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Dear @Ch_JesusChrist leaders,.The sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was not homosexuality, but greed and lack of hospitality. Please use your voices and church resources to help, not harm, our #LGBTQ members and show more compassion for the poor. That is the right thing to do.
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This year the @Ch_JesusChrist purchased a Park City hotel and will pay for its costly renovation yet has not built a homeless shelter or domestic violence shelter anywhere in the world. It continues to buy properties for its real estate portfolio while neglecting the needy.
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It is ironic that in the center of the #LDS Church, Salt Lake City, it is the Catholic Church that administers the refugee resettlement program, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, and other humanitarian centers. We don't see any evidence that the @Ch_JesusChrist administers any.
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"The worst sinners, according to Jesus, are not the harlots and publicans, but the religious leaders with their insistence on proper dress and grooming, their careful observance of all the rules, their pious patriotism. " -Hugh Nibley.
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During the Holocaust, the @Ch_JesusChrist remained neutral regarding Hitler while the Catholic Church worked tirelessly to smuggle hundreds of thousands of Jews out of Germany. We claim to be the only true Church but too often are on the wrong side of history.
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It is unbelievable but true, that @Ch_JesusChrist attorneys wrote this in the Arizona sex abuse case:. "No duty exists to take affirmation precaution for the aid or protection of another. One human being, seeing a fellow man in dire peril, is under no obligation to help.".
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How many hetero members of the @Ch_JesusChrist would feel comfortable being told by an apostle that they should marry a person of the same sex in order to stay in the #LDS Church?.That is how David Archuleta felt. Empathy matters.
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Dear @Ch_JesusChrist leaders,. Your members aren't having a faith crisis. You are having a truth and compassion crisis. You care more about protecting the good name of the Church than protecting children who are being sexually abused.
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"What if a member told their bishop they were no longer paying tithing because they were saving it for their own retirement, just like the church isn’t using much of its own money to bless the poor because it’s saving it for its own future use?".
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While the @Ch_JesusChrist hoards $billions, it has . * laid off all meetinghouse custodians, .* increased missionary costs by 25%.* changed handbook to say members should seek food assistance from gov't before church.* said it may not use humanitarian donations for that purpose.
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Dr. Jana Reiss, a scholar and member of the @Ch_JesusChrist, says sex abuse flourishes in the #LDS church because:."[It is] A closed and nontransparent leadership system that is run almost exclusively by men. A purity culture that shames victims of sexual violence into silence.".
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Dallin Oaks at BYU this week: "The love of neighbor does not come ahead of love of God.". Jesus said the two commandments were coequal (ομος or homos, meaning the same) and that we show our love for God by loving others.
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The distance between Archuleta & the @Ch_JesusChrist was solidified when he met with one of the apostles. “I think 3 times in that conversion, he said, ‘Well, maybe we just need to find you a good girl.’ . ‘That’s not the solution,’” Archuleta said.
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A multi-million dollar @Ch_JesusChrist temple is being built in Ephriam, Utah, with a population of 6,000, which is 7 miles from Manti, Utah, (pop. 3500). The #LDS church seldom operates medical clinics or schools in poor countries.
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With five unsheltered people freezing to death on the streets of Salt Lake City in the past couple of days, the United Methodist Church opened its doors to shelter 80 homeless people. The @Ch_JesusChrist, with its vast resources & facilities, does nothing.
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Salt Lake City has the second-highest plastic surgeon per capita rate in the country, second only to Miami and ahead of Los Angeles. Plastic surgery and its Utah industry feed into the toxic mentality of #LDS to be perfect. --Elle Cowley, Daily Utah Chronicle.
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Why did Nephi need to kill Laban to get the brass plates if Joseph Smith never used them and looked into a hat to write the Book of Mormon?.Asking for a friend.
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The # LDS-dominated #Utah state legislature voted yesterday to give twice the WPU to private school students. The largest @Ch_JesusChrist -themed private school in Utah, American Heritage, doesn't accept special needs students or students who test lower than grade level. #utleg.
