Proship: "No matter how much I might hate the content you produce, as long as it's fictional, I will never harass you or tell you to die."
That's it.
That's literally it.
It's really not hard to understand unless you WANT to misunderstand it.
Me: I don't ship these two. I like them as friends, maybe as found family, that's cute and-
Some of y'all: This character in their 20s is the PARENT of this teenager, ADOPTIVE FAMILY YES YES IF YOU SHIP THEM IT'S LITERAL INCEST EW NASTY
Me: You know what, they fuck like rabbits.
"Porn in fanfiction should be more like sex ed."
No. Entertainment doesn't need to educate you. Action movies don't teach you how to treat bullet wounds. Cars don't explode all the time in real life. People don't just walk off major injuries irl. Talking animals don't exist.
"If you see the smaller/taller/less muscular/more muscular one as the top/bottom, then that means you as a person-"
My fav. Gets fucked. Bc I love them and I want to see them get fucked. That's it. That's all there is to it.
Since people on this website like to use their academic degrees and/or the fact they're studying to pretend they hold any kind of authority over others:
I have a BA in literature and language (German + English). Fanfic is real writing. Fanart is real art. You're valid + worthy.
Ofc I've seen videos of kids burning Amp.hibia art today and I think it's very concerning how these US kids and teens see nothing wrong with burning "nasty" art while their parents try to ban and burn "nasty" books.
The solution to "it's unfair that queer people's horny art is held to arbitrary purity standards while cis straight guys can openly like whatever horny art they like" isn't to start shaming cis straight men, it's to stop harassing people for their horny art
Meanwhile Anne Rice: "I think one of the worst turns feminism took was its puritanical turn, where it tried to tell women what was politically correct sexually."
I despise 10% of the ships I see in my fandons and I don't care about 85% more.
So I'm not into 95% of the ships in my fandoms.
And yet, I SOMEHOW manage to scroll on and mind my own business instead of making an identity out of how much I'm not into 95% of the ships existing.
Antis move to whatever they think will be the next big thing before everyone else to "set up the rules". Vld wasn't even done and they were already all over She-Ra. Promare still isn't available everywhere, but antis were there as soon as they saw it would be big.
Sometimes I remember the random person going "please don't lewd Aizawa, it's inappropriate now that he's a parent", and then I always have the urge to lie down for a while
I wish some of you would just say "I wanna make a zine with all my friends because we all share the same headcanons" instead of pretending it's a normal app process and it's just a coincidence that only your mutuals are involved in the end
I know I've said it before, but "don't genderswap/genderbend, just make them trans" doesn't work. Portraying the same character as
a cis man
a trans man
a cis woman
a trans woman
will give you 4 different character background experiences, and all of them are worth exploring.
I really want to see some of you try to explain to older queers why you're harassing them for not using a flag that was created in ms paint by your mutual five minutes ago
the term "proship" was created to make sure people would understand that it's not about real life, but about fictional lines on paper.
The proship stance is "don't like, don't read" and has nothing to do with your ships or kinks and only with how you treat real, living humans.
The whole proship bullshit was supposed to be a simple "no matter how much I might hate your content, I will never harass you and tell you to kys, it doesn't matter how you treat lines and pixels, but how you treat REAL PEOPLE", and I can't believe how many people fucked that up.
While we're at it:
"Anti(ship)" was coined on Tumblr, when it was common courtesy to tag your ship hate as "anti [insert ship here]", so that people who liked the ship wouldn't have to see hate in the tag.
Imagine harassing and doxxing a person for shipping crimes and still thinking you're the good one bc of semantics. "They put themself in the hospital (bc of my harassment), *I* didn't, *I'm* not to blame."
@Ashuribbon
Take it from someone who got duped by them-
They usually make themselves, their accounts/brand, appear child-friendly in most cases. They attempt to look "nostalgic and carefree" so that they can appear familiar to a kid; ranging from anime to early tumblr aes shit. (1/??)
"I'm anti-censorship", no, you just want to lewd your loli waifu while calling trans, gay and non-white people existing in media "sjw pc woke bullshit" and you'll gladly harass creators in the hope they'll delete (= censor) their diversity in characters for you.
When anti(shippers) started harassing people, the term "anti anti" was created. You'll still find a lot of Tumblr blogs with "anti anti" in their name.
