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PLEASE EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PALESTINE, CONGO AND SUDAN. NEVER STOP TALKING ABOUT THEM.
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“APE” by
#TAEYONG
. an important thread explaining why i think this song is korean hip-hop excellence.
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how bad was this break up (??) for jaehyun for him to say that he gets triggered every valentines?! on his birthday all he can think of is them😭😭 like damn this person really did a number on him
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LIKE FUCK THEM FANSIGNS. LETS GET THE NCT SHOW BACK AND RUNNING. AND WISH ON AWSAZ
need sm to stop the fansigns and put wish in a villa for an nct life season. enough is enough
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@gothpjms
people who think like this are definetly 12, cause how is fan service and engagement exclusively a hybe thing💀
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the only time i can 1000% get behind afrobeats/amapiano/dancehall in k-pop is when she does it
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are you serious? “can you spell prada”
do u guys ever just randomly quote jaehyun's unintentionally funny one-liners my fave ones to say are WAIT A MINUTEEE or d f a c
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what blows me about this riize ot6 & seunghan situation is that people don’t realise that this could have been any other member. you can’t convince me that he was the only one who dated and had a normal life before idol life. they’re all human beings, at least 3/7 of them dated -
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STOPAHJXDKSGDD THEIR LITTLE SKIPS AS THEY MAKE THEIR WAY ACROSS THE STAGE TO POSE WITH THEIR HYUNGS?!?! THEY’RE SO CUTEEEE
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we need to give ryo the credit he deserves cause this kid is a DANCER
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sion robbed us of a baeksang worthy performance
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me rewatching the same 5 shundai scenes over and over again, while pretending that i’m not going insane waiting for tuesday
#theboyfriend
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C1. TAEYONG referencing Wu-Tang Clan’s “C.R.E.A.M.” (1994) shows he knows his history. Wu-Tang Clan is one of the most influential hip-hop acts of the 90s, they still influence many artists today. plus referencing is a big part of hip-hop, making clever & on-theme refs is a skill
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@ohnonct16
no because now that i think about it why haven’t they been on yet? like ten is right there…
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*but first let’s appreciate the instrumental. TAEYONG’s producer friend SQUAR makes great use of 808s, a modern hip-hop staple, throughout the song. the bass and distortion being standout elements. it is a percussion filled beat that is minimal yet impactful.
cr: janettes on YT
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another reason why she was the best choice as their producer. she debuted when she was 13, she knows what it’s like to be a minor in the industry. the wishies are in good hands
💬 NCT Wish Sion revealed that BoA highlighted and advised that NCT Wish do an age-appropriate concept:
“She advised that she wanted us to do an age-appropriate concept […] As we grow older and mature, we plan to naturally sing songs that will fit our age.”
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@ltyonng
C2. his pen game!! i’m sure the lyrics hit even harder when you understand korean cause it’s a language with interesting phonics, rhyme schemes, puns etc. but the english translations still hit, which i think is a testament to TAEYONG’s writing skills. here are my fav lyrics
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@ltyonng
F1. flow switches!!! TAEYONG has always had a great sense of rhythm, he rides beats so effortlessly, and all this song did was solidify that!!! i don’t even have much to say, so i’m just going to let the music speak for itself…
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i love it when big nctzen youtubers that are still active are ot26. like neo chaotic, you’re my star and nct_sense being ot26 means the world to me.
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neo centre should be serious and give us the recording behind this time around, cause i NEED to hear jahee’s raw vocals doing those runs. plus i want to hear saku and riku recording their raps. i just need to hear all their raw vocals
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unitzens can argue all day about who is the favourite unit (which is nonsense cause sm treats all of their artists like shit), but one thing they can/should never deny is that wayv is the unit that is overtly mismanaged and subjugated to severe xenophobia
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sion is always under the member’s weverse posts. like every single time, without fail. he is a dad, the wishies are his biological children
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also imo this is a k-hip-hop song not just a k-pop rap. and that’s cause this song actually incorporates essences of what actual (k)hip-hop artists do. so to me TAEYONG goes above the usual “k-pop rap” bare minimum as a korean artist participating in a black american genre
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@ltyonng
anyways TAEYONG is a great rapper. he understands the basics of rap. he understands himself as an artist. he has charisma. he has his own flow. he writes his own lyrics. he composes his own music. and to me APE is a song that shows people what he brings to the table (aka k-hh)
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@onri2yu
like they should of done this in the beginning if anything😒 now they want to do this 8 years down the line? nct wish are the new unit and people are always denying them,this might make things worse. how can we get separate lightsticks before an ot26 nct u comeback?
