connolly
@TimHarcourt
Great article, Tim!
We really are the compromise option, but we prefer "goldilocks option".
Not too small, not too AFL, not too rugby, just right.
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@MattThompson
Canberra.
More AFL fans than any other city without a team.
And it lets GWS focus on Western Sydney.
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@FOXFOOTY
Canberra makes way more sense.
Canberra has triple the population of Darwin, higher crowds, more footy fans.
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Manuka Oval has the second highest crowds as a percentage of stadium capacity this year.
Canberrans keep showing up.
Credit: u/marvnation
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@PollyPorridge
Canberra would be an amazing spot for it.
Manuka is the perfect size for it. We love women's sport. We have most of the Giants' largest AFLW crowds.
Seven-hour drive from Melbourne, close to Sydney.
And plenty of empty hotel rooms when the politicians aren't in town.
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@ARJ7X
Gotta go Canberra.
Four times the population of Darwin.
More unrepresented AFL fans than any other city.
Let's GWS focus on the huge market of Western Sydney.
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Thanks
@maxlaughton
for the shout out!
A great discussion talking about the merits of Canberra as Team 20 from 38:50 on
@foxfooty
"The WA3 option makes the most sense to me … I think that would work well, but Canberra is also a good option."
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Canberra's in the conversation regarding a 20th team.
"The Northern Territory or Canberra as new markets, or a third team in either footy-mad Perth or Adelaide, would be the most logical candidates to host the 20th club."
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@thefootyalmanac
@TimHarcourt
Gotta be Canberra.
Greater Canberra has four times the population of Darwin.
But hopefully Darwin will grow enough to get a look-in at the next round of expansion.
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@zzzdettmann
Canberra has the Giants the same way Darwin has the Suns. Neither truly represent either place.
Canberra is four times bigger than Darwin. More people, more AFL fans, more money.
Canberra is just a way better option.
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Congratulations to
@laurakane__
on being appointed the new head of football.
If you need any help planning for a 20th team, hit us up. We have some ideas.
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Unrealistic proposal, but at least Eddie is recognising Canberra could host 11 games a year.
An interesting fixture proposal from the former Collingwood president... like it?
STORY:
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What the
@RaidersCanberra
could look like if they became the first club to have a team in both the AFL and NRL.
The Green Machine running around
@giostadium
and
@ManukaOval
?
Credit:
@bigfootynews
u/Klim c. 2015
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A logical look at why Canberra makes more sense than the NT for the 20th AFL licence:
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Reason
#1
why Canberra should get the 20th AFL team (a daily series).
In the past century, the VFL/AFL has never gone more than four years without an even number of teams.
A strong bid from Canberra for the 20th licence makes Tasmania’s case for the 19th more achievable.
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@theheraldsun
Gotta be Canberra
More unrepresented AFL fans than any other city (no, GWS doesn't count).
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@FOXFOOTY
*cough* Canberra *cough*
We've got triple the population of Darwin!
Surely the national capital needs to be in the national competition before the NT (alongside a new Tassie side).
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