When anti(shippers) rebranded to "we're just anti pedoincestabuse, how can you be anti us unless you're a pedoincestabuser?",
Unpopular opinion, but I think calling out actual predators that harm children in the same breath as people who draw fucked-up shit you don't like does more harm than good. The two things aren't the same, one is "call the authorities" and one is "ew, block"
The way antis dropped everything to climb all over sk8 and genshin should have been obvious from the get-go, and the way they hate on actual queer characters for not being the soft uwu boys they want is telling.
Nobody listened when people in the Frozen fandom got sent threats for liking Hans. When Reylos got attacked, it was funny to y'all. Sheithers should just stop shipping "pedoincest". Y'all excused their behaviour and now you have this giant pile of shit clogging your own sewers.
@Youmacon
Idk if I'd wanna invite someone who is so unprofessional that he weeds out his competition in the animation industry by taking part in the harassment of a disabled rape victim over cartoon porn, but you do you.
"If you make anime characters kiss, I will spam you with gore because you're a p3do and should d*e" and "I am SO anti-harassment that I spam real kids with loli porn and call them -ist slurs to protect my waifus" is all the same, it's two sides of a coin.
A month before kh3 or FE3h came out, suddenly every big anti has been a fan since their childhood (doubtful, or they would understand the story or mechanics).
They stay until they're bored bc they couldn't force the creators to do what they want or the fandom dies bc of them.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: We need to bring back messy topics in our fanworks. I'm talking about overcoming internalized homophobia and transphobia, unlearning -isms, gender confusion where the result is being gnc instead of trans.
@ArtistFailure
@heartspocky
People don't know anymore that you can share spaces and be friends with others that aren't in your 100 % exact age range without one of you getting shoved into the parental role uwu
I've muted the thread before I went to bed. If you're seeing this: @/lgbtheartszine is an sfw ship-friendly charity z!ne about queer headcanons in a fandom full of antis. They're currently getting threats and there's lies about the mods spread. Maybe check them out of you want to
Okay, but tbh? I'm not cool with proshippers swarming anti tweets that are nothing more than "this person is proship, don't rt from them" bc if WE warn others not to rt from antis, THEY are allowed to do it, too
Aizawa pretends he doesn't notice when Shigaraki steals the fries from his plate bc he's relieved whenever Shigaraki is actually eating something that isn't instant noodles
Same thing with mpreg versus transpreg.
It's not the same thing. It's not interchangeable. Both are valid for different reasons and BOTH can trigger people. Let's stop taking own own experiences and forcing them on others as a gotcha for FIVE MINUTES please.
Shigaraki, kidnapping Shinsou: "So YOU are Eraser's little favourite."
Shinsou: "Oh shit, you're that villain Aizawa-sensei talks about."
Shigaraki: "...he talks about me? 😳😳😳"
"I'm anti-censorship", no, you just want to fling slurs and racist bullshit at people under the guise of "edgy dark humour" and scream about your "right of free speech" when you face repercussions.
Hope someone records themselves asking the following questions and Kyle's answers: "Why did you sexually harass 9 people by sending them Invader Zim porn art unprompted? You say the Invader Zim porn traumatized you, why did you want 9 other people to possibly be traumatized, too"
If you’ve been on our social media this past week, you probably have heard a bit about this. We would like to discuss claims targeted at a new guest to our lineup, Kyle Carrozza.
Now due to ongoing hostility in the comments section, we have deemed it necessary to lock the
"Aizawa is trans and deserves to get his pussy stuffed," I say into the mic.
The crowd boos. I begin to walk off in shame, when a voice speaks and commands silence from the room.
"They're right," they say. I look for the owner of the voice. There in the 3rd row stands: Aizawa.
@findyourwayart
@ch0c00n
People are treating queer media as a stand-in for "happy romantic comedies with queer couples", which is why we get what feels like 500 call-out threads for "problematic media that shouldn't be called queer rep" a day.
millenial fandomers and their need to expose minors to nsfw needs to be studied extensively + warrants having them put on a watchlist. Idc if moot got cooked for saying this, i think rting nsfw onto an acc not explicitly tagged as nsfw (esp a professional one??) is fucking weird
Heads up: Assholes are posting the vid of his death on twitter and using bots to spam replies and boost the engagement/visibilty.
PLEASE turn off auto play!
// gore mention
Y'all might want to report @/4LL3YD3M0N for harassment and gore spamming in @/SuzumiyaJavi's mentions.
DON'T go to their media tab, just report their account
"I'm anti-censorship", no, you literally want to censor how people express themselves ("pronouns/gender/race in bio, your argument is invalid") because you have no personality beyond being "edgy" and hating "sjws".