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TAEYONG executes all 3 major components of rap - content (C), flow (F) and delivery (D) - flawlessly and in his own unique way. and here’s how:
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just to preface this by stating that i’m not a music critic nor do i have a degree in music theory. all my knowledge about music is self-taught and from my own research. therefore this is just for fun and my own personal opinion onwhy this song HITS, not a professional breakdown
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@ltyonng
F2. this whole breakdown/outro!! the piano and snares coming in and creating this floaty and muted feel. the contrast from the hard hitting bass to this section really highlights the lyrics, as it actually feels like you’re spacing out. also the flow switch is so seemless here
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claiming that NCT can’t do rnb is utterly ridiculous and so untrue, like mfs look so dumb it hurts. 127’s discography alone debunks that dumbass statement. and when wayv and dream tap into rnb they clear too. plus wish are already upholding that standard. so leave them alone…
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so what are the wish antis going to say now. their debut song is amazing and so catchy. good album sales. first win 20 days after debut. their encore vocals ate. and the nct hyungs love them, there has been nothing but love and support for them. wish karma is real
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and after seeing this some briize will still tune into the cb and ot6 content. y’all are some spineless losers and hani deserves better
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@ltyonng
D3. here is another example of him changing the way he pronounces and delivers his words to emphasize them! like the way he pronounces “boy”, it just adds so much texture to the song (also the whisper rapping😩😩)
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ot26zens have been fed well this year🙂↕️ and it’s only july
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@ltyonng
D2. i want y’all to focus on the way he pronounces “whipper” and how its dragged over the beat, it feels long & heavy. it’s like when you’re whipping cream and your wrists begin to feel heavier and slower as the cream gets thicker. i.e more accailm/money = life getting heavy
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honestly i PRAY some of you ungrateful “ot20 nctzens” never get into wish. it’s good that y’all don’t care about them, cause they deserve better than you miserable and bitter ppl who don’t know how to accept reality and move on. i hope y’all rot in your funky ass low vibrations
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@shozees_
which is why i can never watch that type of content, cause the sheer audacity and hypocrisy is insane
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@laraautism
it’s sad how you’re not lying and they’re always coming for her hair too. telling her to fix her wigs or not to wear her natural hair and shit, like what happened to supporting/protecting black women?
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@xiaokunirl
wayv literally could have been the biggest nct unit, if they had made use of the hype around love talk and not put them on hiatus for so long. this company loves to fumble the bag cause wayv is too talented for them to be saying this shit
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@ltyonng
D1. if i was told to pick only one thing about TAEYONG’s rap style that makes it my favourite, i’d with no doubt choose his cadence! tho he has made use of more eccentric cadences in songs like MAD DOG or AROUND etc., his clear yet TAEYONG-y delivery in APE is also top tier
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@ltyonng
C3. the meaning of APE really takes this song to another level. conveying a message, breaking the status quo and talking your shit are key elements that imo make hip-hop and rap music so special. and TAEYONG does all of this and more on APE, here are some of my annotations:
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nctzens on tiktok piss me tf off, talking about “i’m still stuck in 2020”, “ot23 only”, “2024 is the worst” under a post about ot26. like atp just seek therapy cause living in such a state of delusion isn’t healthy
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@ltyonng
*i’m not TAEYONG so this isn’t an accurate representation of what the lyrics mean but this is just how i interpret them!!! i could be wrong so don’t take this literally!!!
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as if these boys didn’t go on a whole pre-debut tour to grow their own fanbase because nctzens decided to boycott lastart and many still refuse to support them. people need to stop speaking on things they know nothing about😒
i saw a twt mentioning nct nepotism… nepotism?? seriously??you don’t know the hard work these kids put in to prove themselves when half the fandom was wishing ill upon them and wanting them gone. there’s no nepotism here. everything they’ve achieved is built from scratch.
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nct wish really got blessed with the most unique and devastatingly adorable maknae. like fujinaga sakuya is in a league of his own
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category is idols with a short training period and top tier vocals
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@ltyonng
refer to this tweet for a general idea of what APE is about
Run Away: a rock genre song that has lyrics that express honest feelings toward the person who left
APE: a hip-hop song that shows taeyong's confidence as an artist without hesitation, while also sincerely expressing the worries and realizations deep inside him
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before. if not dating they’ve probably had flings, crushes or whatever the fuck. cause they are people with human emotions and it’s their business. i mean look at wonbin and eunseok, like really look at them!! you’re telling me no one tried to bag them? let’s be serious for once
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@ltyonng
so stream APE and the entire TAP album because every song on there is a masterpiece.
