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when they made fun of the fanservice allegations >>>>>
🐹 ohhh it's pretty good?
🎻 good~
🐹 you worked hard (formally)
🎻 😒😒😒
🐹 our business relationship~
🎻 wahhh we finished!!!
THEY'RE SO... 😭😭😭
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would it be controversial if i said that the whole “whiny spoiled princess” stuff people like to label hao with is making you lot just ignore the fact that he has proven himself over and over to be an incredibly competent individual
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i genuinely lie awake at night wondering why the hell mnet collected so many 🏳️🌈 trainees in one place and created such a happy queer positive environment during the show (look no further than the guest judges) just to hand the debut group off to a piece of shit homophobic company
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cannot believe i regularly forget that this happened
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absolutely living for how haobin have finally realised they can do whatever they want and straight people will still “they seem to be very good friends” them… good for them!
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i love that hao is clearly so okay with not being referred to as hyung bc nobody calls him that when they’re not doing official stuff 😭 that zbtv behind app where taerae and gyuvin (?) just yell ZHANG HAO when he walks into the room <3
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and yes wakeone is responsible for the akgae problem as well!!! they have made decisions that have directly contributed to the animosity between those two subfandoms
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remember that voice live where we all had to listen to neul literally climbing into (his own) bed with bin followed by them whispering to each other and giggling together until it ended and we were left with the knowledge THEY gave us that bin might sleep there?
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we shouldn’t have to explain to grown people on twitter that:
•gay people exist
•queerbaiting is a term that applies to fiction exclusively
•not everything needs to have an ulterior motive maybe people just do things because they want to
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do people actually zerobaseone members planted themselves very firmly in queer communities predebut SOLELY thinking “yeah this is really going to reel ‘em in when i become an idol in 5+ years”…
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ulting hao and biasing hanbin while also loathing rosins and allins is not for the weak
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let’s be clear we HAVE seen hao change topics when he’s uncomfortable but you all laughed it off and called it “cute” because the person making him uncomfortable was a gf stan in a wedding dress and apparently the only crime is fans who stan both him and hanbin speaking to him
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im sorry zeroses SHOULD be voting for hao on upick because if he doesn’t win it then nobody from zb1 does
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you know i cringed a little when i first saw that ad bc love is love is so blatantly queercoded i thought it was a bit too much… they have managed to outdo me on the crazy scale yet again
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already seeing people say they don’t know what that phrase means… okay sure in your universe they’re het but either way both of them esp hanbin have been utterly immersed in queer culture predebut, i promise you even the straightest waacker ever knows basic lgbt/allyship phrases
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two things can be true at once:
1) this is the best organised we’ve ever been for a comeback and we should be proud of that
AND 2) we mustn’t get complacent and assume we’ve got wins in the bag against such strong competition
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you can stick your fingers in your ears and go “ lalalalala we were right it was a schedule” all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that if you give ANYONE a choice between a full day of work and a casual holiday vlog, you know exactly what they’re picking
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some of you take the fact that zh is insanely smart and run with it to paint him as some sort of cold hearted manipulative liar… all because you don’t like how close haobin are…
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this one’s been in the drafts for a while but im adding don’t publicly fantasise about him being a “queerbaiter” in a space full of antis and homophobes either
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ive had this in my drafts for actual months and you lot tempt me to tweet it every 3 business days
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there’s no way any of you are surprised that the same person telling zh to his face that they were jealous of his relationship with hb wants to become y/n through bothering hb’s family
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im giggling about all the newfound rage for cropping members out of trio pics because where were all of you when shbpics fought tooth and nail for their “right” to crop zh out of all the dicon stuff last year bc “the people want woongsungz 🥺”
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people drawing the line at this question when he knew exactly what he was going to be asked and he had no intention of answering it 😭 atp i think it’s just projection because this interaction was orchestrated by him from start to finish and he wouldn’t make himself uncomfortable
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imagine trying to leverage haojui against haobin when the jui in question is really close with hanbin as well and carries haobin stickers around on his notebook
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what “size difference” that is a twink4twink couple
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almost a year since wakeone saw them smell each other’s breath and decided they had to go to jail
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•talking about other members is very common for all duos + solos who only want anecdotes about their bias
•paying for a conversation is not treating them like people by default. you cannot know how they feel about any fansign unless they say so. speaking for them is projection
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rosins and allins encourage the belief that to stan one of them is to hate the other. i wholly dislike both subfandoms and how they’ve cultivated this insanely toxic atmosphere in such a short time which cannot be questioned by anyone or else we’re somehow antis of both
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a discussion about the ethics of buying a 2 minute window where a celebrity’s sole purpose is to do/say whatever pleases you? im all for it! but you cannot LITERALLY buy wholesale into that practice and then say you’re doing it the “right way” and everyone Except you is unethical
•talking about other members is very common for all duos + solos who only want anecdotes about their bias
•paying for a conversation is not treating them like people by default. you cannot know how they feel about any fansign unless they say so. speaking for them is projection
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what the fuck are you even doing reporting someone who’s asking hao a genuine and sincere question JUST bc they have a haobin pfp and user
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“this is false no real allin would have put haobin as their favourite duo” and there’s the problem with this fandom in one sentence
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people drawing the line at this question when he knew exactly what he was going to be asked and he had no intention of answering it 😭 atp i think it’s just projection because this interaction was orchestrated by him from start to finish and he wouldn’t make himself uncomfortable
🥤: if you went to a fansign of a ship that you shipped, what question would you ask them?