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Studies show that 80% of young adults are leaving the @Ch_JesusChrist. Many dislike the hateful attacks on #LGBTQ & the hoarding of $ when global humanitarian needs are great. Others find that #LDS misinformation regarding polygamy, #BookofMormon translation, & sex abuse wrong.
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In the most #LDS area in the world, there is no homeless shelter, you will be charged with a felony if you eat a couple of chicken nuggets in a ward, and members will support you if you threaten repeatedly to kill the president of USA.
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The @Ch_JesusChrist requires two men to count and deposit donations, yet one man [with no background check] is allowed to meet with vulnerable children in "worthiness" interviews.
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Some wealthy @BYU alumni will no longer donate to the school after @HollandJeffreyR threatened to allow BYU's accreditation to be revoked. That was the very situation he wanted to avoid in his homophobic talk. #lds.
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If your church is hoarding hundreds of billions of dollars of assets while nearly 200,000 of its children suffer brain damage due to malnutrition, it is behaving like a corrupt corporation, not a church.
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Changes in the @Ch_JesusChrist that would increase attendance and missionary baptisms:.1. Become the global church humanitarian leader. 2. Treat ALL marginalized communities with love and respect. 3. Make Jesus the central focus of the Church, not families, temples, or prophets.
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A Utah attorney says, "But in the 32 years that I have been a prosecutor, I have never once seen a victim be spoken for by their bishop.".Sadly, in Mormonism, victims too often receive no pastoral care. #LDS.
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A Utah man who was a counselor in an #LDS bishopric was arrested yesterday for 4 counts of enticing a minor. The young woman called the police when the bishop refused to do so. Thanks, @floodlitorg!.
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It appears that the #LDS Church has the largest real estate portfolio of any corporation in the United States. It owns about 2 million acres of land and billions of dollars of high-end real estate, including malls, luxury apartments, and office complexes. It owns 2% of Florida.
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A former Utah stake president in @Ch_JesusChrist pleaded guilty to using his influential position to scam $1.5 million from fellow church members over a 12-year period. Members are taught their leaders are called by God.
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"The #LDS church may consider the [SEC]matter closed. But it’s not. This represents a real betrayal to the millions of church members who have worked hard to live up to their standards, to be honest even where it’s hard, to obey the law even where it’s inconvenient." Sam Brunson.
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ProPublica interviewed more than 2 dozen low-income Salt Lake City-area residents about their experiences with Utah’s safety net. Almost all who weren’t active church members — and even many who were — felt that welfare in Utah is religiously prejudicial.
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"I have been deluged with email and direct messages and every other form of communication, mostly from Mormons and former Mormons alike. And it seems that everybody has a tale about child sex abuse not being reported in the Mormon church."--@MikeRezendes, acclaimed AP reporter.
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#LDS Utah legislators state that transgender youth (with medical doctors, psychologists, and parents) lack the ability to make decisions about their bodies yet believe that 8-year-old @Ch_JesusChrist children can make the eternal, life-changing decision to be baptized.
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Temple workers in the busiest temple in the SL area report that attendance is dropping each year, yet the @Ch_JesusChrist is building 6 temples within a 10-60 minute drive. Meanwhile, 5 homeless freeze to death on SL streets & the #LDS Church spends $260M on a business complex.
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When any church or corporation lacks core principles of integrity, you have a year like this:.1. 1. SEC fines LDS Church for creating illegal 10 clone companies to hide tithing investments
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#LDS growth is flat yet the @Ch_JesusChrist is building temples 10 minutes from other temples, wasting millions of $ that could feed starving children, build schools and medical clinics in developing nations, and do the charitable things Jesus would do. This is unacceptable!.
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The #LDS Church includes the value of @Ch_JesusChrist members' hours in cleaning the buildings as part of its humanitarian giving, which is unethical and misleading.
