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Professional Gambling Expert. Member of Sports Gambling Hall Of Fame Board of Directors. Interviewed by @Spanky on @BeBetterBettors podcast. (link below)
Missing Vegas, Now in Michigan
Joined March 2021
The HAT and COIN (@not_a_tout) has released its Circa Contest selections for the entire season. Since all selections are generated at random, there was no reason not to select the entire season now. Here are the games. Picks with the spreads and updated records will be tweeted.
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This is such a crock of shit. US Operators are forcing players to use offshore sites because they spend millions of dollars to cater to what they perceive as square clientele while deterring what they perceive as sharp or potential winning players by limiting them to under $100.
Kudos @AGWilliamTong and Connecticut regulators for calling attention to the dangers of illegal operators posing as legal sportsbooks. Only the legal market provides responsible gaming measures and consumer protections.
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Where else can you have as much fun as George did for an entire football season for only $135.
There it is. I forgot to mention my three CPOY positions are in the middle of the sheet. The winner will be announced in four weeks.
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We've run into a big problem. We are in the elevator on the way up to the VIP Party at the Legacy Club. The elevator is stuck between floors and we're trapped here. DON'T SEND HELP, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
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Here's the one you've all been waiting for, my friend Billy Walters. The Sports Gambling Hall Of Fame couldn't exist if he weren't a first ballot inductee. He is by all standards the greatest Sports Gambler that ever lived.
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This is outrageous and unconscionable. If you had any player prop on Aaron Rodgers for under passing yards, pass attempts, pass completions, for the game or the season you should be paid. Rodgers started the game and the season you therefore have action regardless of the fact.
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@realvegasjimmy No analytics are ever going to convince me that down 7 or 8 in that spot it is ever right to kick the field goal. Down 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 or 11 it's OK. Green Bay took the ball out of Aaron Rodgers hands last year in the playoffs, virtually same situation, they lost by 4. #Insane.
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On my last days in Vegas I was reminiscing about Little Caesar's on the strip run by the legendary Gene Mayday. It was like the no frills version of @CircaSports. No one was ever refused a wager. The players were allowed to play.
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Here I am with legendary bookmaker Scotty Shetler who used to manage the Stardust Sportsbook. You should also read his book: "We were the wise guys and we didn't even know it." Great look at how it was in the 80s and 90s.
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Hanging out at Mega Bar with @StormBuonantony and @DerekJStevens. It just doesn't get any better than this!!!!
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I tried to tail two of your plays at DRAFT KINGS:. Spence over 15.5 outs at -125 fifteen cents worse risking 125 to win 100. And Brown over 17.5 outs at -205 ten cents worse risking 205 to win 100. As you can see on both bets, I was limited to risking less than $65 on the first
Walking Bets sponsored by @DKSportsbook @DraftKings .Mitch Spence: Over 15.5 Outs -110.DBacks ML -155.Braves ML -142.Redsox F5 ML -145.Hunter Brown O 17.5 Outs -195 (this has gotten juicy).BONUS: Giants Orioles U 7.5 -125. #DKPartner
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The only reason the offshore industry is still such a popular option for people is because the regulated books in the US are only interested in servicing what they perceive to be losing players, forcing perceived winning players to seek other options to play.
In a letter to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, the American Gaming Association (@AmericanGaming) urges the Department of Justice to crack down on illegal gambling operators. Excerpt on offshore sportsbooks below from letter below:
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Here I'm with the daughter of Lefty" Rosenthal. She will be accepting the SGHOF Award for her father. Robert DiNero portrayed "Lefty" in the movie Casino.
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Taylor, I met you at Bet Bash. How is it that you can endorse this operation that severely limits any players that show a propensity to win? Everyone bets trying to win. Your new boss limits perceived winners to less than $50 per game. I've been a fan of yours to this point, but.
Officially taking my talents to @DraftKings @DKSportsbook 🙌🏼 .I am so excited for this opportunity and grateful to have you all along for the ride! Get ready for some amazing things ahead and thank you to DraftKings for making me apart of the best in the game! Bets galore for NFL
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The night hasn't ended yet. I'm at the Legacy Club hanging out with @spanky and @DerekJStevens. It just doesn't get any better than this.
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Don't send help. We'll figure it out on our own.
Word is guests have been stuck in a TI elevator for the last three hours, rescue crews have been stymied. We are only really sharing this because we don’t get to use the word “stymied” often enough.
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Just had a wonderful evening eating dinner with my good friend @Spanky. The launch of @spankodds is imminent.
