Shouldn’t be a hot take: baptism with water in the name of the Holy Trinity actually saves, & scripture says that baptism is symbolic precisely zero times.
Honestly becoming Lutheran has been life changing for my wife & I, & we are so excited to raise our kids in this amazing freedom & love that we have in Christ. I wish I could convince everyone I know to become Lutheran.
Just so we're clear, everyone understands and agrees that both cannibalism and drinking blood are sins according to the Bible, correct? Why then would Jesus himself claim that we must sin and literally eat his flesh and drink his blood in order to get to heaven? It's absurd!
I teach my children that they are Christians because in Holy Baptism God called them His own, forgave them all their sins, & gave them the Holy Spirit Who creates faith in them to believe this. Withholding this from them is the work of the devil.
If you tell your children they are Christians when they have not put their faith in Jesus Christ, you are lying to them, and worse, you are pointing them to Hell.
If you wanna baptize babies until your blue in the face, by all means help yourself. But, we baptist hold to biblical view of baptism, which means immersion not sprinkle and it’s upon confession. That’s the overall theme of Acts, believe and be baptized.
Jesus: Let the little children come to me!
Baptists: But only when they’re old enough to make a credible profession that we can measure by our standards!
Lutherans: we believe the bread/wine are the true body/blood of Christ.
Reformed: so you believe in consubstantiation.
Lutherans: no we actually reject that *defines consubstantiation & our view*
Reformed: why do you believe in consubstantiation?
Uh-oh guys. Just realized that I had to wake up before 7am to take my kids to school before work. I never realized that my local Christian school was trying to manipulate me through sleep deprivation, but wow. Now I know. Guess I better look into public school…
In your mercy, please keep our youngest(Cade) in your prayers. He fell tonight at our relatives house & fractured his femur, & now has to be in a hip spica cast for the next few weeks. Pray for him & for us. This is so hard.
Scripture: Baptism saves and is for you and your children.
Baptists: No it’s dangerous and will send them to hell!
Remember folks, scripture trumps baptists.
Baptizing your baby is dangerous to their salvation.
But telling your kid their saved because they mumbled a prayer at 3 that they don't remember is equally dangerous to their salvation.
The sacraments are not good works you do to obey God. The sacrament of the altar isn’t just a nice time for you to remember Jesus. It is forgiveness, life, & salvation. It is God’s work of delivering salvation to you personally through His actual body & blood.
Haven’t posted this in a while so here goes for all the newbies:
Baptism saves, the Eucharist is the true body & blood of Christ, & absolution is a sacrament.
Went to church, confessed, was absolved, remembered my baptism, heard the Word, ate & drank Christ’s body & blood for the forgiveness of my sins. Good Sunday.
@TomBuck
Ah yes. Because medical issues are nonexistent. So tell me, is my daughters ADHD caused by sin or lack of faith? Should she just pray more and her neurological system will be made allistic?
@costiwhinn
@forthegospelmin
Yes they are. They are baptized children of God. You don’t have the authority to declare those He has called His own not His.
Babies are commanded by Christ to be baptized in the great commission. The demand that the specific word baby must be included would throw out much of the Christian faith that you yourself cling to.
Baptizing your baby is dangerous to their salvation.
But telling your kid their saved because they mumbled a prayer at 3 that they don't remember is equally dangerous to their salvation.
I can’t understand not wanting to have the sacrament of the altar weekly. The sacrament is the height of the divine service. It is our Savior literally come down in our midst, giving Himself to us, into our very mouths, for the forgiveness of our sins
I’ll gladly be stupid and receive the true body and blood of Christ for the forgiveness of my sins tomorrow at the Altar rather than cast my lot with the gnostics who rejected the truth of the blessed Sacrament of the Altar.
Welp. Omicron has struck our house. Just my wife so far. Hopefully it stays that way. Pray for her quick recovery, & the rest of us to stay well please.
Yesterday marks 5 months of being Lutheran & I can’t even put into words the differences it’s made in our lives. I’m so thankful for our wonderful parish & the wonderful theology it gives us through beautiful liturgy.
I’d choose the opposite without hesitation. Better to have the liturgy and the true Body and Blood of Christ than reject the very means Christ has given us for our salvation.
A Lutheran church in America literally dismantled their church and rebuilt it across the river because a Reformed congregation built their church close by.
“If we treat the Bible like “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth,” the central teaching of the Scriptures—the forgiving death of Jesus—is lost. The pages of the Bible are doused with the forgiving blood of Jesus.” - Bryan Wolfmueller
Funny, the scriptures are what lead me away from Baptist/Reformed(sorry Big R bros) theology. No I’m still not Roman Catholic, but the scriptures did lead me to embrace Evangelical Catholicism, & I have more in common with RC than my old theologies.
Want to know the
#1
reason why people leave the Catholic church?
They start reading their Bibles.
They end up realizing that the main beliefs of Catholicism either contradict the Bible, or are found nowhere in the Bible.
I’m Lutheran, so I unapologetically confess that the sacraments save, the necessity of baptism, etc, as did Luther.
So with that out in the open, am I(and Luther) also not Christians since these things were clearly labeled as reasons Rome is supposedly not Christian?
Go to church tomorrow. Confess & receive absolution. Remember your baptism. Hear the Word. Kneel at God’s altar & receive Christ’s true body & blood for the forgiveness of your sins. Then go in peace, serve the Lord.
You had a Christian convert to your modern sacrament rejecting sect of Christianity, and you will be getting her wet next week. Baptism cannot be repeated.
The amount of cradle Lutherans who claim the name while seeming to have disdain for actual Lutheran theology in favor of American evangelicalism is frightening.
I am so happy that I can look to my baptism instead of my own faith or my affections or my works for assurance these days. It really is a life changing thing.
Baptismal regeneration is the explicit teaching of scripture and the historically universal teaching of the Church. It should be affirmed by all Christians.
If you would’ve told me 10 years ago that I’d be excited about going to church to confess my sins & be absolved by a man in a clerical & vestments I’d have thought you were crazy, cAuSe ThAt’S cAtHoLiC.
@DrJordanBCooper
This is such a contradiction to Scriptures teachings on baptism.
Sir, you could not provide a single verse, or group of verses in context to support this.
Got told today that I’m “clinging to
papist unbiblical traditions” that are “simply gross, ungodly, man-centered
Cain-style offerings of worship”. He told me to have a nice day though, so there’s that.
We sang Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence(my favorite hymn) during communion yesterday. There’s something about the low notes coming from the organ in that song during communion.
This is what happens when human logic and reason govern your theology instead of scripture. You end up with the most depressing theology on the planet.
If Christ died for the whole world, then the whole world would be saved.
However, the whole world will not be saved, and thus, Christ did not die for the whole world.
Then for whom did Christ die?
All who have truly believed in Him.
John 3:16, 36.
First All Saints service today. Had a moment that brought tears. Our pastor read the names of those saints from our parish that passed this year, & as he got to one name, a woman crossed the aisle to hug & stand with the widow of the individual. What a wonderful moment.
Seeing the pastor place his hands on my children’s heads today & not only bless them, but tell them by name that their sins are forgiven meant more to me than I can put into words.
Our pastor gave us a copy of the Small Catechism, so we’ve started going through the section on baptism with the kids in preparation for their upcoming baptism. It is such a joy to walk them through this & see the excitement they have for their baptism.