Per-Anders Edwards
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Yay, finally got my spotify artist page! :)
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@DiscussingFilm
They didn’t care enough to make it, why should I care enough to watch it?
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@MeghanCherry25
@DiscussingFilm
Absolutely yes we equating that. They want to flush their product down the drain is their problem, or are you saying people should be compelled to pay for and watch something that they don’t support?
Gen AI is built on theft. They want to profit from and cut corners with.
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@art_pleb
There’s no AI in this sequence, nor was it inspired by AI. It’s very sad that people can’t tell, not just for the artists who created everything you see including all the content AI regurgitates and tech fanboys who are behind the curve think is original, but because the only
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If they shouldn’t have existed in the first place then why are you so keen to monetize and support monetization of it?
Textbook sociopathy - she does not value other people, only what she can get. See’s no disconnect.
Competency continues to not be a thing at OpenAI.
OpenAI's Mira Murati: "some creative jobs maybe will go away, but maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place"
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@pastapilled
The Moomin books are some of the best. Incredibly thoughtful, witty, not scared of the dark and willing to show it’s many sides, almost entirely about empathy. A brilliant unafraid way to introduce young children to subject and thinking thats often surprisingly complex.
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@JessicaHullman
There’s a saying in music - your old material is new to someone else.
These kids are fans of your work, be flattered that they care. There’s no need to be mean and dim their passion for the sake of your own ego.
Sure you may be in a different place now but they’re not. Take
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@JoschuaKnuppe
It's not art, it's "content". Art is communication and connection, there's nothing to communicate from a heuristic algorithm, nothing to connect with. This is an image for people who think that dogs playing poker is the height of quality.
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@OpenAI
He brings special interests from the NSA and only shows you are corrupt and compromised at the very highest level.
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@NoContextBrits
That’s a little extreme. Milton Keynes, yes, sure totally understandable, but Nottingham has a Gregg’s and everything.
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@DiscussingFilm
Is it just me or do the images side by side make the new one look kinda drab and less filmic?
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@AeornFlippout
Ok counterpoint it's shareholders and marketing strategy. If companies didn't announce and market games before they were ready for launch and didn't push to release to fulfill targets then the problem would be much rarer.
Is that really gamers fault?
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@historyinmemes
The world still behaves the same way. Think about influencers, the rich of today on social media. The people in their wake, in their responses.
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@Rahll
What’s hilarious and sad is that there’s zero progress except as the model itself is upgraded… so they’re not actually practicing anything. Just wasting time. It’s like saying “I spent the last year practicing Assassins Creed”
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@ArielDumas
Given that originally they said that they weren't going to be making money at all, this is fucking hilarious.
I also ran the numbers, the only way AI makes profit at all is in fact secondary profits. The drive for primary profit endangers the economy.
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@supertoastymutt
What has generative AI built or added of value in the art realm?
As far as I can see it's only devaluing all it touches.
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@kda_artist
@gobelins_paris
Damn, this is so sad. Gobelins really did have cachet at one point.
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@tim_cook
Private but OpenAI?
Sorry, but no. You’re just fulfilling that promise you made with the advert crushing all the things of joy.
There’s no reason to trust you now. You partnered with a scraping company. What’s your USP?
At the very least you own Meta an apology.
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@NoContextBrits
There‘s a magic roundabout in Colchester too. This is a good representation. The cars on the outside form a barrier to stop those inside from being able to escape, then move in formation to dissorient their prey. The pedestrians watch on in horror at the carnage, some cheer.
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Apple just said “fuck you” to all creatives, and to the rest of their whole user base.
An incredibly stupid move to placate the most dim-witted of investors. This destroys everything their brand stood for.
Tim should have realized the first rule with investors - if you think
Report: Apple and OpenAI have signed a deal to partner on AI
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@SystemShockGame
There was never a conversation, there was only greed. You feel comfortable with exploitation because it’s face is hidden from you, because it’s so convenient that it must be “good”.
This isn’t exploitation you had no hand in, it’s direct, but insidious in how disarming it is.
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@tsarnick
It hasn’t had a competitive edge for fifteen years, it had a monopoly. That’s a different thing.
Their only means of innovation has been buying technologies and letting them rot.
