"il fallait que je crie une bonne fois, que je crie au moins une fois combien j'ai payé cher cet enfant qui fut mon bonheur et qui gît là désormais, sans vie"
aegon not giving his commands in high valyrian to make him seem unworthy compared to his other family members when he spent his childhood along side his nephews learning to tame his dragon in high valyrian
rhaenyra is viserys' daughter, a rapist in the show. Aegon III and Viserys II are daemon's children, a rapist and p*do
and.... Daenerys is aerys's daughter so should she die for her fathers crimes?
i will never get over the lack of sunfyre, we're seeing the most beautiful dragon ever for a total of 1 ONE episode before his injury, never got an explaination about aegon's banner, while we got so many useless scenes of tb dragons
if i said something about aegon being forced to take the throne by and for his family only for them to treat him like shit and put all the blame on him
team black saying repeatedly that the dance is about misogyny but dislikes the show for showing exactly how much misogyny and patriarchy are ingrained in westeros? like how could alicent not be a victim of a system perpetuating gender violence on women?
people changing their opinions is always welcomed ig, but all those people who once defended israel's so called "right to defend itself" and deshumanized palestinians all have blood on their hands idc, they'll have to be reminded of that at every single chance if you ask me
“even if you did” no. you don’t get a way out now. you made your bed and you’ll lie in it, you watched innocent people die and cheered on the colonisers and now that the world is waking up you’re backpedaling but when palestine is free we’ll remember your inaction.
can we stop acting like the dance is an actual real historical event and not a story that grrm wanted to tell, if he wanted a rhaencient reunion he would have written one
#HouseOfTheDragon
showrunner Ryan Condal says they had Alicent and Rhaenyra reunite this season because 'everyone wanted to see that'
"This was not in the book, but ... it's not in the book because that would never be on the historical record"
I cannot even express how much I hate HATE the reason for alicent to make aegon king changed from her trying to protect her kids to her just misinterpreted viserys's last words my god
GRRM did not write Rhaena TBB escaping Maegor with her daughter atop Dreamfyre for y’all to say that Helaena had no choice and was forced to agree with the usurpation. BFFR, she could’ve left with her children if she wanted to. SHE CHOSE TO STAY, SHE CHOSE HER SIDE
always thinking about how episode 9 was supposed to be a high point for the greens: kingmaker moment, aegon AND helaena getting crowned, them flying on sunfyre and dreamfyre at the end of the episode
sorry to say this but is it really that hard to put a fake baby in a crib and be like "choose" between jaehaerys and maelor? and have helaena plead for her children's lives and have b&c be the monsters that they were?
"hes not a sadist" THEN WHY make him one on the show??? hes already unqualified and quite pathetic but they had to make him a full sadist who r*pes servants and watch children (including his bastards) fight???? dont they realize that doesnt make him sympathetic at all
Characters with the most screentime in
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Season 2 (rounded up to the nearest 10):
1. Rhaenyra I Targaryen - 01:44:20
2. Alicent Hightower - 01:09:10
3. Daemon Targaryen - 01:05:10
4. Aegon Il Targaryen - 00:39:00
5. Criston Cole - 00:38:20
6. Jacaerys Velaryon -
cole has two of the greatest scenes of this season with his speech at rook's rest and his monologue last episode, too bad bitches are focused on making fun of him and hating him
@Realmdelight_
and this comment doesnt disprove my point: yall seem to think jaehaera should die for the crime of being her father's daughter, why is it not the case for every targ then? do you realize this argument justifies aegon and rhaenys' murders bc of rhaegar ?
Visenya was a conqueror too, she hated the faith and im 100% sure she would hate Alicent and her rapist son.
Maegor was many things but she was proud of his strength, Aegon would be a shame for her.
alicent acting as if rhaenyra needed to be in charge to be free, girl you have been so useless to the green council anyone of them would have granted your wish to live in the wilderness
@Realmdelight_
what is this edit supposed to prove? you think i care about a fictional character's descendants? also lets ask them what they think of the woman who did nothing during the storming of the dragonpit, im sure they are very fond of her
and i wouldnt mind said useless scenes if we got some from team green as well, the fact that the general audience still has no idea of the bond between aegon and sunfyre while we're reaching the middle of s2... insane
in my book, book alicent is not even a vilain, shes a regular noble woman from one of the most important houses of the realm so she had the means to support her son's claim, therefore she did
bc ill NEVER forget when he used that excuse for changing b&c and said basically "what is the worst thing alicent would have told the historians"?????? go fuck yourself you ruined one of the most impactful moment bc you thought you could do drama and tragic better than grrm
"The thought of Cat was as painful as a bed of nettles. He wondered where she was, what she was doing. He wondered whether he would ever see her again"
ned and cat loved each other so much i find it crazy to see tweets like this
it’s really sad if Ned Stark never busted down Ashera Dayne even once. that means basically nothing fun ever happened in his life. just all grim duty and his wife getting mad at him for a break baby he didn’t actually conceive
two survivors of a war, all family dead, traumatized, depressed, angry, only ones who can understand what the other went through, not a single chance at happiness, and yet
everytime they change something from the book they use this line and im so tiredddd of it, the book has a clear plotline and the characters have traits. you have the chance to choose between all the alternatives to an event grrm proposes and you ignore it?
idk there a passage in a clash of kings (or agot?) where its explained why maester aemon is in the nights watch& i think the whole "the lords might have used him against his brother if need be" can be transplanted to aegon & his siblings, making him a constant threat to rhaenyra
“I love this scene to end the season because it brings us all back around to what this series was originally about, which is Alicent and Rhaenyra, and their two experiences that carry us through this horrible war that they’re fighting.” So true Ryan
and the show showed rhaenyra's suffering from it as well : judgment bc of her sexual life - grooming - domestic abuse - usurpation, how could you think the show is about anything other than misogyny, and that the show didnt portray the usurpation being about rhaenyra's gender?