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Hanging out at the bar with @grpwins, one of the top sports Twitter content creators and self-proclaimed prop expert.
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George, Taylor is a respected member of the BetBash community and was looking forward to coming back next year. Apologize for your comment and start showing more respect to the female members of our community. Right now, George, your legacy is a notebook full of bets that could.
If she had a Survivor pool with a $69 entry I would join. $100 is too much.
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George. Your winnings on those tickets is only $815.13. You don't get to claim the risk amount as winnings. Your total risk was 1095.57 (200+200+200+160+335.57). Your total cash out was 1910.70 (290+290+290+336+704.70). Your net win was $815.13. (1910.70-1095.57). George, in.
I tweeted yesterday I forgot about ten betslips that I had hidden. Yesterday I tweeted the losers and here are the winners. It’s fun finding 2K I didn’t know I had!
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It just keeps getting better and better, now I'm hanging with @JeffreyBenson12 who is fast becoming legendary in the industry. @CircaSports truly has a keeper there.
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@spanky I heard the reason you got Covid 19 so early was be cause you thought it was going to go to Covid 21 and you wanted to buy it back.
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After stringing us along all day yesterday and today with your meticulous plans and promises to show us the eclipse, the end result was that you forgot to hit record, and then instead gave us a description of the event as if you were a sideline reporter hired to cover the story,.
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Hanging out at the Legacy Club with @DerekJStevens and his daughter Whitney. Bet Bash is still several days away, and the party is just getting started.
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Just got up to the Legacy Club, and the lovely hostesses were thrilled to see me back.
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To be clear, what George has done is not bet a teaser, but actually bet a parlay in which he bought six points on each game. In George's defense, he probably thought he was gaining an edge because a standard six point teaser these days has juice of -120, and his bet (having
Just did something I rarely do. 6 point Teaser for 1K in cash at Rivers/Kambi. Pitt +4.5 and Atlanta + 9.5. Atlanta will get momentum from MNF win and LAC might have a QB injury. I’ll tweet the betslip in one hour when I get home.
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Watch party @CircaSports sportsbook, open bar, private section. The final event of the @bet_bash weekend. @spanky didn't just run a great event, he hit it out of the park. When Bet Bash 3 is announced tickets will go quickly. Can't wait.
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It's official @grpwins tried to sneak into a Bet Bash event, and he has now been removed from the property by security.
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Last day in Vegas. Signing up for football contests, I ran into my good friends @spanky and @BillKrackman.
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Hey @JeffreyBenson12 is it true that Circa moved the line on Detroit from 6 back up to 6.5 because @grpwins tweeted that the Lions look like an easy winner against just an average Tampa Bay Team.
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Hey @FDSportsbook can you explain how this is not a winner, and please tell us what option someone could have chosen to win the First Touchdown Scored prop or did you just keep all of the money and pay no one last Sunday night.
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Congratulations to @DerekJStevens and @CircaSports for having discovered @JeffreyBenson12. In three visits to Circa's Book this weekend, once early, late and midday, Jeffrey has always been there. His hard work is a true asset and his talents would be wasted at any other book.
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Day 2. I'm at @CircaSports sportsbook hanging out with @Spreadapedia. If you are not at @bet_bash this weekend, you are nowhere.
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After Speed Networking ended @spanky sent me out to conduct some interviews for a second @spankodds model.
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If celebrities like @drewbrees wish to use their name to endorse these bookmaking establishments they should be aware of the way they treat the customers they are encouraging to play there. Anyone that agrees should keep RETWEETING this until Drew Brees responds.
Hey @drewbrees I saw your ad where you talk about betting same game parlays at Pointsbet and you are now an ambassador for this site. I was betting parlays ranging from $100 to $400. I was winning and now can only bet $25 to $50. Do you endorse this? Your good name is associated.
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I find it amusing every year that family members and friends that know I'm a professional gambler call this time of year to ask me who is going to win the Superbowl.
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So many people have reached out to me thanking me for exposing @phillygodfather. They told me they were considering sending him money for football season but now they won't go near him. They told me they realize now that the guy is a crook, fraud and scammer. #phillyfraudfather.
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If I'm doing the math right here, that would equate to an average profit of $500 per year for essentially your entire betting career. Very few sports bettors fall into that category.
@FezzikSports I’m up about 20K betting on sports during the last 40 years. 😂.
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George, for the record, no Sharp refers to a winning ticket's worth by adding in the money risked on the bet. For example, if they bet 5500 to win 5000, they say. "I'm going to cash my 5 dime winner.". They don't say. "I'm going to cash my ticket worth over 10k.". If you want.