Their lack of innovation has nothing to do with remote work, in fact they’ve been more aggressive
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@altonbrown
@Adobe
Good.
For the first time in history companies are en-masse forcing a product that noone asked for on their users, all because of sunk cost fallacy - there’s so much investment in it that if they had to admit that their users not only don’t want it but actively reject it, then
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@CNN
So less than half the increase in productivity in the US alone earned by working from home, and it’s a one time loss…
Re-zone them, they were dead areas of cities anyway that could be revitalized to make a greener more pleasant and functional city environment.
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@LaserSinger
They can't, they've polluted their content base too much already.
It's so bad that even they've realized they're destroying the very material they need to train their AI's so are going to add watermarking to AI gen output.
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@DragonsofWales
If it’s not valuable then why scrape it?
He’s just said the quality of the training material doesn’t matter.
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@MeghanCherry25
@DiscussingFilm
Then you’d be wrong.
A client used AI, there’s no evidence it was an artist. That was a gig an artist would have had though.
Supporting this and specifically this aspect of it. Well you’re supporting the elimination of artists. Saying it’s fine.
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@bindureddy
That’s the rest of the world outside of your bubble.
AI enshitifies everything it touches, mostly because the people using it and the people pushing it don’t understand it.
For the rest of the world, they don’t want a talking toaster, they want things that work and improve
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@tim_cook
Is this intentionally a metaphor for the damage to the things of value to humanity wrought by tech bros and gen AI for profit/greed? If so, bravo!
Fits perfectly in the 1984 world
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@JustineBateman
I think I have to throw in some more sobering thinking.
The deal you think you're going to make is not the deal you will in fact get.
Look to the music industry, one of the most powerful copyright protected industries in the world and how it fared with rates from Spotify and
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@ed_solomon
More to the point the big fight here is for the American Dream, not just for writers but for everyone's future to have a job and be able to earn. The fight against AI in the workplace. The writers lose this? We all lose.
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@GRDecter
Called it last year. Don’t worry, it’ll drop down to nothing as soon as people realize that anyone can do exactly the same with also next to zero effort. Just a basic domain, ad revenue and a simple script. This is the meaningless future of online content.
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It’s horrifying to see, this is why I continue to fight for artists, for the human, even when I myself spend most of my own time down the R&D rabbit hole these days, and yes that includes AI.
To me technology has to be for people, to take them into account. If it isn’t or
Tim Burton says he saw an article that had AI make Burton versions of popular Disney characters that made him feel like his soul was taken.
“It takes something from your soul or pysche; that is disturbing, especially if it has to do with you.”
(Source: )
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@adefgames
We’re headed right into a digital dark age, AI for profit preys on the gullible. They actually think it somehow magically makes things smarter, because it has “intelligence” in the title.
They trust it. That should terrify everyone.
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@RaggedTP
They know themselves now, will have to live the rest of their lives knowing in a trivial low pressure moment this is who and what they were.
Bullies pick on the weak, it takes considerably more character to stand up to the powerful.
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@venturetwins
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@rileybrown_ai
No-one there is an artist. These are just “the world’s best self promoters in the grift of AI generated imagery”.
The images are generated by an algorithm and its “quality” is down to the training, the material that’s been stolen from actual artists. They do next to bupkis.
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@mansa_is_musa
@katriaraden
@SpencerKSchiff
@TheGlazeProject
You have no moral leg to stand on, you seek to profit off of theft. Your only interests are narcissistic, greed, mendacity. You will sell out all of humanity, opportunity of everyone else for all time, purely for a small hint of a free lunch and shilling for billionaires.
There
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@jeffsimpsonkh
It’s incredibly disheartening for every artist out there. Disney doing this in the heart of the WGA strike is a slap in the face of everyone striking, purely there to tell their workers that they’re worthless and replaceable.
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@myrrlyn
Because the fight scenes and their content usually adds to the narrative, while the sex scenes rarely drive events forward.
Remove the fight scenes and characters just suddenly vanish, look different, motives change without reason. It’s much harder to imply. Sex meanwhile is
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@AeornFlippout
Sure it would, games often come in from the left field and do very well. However that's also not what I said.
