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@wendelltalks ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฐ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ข๐ต๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ธ ๐ธ๐ณ๐ช๐ต๐ต๐ฆ๐ฏ?โฃ โฃ 41 AD. Matthew first wrote his gospel in Hebrew and then later in Greek.โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ฉ๐ณ๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ช๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ข๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช๐ต๐บ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ 381 ๐๐, ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ค๐ต๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ง๐ช๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ฅ.โฃ โฃโฃ Not Christians; but trinitarians, who arenโt Christians believe and teach the Trinity and it doesnโt much matter when. Trinitarians are CINOs (Christians in Name Only), counterfeit Christians that adhere to a ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ gospel and ๐ง๐จ๐ญ the gospel of the kingdom of God in which Jesus died and was raised up by God, but not given a wife and a mandate to be raise a family of his own. No, your gospel about a triune God is a distorted one and about a ๐๐ข๐๐๐๐ซ๐๐ง๐ญ Jesus. (2 Cor. 11:4; Gal. 1:6-7)โฃ โฃ Instead, Jesus sacrificed his life and presented the merit he had to God, who accepted it in full satisfaction of the debt His justice required against mankind, so God, in turn, imputed Jesusโ righteousness to those exercising faith in Jesusโ ransom and put us on the way to salvation according to our hope,โฃโฃ โฃ However, in the trinitarianโs gospel, which is ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ gospel, Jesus is immortal, and because he is God, he did not really die, and so he could never have paid off Adamโs debt to God since Jesus is God, even though โwithout the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.โ (Heb. 9:22)โฃ โฃ So if Jesus did not die, then God did not resurrect a dead Jesus back to life, and we are to be pitied for we have no assurance whatsoever that we will ever be saved. (1 Cor.. 15:19) Trinitarians are ๐ง๐จ๐ญ Christians.โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ด ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ช๐ด๐ต๐ช๐ฏ๐ค๐ต ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด: ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ, ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฐ๐ฏ (๐๐ฆ๐ด๐ถ๐ด ๐๐ฉ๐ณ๐ช๐ด๐ต), ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ ๐๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ช๐ต. ๐๐ข๐ค๐ฉ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ง๐ถ๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ, ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ญ๐บ ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ, ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฆ.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ Nowhere can the phrases โGod the Sonโ or โGod the Holy Spiritโ be found in the Bible. This is trinitarian dogma, which isnโt Christian dogma. It isnโt possible to defend trinitarian dogma using the Bible, because God is not triune; he is one. (Deut. 6:4)โฃ โฃ It is interesting that Jesus didnโt teach such dogma, and that the Bible doesnโt mention such dogma, but that for the very first time after the death of all of the apostles โGod the Sonโ and โGod the Holy Spiritโ was revealed to trinitarians during the Council of Constantinople in 381 AD. You say โeach person is fully God,โ which no doubt makes perfect sense to trinitarians, but makes no sense at all to non-trinitarians.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ I know you donโt care how foolish this trinitarian dogma sounds to non-trinitarians like myself, but as a Christian, I have to view you trinitarians as being out there, for as a programmer, I can tell you that the following is a truth statement:โฃโฃ โฃโฃ 1 + 1 + 1 โ 3โฃโฃ โฃโฃ The following is, well, you know. ๐ โฃโฃ 1 + 1 + 1 = 1โฃโฃ โฃโฃ ๐๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ช๐ด ๐ง๐ข๐ช๐ณ๐ญ๐บ ๐ฃ๐ข๐ด๐ช๐ค ๐ด๐ต๐ถ๐ง๐ง ๐ต๐ข๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ๐ต ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฆ๐ธ ๐๐ฆ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ This is false. Trinitarian dogma is only taught in trinitarian churches, and it is my belief that everyone that subscribes to it, rather than to the gospel of the kingdom of God is going to perish for not knowing God and for not obeying the gospel. (2 Thess. 1:7-10) I am ๐ง๐จ๐ญ joking.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ, ๐๐ฐ๐ฏ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ญ๐บ ๐๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ช๐ต ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ช๐ฏ๐จ๐ถ๐ญ๐ข๐ณ๐ญ๐บ. ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ๐บ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ด๐ด๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ.โฃ โฃ According to your creed, they โone essence,โ right? The Bible describes God as the Father, not as โone essence,โ Lee, and I donโt subscribe to your creed.โฃ โฃ At John 20:17, Jesus said to Mary Magdalene, โI have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, โI am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.โโ โฃ โฃ God isnโt described in the Bible as being โone essence.โ This word โessenceโ is scripturally meaningless to non-trinitarians.โฃ โฃ At John 17:21, Jesus prays to his Father that his disciples โmay be in us,โ and by โusโ he refers to himself (Jesus) and to God. You might well view them as โone essence,โ but I count God and Jesus as ๐ญ๐ฐ๐จ beings, not ๐จ๐ง๐ being. โฃ If you are able to do so, please make it make sense. ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ
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๐๐ง ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐๐ฆ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ธ, ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ '๐๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช๐ต๐บ' ๐ช๐ด ๐ข๐ฃ๐ด๐ฐ๐ญ๐ถ๐ต๐ฆ๐ญ๐บ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ.โฃ โฃ Is it? The trinity doctrine describes God as three divine Persons (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) with each Person said to be eternal, almighty, and none greater or less than the other Person, and with each Person singularly and together being one God.โฃ โฃ Matthew 28:19 is often cited to prove the trinity doctrine is found in the Bible, where Jesus commands his disciples to teach and baptize the people of all nations in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,โ although.nothing is said in this verse about each of these being Persons or these being one God.โฃ โฃ This is what trinitarians believe about God, but what did the Jews believe about God?โฃ โฃ Called โ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ก๐๐ฆ๐,,โ Deut. 6:4, ASV, states the following about God: โListen, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.โโฃ โฃ Attesting to Israelโs worship of the one God Jehovah/YHWH, one rabbi stated: โThe Shema excludes the trinity of the Christian creed as a violation of the Unity of God.โโฃ โฃ When people are baptized โin the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,โ they accept the authority of the Father, the high priestly role of Jesus Christ and recognize the function of Godโs holy spirit.โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ
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๐๐ช๐ฅ๐ฏโ๐ต ๐๐ข๐ถ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ค๐ญ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต ๐ข ๐ธ๐ข๐บ ๐ข๐ด ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ข๐ด๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ง ๐ข ๐ง๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ข๐ค๐ณ๐ช๐ง๐ช๐ค๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ช๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ด? ๐โ๐ฎ ๐ต๐ณ๐บ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฐ [๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ณ] ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ค๐ข๐ฏโ๐ต.โฃโฃ โฃ ๐ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ง 1 ๐๐ฐ๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ข๐ฏ. 10. 25โฃ โฃโฃ Thanks, Katie, for remembering the scripture to which you were referring and letting us know what you had in mind, letting ๐ฆ๐ know what you had in mind. ๐โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ช๐ฅ๐ฏโ๐ต ๐๐ข๐ถ๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ค๐ญ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต ๐ข ๐ธ๐ข๐บ ๐ข๐ด ๐ธ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ญ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ข๐ด๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ช๐ง ๐ข ๐ง๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ด๐ข๐ค๐ณ๐ช๐ง๐ช๐ค๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ช๐ฅ๐ฐ๐ญ๐ด? ๐โ๐ฎ ๐ต๐ณ๐บ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต ๐ค๐ข๐ฏโ๐ต.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ Perhaps, Katie, the passage you have in mind is 1 Cor. 8:4-13, especially verses 10 and 11.โฃโฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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[1/2] ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ช๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ด๐ถ๐ณ๐ท๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด ๐ข๐ต๐ต๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ณ๐ฐ๐ธ๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ 7 ๐ค๐ฉ๐ถ๐ณ๐ค๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ด.โฆ [๐]๐ฐ๐ต ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ด๐ถ๐ณ๐ท๐ช๐ท๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ช๐ท๐ช๐ญ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ช๐จ๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐๐ฉ๐ณ๐ช๐ด๐ต.โฆ ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฌ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ค๐ฆ๐ณ๐ต๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ญ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ต๐ฉโฆ.