@real_fats No what I’m Gonna do is go to the casino and cash my ticket that’s worth 2K from winning my Teaser yesterday.
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I've been with my wife for over 20 years and have been a professional sports gambler since before we met. Tonight she asked me if the Super Bowl was this weekend.
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After over 31 years in Vegas it was my honor to meet @DerekJStevens and @BigBallsAtTheD on my final weekend in this great town. Here we are hanging out at the long bar in the D Casino. Awesome time!!! Awesome people!!!
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I ran into @JD37_ today. He was in the space where I gave out the Nico Collins receiving yards prop. He bet $200 and won around $9500.
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Billy is a true legend, not only is he now a member of the Sports Gambling Hall Of Fame, he is also a member of the WSOP Poker Hall Of Fame. This summer he finished second place in a WSOP tourney in a field with over 8100 players just missing an opportunity to win his 8th
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7-5 after 12 picks is not really that impressive, 700-500 after 1200 picks is impressive. Retweet your updated results after your next 1188 selections.
How good is 7-5 after four weeks. It’s almost impossible to go 700-500 after 1200 picks.
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Here's another shot of me and @Spreadapedia in @CircaSports sportsbook. Notice on the Twitter board on the right is our original picture. Special thanks to the photographer who took this picture for us. You may have heard of him, his Twitter handle is @spanky.
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Today is a sad day as the legendary @dinkinc has passed after a long fight with cancer. He had gone into hospice months ago, ate @WhiteCastle on July 23th and then improved greatly for a while. He got to spend that extra time seeing and being surrounded by his many friends. RIP
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Finally, the last panel member was @TMathSports. She was formerly a television and sideline reporter, and now she hosts her own show, The First Base Podcast.
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Sorry for the lack of updates tonight, but I was having a lot of connection issues. Despite that, the night ended in epic fashion hanging out with @DerekJStevens up at the Legacy Club.
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Hey @DerekJStevens @barstoolsports only took $300 10 minutes before post on Nebraska vs Northwestern. Draft Kings takes max bet less than $200, @BetMGM takes max $50, @FOXBet $50, @WynnBET $200 to name a few here in Michigan. BRING @CircaSports TO MICHIGAN. SAVE OUR STATE.
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Just reconnected with Paris, the CEO of Pinnacle Sports. I've known her since she worked in the betting office of WWTS over 25 years ago.
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At George's request, I was asked to verify his claim of being up approximately 3k. Without doing a full forensic accounting of each category, we have the following based on the posted sheet:. 2500 section one.-8835 section two. 2200 section three (top half). 7000 section three.
I’m estimating as of this moment the value of all my closed and open positions is +$3,000. First of three videos to be shown shortly.
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Texans should win easily today. All five NFL Network analysts picked Cleveland.
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What a joke. @BetMGM thinks responsible gaming is limiting winning players to a maximum bet of $50, and making square players with gambling problems have to self limit themselves after acknowledging they have a problem. #hypocrisy.
Cheers to @MGMResortsIntl and @BetMGM for their support of #RGEM2022!. Check out how you can get involved throughout September 👉
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Bet Rivers counter today:.Me: How much can I bet?.Clerk: Whatever you want. Me: To win 4000. I pay. Supervisor: Max is 500.Me: Why?.SV: Smaller school, only Monday.Me: Line didn't move. SV: You are at your max.Me: Others can still bet it.SV: Yes just not you. #JOKE. More to come.
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Here's another reason you can't put equity value in your win loss figure. Take the clipper future. It will either have a value of -1k or +11k. To count it as a $3500 winner on your figure now is irresponsible, not to mention misleading. Strive to be better, George. It's okay to.
At George's request, I was asked to verify his claim of being up approximately 3k. Without doing a full forensic accounting of each category, we have the following based on the posted sheet:. 2500 section one.-8835 section two. 2200 section three (top half). 7000 section three.
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Well here's the proof that @phillygodfather is controlling all of the Animal Twitter accounts. Here is the password reset info for @phillygodfather, @pokerboysmoves, and @tigersbigbets. They use the same number ending in 98 which matches PGF's phone number. #phillyfraudfather
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George, are you really attacking someone that thought Carolina might not be that bad this year several days after you made a video explaining how you and 11 other elite players in this country have a top secret formula which indicates what a strong play Carolina +4 is today? You.
It’s just amazing how many people are fooled by Adam Chernoff and don’t know he’s a fraud. How’s his prediction that Carolina will be a Wildcard team working out?.
