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"History alone decides the issue. Truth is not eternal, it is a programme to be fulfilled. The more “eternal” a truth is, the more lifeless it is and worthless; it says nothing more to us because it is self-evident."
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We've seen this Ne vs Ni schematic. It's nice and *cough* intuitive. But it's lacking some crucial *cough* details 😎
Like how a picture is worth a 1000 words, many complex concepts can be conveyed with a single idea. Intuition is that single idea, it's one effective convenient
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People see ESFPs as simple minded, but they’re totally sleeping on how highly intuitive they are with feelings (NiFi). They just know. They have an empathy antenna, and they’re so straightforward with it.
Acting all dumb and silly throughout the walk and then luffy just casually drops that he has been observing you all along. If im sanji and usopp i would wary of him 😭
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One of the few things in
#MBTI
that works well is J v P. But the 4 letter naming scheme is all wrong. eg, IJs are actually P-leads, IPs are actually J-leads. Here's how it should be:
ENFJ v ESTP
ENTJ v ESFP
ESFJ v ENTP
ESTJ v ENFP
INFJ v ISTP
INTJ v ISFP
ISFJ v INTP
ISTJ v INFP
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You know how introverts recharge alone, extroverts recharge around people? What if it's the other way?
Extroverts have an internal battery and expand their energy outward. When drained, they go inward looking for a peaceful place to recharge.
Switch it around for introverts.
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Why would you wanna protect INFPs? What gets you the urge to cuddle grown ass adults? Are you sheltering an inner INFP?
The
#INFP
label is used to project your unprocessed inner child, and that's not what being an INFP even means. They don't need you. Your inner child needs you
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I love this answer on reddit. But an INTJ being edgy dark sigma male *screams* incel lol
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When the judging function is 💯 sure:
P-leads (IxxJ ExxP) be like “well isn’t it obvious?”
J-leads (IxxP ExxJ) be like “This has to be it, I just don’t see it in any other way”
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This is why you’re actually all 16 types. It’s just that you consciously experience one of them. This is also why others might see you as a different type because that’s what they consciously see from you
Most people confuse 'self-knowledge' with knowledge of their ego-personalities. Anyone who has any ego-consciousness at all takes it for granted that he knows himself. But the ego knows only its own contents, not the unconscious and its contents.
— Carl G. Jung, CW 10
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That trope about women needing emotional support, not solutions, goes against the stereotype that F-doms are likely women. It’d make better sense for T-types (ETJ EFP IFJ ITP)
They already know what they need to do. They’re telling you about it, working thru and building up the
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For those familiar with the Child function. A child is like a big bundle of energy. They take more risks, are more spontaneous and playful. They get excited for anything and want to experience immediately.
Because that's more apparent, we mistake that for the Dominant function.
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Not a hard & fast rule, but this seems true:
For introverts, Te=competence Fe=ethics
For extroverts, Te=heart Fe=excellence
So T- types (ITJ IFP ETP EFJ) have high standards of competence and excellence. And F- types (IFJ ITP EFP ETJ) have high standards of heart and ethics.
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Being a type means you have patterns and resist exploring outside of them. Transcending means whatever you tried to avoid now becomes a chance to explore. So you still have to be in your patterns, for transcending to be a conscious thing so you can deliberately choose to explore
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You may have heard how the inf fx (opp) can become more powerful than if it was dominant. ie, INFPs can be "more" ESTJ than regular ESTJs. Jung would say it's a way to compensate, balancing being Fi-dom with bursts of Te.
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It's thxgiving day in 🇺🇸 So I'd like to thx y'all for allowing me to nerd out about typology. I learned a lot from our convos. I appreciate your thoughts. It's been ~1yr since I started on this app. I hope my content has been insightful. Thx all for welcoming and supporting me 🙏
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It is not your dominant function if you:
- are scared of it
- glorify it
- ignore it
- suppress it
- are relieved by it
- are empowered by it
- are enslaved by it
- are obsessed with it
- suffer from it
- worship it
- invested in it
- protect it
- rely on it
- trust it
- bash it
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Building their T-, one gathers different perspectives as soundboards, the other mediates with different sides of themselves
If you wonder what’s an introvert’s inner world is like, see what the extrovert counterpart does but inward with themselves. And vice versa
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One quick dirty way for T+ vs F+ is:
T+ modeling
F+ motivating
This is more true for anyone with high conscientiousness and desire to achieve
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Love this take of the Whiplash film. JK Simmons’ character is definitely a lot of people’s divergent function
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Since our frontal lobes don’t fully develop until 25, our cognition (the actual one that science refers to) isn’t used to its full extent. How does that affect the Jungian cognitive functions? How much should we consider that when we judge types if they’re not fully developed?