โฃ โฃ I read your tweet and many of the tweets posted to this thread, Deborah, so I have decided to post a full response to your tweet, even though it doesn't escape me that there are people like @EllaFlash, who are intolerant of people like me that share opinions here on TwiX with which she disagrees due to her religious bias, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐๐ก ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ก๐๐ซ ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ, but IMO is reprehensible conduct for anyone that comes to TwiX claiming to be a Christian.โฃ โฃ Dan. 9:24-27 mentions the 70 weeks (heptads), which began in 455 BC and Daniel prophesies the coming of the Messiah at the beginning of the 70th week, so based on the formula โa day for a yearโ (Num. 14:34 and Ezek. 4:6) we count 69 weeks/years x 7, or 483 years from 455 BC, and arrive at the beginning of the 70th week, the year in which the Messiah was destined to appear: 29 AD.โฃ โฃ True to Daniel's prophecy, it was in 29 AD that John the Baptist baptizes Jesus of Nazareth in the Jordan River, where the holy spirit anoints him as God's Messiah, the Christ, and God makes the following announcement at Matt. 3:13-17: โThis is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.โโฃ โฃ In 29 AD, during Tiberius Caesar's 15th year, Jesus was 30 years old. (Luke 3:1-2, 23) We know that Tiberius became emperor on Sept. 15, 14 AD, Julian; his 15th year ran from the fall of 28 AD to 29 AD. The text of Dan. 9:24-27 about โthe 70 weeksโ is a Messianic prophecy:โฃ โฃ ๐๐๐ง. ๐:๐๐:โฃ โ๐๐๐ฏ๐๐ง๐ญ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐โฃ โ๐
๐จ๐ซ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ ๐ก๐จ๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ,โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ฌ๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ง๐ฌ๐ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง,โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐ ๐๐ง ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ฌ,โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐ ๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ง๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ช๐ฎ๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ,โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐๐ฏ๐๐ซ๐ฅ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐๐จ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ง๐๐ฌ๐ฌ,โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ฉ ๐ฏ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐จ๐ฉ๐ก๐๐๐ฒ,โฃ โ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ง๐จ๐ข๐ง๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ฌ๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ฅ๐ฒ.โโฃ โฃ Godโs favor toward Jerusalem, the โholy city,โ and the house of Israel was determined by God to end after the 70 weeks of years, during which not only the transgressions against the Law by the Jews, but reconciliation for repentant sinners would obtain, so that everlasting righteousness would be established and the Holy of Holies in Godโs spiritual temple would be anointed.โฃ โฃ ๐๐๐ง. ๐:๐๐:โฃ โ๐๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ๐๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ง๐,โฃ โ๐๐ก๐๐ญ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐จ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ญ๐ก ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐โฃ โ๐๐จ ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ข๐ฅ๐ ๐๐๐ซ๐ฎ๐ฌ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฆโฃ โ๐๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐๐ก ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐๐,โฃ โ๐๐ก๐๐ซ๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐ฌ๐๐ฏ๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ญ๐ฐ๐จ ๐ฐ๐๐๐ค๐ฌ;โฃ โ๐๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ข๐ฅ๐ญ ๐๐ ๐๐ข๐ง, ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ฅ๐ฅ,โฃ โ๐๐ฏ๐๐ง ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐๐ฅ๐๐ฌ๐จ๐ฆ๐ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฆ๐๐ฌ.โโฃ โฃ The Jews were in expectation of the appearance of Messiah after โseven weeks and sixty-two weeks,โ that is to say, after 7 + 62 = 69 weeks of years, from the year of the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem, which command was given to the Jews by Nehemiah and authorized by King Artaxerxes during his 20th regnal year (Neh. 2:1-18). That year is 455 BC.โฃ โฃ By making the same calculations that the Jews made, Messiahโs appearance was expected after 69 weeks of years after Nehemiah had given the word, or 69 x 7 = 483 years after 455 BC, which brings us to 29 AD.โฃ โฃ [contโd]