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It is disappointing that @NelsonRussellM attacks those who leave the @Ch_JesusChrist or who question its truth claims as being lazy learners or feeling that "membership requires too much of them." Many are diligent learners who have devoted their lives to #LDS service.
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Two more deaths by suicide this week of #LDS #LGBTQ young people who feel worthless in the @Ch_JesusChrist, that attacks them regularly and sometimes violently. The dehumanization of our marginalized members is unacceptable and needs to stop ASAP.
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An 18-year-old #LDS woman was raped by her boyfriend. She was “disfellowshipped” by the @Ch_JesusChrist bishop, forbidden from taking the sacrament, speaking in church, serving in a church position or performing temple rituals. This is not uncommon.
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Celeste Borys, who served as Tim Ballard’s executive assistant and frequently traveled around the globe with him, and the four other women also said they had never seen a single child rescued on any OUR operations.
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So the Book of Mormon gold plates were written, preserved, and obtained so that Joseph Smith could "translate" them by staring into a hat. Does this make any sense?.
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The #LDS Church may need to pump 1 million gallons of water per day from the Heber City site to build the temple, an environmental disaster that will harm the Heber Valley aquifer or the groundwater. We urge the @Ch_JesusChrist to change the location.
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9 plaintiffs allege that senior #LDS leaders lied for decades about using member tithing donations solely for charitable causes while instead investing in a multibillion-dollar “slush fund” at Ensign Peak Advisors, the @Ch_JesusChrist's investment arm.
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A Utah lawmaker and prominent attorney for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints advised a church bishop not to report a confession of child sex abuse to authorities, a decision that allowed the abuse to continue for years.
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#LDS scholars at church-owned universities can now only perform research that confirms @Ch_JesusChrist beliefs. This invalidates the integrity of their research.
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The #LDS Church can build a $billion mall, multiple high-end office & apt complexes, and many other facilities in Salt Lake but can't build a homeless shelter.
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The @Ch_JesusChrist has become so rigid and cultish that they now state in their Handbook that they can excommunicate someone for opposing #LDS policy. That is a dangerous practice and attempts to silence some of the best and brightest members.
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"Today I reaffirm strongly that the Lord has asked every worthy, able young man to prepare for and serve a mission. For Latter-day Saint young men, missionary service is a priesthood responsibility." -- Pres. Nelson, Apr.2022. None of the First Presidency served missions.
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According to the Widows Mite report, the average #LDS ward sends $211,000 in tithing to the @Ch_JesusChrist and receives back $6500 as a budget, with about $45,000+ going to Ensign Peak investments. The Church gives -1% of tithes for humanitarian aid.
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If the @Ch_JesusChrist is the "most inspired" Church, it would lead the world on valuing and including people of color, LGBTQ, and women, yet it does not.
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We apologize for our post that stated @NelsonRussellM was quoted more than Jesus in #LDS #GeneralConference. We reviewed the talks and found that Pres. Nelson was quoted 33 times and Jesus was quoted 65 times and referred to many more times than that. Again, we apologize.
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When the @Ch_JesusChrist teaches that girls are responsible for boys' thoughts and behavior, asks bishops not to report rape, silenced victims of ecclesiastical sexual abuse, & allows worthiness interviews with trusting kids, they have created rape culture.
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In the October 2018 Women’s Session, Pres. Nelson told the women, “We need you! We need your strength, your conversion, your conviction, your. voices.”. At the same time, he had three men speak at the session instead of the usual practice of one male speaker.
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In February 2020 Roger Clarke, the former head of Ensign Peak, told The Wall Street Journal that #LDS leaders wanted to keep the church’s $100 billion reserve a secret because they were afraid, upon seeing the church’s amassed wealth, some members might stop paying tithing.
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We ask the @Ch_JesusChrist to use more of its vast wealth to become a world humanitarian leader rather than marginalizing #LGBTQ, female, and poor members. Please behave like a church--not a corporation. [It currently donates about .008% of its tithes to humanitarian aid.].