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How you feel about people doesn't determine whether you're introverted or extraverted. Just because you can't stand people and want to stay away from them doesn't make you an introvert. And just because you like people and crave socializing doesn't make you an extravert.
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Fe+ vs Fi+ and Te- vs Ti- 🧵
Extraverted vs Introverted; ie cognitively reactive vs proactive; ie hindsight vs foresight
Q: So I don't understand, I'm very confused about when a dominant function is introverted or extroverted. I just know it's not about being “quiet” or about
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Some people joined typology communities because they felt misunderstood and looked for refuge that validated who they are.
Once they found they're one of the revered types, they became like the same supremacists who misunderstood them in the first place
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INTP
@nihilismrift
asking how Se/Ni vs Ne/Si types dwell on the past
Picking ENTJ
@innodinotte
's reply to highlight how these two types are the same and different. 🧵below
Genuinely asking for Se/Ni users out there (Ne/Si users are welcome to correct me) y’all ever made a mistake in the past that affects your present? Of course, right?
But have y’all ever thought something like “If I hadn’t done it, what will the present be?”
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To expand, ITPs/IFJs are actually quite conscientious of the things they come up with
ETPs/EFJs like to study from sources rather than formulating their own. It just has to make sense. Since they don't own the information, it can feel like they pull things out of their ass lol
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Fundamental attribution error: "We judge others by their actions, we judge ourselves by our intentions"
I got into typology for the very purpose to better understand others' intentions. But it's interesting to see how people use typology to further judge others by their actions
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Truth =/= Reality. While true, you can only see one projected side of the whole truth when you’re stuck being one type. When you’re letting go of that one side you were clinging onto, ie loosening the actual“grip”, you’re individuating.
Allow others, in grace, to have their own reality. I say reality, not truth, not what you (or I) deem correct or incorrect. Just allow them to inhabit their own reality, whatever it is - its images, thoughts, fantasies, emotions.
So often, everyone tries to correct it & to
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Always a good reminder.
It’s easy to think “worth by others” is a Feeling thing. But it can also very well be a Thinking thing.
Not hard and fast rule, but it appears that F+ types try to measure their worth, while T+ try to prove their worth.
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With N v S...
ENJs are S-types, they like to be impactful and make things happen. That's making things concrete with Se! Ni pushes them to test the boundaries
ESJs are N-types, they like to see things community wide at scale. They're seeing the big picture with Ne, with Si
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Being brutally honest is different depending on type. For F+ types like EFJ ETP, it’s to communicate T- directly. This is natural when they know what they’re talking about, they have the emotional “know-how” in case their words were too harsh.
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“If they wanted to, they would” is such a
#ENTP
statement 😆 The logic is so stupidly clear (T-), all that’s left to execute is the motivation (F+)
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“And most of the time, the 16 archetypes appear as underdeveloped characters belonging in a poorly written love fan fiction. These types are assumed as whole personalities, or even worse whole identities”
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There's no context without content, and content has no meaning without context.
Just like how there's no N without S, and S has no meaning without N.
"When paying full attention and taking in as much of reality as one possibly can, one comes quickly into a paradox because to
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Most think money is a Te thing, but it's also a Fe thing. Would you let me slap you for $5? How about $50? $5000?
Money, like fear and kindness, is an effective way to stir emotions and motivate people.
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To be specific, this is a Fi+ process and how ITJ/IFP come to understand sth. A Ti+ process from IFJ/ITP takes the experience and models it to make sense out of it. It’s not that they duno their emotions, they’re just not done fitting them into their models to make conclusions
In psychology one possesses nothing unless one has experienced it in reality. Hence a purely intellectual insight is not enough, because one knows only the words and not the substance of the thing from the inside.
— Carl G. Jung, CW 9ii
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Retweeting this to show that you could possibly be from the same environment, even be the same type yet respond differently to the same stimuli.