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[2/2] ๐๐๐ง. ๐:๐๐:โฃ โ๐๐ง๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ข๐ฑ๐ญ๐ฒ-๐ญ๐ฐ๐จ ๐ฐ๐๐๐ค๐ฌโฃ โ๐๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐ข๐๐ก ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐๐, ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ฆ๐ฌ๐๐ฅ๐;โฃ โ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฉ๐๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐จ๐ฆ๐โฃ โ๐๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐จ๐ฒ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ญ๐ฒ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐๐ง๐๐ญ๐ฎ๐๐ซ๐ฒ.โฃ โ๐๐ก๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐จ๐จ๐,โฃ โ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ฌ๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐.โโฃ โฃ Daniel's prophecy says that โafter the sixty-two weeks,โ which is Hebrew shorthand for the โseven weeks and sixty-two weeks,โ the โMessiah shall be cut off,โ which means that the Messiah would die after 69 weeks, and Dan. 9:27 prophecies when it is the Messiah would be โcut off.โ โฃ ๐๐๐ง. ๐:๐๐:โฃ โ๐๐ก๐๐ง ๐ก๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ง๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฆ ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฏ๐๐ง๐๐ง๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐๐๐ค;โฃ โ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐ข๐๐๐ฅ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐๐๐คโฃ โ๐๐ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ง ๐๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฌ๐๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ข๐๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐๐๐๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐ .โฃ โ๐๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฐ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐จ๐ ๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง๐ฌ ๐ฌ๐ก๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ฌ๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐,โฃ โ๐๐ฏ๐๐ง ๐ฎ๐ง๐ญ๐ข๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง, ๐ฐ๐ก๐ข๐๐ก ๐ข๐ฌ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐๐,โฃ โ๐๐ฌ ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐๐ ๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐๐ฌ๐จ๐ฅ๐๐ญ๐.โโฃ โฃ So it was in the middle of the 70th week that the Messiah was destined to bring to an end the animal sacrifices and offerings that had been required under the Law of Moses by giving his life as a ransom to atone not only for the sins of Godโs people, but for the sins of mankind. The middle of the 70th week would be 3ยฝ years ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ 29 AD, which means Jesus would give his life as a ransom in 33 AD when he was 33ยฝ years old. (Matt. 20:28)โฃ โฃ Jesus died on Nisan 14, AM 3793, April 3, 33 AD, Julian, and was born 33ยฝ years earlier on or about Tishri 3, AM 3758, which is on or about October 1, 2 BC, Julian. As Dan. 9:27 foretold, Godโs favor toward the Jews continued in confirmation of the Abrahamic Covenant (Gen. 22:18) for the remaining 3ยฝ years until the 70th week ended in 36 AD, in which year the Gentiles were given their first opportunity to join the Jewish Christians, becoming โone flockโ (Luke 12:32) to whom the kingdom would be given, they being reconciled to God in Jesus' name and becoming Christians.โฃ โฃ This has been a lengthy comment and I hope it will help you to appreciate the accuracy of Bible prophecies like the one at Dan. 9:24-27, but none of this information I provide here will be of any benefit to those having no interest in the Bible or the gospel. BTW Jesus foretold at Matt. 24:21 a "great tribulation" that is destined to occur before the end, when the sheep will be separated from the goats (Matt. 25:41-46), which will no doubt affect everyone on earth, but nowhere in the Bible is there mention of a pre-trib rature or a post-trib rapture.โฃ โฃ After the end, the millennial reign of Christ begins woth the born again elect ruling with him in the new heavens over the โgreat multitudeโ that emerges from the tribulation along with the rest of the resurrected dead here on new earth when the regeneration will occur. (Matt. 19:28; Rev. 7:9, 14; 20:5)โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ฆ๐ญ๐ญ, ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ต ๐ฎ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ญ๐ข๐ณ๐ช๐ง๐บ, ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ด๐ข๐ช๐ฅโฆ.โฃ โฃ Iโm satisfied that what I wrote in my tweet was what I had intended to say, Johnny. My tweets are always available for review at any time you choose to search for and read them.โฃ I have no interest in repeating myself. โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ช๐ณ๐ด๐ต, ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ฌ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐๐ณ๐ช๐จ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ ๐ด๐ช๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฅ, ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐บ ๐ฃ๐ข๐ฑ๐ต๐ช๐ด๐ฎ?