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“When the culture of an organization mandates that it is more important to protect the reputation of a system and those in power than to protect the basic human dignity of individuals or communities, shame is systemic, money drives ethics, and accountability is dead.” Brene Brown.
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Dear @NelsonRussellM , .If you truly care about our precious children, please tell the bishops to report all abuse to authorities. Asking them to call a @Ch_JesusChrist hotline manned by attorneys who too often tell them NOT to report abuse is unacceptable and wrong.
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72% of Utah counties are #LDS members who do not allow a homeless shelter to be built, wanting the homeless to be self-reliant. Some are sick, suffer from mental and physical illness, or have lost jobs. That doesn't seem to matter.
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Each year #LDS bishops are required to meet with members to determine if they paying a full tithing--not to see if they have special needs or health challenges. The @Ch_JesusChrist focuses heavily on how much the members can give and much less on critical needs the members have.
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Russell Brunson, the co-founder of an Eagle, Idaho, digital marketing firm, claimed in a social media video in September that M. Russell Ballard introduced him to Tim Ballard for the purpose of helping (donating to) O.U.R.
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#LDS members can be kind to folks who believe as they do but can reject those who leave the @Ch_JesusChrist. David Archuleta, formerly an #LDS icon, attended a funeral for a church leader Friday & said he was shunned (after coming out as #LGBTQ).
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While unhoused people die in the shadows of #LDS temples, the @Ch_JesusChrist is demolishing a Provo temple built in 1972 because it wants different architecture. This seems like a horrible waste of money that could have been used to save many lives.
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The problem is, JulieHanks says, there is no mechanism for members to offer valuable feedback to @Ch_JesusChrist higher-ups on what they see as amiss. “We need to get to a point where instead of excommunicating them, we thank them for calling such problems to our attention.".
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The #LDS Church is buying billions of dollars of real estate and putting billions more in hedge funds yet has not built one homeless shelter or medical clinic for the destitute. Think celestial.
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The @Ch_JesusChrist requires members to be honest at all times and yet lies about its finances, history, and doctrinal changes. Until #LDS church leaders choose to be honest, they will lose more and more members.
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The #LDS Church is wealthier than most countries in the world and is headed to become a trillion-dollar church by 2045. It gives less than 1% of its income to help the poor and suffering.
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General Conference for the @Ch_JesusChrist is a reminder that women in the #LDS Church are seldom heard and often silenced in a church that is administered by men on every level.
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#LDS Church leaders were not politically neutral when they spent millions to fight gay marriage and equal rights for women, but tell members to be politically neutral.
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The #LDS Church has used its vast wealth to threaten a small town to let it build a temple in a space zoned for dark skies and 30' buildings. Although the Cody mayor has stopped the permit process, Cody lacks the $ to fight a $100 Billion corporation.
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If you have nothing to hide, you hide nothing. We ask the @Ch_JesusChrist to release financial reports of its tithes, businesses, humanitarian work, and fast offerings. That would be the ethical thing to do.
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Tim Ballard, Lori & Chad Vallow, and Jodi Hildebrandt & Ruby Franke have been supported by many #LDS members and reflect--to some degree--how easily @Ch_JesusChrist members can be duped by folks who pretend to be inspired by God.
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"The church’s humanitarian aid needs financial transparency and clarity. Prove that assisting the hungry, homeless, widows and orphans is more important than billions in Apple, Microsoft, Amazon & Facebook stock.". You cannot serve God & mammon.
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A Boy Scouts of America whistleblower (who was BSA former director child protection) says administrators blocked proposed child protection measures because they feared objections from the @Ch_JesusChrist. Saints.
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"The victim must do all in his or her power to stop the abuse. At some point in time, however, the Lord may prompt a victim to recognize a degree of responsibility for abuse." Richard G. Scott. This awful talk is still used in some lessons in the @Ch_JesusChrist ! Unacceptable!.