We can have the same functions, but respond to them very differently. We can relate, but not relate. And that makes things interesting
Two identical twins had an alcoholic father
One twin grew up to be an alcoholic father
The other grew up to be a present, engaged dad and millionaire entrepreneur
When asked why he became an alcoholic, the first twin said “because my dad was an alcoholic”
When asked why he
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ITJ/IFP Fi+ self-motivates by reconciling w/ their role in the world or by creating purpose on their own to fulfill a desired one
EFJ/ETP Fe+ motivates others by making them realize their roles in the world or by instilling purpose and convince them to achieve a desired outcome
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Being a type doesn't equate hate or follow rules. It all depends if they make sense.
Rules represent F- here. So F+ types (IFP/ITJ) know the rules, they follow/reject/not care. F- types (ITP/IFJ) have their own idea of what rules should be. They explain/question/propose new ones
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Funny how “get a grip” has an opposite meaning to the meaning of being in a “grip” in MBTI circles
So to get out of the “grip”, you need to get a grip
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INJs want to develop Se, when it’s been so powerful. Reality seen in a bad light because they haven’t found a way to accept it. Whole conscious lives made based on that. The true ego nemesis, growing stronger the more the ego loves itself until we realize it’s who we are as well.
One of my favourite teachers, Robert Bly, on how every part of ourselves that we do not accept de-evolves.
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To add on, the Child wants to be the Hero. We call it the Agency bc we're NPCs blindly following our Parent/Authority without it
And this blows this "thinkers feelers" thing out of the water. EFPs taking ownership of their lives are the biggest purest "thinkers" of them all
For those familiar with the Child function. A child is like a big bundle of energy. They take more risks, are more spontaneous and playful. They get excited for anything and want to experience immediately.
Because that's more apparent, we mistake that for the Dominant function.
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Barbie has arguably the most point blank straightforward plot about individuation.
We can learn from Barbie about moving beyond stereotypes, outgrowing roles, detaching our identity from things, and embrace the open-endedness that is existence.
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“Architecture is identity… Architecture affects how we feel, even when we don't realise or want it to”
Beyond order, facts, and efficiency, Te is also color, shapes, music, language etc…Te is art. It invokes and conveys Fi emotions
Why do heroes always live in cottages and villains in castles or towers?
Here's how film makers use architecture to influence our emotions — and what architects can learn from Shrek...
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ENTP: I look at different aspects that could be linked to a situation or perhaps how it would evolve. But I wouldn’t be convinced that “it could be this or could be that, what if this or what if that, what about if this is something else.” I like to speculate on the results,
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I'm always fascinated of seeing the inferior function at work in all--not some or mature, but all--people. Everyone deals with it. Even if you're suppressing it, the very fact you're aware you're suppressing it proves the power it has on you.
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I like this take of free will:
"If you wanted to do something in an area in which you're not educated, you can just use the internet to become educated about it. This is exactly why the internet is such a powerful tool, and why it gives you even more free will.
It has the
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Se dominants live in the present because they're building a future their Ni envisioned.
ESFPs see future visions of themselves (NiFi), and pave their way there (SeTe). ESTPs figure future life paths (NiTi), and go with what they feel most strongly about (SeFe->SiFi)
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I’ve never understood what the “demon” function is. But if I try: everybody is a slave to something. Anything directly in disagreement with that something is a demon. Which is just a woo-woo way of saying you don’t wanna take the nuanced approach 🤷🏻♂️
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ENTP: Sometimes I get completely absorbed by an idea when I'm trying to understand something. Depending on the idea, it could last a whole day or even weeks, lol. How do you differentiate between Se inferior and Se demon, and Si inferior and Si demon? For example, I tend to
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From Jung's "Psychology and Religion: West and East"
To summarize:
With order, out comes chaos thrashing it. The unconscious breaks through the conscious "rationally ordered" mind. Nature waits for the conscious world to let its guards down to destroy it.
We can extrapolate
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Rather than saying a type is logical or emotional, it might be better to say if they’re factual or opinionated
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And when the judging function is not sure:
P-leads (IxxJ ExxP) be like “well let’s just see how it goes”
J-leads (IxxP ExxJ) be like “This doesn’t add up, I just don’t know what I’m missing”
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If you want to develop Ti-/Fe+ ⬇️
"Why bother arguing about politics? nobody ever changes their mind!" all my friends keep saying this but damnit it's literally objectively not true. please stop repeating this.