โฃ โฃ Yes; the original sin was idolatry. Baptism is a requirement for salvation. ๐๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ข๐ง๐๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ง:โฃ Gen.3:22 says that Adam had become his own judge in making moral decisions as to what things God has determined to be good and evil, and by placing his own independent judgment over God's and becoming a law to himself, and idolatrously making his own decisions as to what was good or bad for him, Adam committed the original sin due to his refusal to walk with the true God and his attacking God's sovereign right to set the standards for created beings, and to be modest in recognition of one's status as a human being. โThe Father has life in himself โฆ [and] he [had] granted the Son also to have life in himselfโ (John 5:26), but man doesn't have life in himself, for man's life comes from God.โฃ โฃ The claim to moral independence in setting one's own standards independent of God is not just immodest; it is idolatry. Although he has no life in himself, Adam's refusal to submit to divine authority and his asserting himself as a judge in being like god in knowing what things are good and evil (Gen. 3:22), he converted his created status to that of a god. (Jer. 10:23; Mic. 6:8)โฃ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ:โฃ Before becoming a disciple, we were estranged from God and had a bad conscience toward God, but now, having accepted the good news of salvation, we desire to have a good conscience toward him, and to this end we repented of our sins, turned to God by declaring our dedication to God, and we prayed to God and made a request for a good conscience by presenting ourselves to him in full dedication, who loved us despite the fact that we were sinners, by sending his son to become a sacrifice for us. (Rom. 5:8)โฃ โFor the time that has passed by is sufficient for you to have worked out the will of the nations.โ (1 Pet. 3:21โ4:6)โฃ โฃ By dedication we make request to God for a good conscience and, after our dedication, and our request is consummated by water baptism. Thus we symbolize this dedication by water baptism, and we get the requested good conscience. This whole baptism arrangement of God cuts us off, delivers us, from this sinful, conscienceless, doomed world of mankind. Baptism, therefore, is a requirement that puts us on the way to salvation according to our hope,โฃ โฃโฃ Our request to God for a good conscience, which is thereby consummated by water baptism (1 Pet. 3:20-21) is the initial step of obedience to God that we took in recognition of โthe name of the Father,โ in recognition of his authority as the Most High and the source of all life. (Psa. 36:8, GNB; 83:18, ESV)โฃโฃ โฃโฃ Jesus gave his life as a ransom sacrifice for forgiveness of our sins and he now serves in his highly exalted role as High Priest on behalf of mankind. (Php. 2:9-11; Heb. 5:9-10)โฃโฃ โฃโฃ When we pray to God in Jesus' name, we should not think of Jesus as someone that is taking messages for God, but he sits in the office bestowed upon him by God that is above every other name, so that when we pray, we are thereby making appeal to Jesus' authority as our high priest that in โthe name of the Sonโ he would make the things we say acceptable to God.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ Lastly, we are baptized in โthe name of the holy spirit,โ which is โthe spirit of truthโ (John 14:16-17) that dwells in us. God's spirit is embodied in his word of truth, the Bible, through which the truth has been revealed to us, and it is by its authority that we are enabled to understand the truth and are empowered to make disciples. (1 Cor. 2:10)โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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[2/2] ๐๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ด๐ข๐ช๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ถ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฅ ๐ข๐ฏ๐บ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ด, ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฎ ๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ญ.โฃ โฃ No? Did you not write:โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ'๐ด ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ญ๐ช๐ฐ๐ถ๐ด ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ด, ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ช๐ณ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ซ๐ถ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ๐ด ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐๐ช๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ง๐ฆ๐ค๐ต ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฏ๐จ๐ฆ๐ญ๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ ๐ฐ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ฑ๐ข๐ณ๐ต๐ช๐ค๐ถ๐ญ๐ข๐ณ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ'๐ด ๐ค๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ: ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฅ.โฃ โฃ ?โฃ โฃ ๐๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐จ๐ฐ๐ต๐ต๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ด๐ช๐ด 3:15?โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฆ๐ฏ 3:15ย ๐๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ ๐ธ๐ช๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฑ๐ถ๐ต ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ช๐ต๐บ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐บ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฅ; ๐ช๐ต ๐ด๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ถ๐ช๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐บ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ด๐ฉ๐ข๐ญ๐ต ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ถ๐ช๐ด๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ญ.ย โฃ โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ช๐ต๐บ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฐ?โฃ โฃ Enmity existed between Satan's seed and the woman's seed, whose seed would bruise the head of the serpent after the serpent's seed had bruised the the heel of the woman's seed.โฃ โฃ ๐๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฏ๐ต?โฃ โฃ I meant what I wrote. I trust that you read and understood what it was I wrote.โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ถ๐ต, ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ถ๐ฃ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ฏ๐ต๐ช๐ท๐ฆ #๐๐ถ๐ค๐ช๐ง๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ฅ "๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฏ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ณ", & "๐ฅ๐ข๐บ ๐ด๐ต๐ข๐ณ" ๐ฉ๐ข๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ #๐ญ๐ถ๐ค๐ช๐ง๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ด๐ช๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ ๐ข๐ต ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ข๐ด๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฏ๐จ๐ญ๐ฐ-๐๐ข๐น๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ช๐ฐ๐ฅ.โฃ โฃ As I stated, Johnny, the word โLuciferโ used in the Latin Vulgate at Isa. 12:14 refers to the king of Babylon, the dynasty of kings. I know you want to make a point, so what is it?โฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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๐๐ฐ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ ๐๐ข๐ญ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ข๐ฏ๐ด 3:27, ๐ธ๐ช๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ช๐ฐ๐ณ๐ด.โฃ โฃ Iโd read Gal. 3:27, which is why I cited it in my tweet as part of my response to your question. If you have a question about this Bible verse, what is it? โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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[1/2] ๐ ๐ฅ๐ฐ ๐ธ๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฏ๐จ๐ญ๐ช๐ด๐ฉ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐๐ฑ๐ข๐ฏ๐ช๐ด๐ฉ ๐ต๐ณ๐ข๐ฏ๐ด๐ญ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด ๐ถ๐ด๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ช๐จ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฅ๐ด ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ ๐ฏ๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ข๐ฏ, ๐ฃ๐ถ๐ต, ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ, ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐๐ข๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ด ๐ฅ๐ช๐ฅ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ถ๐ฑ.โฃ โฃ What does the Greek Septuagint or do any of the Bible translations you mention in your post have to do with the Latin Vulgate's "Lucifer"? It's "morning star," "shining one," "day star," and to whom exactly does Isa. 14:12 refer? I didn't see an answer to this question. Actually, Jim, you don't seem to have an accurate understanding of what the Scriptures teach.โฃ โฃ ๐๐ด ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐บ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ณ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐๐ข๐ต๐ข๐ฏ ๐ช๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ข๐ถ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ด๐ช๐ฏโฆ.โฃ โฃ Again, I ask: What "perfect plan" did God present to the angels through mankind? The rebellion in Eden that was initiated by a wicked angel (Satan) is what led to man's fall into sin, so that now through the Word of God, his son, the Lord Jesus Christ, we have become "reconciled to God by the death of his Son" and shall "be saved by his life" (Rom. 5:10), which has absolutely nothing to do with any "perfect plan โฆ to the angels through mankind." Humans have nothing to do with "the fall of the rebellious angels."โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฉ๐บ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐๐ฆ๐ด๐ถ๐ด ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ญ๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ข๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ง ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ฅ ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ต ๐ด๐ช๐ฏ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต?โฃ โฃ You obviously don't know what "foundation of the world" means. The 'founding of the world' began with Abel whose death occurred after Adam had sinned. Abel's name would be the ๐๐ข๐ซ๐ฌ๐ญ among those written in the book of life. (Luke 11:50-51; Rev. 17:8)โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ'๐ด ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ง๐ฆ๐ค๐ต ๐ฑ๐ญ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฅ๐ถ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ข๐ญ๐ญ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐๐ข๐ต๐ข๐ฏ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ด ๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด, ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฌ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ๐ด๐ช๐ค๐ข๐ญ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ญ๐ฅโฆ.โฃ โฃ No.โฃ โฃ ๐๐ง ๐๐ช๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ฐ๐ณ๐ช๐จ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ญ๐ญ๐บ ๐ค๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ถ๐จ๐ฉ ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ ๐ข๐ญ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฆ, ๐ธ๐ฉ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ช๐ฅ ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ค๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฏ ๐๐ข๐ต๐ข๐ฏ ๐ฃ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฑ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ค๐ถ๐ณ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ถ๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐๐ท๐ฆ?โฃ โฃ Adam was self-condemned, for he had been commanded by God regarding the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that he should not eat from it, "for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.โ (Gen. 2:16-17) The curse upon the ground was something in addition to what he had been sentenced, which was death.โฃ โฃ ๐๐ฅ๐ข๐ฎ ๐ช๐ด ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด๐ช๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ง๐ฐ๐ณ ๐ฑ๐ฉ๐บ๐ด๐ช๐ค๐ข๐ญ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ข๐ท๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ข ๐ฅ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ช๐ต, ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ช๐ณ๐ช๐ต ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐๐ฐ๐ฅ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ฆ๐ข๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ช๐ฏ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ฎ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ธ๐ข๐ด ๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ท๐ฆ ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ ๐ด๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ค๐ช๐ข๐ญ, ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ญ๐ฐ๐ด๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ฒ๐ถ๐ข๐ญ๐ช๐ต๐บ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ข๐ต ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ข๐ฌ๐ฆ ๐ฉ๐ช๐ฎ ๐ข๐ค๐ค๐ฆ๐ฑ๐ต๐ข๐ฃ๐ญ๐ฆ ๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ข๐ท๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ธ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ฅ๐บ ๐ฐ๐ง ๐ค๐ญ๐ข๐บ ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ญ๐ฅ ๐ฅ๐ช๐ฆโฆ.โฃ โฃ No; God purposed for Adam and his offspring to live forever here on earth. Man wasn't destined to die and was never going to heaven.โฃ โฃ [contโd]
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[1/2] ๐๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ข๐ณ๐ฆ ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ด๐ข๐ท๐ฆ๐ฅ?โฃ โฃ To the question, โWhat must I do to be saved?โ Paul answered: โBelieve in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.โ Why believe in Jesus? Because โthere is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.โ (Acts 4:12; 16:30-31)โฃโฃ โฃโฃ To be saved, one must put on Christ, โ[๐]๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐ง๐ฒ ๐จ๐ ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ ๐๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฉ๐ญ๐ข๐ณ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฉ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐ง ๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ.โ (Gal. 3:27)โฃ โฃAbsent Jesusโ sacrificial blood, โthere is no forgiveness of sins.โ (Heb 3:1, 9:11, 22) Jesus is our high priest, and because the cleansing blood of Christโs sacrifice is applied to us at our baptism, water baptism in Jesusโ name is a ๐ง๐๐๐๐ฌ๐ฌ๐๐ซ๐ฒ requirement for salvation.โฃ โฃ It is in the office that Jesus sits as our high priest that โrepentance for the forgiveness of sinsโ must be proclaimed to the people of all nations (Luke 24:47), for everyone that โ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ง๐๐ฆ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ will be saved.โ (Rom. 10:13) Many people donโt know, but they need to know Jesusโ high priestly role in mankindโs salvation, for without faith, no one can be saved. (Rom. 3:28)โฃโฃ โฃ The gospel of the kingdom of God that Jesus taught his followers requires one to get into the way of salvation by repenting of one's past sins, turning away from this world's course of conduct, openly confessing their belief that Jesus is Lord, that God resurrected him, and dedicating oneself to God by getting baptized in water. (Acts 3:19; Rom. 10:9-10)โฃ Then, as Eph. 4:22-32 states, one must make an effort to put off the โold self,โ to โbe renewed in the spirit of our mindsโ and to put on the โnew selfโ in true righteousness and holiness.