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greetings friends arguing about politics and feelings on the internet including myself welcome to my twitter i hope you enjoy the stay
hey america fucking blows but at least terms like dusty pink hole and pink boy pussy and winking asshole exist
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@fireh9lly
i wonder if this bothers elon since based on these numbers and how online he is he has definitely seen this tweet
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the biggest problem is fandom used to be a niche hobby overall. fanfic and fanart are still niche hobbies, but fandom itself is now mainstream. the amount of "normal" ppl coming in and demanding to be entertained to their exact specifications is much higher than it has ever been.
i feel like so many issues w fandom these days comes with people seeing it less as a community to share ur love of smth and more as a marketplace to consume content
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would you guys rather this shit be untagged so you encounter it randomly in stories without any way to avoid it because that's what life was like before AO3
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full offense but ppl who complain about the term "fandom police" bc they don't like being called police in the current climate should maybe evaluate why they think it's ok to enable a culture where vulnerable ppl get doxxed and undocumented ppl have to worry about whether some
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please stop pretending like cartoons are a substitute for public education. kids should not be learning only from youtube or streaming services. random videos online are not parents or teachers.
"fiction doesn't affect reality"
people think bears eat honey, that rabbits like carrots, that cats can drink milk and rats love cheese
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how the fuck did we get to a place where young "progressives" want the equivalent of digital bedroom laws. it's none of their damn business to know about ppls' nsfw accts no matter how objectionable or offensive their cartoon nsfw is. cartoons aren't victims of a goddamn crime.
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lrts im not gonna lie i looked at 18+ material when i was underage but i also..........knew i wasn't supposed to be there. i didn't demand to make it my space or whine about what adult content should be allowed bc i didn't feel like that should cater to me.
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or you could just delete it. it's a pretty bad post containing nothing but nonsensical arguments that boil down to "adults have to be responsible for what i see online and also if something you do makes me feel bad then it's YOUR fault!! i'm not responsible for how i handle it!!"
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to be honest i still generally agree that ao3 should host most things but i really was not aware that when ppl were talking about racist fanworks that most of them were talking about shit like george floyd death parodies or actual hate speech just barely veiled as fanfiction.
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i am unironically getting brain damage from the amount of people who are like "only white ppl use 'fujoshi'!!!!!"
are you searching the word "fujoshi" expecting to see japanese ppl using it? have you considered.....the English alphabet isn't the only one that exists???
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my recent favourite has been seeing ppl append "30 y/o white women" to their disparaging statements about ao3 as if caring about a valuable fandom space is only a white woman's domain
also i can't wait until they get older and start making it "40 y/o women"
It's weird how people can just say the most egregiously misogynist shit ever on here but as long as they attach the words "30 year old" to "woman" people will be like "yeah wow haha that's so funny and true"
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love all the young lgbt+ ppl in here losing their shit about the boyfriends comic again and behaving like the same ppl who want to outlaw all lgbt+ content
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honestly it's just tiring seeing idiot kids like this who lie about their age and pretend like they can have a discussion with ppl and then they just straight up cannot.
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@hoodnymph
an alarming amount of ppl don't see you're pretending 24 year olds are the same as 16 year olds bc you want to dunk on millennials
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love how all the young lgbt+ ppl have ripped their masks off and have come out as actually perpetuating harmful homophobic stereotypes and trying to smear bryan fuller as a pedophile bc he's wearing a shirt and drinking from a mug they don't like
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sebastian murdering ciel by eating his soul would be ok but heaven forbid there be age gap
can we talk about how ciel isn't even old enough to enter contracts
do we take sebastian to court
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i enjoy the children in the qrts crying about how adults can't project onto younger characters and explore a lost childhood through fiction and saying "UM NO EXCUSE FOR NOT TRANSITIONING TO ADULT RELATIONSHIPS"
please transition to obtaining real problems
Maybe because some of us didn't get to experience or explore our sexuality when we were teenagers, so we want to explore that now through fictional characters because it's a safe and harmless way to do so😃
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"the internet groomed me because a bunch of ppl were talking about problematic ships as if they were ok so i thought they were ok irl" sounds an awful lot like you don't know what grooming is
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there are ppl in their 20s who are treating this like it's real. it's one thing if kids are falling for it (again) but lmao
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"being sexually attracted to gay ppl isn’t a sexuality it’s a fetishization" sure is a thing i just read in defense of a genshin impact VA talking shit about a genre he profits from.
