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@ShivBPant @ciguleva @idariusdan Yessir.

@Dakshdesigns @somanna_bu always

@MandroDesign @framer Framer

@Dakshdesigns no bro, the best talent joins co horts and enjoys the culture.

@JashValia @10kdesigners References: I've literally pinpointed that it claims to be a mentorship education and explicitly a "school"

@JashValia @10kdesigners Good for you.

@JashValia @10kdesigners beginner concepts me quality? sigh.

@JashValia @10kdesigners i know dozens of beginner designers who took 10k and felt they didn’t learn anything substantial—many even had harsh feedback about it. but sure, let’s ignore that and keep calling it ‘educational’ just because some people landed jobs through referrals.

@JashValia @10kdesigners I literally just pointed out the very sentences and in the screenshot that it claims to be a school but yeah whatever rows your boat.

getting started ≠ quality education. the entire conversation has been about how 10k is more of a referral & networking chamber rather than an actual design education program. every defense so far has been about culture, community & job placements—not what they actually teach. that says enough.

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@JashValia @10kdesigners btw literally it says the internet design school but okay

if you give attention you'll find the sentences below: •“Learn design, build projects, and join a thriving community.” •“A program to help you get started in UI/UX design.” •“Cohort-based learning with live mentorship.” These statements clearly indicate that they position themselves as an educational program rather than just a networking platform. While they emphasize mentorship and community, they also claim to teach design skills and help individuals get started in UI/UX. So, if someone argues that 10k Designers isn’t meant to be a design education program, that contradicts their own marketing.

@JashValia @10kdesigners if 10k just helps people ‘get better,’ its marketing shouldn’t claim to create great designers. if networking is the main value, just say that instead of selling it as a design education.

@JashValia @10kdesigners refer to their very own website.

if the marketing simply said ‘we help you get better,’ there wouldn’t be this discussion. but the website pushes the ‘great designers’ narrative, creating misleading expectations. also, fresh grads are a separate discussion—10k is pitched as an alternative to traditional education, not just an add-on. so if it’s mainly networking and referrals, just call it that instead of selling it as a design education program.

exactly my point—my question didn’t come out of nowhere or to mock. it came from how 10k markets itself. if it takes years to become great, why does 10k claim to ‘build great designers’? if the reality is that it just gives a head start and networking, then the marketing should reflect that instead of setting unrealistic expectations. my issue isn’t that people don’t become great in 3 months—it’s that 10k sells the idea that they do by teaching, which they really just don't.

that’s exactly the point if the value for beginners is just learning the basics and for experienced folks it’s just networking, then calling it a ‘serious design education program’ is misleading. learning the basics is not the same as structured design education, and networking is not a curriculum. if 10k is mainly helping people get their first internship or connect with industry folks, that’s great, but let’s not oversell it as something deeper than what it is.

so the short answer is ‘yes, it teaches serious design skills,’ but the real answer is ‘only what can be taught in 3 months’—which means surface-level concepts at best and honestly as far as i have experienced and seen it through my peers. I'd disagree but I'll ignore that part for you as, your opinion is different and i respect it. design is a deep field that takes years of practice, iteration, and critique to truly master. 3 months is enough to scratch the surface, maybe even get someone started, but let’s not pretend that’s equivalent to serious design education. this entire discussion has proved that 10k is more of a networking shortcut than a structured, in-depth design program. the ‘success’ people talk about is mostly driven by referrals and the community effect, not by the curriculum itself. if the course was actually rigorous in teaching design, there would be more discussions about its methodology, critique, and pedagogy—not just placement pipelines and connections.