A study on how
#HaiKaveh
were designed as a pair, and why they are meant to complement and complete each other. โฌ๏ธ
๐ต๐๐๐: This thread references and uses some visuals from ็ฅๅฆๆตท็ปดไธป้กต, a CN ๐ฑ๐๏ธ fanpage:
1) HaiKavehโs character designs are mirrored:
Alhaitham and Kaveh exhibiting married couple behaviour โ a
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐ thread. โฌ๏ธ
1) Couple drinking cups on the living room table and two of the exact same instrument in the corner. Doesn't this suggest that they play music together? โค๏ธ (cont.)
A thread compiling the cute and domestic
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐ details in their house โฌ๏ธ
1) All the drinking cups on the living room table come in pairs! โ๏ธโ๏ธ
+The teapot ver. of "The Mellow Pot" has 3 cups (instead of 2), so this arrangement seems even more intentional.
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
// 4.6 Cyno's Story Quest 2 spoilers
๐ข PSA: There's a super cute bonus
#haikaveh
scene during the โAfter Reposeโ subquest! Right after leaving the campsite, go to the House of Daena ๐ฏ๐ฒ๐ณ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ฒ Cyrusโ home with Tighnari! It seems that players will miss this scene otherwise.
A
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐๏ธ thread โ Kaveh, who โcannot accept pure goodwillโ, comfortably accepting/asking for favours from Alhaitham. Or: How Alhaitham spoils Kaveh. โฌ๏ธโฌ๏ธโฌ๏ธ
5) HaiKavehโs elemental bursts combine to make a complete building/house โ Haithamโs burst represents the roof and walls, while Kavehโs burst represents the walls and flooring.
Another
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐๏ธ thread โ instances of Kaveh being Alhaithamโs ๐ฒ๐ ๐ฐ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐๐ถ๐ผ๐ป โฌ๏ธ
1) Alhaithamโs โCharacter Detailsโ describe how mysterious and difficult he is to find, yet Kaveh runs into him (by coincidence) all the time. ๐ฅบ (๐๐๐๐ก.)
๐ข PSA: More
#haikaveh
food! ๐ฅบโค๏ธ CN shippers are CELEBRATING because QRT is an official Genshin ad on Weibo!
It also โconfirmsโ a long-lasting speculation that Haitham was actually turning back to look at Kaveh in his splash art and famous shot at [0:43] of his character demo.
Alhaitham, when Kaveh says to keep them being roommates a secret: "...I think the truth's already out. You're such a lightweight that a few drinks at the tavern had you spilling all your beans."
Also Alhaitham:
A
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐๏ธ thread โ Alhaitham and Kaveh being that couple who cannot stop thinking about and mentioning each other in front of all their friends. โฌ๏ธ
(๐๐๐๐ก 1/9) โYou didnโt ask, but I have a roommate.โ Exhibit A:
Hereโs a cute
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐๏ธ trivia:
In the CN voiceover, Alhaitham refers to Kaveh as โๆไปฌ็ๅคงๅปบ็ญๅธโ (โour great architectโ) and โ้ฃไฝๅคงๅปบ็ญๅธโ (โthat great architectโ). On three separate occasions.
This seems to be a nickname Alhaitham has for Kaveh. ๐ฅบ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
A self-indulgent thread of all the implied and direct
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐ moments during the V3.6 "A Parade of Providence" event โฌ๏ธ
1) Alhaitham and Kaveh secretly glance at each other on the event banner! ๐ (Somehow this feels more intimate than looking at each other.)
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
Letโs talk briefly about this particular line written by Alhaitham on the Puspa Cafรฉ Message Board (๐ฝ๐ถ๐ฐ). โฌ๏ธ
Itโs a line that the CN
#HaiKaveh
community ๐๐๐ฃ๐๐ but it doesnโt seem to be brought up as often here? It's a little cuter than you think! โค๏ธ (๐๐๐๐ก.)
6) Kavehโs burst includes a pattern designed by the Scribe (Haitham). + Haithamโs burst includes a pattern that has some relevance to Kshahrewar (Kavehโs alma mater/Darshan).
Some of the Genshin characters have an extra/unvoiced line on the official website!
Haitham: โOnly the best are humble.โ
Kaveh: โA person of action best knows the meaning of a vantage point.โ
Might just be my
#haikaveh
brain but they sound like they are describing each other...
// 4.6 Cynoโs Story Quest 2 spoilers
This
#haikaveh
scene demonstrates how attentive and responsive Haitham is to Kaveh. I find it very sweet and domestic how Haitham cares about and reacts to every single (even mundane) thing that Kaveh says. ๐ฅน๐ (๐๐ค๐ฃ๐ฉ.)