I have a process for how to change anybody's mind about anything. Here it is:
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He had his reasons, however valid they were. Instead of going thru long self reflections about his identity and his place in the world, he knew right there and then what he was gonna do. All action after that and nobody was gonna get in his way. And people think he’s a Fi dom? 🤔
Anime boy math is having 1 traumatic event happen to you as a child and instead of growing as a person you start a fascist death cult and kill 80% of the world.
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IFJ/ITP Ti+ builds mental processes and models to predict actions and behaviors. The desire is for their models to accurately represent how the world works
ETJ/EFP Te+ builds process and models out of what's happening in the current context, and shape the world as desired
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This is a great thread! We can also of think the "child" function as where we place our ego. Anything we do with our ego like inflating and defending it hits that function.
The tertiary function is one that simultaneously feels vulnerable and wants to be loved and supported. Often called "The Child", this function is easily excited but also easily ashamed. When you're with someone who's tapping into their tertiary function, (cont'd)
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Convergent+ is like loving
Divergent- is like being in love
"The superior function is always an expression of the conscious personality, of its aims, will, and general performance, whereas the less differentiated functions fall into the category of things that simply “happen”
The challenge in determining someone's personality type is that we need to figure out if their expressions come from their conscious thoughts or from their unconscious mind.
We can look at the person's behavior and see if it's something they're choosing to do intentionally or
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I don’t know who needs to hear this, but their shadow their responsibility.
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Similarly, that’s how EFPs and IFJs build their F-. They break down T+ concepts and work through logic (with others or themselves) to develop their thoughts. Through that, they find where they stand on, get closer to who they are, who others are. Many gain respect from that
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Wherever your Sensing function is, paired with its judging function, means where you see things as nuanced. An ENTJ with TeSe is a nuanced thinker. An ESTJ with FiSi is a nuanced feeler. In turn, an ENTJ with FiNi is a general feeler, and an ESTJ with TeNe is a general thinker.
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To clarify, when extroverts don't have that safe internal place to recharge, it can feel like they're running away from themselves all burnt out. For introverts, it's like the whole world is out to get them, no where is safe. They're withdrawing further totally detached from the
You know how introverts recharge alone, extroverts recharge around people? What if it's the other way?
Extroverts have an internal battery and expand their energy outward. When drained, they go inward looking for a peaceful place to recharge.
Switch it around for introverts.
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I'd add that even just knowing evil isn't enough
"We have turned it into a kind of virtue to not have any relationship with evil. Or even better, we have turned it into a virtue to not understand evil. We think it's a very good thing to not understand evil, because it means that
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"In order to properly manage Fi, you gotta understand what Te is," says the INFP
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Let's go back to those metaphors of that "flourishing civilization" vs these "invading barbarians"
"civilization" is your convergent functions and "barbarians" is your divergent functions.
If you're so concerned to defend your civilization from barbarians that no energy is
From Jung's "Psychology and Religion: West and East"
To summarize:
With order, out comes chaos thrashing it. The unconscious breaks through the conscious "rationally ordered" mind. Nature waits for the conscious world to let its guards down to destroy it.
We can extrapolate
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This naming scheme being wrong has a lot to do with what introverts hate about their stereotypes. J-lead IPs think it's patronizing to be seen as playful little kids. P-lead IJs are being misunderstood as structure enforcers when all they want is be free to do their own thing
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One of the key videos of CPT. What we all refer to as "cognitive functions" are really metaphorical *cognitive elements*. Elements don't mean anything by themselves, unless they're all combined to create a *functional* experience.
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uh oh
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Jung briefly referred the dominant function as the "reality-function" and I think it's a better way to think about it than being the "strongest" hero function.
Our conscious sense of Self lives *within* that reality-function. It's not a superpower.
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Flip this towards the self for Te-/Fi+
- Understand the territory
- Understand my map
- <i love me lol>
- Find insightful examples of my map not matching the territory that I know
- *real Fi+ secret sauce* Make my map to fit all territories and beyond
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Am I an INFP or INFJ?
Look between H and K on your keyboard
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(I’M SO SORRY)
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When INFPs go into "ESTJ" mode, their Te isn't as Fi influenced like ESTJs. It's more objective. Many INFPs promote embracing the cold truth. Reality just is. We need to understand it using a pure logical mindset so we can be best informed when we're sorting our feelings about it
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