โฃโฃ โฃโฃ One must โspeak the truth,โ and one can be angry, but without sinning. One cannot steal from others, watch the things we say, and put โall bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slanderโ and malice away. One must also โbe kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one anotherโ before one can be baptized โfor forgiveness of one's sins.โโฃ โฃโฃ When baptized, those โwho have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as [they] wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of [their] bodies. For in this hope [they] were saved.โ They had not yet been saved, but they were ๐ฌ๐๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐จ๐ฉ๐ that they would be adopted as God's sons, and โGod's purpose of election โฆ [continues] โฆ because of him who calls.โ (Rom. 8:23-24; 9:11)โฃโฃโฃ โฃโฃโฃ Now unless God has revealed to a Christian through his spirit that he or she has been called, justified and glorified, that Christian is not and should not claim to be born again. Assuming one has been called and chosen by God, being born again is an honor bestowed upon the Christian that has the prospect of joining Jesus in heaven and becoming a joint heir with him as a heavenly ruler in the kingdom of God when Godโs kingdom becomes the only government exercising rulership over the earth.โฃโฃโฃ โฃโฃโฃ [contโd]
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[2/2] It would be absurd, however, for anyone that has not submitted to water baptism, which is a symbol of one's dedication to God, to claim that he or she has been born again when knowing that God is only calling and adopting Christians as spiritual sons for heavenly life.โฃโฃ To be a Christian, one must have a good conscience toward God by getting baptized. (1 Pet. 3:20-21) Although I was baptized in water decades ago, at no time has 'God's Spirit borne witness with my spirit that I have been born again as one of his spiritual children.'โฃโฃ (Rom. 8:16)โฃ โฃโฃโฃ Not that I have yet been saved either, no Christian has, but having been baptized in water, I have a good conscience toward God, and know that ๐ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐๐๐๐ง ๐ฌ๐๐ฏ๐๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ก๐จ๐ฉ๐ of living forever here on earth under the heavenly kingdom of God by Christ, and will ultimately "be set free from โฆ bondage to corruption" and obtain the same freedom enjoyed by those Christians saved as โheirs according to the hope of eternal life.โ (Rom. 8:21; Tit. 3:7)โฃโฃโฃ โฃโฃ Now the apostle Paul had indeed been born again, but he admits at Php. 3:12-14 regarding his own salvation that he hadn't been made perfect yet:โฃโฃ โฃโฃ โ๐๐จ๐ญ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ฒ ๐จ๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ฆ ๐๐ฅ๐ซ๐๐๐๐ฒ ๐ฉ๐๐ซ๐๐๐๐ญ, ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฆ๐๐ค๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ง, ๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ ๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐ก๐๐ฌ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ฆ๐ ๐ก๐ข๐ฌ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ง. ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ซ๐ฌ, ๐ ๐๐จ ๐ง๐จ๐ญ ๐๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐๐๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ ๐ก๐๐ฏ๐ ๐ฆ๐๐๐ ๐ข๐ญ ๐ฆ๐ฒ ๐จ๐ฐ๐ง. ๐๐ฎ๐ญ ๐จ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐จ: ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ ๐๐ญ๐ญ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ฐ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐ง๐ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ข๐ง๐ ๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฐ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฐ๐ก๐๐ญ ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ฌ ๐๐ก๐๐๐,ย ๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง ๐ญ๐จ๐ฐ๐๐ซ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ ๐จ๐๐ฅ ๐๐จ๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฉ๐ซ๐ข๐ณ๐ ๐จ๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฎ๐ฉ๐ฐ๐๐ซ๐ ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐จ๐ ๐๐จ๐ ๐ข๐ง ๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ ๐๐๐ฌ๐ฎ๐ฌ.โฃโโฃ โฃโฃ While we can consider ourselves as being on the way to salvation according to our hope, it would be a mistake for us to think following baptism that we are now saved and cannot fall. The axiom โonce saved always savedโ cannot be true, for as Jesus said, no one is saved until that person has endured to the end. (Matt. 24:13) It is by our endurance in the faith that we demonstrate ourselves worthy of salvation, so โlet anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he [or she] fall.โ (1 Cor. 10:12)โฃโฃ โฃ ใ๐จ๐ก๐ใ๐ ๐จ๐ก๐๐๐ฆ๐ช ๐ฅ๐จ๐๐๐ฅโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃโฃ โฃ
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