🎻: What did you do last night?
🥤: So what did you guys do last night?
🎻: (That's a) secret
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none of you people can be fucking normal we’ve got a fandom that can’t appreciate ties to the community without turning everything into a joke AND can’t criticise that behaviour without being homophobic as hell in response
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telling someone to stop eating over and over is OBJECTIVELY a put-down. there is nothing funny about it, it’s not a nice thing to say and pointing this out doesn’t make anyone an anti.
public figures are allowed to be put under scrutiny for things they say in public.
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it’s crazy how hanbin probably expected fans to be comforted by the knowledge that there would be content on the way but instead they got even more enraged because they’d rather see him with anyone except zb1 and except hao specifically
you can stick your fingers in your ears and go “ lalalalala we were right it was a schedule” all you want, but that doesn’t change the fact that if you give ANYONE a choice between a full day of work and a casual holiday vlog, you know exactly what they’re picking
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logging off the moment your bias is talking to or about a member that your entire fucking subfandom wants d*ad and then logging back on to translate everyfuckingthing else isn’t a coincidence and it’s insulting to expect zeroses to believe that it is lmao
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and still akgaes and solos will continue to claim moral superiority by pretending they care about their bias more than zeroses when this is what they do the moment he doesn’t conform to their expectations
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lying to yourselves that hao isn’t popular outside of china doesn’t make it true btw
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seeing fans of other pairings complain about behind the scenes content being called fanservice 😭😭 get back to me when people start claiming wakeone ordered your ship to go out to eat together and PAID a random non fan to encounter them and post about it
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am i the only one that didn’t form parasocial attachments to tiny cramped rooms and fuckass bunk beds
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of all the strange comments on haobin edits trying way too hard to find something platonic about them, “they were father and son in a past life” is certainly unique…
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just thought about how hao might have come up with the idea of showing gyuvin’s picture because he didn’t want to give antis any opportunity to use ot8 pictures against gyuvin like they did (and still do) with him…
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super fine line between wanting the best for the members and claiming to know better than the members themselves about what is best for them/what they should do
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tbh i just think we all need to know a little less about each other (@ HAOBIN)
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hoping that they’ve done something INTERESTING with it because the idea of being trapped in fiction is so intriguing, but to throw such a good idea away for unoriginal heteronormative romance with the woman being a blank character &faceless stand-in for a multi gendered fanbase…
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had a dream wakeone scheduled the haobin live to shut us all up… is it a prophecy
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if you weren’t in the fandom from july-november and/or have limited knowledge of the serious akgae problem in the fandom then you probably won’t understand this tweet! that’s okay, you don’t have to engage with it 🧍
155k likes... wakeone really fumbled the bag with haobin... no agency would have done the shit job wakeone did 💀
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@neulbinyeope
a man pouts a few times and suddenly everyone forgets that he’s an ambitious intellectual with an academic record and CV to be envied
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going to sleep soundly knowing i make decisions about supporting the cb based on real things the members have actually communicated about wanting, rather than what i’ve decided is best for them as someone with no connection to the idols in question
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im going to get seriously murderous with the people calling ha0 a queerbaiter when they don’t know shit about the hell people put him through for months on end and to this day even
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imagine seeing something your fave worked so hard on get so much positive attention and your first thought is to try to tear it down by any means just bc you don’t like the person he worked with 😭😭😭😭 what’s the point of even stanning atp
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god if you can hear me get haobin on a magazine cover and i’ll start believing in you
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whatever wakeone has against haobin is literally emboldening akgaes on both sides… yet you lot would rather say you’re glad it’s happening bc you hate people who dare to suggest they might be gay more than you hate people who take any excuse to viciously attack either of them