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George, my condolences on a truly bad beat. Most analysts I heard discuss the subject said if Hamlin didn't win, Mayfield was more likely to be voted in over Flacco. In retrospect, as you say, the number doesn't matter it's all about whether you pick the right team, so.
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Meet my favorite bartender in Las Vegas. I've known Valeria since she was my bartender at the Superbowl party, where Seattle got intercepted at the goal line by Butler of the Patriots.
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Three years ago today, my father passed away. I miss talking to him regularly, and I talk to my mother every day. We all miss him very much, but we know he's watching over us. RIP
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George, you do live in a unique world. I bet Adam Chernoff's mother doesn't let him still live at home. She probably makes him drive his own car, too.
Another bad week for Adam on Vsin/Follow the Money. I’m documenting him so the public is not fooled by his “fancy talk”! In my world I respect people who pick winners and show betslips.
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George is smart. He's using the cash as a decoy to distract the would be robber from grabbing the notebook. Nobody is sharper than George.
First time ever I’m going to a Perry’s Steakhouse with 5K in cash in my pocket. I hope their pork chop is great.
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Hey @nfl and @nflcommish, The NFL operates on the notion that the game is played on a level playing field with all teams/players being treated equally. Why is @DraftKings the official betting partner of the NFL when they don't treat all of their players equally? DM me for proof.
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I saved the best for last. Super shout out to Amanda, who works year-round organizing @bet_bash. Without her hard work, the event would never be the great success it has been over the last three years. THANK YOU!!!!.
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Hey @JasonDRobins with the millions you spend on @DraftKings advertising why can't you set reasonable minimum limits like $500 or $1000 for everybody. Spending 1 million less in advertising is more than sufficient of a bankroll to book straight bets at those limits?.
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For those that have been listening to the recent blather of @Phillygodfather here's an interesting tidbit. In the first screenshot PGF is at 217.4K tweets/posts and has 42.7K followers. After two weeks and 1500 tweets/posts later (218.9K), he only has 35.1K followers. In a span
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Registration cocktail party is over. Hanging out again with Christina from one of the proxy services up in the Legacy Club. BETBASH IS UNDERWAY!!!
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I was thinking about my friend @dinkinc, so tonight I decided to re-watch the movie "Lay The Favorite". It brought back some fond memories of my early years in Vegas. Although not really a great gambling movie it did capture Dinky's kind-hearted nature. My thoughts are with you.
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George, correct me if I'm wrong here, but didn't you just explain how you are an elite sports bettor because you are ahead $20,000 for your lifetime. And now you are telling us you are proud of how you lost 25% of your lifetime sports earnings in one 4 hour poker session??. Can.
I was just playing in the best PLO game in the country during the last four hours. The problem is it was a big game and I ran bad. I lost 5K, my worst day ever as a poker player! ( but I’m proud of myself I played great).
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I don't think the US Operators could have perpetrated any bigger fraud on the American gaming consumers than the formation of the @ROGAssociation. They, supposedly are investing 20 million dollars into a joint effort aimed at promoting Responsible Gaming. These same operators are.
We are proud to announce the launch of #ROGA, bringing together seven of the largest online gaming operators in the nation to educate, equip, and empower consumers to enjoy the fun of online gaming in a responsible way. Learn more here:
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If the Office of the Assistant Attorney General is truly interested in eliminating offshore online gambling, then they should regulate the US Operators to treat all customers fairly with established minimum wagering limits. If a US player were able to place a reasonable sized bet.
U.S. Department of Justice correspondence responds to request by state gaming regulators regarding illegal offshore wagering. The Nevada Gaming Control Board appreciates the U.S. DOJ addressing perils of illegal, offshore sportsbooks and online casinos.
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Just ran into my two good friends @DavidPurdum and @andrewssports . David writes for ESPN and is always on top of any rele ant gambling news. Chris is a manager at South Point Sportsbook working alongside legendary SGHOF inductee @JimmyVaccaro. They are all true superstars in
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The bookmaking world could learn a lot from @CircaSports. Shout out to @DerekJStevens for hiring great people like @JeffreyBenson12 and setting the world-wide industy standard for how a sportsbook should operate. #ClassAct.
I’m proud to say that at @CircaSports regardless of if you’re a winning bettor or losing bettor that if ALL you want to do is hit off market numbers at our book that not only will we never limit you, we’ll actually welcome you with open arms and thank you for your business.