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really wild how we've entered an age where people unironically write "writing child porn" and mean shit like JJBA characters
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all this op and the ppl liking the tweet are proving is they're only aware of a very specific type of bl
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this is good info and i want to also emphasise as the list does that grooming is not always sexual. online, some ppl try to surround themselves with kids bc they enjoy exhibiting a form of control by trying to shape kids' beliefs in ways they find morally acceptable.
I finally made a PSA about the warning signs for grooming that have become normalized when it comes to things like fandom & artist spaces online (As most webpages aren't equipped to tackle this very specific issue).
Original on the left, relevant parallels observed on the right.
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yyyeah, this is fucked. ppl who rely on DNIs for who you feel safe being around, please remember that majority of the ppl preying on you are going to be in your spaces, lying about what they are to get access to you and make you feel safe. that's part of the grooming process.
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i agree but the comments randomly criticising the "at risk of seeing a 14 year old's opinion" image seem to pretend that's only posted at kids who are harmlessly stupid when in my experience it's mostly posted at kids trying to start harassment campaigns against 18+ accounts
The death of kid-exclusive online spaces has meant children arent allowed to be stupid in peace anymore. People engage with someone that's obviously new to having opinions as if they should remotely be taken seriously
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hey just a periodic reminder if you hate women writing mlm so much you can find Authentic Gay Male Writings at and i promise you you won't like most of them
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why in the fuck are adults calling minors pedophiles over bnha characters
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can you fuckers not do this when twitter's child safety department has been gutted and the 1 person staffing it can in no way deal with sifting through all your false reports in a timely fashion or do you just really want actual exploited kids to go neglected bc eww loli :',','(
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cannot believe there are ppl being like "what's problematic about devilman crybaby???"
did you miss the graphic sex including teenagers
i thought you guys pretended to care about that
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@g0DySsEy
@heartsalty
yes, it's called public education and parents teaching children not to believe everything they read. you don't fucking outsource that responsibility to ppl creating works of fiction.
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are the children ok
why are they projecting pedophilia onto this ship dynamic when it is two consenting adults 97% of the time it's depicted.
My current favorite ship dynamic
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honestly i think all the ppl who cry about gross nsfw content and tell ppl to "find a better coping mechanism" unironically need to find a better coping mechanism that isn't "yelling at real human beings over imaginary people"
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wish they hadn't blocked me so i could tweet at
@tvskyle
and
@tonygoldmark
who are crying AND lying about how kyle got access to ang's accounts. even if the account is public, if ang's name isn't on it and there are no links to ang's public identity, you fucking doxxed them.
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meanwhile ive talked to perfectly decent 13 year olds on this app who were capable of thought and reason instead of incoherent melodramatics.
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seeing some qrts shitting on this instead of finding it funny so like
this is kind of how the normalisation of lgbt+ material starts. SO MANY OF THESE DUDES KEPT READING. they aren't gonna become woke overnight. it takes time and this is a starting point.
op went on douyin and found some comments left by straight males regarding the sv donghua so i translated some bc .. they are funny ((also many mentions of mdzs bc everyone knows wooo
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honestly i think im done seriously entertaining anyone's discourse on fiction and no longer considering their opinions valid bc there is nothing valid about the current trend of crying about women liking the wrong fiction and how it will prime them to accept abuse
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just want to note this specific person stopped identifying as an anti before the jp artists decided to block ppl with "proship dni" in their profiles. the wording in this tweet is awkward for outsiders bc we don't know her.
glad i took proship dni ojut of my stuff Bc i know damn well all the jp gant fanartists wouldve blocked me by now. please dont. Im so hungry
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@NA0Ml_
nah ppl like you make it easier for ppl like kyle to get away with their crimes bc you call ppl who only draw gross cartoons "pedophiles" while you support actual pedophiles using "THE PORN ART MY FORMER EMPLOYEE DREW TRAUMATISED ME" to attack ppl who draw cartoon nsfw
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a lot of what keeps me from f/f is f/f pairings have the shittiest super fans and it's an immediate put-off bc i don't want to like anything created by them and i don't want them engaging with my content. i'm sure there are pockets of good fans but lol im not going out of my way.
Sorry for ranting but this thing really annoys me a lot. People will always pick men over women, for, they are men, and men are better.