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full instrumental here:
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this is how ik ppl don’t actually care about idols and their humanity, cuz it would be the same thing if another member’s privacy was invaded. ppl would call for him to leave in the name of protecting the group. what about protecting seunghan? does he not deserve it? fuck y’all
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it hurts my heart knowing that they carry around the burden of “are we worthy enough?” like yes you are, you’re debuting cause you are worthy. and the antis love to make it seem like they’re leeching off of nct’s brand, but in reality they are working so hard to be recognized
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@d3aththekiddd
that company never likes to see us truly win😭😭 but i’m sure he’s so proud and happy rn. he just needs to be there for the next one
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@ltyonng
END OF THREAD. this was for all the APE enjoyers. i know i didn’t highlight everything so if there is something that i missed please feel free to add
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EVERY TONGUE THAT RISES AGAINST THE HOLY TRINITY THAT IS ONRIYU SHALL PERISH. CAN I GET AN AMEN?
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i swear i’m going to keel myself if i see anymore “who are these people?” comments under nct wish tiktoks. like sakuya and sion just posted one 30 minutes ago and they are already saying it…
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i am unable to watch BoA’s scenes as oh yura in marry my husband objectively. like ik she’s another ‘villain’ but they can never make me hate mother
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a little reminder that squirrels live on trees🐿🌳.
#jaeri
nation stay strong🫡
wishzens please vote and rt. our fandom is in crisis!
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the pronounciation of smarter is rubbing me the wrong way. idc if you say i’m reaching but it’s giving stereotypical “african accent/pronounciation” anyways…
i dont ever wanna hear any kpop stan say shit like keep kpop korean ever again LMAOOO omg
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so far nct wish’s debut era has been so good. starting with the wish bakery content. countless photo dumps. debuting at tokyo dome. the song is amazing, the a&r team ate. the ineractions with seniors. and now this cupid scouting society which is such a cool and fresh concept
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and nct wish’s debut era keeps on getting better. no.1 on oricon. be my cupid. music shows. the showcase and now hello82 content?!
The lovely NCT WISH is here to introduce themselves to everyone 🥰
Question Parade with
@nctwishofficial
is out tomorrow @ 12PM KST!
📍
#QuestionParade_NCTWISH
#NCTWISHxhello82
#NCTWISH
#hello82
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@reysun_rey
i know it’s the bare minimum but i really appreciate her and the girls for being decent human beings and vocal about their support for 🍉
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one thing about doyoung, he’s going to promote his children🙂↕️
doyoung posted tears are falling on his insta story!! 🥺🫶
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after today i NEED neo centre to drop the recording behind, i’m giving them 24 hours. the wishies vocals are insane and it is a crime that we have yet to been graced with footage of their raw vocals
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everytime i see the wishies perform i thank boa and all the lastart judges for the choices they made. cause the amount of talent in this lineup is crazy. not only do all the members bring something to the table, but they are all incredibly hard working and have great chemistry.
it’s so cool when the group you’re stanning has a lineup that’s so impressive you’re not the least bit worried when they perform & that’s what i feel with wish. i’m a yushi ult but all of my wish kids are trustworthy performers, no one lags. i just never get scared lol
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@ltyonng
also i am an african, so i’m not an expert on hip-hop and rap culture. so if there is anything i misrepresented in this thread please correct me. if any black american k-pop stans, who know more, come across this thread feel free to add your own comments and critique!
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i really appreciate taeyong, doyoung, jaehyun, ten, xiaojun and all the other nct members who are supporting wish. epecially doyoung, taeyong and xiaojun, like they are being so loud about it. asking nctzens to congratulate them, listen to their songs and watch their stages
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my god there is no saving k-pop stan’s. why are there people on tiktok saying that mhj “loves” new jeans and wants to “protect” them just cause she “cried” at the press conference…
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they’re so stingy. like damn all i’m asking for is one selfie… and a tiktok… and an awsaz episode
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nctzens saying that wish don’t get baseless hate need to shut the fuck up and not speak on shit they don’t know about. literally just search up nct tokyo boycott or that boa interview where she mentioned easy-listening. that’s all the proof you need
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NO ONE HAS A WORSE CASE OF IJBOLITIS THAN OH SION😭😭
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i’m NEVER taking a mf who says “keep k-pop korean” or “blackswan are koreaboos” serious. y’all stan chinese, japanese, thai, etc. idols, but draw the line at them? y’all are just mad that they’re opening doors for more diversity and y’all can’t project your EA fetish onto them
As a lumina, what do you think of BLACKSWAN that others can’t change your mind about?