@Nightmare_Keks
@Nana_Hayashi
Natürlich gleich den Pfarrer anzeigen wollen und sich damit brüsten, wie viele man schon angezeigt hat. Da kann einer stolz auf sich sein. 😇
Klasse Aktion, super Pfarrer!
(just for the record, the first time I saw something like this was 2013-14 in BBC Sherlock fandom when someone burned a doujinshi with the "wrong" person topping. The first time I spoke out about this was in 2016-17 about Sheith art. I was called a pedophile over that.)
Sonia, teaching Leon to drive: Okay, you're driving and suddenly Raihan and Hop walk into the road. Quick, what do you hit?
Leon: Oh no, I'm so sorry, but I'd hit Raihan, I could never hurt Hop.
Sonia:
Sonia: THE BRAKES, LEON.
Sonia: YOU HIT THE BRAKES.
"retroactively make her seem less flippant", Aerith didn't need to be 'fixed', Aerith didn't need to be taught by a man to be 'strong and independent', Aerith didn't need to be taught by a man to wear pink and sell flowers.
Nojima was the one who decided to have Zack fall into the church in CC like Cloud did in FFVII. He wanted to link as many of OG Aerith's defining traits to Zack as possible, and made her "one date" line a repeat of Zack's to retroactively make her seem less flippant. (CCU, 2007)
@coochnigs
I had read this before, but from my understanding, this isn't what *he* said, but what the author of the article thinks. =/ I think he "only" said at some point that queer relationships represent people in his life and that they should be seen as as normal as they are.
@RogoSprout
tbh a lot of antis are baby queers themselves, but they're that kind of baby queers that's radicalized by radfems and terfs into thinking any kind queer content that's more than holding hands needs to be destroyed
In that Discord screenshot that's going around, you guys state you've been *friends* with the artist in question for ages.
What's it like throwing a *friend* under the bus for a bunch of assholes that won't buy your zine anyway? Is it worth it? I feel so sorry for that artist.
I'm so tired of the "You can't ship Cloud and Aerith bc she waits for Zack/Zack will come back in7r2" takes.
How long is she supposed to wait before she's allowed to move on? Five years aren't enough - does she have to wait ten? Twenty? When does she stop "belonging" to him?
@overhaulkin
Tbh I think a lot of them know. There's too much victim blaming and "lmao cringe traumadumping me" for them to not know.
They just don't care.
Erasermight in which they're a) pining for each other and b) meeting up two times a week in a shady adult club without recognizing each other bc Aizawa is the pretty ass stuck in a wall and Toshi is the giant dick rearranging his guts
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Did you know you don't need to reply to every tweet about Midnight's death that she was "possibly raped by all these villains bc she's the r-rated hero"? Did you know that? Did you know you can just not do that? Did you know you can keep it to yourselves?
I hate this change. OG Aerith and her key art with the Highwind symbolizing her dream of seeing the world (something she never achieves) meant everything to me from a storytelling perspective. 🤷
Nomura says that the sky symbolizes sorrow to Aerith. Zack, a man she held very dear, and Ifalna, her mother, were taken into the sky. Her hatred for the sky is also associated with Shinra covering the slums and Jenova bringing disaster to the Ancients from the sky. (RU, 2020)
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Yeah, like you called everyone who got upset someone was doxxed and harassed over Invader Zim porn drawing pedophiles, super fucking disgusting and demoralizing. ❤
Nah, sorry, if the sex scene is between two characters and suddenly there's the taller man, the older man, the younger man, the soldier, the smaller man, the brunet and the man with emerald orbs, then I wonder when this turned into an orgy.
“why does fanfic writers hate using the characters name 🤪” that’s called using figures of speech to avoid heavy repetitive narrative but you wouldn’t know that bc you have the reading level i had when i was in kindergarten
So you're trying to "defend" the queer community by saying that queer people enjoying "problematic" fiction are groomers? So you're saying only the "good wholesome" queers aren't groomers?
...and you think you're one of the "good ones", right? 🤡
We're concerned about one of the contributors to the zine, as they openly enjoy incestuous content. As this zine is focused around the LGBTQ+ community, which has been historically + falsely accused of being exploitative/dangerous to children (ex: "groomer" allegations)-
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Still craving ShigaMight with Shigaraki falling for lanky, gentle Toshinori who buys him games and holds him close at night, but it's just All Might spying on the LOV
Domestic Erasershig where Shigaraki initially broke into Aizawa's flat to kill him, but the cat climbed onto his lap and fell asleep and now Shigaraki is stuck forever.