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never had anything against
@VivziePop
or hazbin hotel but if she cut ties with a disabled lgbt+ employee over the false pedophilia allegations coming from holly meadow disch and jay goldstein when she literally created the same type of cartoon content that employee did then lmao
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this started as an actual conversation about actual irl sex negativity and homophobia and this person suddenly made it about imaginary cartoon people into a discussion about actual tangible harm to real human beings bc "proship in bio"
how fucked up are you exactly
@theSkinShrimp
yes i am “anti sexual freedom” for being disgusted by people who get off to pedophilic and incestuous ships
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genuinely glad a japanese artist addressed this and it's getting a lot of traction--but it's awful the artist had to do it in the first place. i hope it will be seen by a lot of other japanese artists since they've been so mistreated by western fans.
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can't get over all these comments about freud as if....the ppl making them.....aren't actually the ones proving freud right.....bc they're seeing pedophilia solely bc of their personal obsession with seeing pedophilia
My current favorite ship dynamic
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lol you literally caused two children to go viral and now a bunch of ppl think some 14 year old kid is a pedophile and he's probably going to be harassed over this irl
have literally any shame you piece of shit.
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cannot believe i just saw the take "disney is why people hate wolves"
no
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old yeller is not the next "jaws effect"
do not do this.
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this is the type of convo ive had with a lot of antis. if they DM you to talk rather than insult, they're almost always going to be open to hearing you out. many are traumatised ppl whose friend groups are terrifying so they literally cant afford to be seen considering your ideas
Today, I talked one-on-one with an anti, and it went much better than I ever could have hoped. I have asked if I could share out conversation, and they said yes, so, in this thread, I’d like to share my experience with this anti. (Proof of permission pictured)
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there are valid complaints wrt what AO3 allows, but i also get why ao3's position is "we will accept pretty much anything that isn't actually against the law". the site isn't perfect, but ppl crying about shit they can filter out is the dumbest thing
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like i need to emphasise i really don't hate teens. i don't want them banned from social media platforms but good lord
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gay people are, in fact, allowed to have sexual preferences and it is really weird to me that ppl are trying to pretend this is a "feminisation" and "fetishisation" thing.
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@cannibolas
why are you interacting with a known proship account when you're a proship dni account
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i always thought of the conversations i saw like wrt captive prince fanfiction where ppl got accused of condoning slavery or ppl who have specific kinks but tag/warn for them.
it feels like a given that actual racism targeted directly at readers should not actually go there.
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massively fucked up that this person attempted suicide and the first thing i see the first namedropped ex-friend do is cry about why they're right to harass proship ppl and how they'll never regret it like lmao
did any of you fuckers actually care about your former friend??
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genuinely amazed that genshin VA fujoshi explosion is still going strong. i also think it's impressive he's got all the anti-porn sentiments from his defenders while he also has ppl who post nsfw of themselves defending him
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i get the idea behind this but this completely misses the point of fanfiction. so much fanfiction is written by amateurs and ppl with no experience with writing. it needs to have the freedom to be pure shit. you cannot treat most fanfiction writers like published authors.
"If fanfiction is supposed to be transformative, then let’s transform it."
@hanpersands
on the prevalence of certain cishet norms and tropes in queer fanfic:
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things that were the domain of weirdos got opened to the general public and now we have the lowest common denominator of opinions circling on the regular from ppl who don't have the emotional intellect to know that a fictional concept isn't harmful just bc it disgusts them.
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the comments on this are exactly why literally everyone should be suspect of anyone pushing the "there's too much sex in media" agenda since this entire thing is just ppl shaming women for reading romance novels.
one thing I didn't understand until recently is a large number of women who are into "books" and "reading" are just into porn. they are talking about porn
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glad i looked at the qrts on that post bc the heartstopper author is a bigger piece of shit than i thought
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"it's so heartless to tell ppl their relentless harassment might actually be the trigger that caused someone to take their lives" sure is a take
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i mean they probably should be bc there's no way any of this is actually healthy for them but it's just not reasonable to cut them off.
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im 2% sorry but im not over an anti-nazi work about a nazi traitor being labeled "sympathetic to nazis" by a prominent fandom scholar claiming it was in fandom space when it was original work of fiction that no one would have been stumbled on searching for fanfiction.
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this person is comedy
"my nasty gore fucking fetish is soooooooo much more moral than an incest ship!!!!"
i don't know op. what's wrong with you that you want to see blood and insides???? seems like you might be a budding serial killer.
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ok though HERE'S an example of real normalisation of child abuse: this true crime show just focused on an actual teacher and student relationship and talked about how the wife blamed the child for the relationship rather than her husband and the show called her his "lover"
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i have special contempt for ppl who think depiction = endorsement going anywhere near educational roles. you are not the sole arbiter of what ppl are allowed to depict in their books or why it's being depicted. you don't get to decide what's ok. the fucking reader gets to.