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@Vesperis_Art
If it’s easy at first then it’ll be much harder for you to progress beyond that initial success than if it’s struggle to start with.
It might sound counterintuitive but growth mindset is all about embracing failure. Success on its own doesn’t tell you why, so obscures the path.
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@mountain_ghosts
It gets better.
- Their mortal enemies are effective accelerationists, a belief system that fully borrows all responsibility for whatever you want to do from the future!
- Both are communism/neo feudalism, where serfs operate in collectives controlled by a central entity.
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@0xgaut
That’s really not. Look at what it sees. The vehicle doesn’t see that it’s a line, just that a car is stopped and turning left in front of it not from a turning lane which isn’t abnormal if there’s no central lane in america, and the right lane is clear, so it moves right.
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@Grimezsz
So let me get this straight. You want to "democratize" something that is already "democratized". Want to eliminate copyright but expect a 50% cut...
Any other ways you want to pull up the ladder?
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@matthiasellis
Absolutely it's time for them to start reading books for toddlers!
Though seriously, what is a book written for adults? I mean Stephen King is aimed IMO firmly at teens but then so is J.K. Rowling.
Reginald Hill, Crafton, Gladwell, Tolkien, Sharpe, Hiaasan, Pratchett, Charriere
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@adamconover
Very weak on the AI stance. The WGA left open the option for them to simply solely use AI, as if they imagined it would be impossible for the studios to do so. They will be able to within the next couple of years if not much sooner.
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@bayraitt
Simply not how AI works though Bay. AI is a recall device, its accuracy is determined by its fitting to the material, its creativity by the range available. It's not an interpretation, it's a probability matrix. Closer to a database or lossy encryption system with a fuzzy logic
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You cannot copyright theft. You cannot hold rights to theft. You cannot own that which is stolen.
The AI companies are founded on crime.
And everyone is cool with that?
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@SpencerKSchiff
@katriaraden
@TheGlazeProject
No, you are the despicable person, you only have one motive. Greed.
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As I have been saying now for the past few years - AI for profit is a disaster for the economy. Killing jobs and devaluing product.
You think this will only affect freelancers? Nope. This will hit every sector.
Intangible goods & services accounts for 80% of the GDP. It will be
NEW: Generative AI is already taking white collar jobs
An ingenious study by
@xianghui90
@oren_reshef
@Zhou_Yu_AI
looked at what happened on a huge online freelancing platform after ChatGPT launched last year.
The answer? Freelancers got fewer jobs, and earned much less
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No-one should be forced to compete with themselves.
This is the essence and foundation of copyright law. The whole purpose.
ML for profit is allowed to compete with people, requiring unique human data from said people. i.e. it's forcing them to compete with themselves.
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@arstechnica
Well that’s the end of the Apple brand.
Every single thing it represents is the exact opposite of OpenAI.
Privacy, security, creatives and content creators.
Now they’re just another box maker. Well done Tim for sending Apple back to pre-Jobs return.
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The deep cost of AI for greed.
These companies and those associated, using their technology will have to work hard to improve their environmental track record unless they want to lose their green image.
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@ramenretro1
Brad Bird’s golden era, delivering Pixar’s best two films “The Incredibles” and “Ratatouille”. Full of heart, whimsy, cleverness and the sophistication to just make a film first that just happened to use the medium of animation rather than the other way around.
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@missmayn
Yup, the AI dialog is the most complete distillation of everything wrong in the world I've yet seen.
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@SeamusBlackley
Because there isn't one.
It's inherent to the algorithm currently in use. You literally fill it with data that predicts likely next, which means if you give it enough stuff it can go anywhere. Eventually it'll even paradoxically devolve to pure noise in certain regions. Then on
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@GuitarWorld
I think their first port of call should be picking and training staff to be knowledgable. Occasionally you get lucky but too often it's hard to even get someone to sell you something let alone answer a question, that's not good for a business that, you know, sells things.
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@NBCNews
Finally, yes. So glad this has made it to the news. This is such a critical issue not just for artists, but for everyone.