I’ll start: I genuinely think something shifted when Fatou debuted.
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it being leaked is crazy. shinee just accidently creating an iconic tradition in k-pop is so shinee of them
“We've never released our training videos.They were all leaked.[They weren't recorded to put up] Do you think Taemin's absurd 'Barcode' T-shirt or my updo would've been shown to the public? We wouldn't have shot it like that.They were all leaked. Since these videos went viral+
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we can’t leave out wish when talking about nct vocals when their encore (20 days after debut) sounds this good
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IF DAI HAS ONE MILLION FANS THEN I AM ONE OF THEM. IF DAI HAS ONE THOUSAND FANS THEN I AM ONE OF THEM. IF DAI HAS ONE HUNDRED FANS I AM ONE OF THEM. IF DAI HAS ONE FAN THEN I AM THAT ONE FAN. IF DAI HAS NO FANS THEN I AM NO LONGER ROAMING THIS EARTH
#TheBoyfriend
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@jaehcheeks
you have a point. either way, if it’s true or not, he expressed the emotions of a breakup so well and the lyrics are heartbreakingly beautiful.
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i just have to laugh, cause it’s hilarious how nctzens and others try to find a problem with wish. like y’all make something out of nothing just to hate on them, and it never works😭 you know why… cause these kids are not the villains y’all so desparately want them to be.
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y’all don’t understand i CRY everytime i see these official acc posts of wish members with the other neos… like yes my sons, you are neos too now😭😭😭😭
2024 NCT DREAM WORLD TOUR <THE DREAM SHOW 3 : DREAM( )SCAPE> with
#KUN
#DOYOUNG
#TEN
#NCTWISH
#NCT
#NCT127
#NCTDREAM
#WayV
#NCTWISH
#NCTDREAM
#THEDREAMSHOW3
#NCTDREAM_THEDREAMSHOW3
#NCTDREAM_WORLDTOUR
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wishzens please vote and rt. our fandom is in crisis!
jaeri (jaehee + riku)
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i knew it. like the crowd looks so lifeless. also the outfits were not from any of the previous tours or concerts. this is such a slap in the face to taeyong, it’s also a very dangerous thing. but they never cared about artist safety in the first place☹️
we deleted our post with his pictures from the concert scene cause they were AI generated! i don't know how sm can do something like this. i apologize for posting them
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@ohnonct16
like why are we trusting the girls who are fighting over ronnie to know who needs to stay or go😭😭😭
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@eclipsederaevie
I suspect Mew did that because he didn’t want Top to be outed in front of everyone. cause they way he confronted Top definitely gives him more of an upper hand for manipulation, compared to it happening in front his friends and everyone
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they really are just a bunch of teens cause why are they laughing so hard at someone saying hello😭😭🤣
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lmfao nct wish just posted a tiktok dancing to smoothie. are the bitter bitches going to report this too?
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@oceanairstream
especially cause ppl take their faves music and achievements as theirs or as an extension of themselves as a stan, so they feel personally attacked when ppl point it out. and when you mix in the anti-blackness and stan twt mentality it just gets worse
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can’t believe that this is how ppl talk about other human beings?! he’s not a doll that is designed after anyone, he is park wonbin… an actual person. also pls get your facts straight, his role models are exo members
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not surprised with the wishies covering tap and smoothie. like they were locked in during the smoothie era, they posted like 6 different reels and were doing the dance during lives. plus they would mention tap in every vid during that time. they really love their neo hyungs😭😭
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please i never want to hear anyone talk shit on jaehee’s vocals ever. that run he did before the chorus of songbird?! yeah TOP TIER vocalist
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i hope nctzens that hate on wish never know peace. they will be seeing the deepest fiery pits of the devil’s anus. hating and bullying these cute and talented kiids for what? joining nct 3 years later than last ppl who joined? fuck off and choke on a dick
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GUYS
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@butterflyutsie
literally all yuta listens to is jrock and jaehyun is such an old school rnb head. there’s no logic in wanting them not to do those genres
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you people are just so ungrateful and lack taste. he is a critically acclaimed producer, has been in the music industry for over a decade and has worked with some of the biggest artists. both western and k-pop. he makes hits. so stfu and put some respect on uncle jointz’ name
His only hit being obsession and that was exo carrying im sorry
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@wishcitizen
i was so surprised and proud, cause lord knows the other units just be grabbing shit and throwing it in the cart😭😭 like 127’s bklyn boys is a great example, jungwoo and his key lime pie😭💀
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