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the greatest part of antis spamming
#SupportExAntis
is it generates more attn to the tag than it otherwise would have gotten, thus spreading the message to friends who might not know about ppl who felt exactly the way they do now and are happier without friends who are antis
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this is actually a really good way of looking at twitter in general. once you pass a certain threshold of attention, it stops being about you and ppl just project onto the tweet--which isn't necessarily a good or bad thing. it's just a consequence of how the app works.
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this is exactly why ppl need to stop forcing their showrunners and talent to promote the show on social media. this person is 23 and thinks they're entitled to ppls' personal details just bc they worked on a kids' show
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i just realised
the minors they are claiming mira drew
are the fucking jjba characters that look 30
In regard to removing an artist from the zine on account of a history containing NSFW art depicting fictional minors:
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this person has other tweets wherein they think the actor who played jeffrey dahmer in that netflix series needs to be held accountable for his portrayal of jeffrey dahmer.
I get annoyed when people say things like “it’s just acting” when it comes to actors performing in ways they wouldn’t outside of tv or movies because so the actors not bear any responsibility for their behavior or the images they portray at all?
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can all promising zines that everyone is looking forward to crowdsource for a fucking PR person who actually knows how to handle situations rather than casually deciding to label ppl antisemitic over fanfiction they wrote that had an explicitly anti-nazi theme.
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honestly starting to get concerned about what happens when credit card companies drive all of this content underground bc it's too unpalatable for normal consumers
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@FizWinkle
@ilselizart
you are acting like all babysitters are legal guardians rather than a lot of them being someone who made sure the neighbor's kids didn't break the windows before the parents came home from work
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also mature ones handle it just fine you can't blame the decent kids for all the shitty kids.
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asshole is going to try do get them deported from trump's america over cartoons.
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normal ppl getting on the internet was a mistake. 215k likes and counting on this bland ass take
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just learned this guy is a minor and the ppl who exposed him are using that as an excuse for why it was ok to expose his nsfw account.
no, you pieces of shit. that makes it worse. do not spread awareness of a minor's nsfw account.
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@shoebaluu
lmao you are in so much denial that the thing you like actually sexualises gore that you can't even spot sexualised gore in media.
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ppl like
@minyardists
who literally contact ppls' parents to tell them about the icky fanfiction their adult children post online are fucked up.
@twittersupport
@twitter
this person was actively encouraging doxxing but locked their acct likely to escape being reported for it
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it would be really cool if ppl who love to police what other ppl enjoy in fiction acknowledged the tangible and fucked up effect them encouraging dehumanisation and demonisation over fan pairings between characters who dont exist has on ppl. there are a lot of things fandom needs
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@TVsKyle
i hope the
@animationguild
takes seriously the fact people like
@TVsKyle
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@truebuggy
doxxed ang over cartoon porn no worse than what disney animators have created and
@tvskyle
shared that doxx which ruined ang's reputation. way to stick it to the survivors of child rape, guys!
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@TVsKyle
doxxed someone he had a position of power over over their own CSA trauma art and is pretending like the "trauma" of seeing that art justified sharing ang's trauma in a chatroom with his industry friends.
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lol everyone commenting negatively on this op. this is what /actual child grooming/ looks like. i thought you pieces of shit were all about "loli can be used to groom kids!!!" and in an instance where that ACTUALLY HAPPENED, you're blaming the victims???? fuck all of you.
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@wkndergirl
please tell me why you're watching hentai and telling people to commit suicide when you're a child who tweets about failing at school
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do you even know how much fucked up shit i wrote down as a teenager
NO
BC I DIDN'T PUT IT ONLINE EVEN IF I HAD ACCESS TO THE INTERNET BC SOCIAL MEDIA DIDN'T EXIST and fortunately i had a mother who respected my privacy, which can be a tall order in some households.
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@digitallylina
@arakkisuperstar
you literally do not get to gaslight ppl about whether or not they're taking back control. you do not know better than those individuals and the fact you think you do means you aren't even worth taking seriously.
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sounds like somebody's in denial that their authoritarian view of fiction actual hurts real ppl more than the """proship""" (aka "not media illiterate") view of fiction does
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if ppl want to make this particular issue about racism then they may also want to take into account the numerous ppl who aren't white who get called slurs by fan cops or written off as white bc i guess they think only white women like japanese bl
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