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With its vast wealth, the #LDS could be a world humanitarian leader. Instead, @Ch_JesusChrist lied about the Church's assets while demanding that members be honest. Unacceptable!.[1/2 of 1% of tithes are given to help the poor.].
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How would you feel about a powerful church leader who brought a young girl into his home as his "daughter" after her mother died, sent her father on a mission, and then insisted that the girl marry him in 24-hrs or forfeit eternal salvation?.That was what Joseph Smith did.
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If your church advises its leaders to NOT report horrific sexual abuse of babies when it is legal to do so, your church is behaving like a corrupt corporation, not like a church.
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The #LDS insurance provider is refusing to pay sex abuse claims against the @Ch_JesusChrist. The insurance company says the Church negligently caused abuse by failing "to report a reasonable suspicion of child sexual abuse" and "to supervise and train clergy."
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As the #LDS population in Utah plateaus and birthrates plummet, the @Ch_JesusChrist is building 10 temples and will soon have 28, some within a few miles of other temples. Meanwhile, last winter people in Utah froze and died outside the temple walls.
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The @Ch_JesusChrist states that David committed adultery with Bathsheba. In reality, he raped her because:.1. He was in a position of power over her. 2. She did not consent. 3. Nathan tells David that he stole his neighbor's lamb, killed it, and served it to guests.
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If the @Ch_JesusChrist was the "most inspired" Church, it would lead the world in humanitarian work. It does not.
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This awful talk is still referenced in a number of #LDS manuals and is so toxic that it should be removed from the @Ch_JesusChrist catalog of talks.
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Joanna Brooks reports "in the temple recommend interview [the bishop] asked [my 12-year-old daughter] if she was affiliated with any groups opposed to the church. And she said no. And he said, 'Well, that’s not true because your dad’s Jewish.'".
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Elder David Bednar, a former university president and a member of the quorum of 12, plagiarized a portion of his address at a #LDS General Conference, passing off the words of a religious teacher as his own.
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#LDS financial professors have analyzed #LDS $ for 5 years and determined that the @Ch_JesusChrist can operate independently indefinitely and still give $1B each year for humanitarian work. It no longer needs tithing.
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#LDS stakes now will need 150 active, full-tithe-paying Melchizedek Priesthood holders capable of serving in leadership positions & 500 adults. No minimum number of women is mentioned since they have no voice in the @Ch_JesusChrist.
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How the Church is marginalizing the poor:.* Imposing a white middle-class dress code.* Telling members the Church is poor when it is rich.* Requiring the poor to pay tithes-> temple blessings.* Saying it is a charity when it gives less than 1% of its tithes for humanitarian workR.
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Dr Rochow said the #LDS church spent little on charity. “They don’t set up schools, don’t set up hospitals, don’t have homeless shelters, don’t have places for women to escape when they have bad marriages.”.Sidney Morning Herald, 6 July 2022.
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Far-right activist Ammon Bundy, who led the takeover of a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, must pay over $50 million in damages for accusing a hospital of child trafficking and harassing medical staff. Bundy is popular with #LDS extremists.
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The #LDS Church now has enough money in savings to fund the Church in perpetuity and still would have $1 billion excess monies--without asking members to pay any tithing. We suggest it would be ethical and moral for the Church to focus on humanitarian giving.
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Many members of the @Ch_JesusChrist aren't having a faith crisis. The #LDS Church is having a truth crisis as leaders share misinformation about its finances, humanitarian donations, history, ecclesiastical sexual abuse, and theology.
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Helmuth Hübener, a 17-year-old young man, was excommunicated by #LDS Church leaders for speaking the truth about Hitler and was also beheaded by the Nazis. Too often, the @Ch_JesusChrist removes its best and brightest members who speak the truth to power.
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Utah medical examiners say there is a disturbing number of #LDS #LGBTQ suicides. @Ch_JesusChrist leaders' homophobic language and stance are fueling some of this. We can and must do better.
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