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how do you see a tweet saying “wakeone micromanaging the interactions between the two people with the largest nastiest fanbases is feeding into those fanbases’ delusions that they hate each other” and THIS is what you take from it? it’s not about the ship it’s about WAKEONE
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life becomes so much less miserable when you start considering that kpop idols are capable of thinking and acting outside of the scope of their careers, ESPECIALLY ones that didn’t even exist at the time
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genuinely think wk1 is so insistent on pretending aaa didn’t happen because they want everyone to forget how incompetent they were with ricky’s visa… and yet again it’s hanbin that gets thrown under the bus with all his hard work as mc going unacknowledged
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if i try hard enough i Can tell hanbin telepathically that all the mother talk is purely zeroses appreciating his artistry and especially queer zeroses loving him sososososo much and being SO proud to stan someone so inspiring
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that expose thread is juvenile and pointless but why is it not enough for people that we’ve all seen how scary the delusions are getting AND that she’s proven herself more than capable of throwing zh under the bus 50 times a week just to defend being a gf stan?
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whatever allins can refuse to open their eyes to how devoted haobin are to each other but can they not make it our problem? hao being sulky and whiny and dramatic is nothing new, and your projected victim complex in which the whole world hates hanbin except allins is NOT REAL
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also do not give akgaes ANY fucking ground on this. no matter how “reasonable” they seem they just want an excuse. give them an inch and they will take a mile. you don’t have to disagree with them (it was an unnecessary comment) but you don’t have to boost their platforms either
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i hate these “it boy” discussions bc none of it makes any damn sense and nobody can agree on any criteria… However if you are refusing to even entertain THE zhang hao in the conversation then i don’t trust or like you
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there is no universe in which you can complain that people are not leaving positive comments when we ARE and you are REPORTING them… that’s all on you not caring about your bias enough to work with other people who love him, just because they love someone else too
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some of you seem to have a hard time grasping that gay men aren’t just fictional concepts and can and do see these weird tweets full of repackaged homophobic rhetoric
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bin knows we see right through him. in fact, i think he expects us to
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can i just say ive always hated the fuckass zepisodes because it’s so obvious they’re being directed to say and do certain things… when hao talked about kissing matthew but “changed his mind” and decided to buy him a meal after the reflection of a manager mimed eating…
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@haosbeanie
“i’m sad because hb likes you more than me” what makes anyone think this is appropriate to say to an idol… you are a FAN! not to mention poor zh having to say that’s not true even though it should be and is
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who wants to bet wk1 will try to solve this issue by giving hao 3 hours of notice before he has to hop on weibo live for no longer than eight minutes
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pqrts are making me nervous so i would like to clarify he is also whiny and spoiled! when he WANTS to be… but that man is so jobful there’s no way he’s not winning every case he’s given
would it be controversial if i said that the whole “whiny spoiled princess” stuff people like to label hao with is making you lot just ignore the fact that he has proven himself over and over to be an incredibly competent individual
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like please explain to me how you all jump from the fact that he gives different tmis to different types of fans to conclude that he must be lying whenever he mentions shb? rather than… him just thinking of something he could say that matches the vibe of the conversation…
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an akgae bringing up any sort of disagreement in a language they KNOW most of us can’t understand on a platform they KNOW most of us can’t access will 9 times out of 10 be in bad faith and deliberately presented in a way designed to incite hate.
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ive seen so many tweets like this and while yes i agree, it’s incredibly worrying that people see an image of zh and just start talking about akgaes… that’s how you end up associating him with them which is why so many “ot9s” can insult him and use his fanbase as a defence rn
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wakeone is truly baffling in the worst of ways. they actively sabotage their own profits just to do stupid shit like this there has to be a higher up with a grudge or something because what’s the POINT. so spiteful and nasty and ricky deserves so so so much better
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imagine being homophobic as a rosin knowing one of the first things we ever learned about hao is that he is ruthless in his mockery of homophobes… like he does NOT like you!