am i being shitty if i said i wished aegon mentioned jaehaerys during his conversation with alicent in 2x4? yeah the need to prove himself, to act, but can we put just even *slightly* the accent on revenge for his dead son
vhagar does whatever aemond wants her to do so yeah they're scared aemond is going to hunt them down, vhagar wont be roaming around the realm on her own
People aren't afraid of Aemond. They're scared that his dragon is coming to hunt them down. Take Vhagar out of the equation and nobody is afraid of him.
she is NOT going to given up her husband and three children (one being 2 yrs old), her beloved mother and grandfather and 2 younger brothers for a sister she does not know, an uncle who hates his mother and grandfather like people hear yourselves, and jaehaerys was aegons heir
aegon was lord of dragonstone, king of westeros and not visenya. His whole rule is based on male primogeniture and he very much upheld this system, as did his successors so whats your point?
"aemond is my closest kin and our best sword, i welcome him" 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
defending ulf with my life from now on, we need a poor man standing up to those privileged royals who look down on him while asking him to fight their wars
GRRM is an artist, he's not a social activist. He doesn't owe an ending with the trite msg of "Monarchy is bad!" to any reader, esp since the themes of how common folks suffer under royalty is already there in the books. I don't expect mediocre YA writers to know this, tho.
by hearing some of yall the green characters should not have their motives explained, their family bonds explored, their fears and regrets showed etc but fck whats a story without great characters 😭😭😭😭
a targaryen succession war which has the possibility to showcase their hybris and self destruction in a tragic way is turned into something "more meaningful" in the context of westeros bc of the prophecy and its such a mistake lol
as a team green stan i WANT every character to get a chance at development, im able to enjoy black focused episodes bc i enjoy stories with compelling characters! i dont throw a tantrum when daemon has an interesting scene with viserys, i enjoy them even tho i dislike them both
book viserys is so dumb bc he refused to name rhaenyra hand bc he knew that would anger alicent and that the 2 of them couldnt live together in kings landing... so what did he think would happen once he died? during his own lifetime he understood the discord, and yet did nothing?
j'en ai rien à faire des violeurs et de leur destin mais par pitié s'attaquer à leurs enfants et leur famille c'est tout bonnement immoral et traumatisant pour les enfants
NOT TRUEEEE no matter how many times yall repeat this lie it will not be canon!!! Aegon the conqueror was younger than Visenya and yet he was the lord of dragonstone meaning he inherited it, not his older sister
@morghonperzys
People believing that Helaena was not a threat to Nyra don't understand Valyrian culture. In Valyria both men and women had equal rights of inheritance, and as a Princess Hel still had some threat to her. In fact, when A2 died, the Greens tried pressing his daughters claim....
@flatcathedrals
not a single attempt to understand the female characters and the universe from their part, their surface level understanding of feminism and patriarchy are so evident in regards to character like alicent
ive not listened to more than 5 seconds bc i dont wanna get spoiled even more but that "is the heir to the throne bothering you Tyland" just added 10 yrs to my lifespan
We’re ignoring the craziest part, rhaenyra’s response.. she basically said i want to but i cant… she still wants alicent, part of her still yearns to escape together even after everything
@MlleTeapot
they keep pushing him day after day and act surprised he finally snaps 😭 the way otto spoke to him after jaehaerys' death? aegon was too kind with him
oh yeah sure, is that why they passed down dragonstone through male primogeniture? mind you westerosi daughters inherit before their uncles unlike what the targaryens established for their own reign over the seven kingdoms
i see you completely skipped over “not giving a fuck about westorossi customs” rhaenyra’s entire claim to the throne is her valaryian heritage and in their customs unlike in westeros women were seen as equals but carry on 😍
she also could have agreed that aegon should be king to protect them, or simply want her husband on the throne, or she trusts her mother and grandfather, and she also will stand beside her family no matter what. Its a medieval inspired story, familal links are everything
"replace" is such a weird word, sunfyre was dead and he needed the legitimacy that a dragon gives a targaryen leader, especially since morning had hatched.
rhaena was forced to marry maegor, the man who killed her brother and husband, r*ped by him while he was actively trying to kill her remaining siblings AND her mother was fighting for her children's rights. THINK
uhh stan twitter reading those angry serbian tweets and assuming that dua lipa is a nazi 😭 i swear this conflict is very complicated so you either go read about it or you just shut the fuck up
im sorry to say this but rhaenyra's historical relevance was set in stone the moment the storming of the dragonpit happened and she simply stood there. Woman or no, there was no chance her descendants would look upon her rule kindly after that
alicent's motivations made sense in the context of westeros, any other noble woman from an important family would have done the same. she lacks in motivation bc the writers also did not explain well enough the fears tg could have and the precedents aegon bases his claim on
One good thing I can say for the D&D era of this franchise was the actors had thicker skin. If they were cast to play a villain then they played the heck out of that villain. Jack Gleeson wasn’t out here crying for sympathy points.
The worst thing about Hotd is that show Alicent stans enjoy her being sexually assaulted and depowered. Even though her writing was misogynistic, damaging and triggering they'll still insult people who prefer her written as a queen with agency instead of an inactive victim. Sick
rip to the fear that would come with the novelty of the situation, rip the wounded pride of being the first queen to not have her first son be named heir, rip the desire to hold on to the power her family has had for years