Everyone is going to be competing with AI sooner or later, it doesn’t have to be good, only “good enough” and if AI is trained on your data then that’s
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@sama
1. You have no idea what the effect of the movie may be on young minds yet
2. Did you read the book? It's a cautionary tale, its title is allusion to the greek tragedy which is also, a cautionary tale
3. It's about a guy and the team he lead who lost themselves in race that
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@thebookseller
Why would anyone bother to read something no-one bothered to write?
I can go to ChatGPT myself.
ChatGPT is the creator, although really all the authors it’s been trained on are the creators, so it’s old generations of creators being pastiched by an algorithm.
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@bcmerchant
There's most definitely a need to update the education system and how it determines student progress.
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@kingsevil0000
It's so frustrating, and greed is what drives it all. Such an easy fix in this case, trouble is greedy people want to create complex solutions that are destined to fail but cement monopolies, not realizing they're gonna screw themselves over in the process (because they're not
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@sama
a sad way for the Apple brand to end, so much technical deficit they have to resort to partnering with a trashy scraping company currently at war Apple’s core userbase to deliver an update to a chatbot
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@business
No-one should be doing it. It's bad for the environment (WFH generates 54% less CO2 emissions), bad for women in latest studies, bad for productivity (most studies show a 20% increase in productivity in WFH).
Offices are only useful for a very small number of people. A luxury.
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@IxnayMatryoshka
Just felt the wrong direction. The others are all rooted in the past and humanity, which fits well with an archaeologist. Aliens, at least the way it was handled just felt tenuous.
Like the writers are running out of ideas and next they’ll give him super powers and Moon Maid.
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@JoelCHoltzman
None of what he says holds up under scrutiny. Anyone could always make art, AI doesn’t change this. Anyone who can write a prompt could already express themselves. AI inherently homogenizes styles and even content, AI doesn’t extend boundaries more than pencil and paper, nothing
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@JeremyBearimy26
@MeghanCherry25
@DiscussingFilm
Well two things to that argument:
- How many of those are getting residuals?
- Are there other options?
They’ve already been paid and there are plenty of productions not doing this. You don’t support artists by supporting their removal.
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@WillManidis
Because to most people their risks are much larger than you think and the rewards are far less. They have no safety nets, no mummy and daddy to bail them out, no second chances, they are living on the edge already. They’re uninvested because they have little opportunity.
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@maxwelltani
To all intents and purposes that sounds like they’re simply shuttering and taking the brand to stick on an already outdated model of clickbait marketing. Eliminating news and content.
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It takes a long time for people to catch on - AI for profit is not your friend. AI companies do not have your interests at heart, the relationship is only about your worth to them.
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@tobyordoxford
It's doing this in the name of Microsoft. Why is no-one else bothered by the complete inaction of MS?
If that was output from your own website, you'd expect a visit from law enforcement.
A responsible company would immediately take the service offline and issue an apology.
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@chheplo
They will not live on, you will only be making a constant reminder of that for yourself by building such a shrine.
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@gaganbiyani
@mayowaoshin
Unlikely.
AI doesn't give you precise answers it gives you predictable ones. The larger the model and the mode data then the more precise it gets, but there is a noise floor to the data.
A database is always precise.
SQL remains a useful bridge language for querying databases.
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@ambattii
It's non-competitive, you can't score it.
So as they cannot place it on an ordered list, are too simple to mentally cope with the ambiguity - they simply don't value it at all or only at the cost of its reproduction.
It's ubiquity is it's downfall, familiarity breeds contempt.
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More like factory line job, and also those techbros are all going “Why aren’t people optimistic anymore?”
Because of shit like this brah, because of shit like this.
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@AeornFlippout
I think the hype machine causes a lot of problems, not that bills don't have to be paid. Thing is while gamers are responsible for their own toxicity, they're not responsible for this.
Apology letters are just business practice. Your brand is the thing that's at stake.
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@8chabard
It's just a bad pattern fill. I mean if you think it's transgressive to "complete" an intentionally incomplete painting that said something about death and AIDS to make wallpaper I guess, maybe some statement on AI continuing without meaning? AI doesn't feel critical.
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@DiscussingFilm
Yeah I don't see how this is conscionable, it's a surprise term and that clause is scoped to the specific agreement and transaction made for that service, not to anything else.
Previous cases have not gone well for companies trying this trick
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