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they have got to stop saying these things about food and eating man
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blaming an idol for the actions of their fans is exactly what they do? so if you’re both as bad as each other was he supposed to not thank zeroses as well?
don’t hate me but kinda weird he thanked his solo fans who spend there days just hating on the other members…
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all im saying is let’s keep it consistent because too many of you disappear in the face of the issues you claim to be so torn up about UNTIL you can show up and perform outrage about ha0binists. mind you this current rps discourse has had very little to do with ha0bin and yet
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god forbid people be gay and talented at the same time 😭 not my fault you can’t “take them seriously” what sort of evil thing to say
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they even reported that poor fan that just wanted to drink mango juice with zh and he haobinified it all on his own 😭 wtf did they do
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“shbg did this shbg did that” yeah well shbg also prepared a written apology for allin akgaes who were mad they wished zh happy lunar birthday, and wrote a statement complaining about hb’s HAIR before even mentioning the hate he was facing so shbg can cry me a fucking river
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rt because like… they’re Real people not a fictional tropey bl drama couple, and they will act accordingly! if that is genuinely distressing to you then you need to take a step back bc you’re making yourself miserable for no reason and bringing the rest of us down with you
wanted to say this for a long time but some “ha0binists” pissing me off fr. why is it so easy for yall to remember that before they’re ha0bin they’re their own person. just bc a lot of the time they’re choosing to spend time with each other doesn’t make it okay to forget they’re-
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how can you actually claim in full seriousness that by nature of biasing one member of a group, you must dislike another member of the same damn group and their relationship… idk if i was proofreading my own tweet and saw those words i would take a social media break immediately
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rosins of all people should know that hao is more than capable of standing up for himself and if he thought any choreo would be dangerous for him he would say so. why not trust your bias to know what’s best for himself instead of treating him like a damsel that needs saving?
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“aha he’s so cute talking about the gaming chair all of a sudden” So cute and definitely nothing to do with the girl sat in front of him with a veil on asking him to call her pretty
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do you lot really think hb is attracted to women or do you just want him to be
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the haobin tiktok has covered both extremes of fan perception of kpop artists: on one end they are completely sheltered from any knowledge of a staple gay phrase, on the other they do know and the entire setup is for FUJO MONEY bc that’s their only motivation for anything ever
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how anyone could look at today’s events and see anything but overwhelming love and care for YOUR BIAS…
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am i denying that wk1 probably begged them to film a dance challenge to shut their akgaes up? not at all, i think that it’s very likely!
do i think that wk1 dictated the content of this tiktok down to the great big LOVE IS LOVE in the background? no the fuck i do not
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oh here come the tweets again… you guys HAVE to realise that there is a 0.5% chance of the people actually asking these questions coming across your tweet. who are you actually preaching at? bc everyone reading what you’re saying already agrees
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and it’s crazy bc it’s people that claim to stan him that label every interaction he has with someone they don’t like or every time he talks about them as “fanservice” as if it’s not incredibly insulting to accuse him of being insincere 24/7
some of you take the fact that zh is insanely smart and run with it to paint him as some sort of cold hearted manipulative liar… all because you don’t like how close haobin are…
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genuinely don’t know why i censored this bc it’s not speculation it’s a real thing that happened but it just feels too intimate to put out in the open with their names somehow… what the fuck bnb
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an ot9 fanbase encouraging votes for the member most likely to win is good fandom organisation (which zeroses have been sorely lacking), complaining about any good strategy just because it happens to be someone other than your bias is the reason zeroses were doomed from the start
voting for someone with no chance of winning who is in the same group as someone who is currently in 1st is RIDICULOUS and exactly the solo stan behavior i was on about
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so you clearly don’t care about body image issues or diet culture, all you’re concerned with is “hb got hate so zh should too 😤”. its childish and it’s NOT the way these issues should be discussed.
i wonder where was this same energy when hb did the same to zh and everyone harassed him to the point he had to apologize publicly
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i urge everyone who’s posting the screenshots to delete them and focus on flooding positive comments about bin and zb1 under that post! we need to reduce the likelihood of him having to see them as much as possible
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@jangbingz
i knew from the moment reports based bans were brought in that they wouldn’t do anything about haters and akgaes would just exploit it to get harmless people banned… we already know they report everyone with pfps, usernames etc they don’t like, including people who got a reply
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zb1 letting us know they know what’s going on in the fandom is always funny because why is it just mocking akgaes 9 times out of 10
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no, calling people sluts just because you think they’re gay and they happen to interact with multiple people of the same gender isn’t “porn” it’s a well known stereotype about promiscuity… please THINK a little
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