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I just signed up for the @CircaSports Millions Contest where I need to submit 5 selections a week. I'm here with @vegashorsepools owner of VHP Proxy Service. I wouldn't trust anyone else to get my picks in accurately and correctly and on time each week. Between the hard work he
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To be clear, these picks are generated by the same top secret formula that you and 11 other elites used to corner the market on Carolina last week.Correct?.
So far three picks this week, there’s more to come. I like to make my picks early in the week because the Line usually moves on my picks. There are other people that know my secret formula.
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@bolding15 @spanky Hey @grpwins, at least if your long-term prop portfolio wins next season, you are now eligible to be Comeback Player of the Year.
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@fish_broke @AllenKessler I enjoy picking games on Allen and his quirky ways, but he is genuinely an honest and caring person and a pretty good sport about the majority of the abuse he gets. This post is deplorable and is in extremely poor taste.
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George, you are definitely sharper than a marble, but most of the sharps were eating at Oscar's in the Plaza, Barry's in Circa, Andiamo Italian Steakhouse in the D or 8 East also in Circa. I can assure you the sharps weren't cornering the market on the ribs at Tony Roma's.
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350+300+300+300= 1250. 1250÷4= 312.5. The actual price you have is +312.5. If you plan to say you were just trying to round off the net price, +310 would be more accurate than +320, which you are planning to use. Since you are all about disclosure these days, I thought you'd.
I tried to bet 1K on Drake Maye at +350 with Rivers/Kambi that he’s the #1 pick in the draft but they would only take $100. Then I bet $100 three different times at +300 before they lowered him to +250. I’ll document this as $400 at +320.
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DraftKings must have known you were going to lose. This explains why they protected your followers by limiting their plays to less than $50 a piece. Here's how @DKSportsbook protected me from firing away on your picks yesterday.
Can’t even make this up lol lost literally every bet 🙄.
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Leaving Las Vegas. Plane about to taxi and take off. Be back for @bet_bash 5 next August. Thanks to @DerekJStevens @CircaLasVegas @CircaSports and @spanky for making this the great event it is each and every year.
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TOMORROW. VEGAS. BETBASH WEEK BEGINS. EXCITEMENT IS IN THE AIR.
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Hey @FDSportsbook other than having one million dollars in your account, what other requirement does one need to meet to be allowed to bet that much on one game. Tennessee at Florida is a big game this week and I'm not allowed to bet more than $500. WHY IS THAT ??????
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George, it is disingenuous to chart every comment @adamchernoff makes on a content show and then try to claim that is his real record when you release 21 top secret formula plays that go 10W-11L and then claim to be 3W-1L on the four that you bet. Your chart of his plays means
Adam Chernoff goes 0-3 for the weekend on picks he made on Vsin on Friday. He is now 24-31 for the year on Follow the Money.
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This place, run by the legendary Gene Mayday, took the biggest bets and refused action to nobody. @CircaSports has the same bookmaking philosophy and is now the modern-day version of this iconic piece of history. @DerekJStevens, is in essence, the second coming of Mr. Mayday and.
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One year ago I joined Twitter after my good friend @spanky had me on his @BeBetterBettors podcast. I've made many friends on here since then, and a few enemies, as I have taken on various causes on behalf of the average bettor. Thank you to all who have supported my efforts.
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The Detroit Lions just started their preseason game with an opening five minute, 79 yard drive culminating with a nine yard touchdown run by DeAndre Swift. It's possible that this could already be the high point of the season.
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Officially checked out of the D Casino and getting on the road. Goodbye Las Vegas. My years here were the best years of my life!.
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Hey @grpwins would you like to participate in a Twitter space with me where we discuss "Betting Teams Vs Numbers"?. DM me and we'll set up a time and schedule the space.
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There's nothing like a nice dinner with Old McDonald, a steak, a loaded baked potato,. 4-cheese Mac and cheese, and for starters, we attacked a charcuterie tray. After dinner, we were escorted off the property by security. Complete night.
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George, maybe you should look at CLV from the following perspective:. Yes, once you've laid 6, all you can do is root for the bet to win whether it moves to 5 or 7, however:. Once you put it in your portfolio, you should, off to the right, put your % chance to win just like you.
Some people’s Lives are so sad. I’ve received a few direct tweets today from people that make fun of me because PIttsburgh is now only favored by 5/5.5 but I bet them at 6.0. After I bet I don’t care where the Line goes, and I don’t care about CLV. I only care what the score is.
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We found Chinese Mike and we're pretty sure we are the first team to complete the Scavenger hunt!!!!!!!!!
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