CN > ENG TN: โโฆIf you both stay a little longer, youโll meet TWO other familiar friends. They are coming from Avidya Forest, and they should be here soon. When we need to celebrate, we meet at the tavern โ thatโs been the long-standing rule/agreement among the FOUR of us.โ
WOW! โค๏ธ๐ Please support and play โOptimal Solutionโใๆไผ่งฃใif you are able to! Itโs a free game created out of love for
#haikaveh
๐ฑ๐ by a team of 20+ CN fans. Itโs 4 hours (๐ฃ๐ข๐ด๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ฐ๐ฏ ๐ฎ๐บ ๐ฆ๐น๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ณ๐ช๐ฆ๐ฏ๐ค๐ฆ) worth of gameplay with 16 CGs/illustrations. (๐๐ค๐ฃ๐ฉ.)
๐ข PSA (esp. for the people who got the V3.7 Battle Pass furnishing/Adhigama Wood "Repose" Couch ๐ซถ), it is possible to 'hide' a chair in a bed like so!
Learned this from a helpful CN player (bless this person ๐) on bilibili. Here's their tutorial!โก๏ธ
Often, I think about how well Alhaitham listens to Kaveh... If Kaveh tells Haitham to tidy up, Haitham tidies up. ๐ฑ๐๐งน If Kaveh tells Haitham to wait, Haitham waits. ๐ฑ๐๐ง (๐๐๐๐ก.)
A thread of
#HaiKaveh
๐ฑ๐ references (and being 'mirrors' of each other) in their voicelines + Serenitea Pot dialogue โฌ๏ธ ๐๐: ๐๐ฉ๐ช๐ฑ๐ฑ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐๐ฐ๐จ๐จ๐ญ๐ฆ๐ด, ๐ฎ๐ข๐บ๐ฃ๐ฆ?
1) "Complaining" about each other lฬตiฬตkฬตeฬต ฬตaฬต ฬตmฬตaฬตrฬตrฬตiฬตeฬตdฬต ฬตcฬตoฬตuฬตpฬตlฬตeฬต.
4-1) HaiKaveh have matching idle animations. This first set of idle animations shows Kaveh searching for his missing key, which is in Haithamโs possession:
2) Alhaitham referring to Aether/Lumine and Paimon as "guests" (instead of "MY guests") and leaving Kaveh to attend to them. ๐ค Very shared-household-behaviour.
+ I'd also like to emphasise Kaveh's use of "ๅฎถ้" ("home") in P3. ๐ (cont.)
3) Kaveh decorating their home and casually asking Alhaitham to check if a painting is straightened. They go on furniture shopping dates too! ๐๏ธ
Fun fact: In P2, CN Kaveh uses the term "ไธ่ฎธ" ("not allowed"). He's speaking like Alhaitham needs his permission. ๐ (cont.)
4) Kaveh nagging Alhaitham about housework and tidying up his books.
If you use Nahida's skill on Alhaitham after the SQ, he actually does think about it too. ๐ฅบ๐ (cont.)
// leaks
Kavehโs Character Story 2 states he โcannot accept pure goodwillโโฆ
But this same Kaveh immediately replies โOf course!โ with a bright, cute smile when Alhaitham asks if he has to treat him to drinks after furniture shopping (at the end of Alhaithamโs Story Quest). ๐ฅบ
8) Haithamโs constellation is โVultur Volansโ, while Kavehโs constellation is โParadisaeaโ. The placements of their wings are mirrored, and incorporated into HaiKavehโs character designs.
Please refer to Meaโs insightful tweet in QRT:
We've long known that Alhaitham's name means young hawk / young eagle but how come I've only realized now that their cape / scarf on their backs represents the wings in their constellations? It's such a nice detail oh my ๐ญ๐๐๐
#haikaveh
This other chair seats two people. There are fruits and books here too.
It seems that there isn't a designated table/chair; HaiKaveh just share the space in the study. This feels pretty significant because Alhaitham is protective of his personal space and time. ๐โจ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
6) Having 4 voicelines about Kaveh is not enough. ๐คฃ Alhaitham makes another reference to Kaveh's drunk habits (writing on message boards) in his max. friendship voiceline! โ๏ธ
Cut of
#haikaveh
โs inner thoughts with Nahidaโs skill. โฌ๏ธ They are both thinking about coffee! โ๏ธโค๏ธ๐ฅน (Also, the idea of Mehrak running errands/doing Kavehโs grocery shopping is so endearing.)
7) // hangout spoilers: Kaveh has a box of his old belongings (w/ his mother's notebook). It looks to be kept on this shelf across Alhaitham's room.
+Keeping such a personal box in a common space (when he has his own room) demonstrates comfort and trust (to me). ๐ฅบ
/๐๐๐
5) Purposeful cut to Kaveh in the BG as Alhaitham says "It's important to keep your priorities straight" and "dinner". ๐คญ
Sure enough, in the very next scene, Alhaitham is talking to Kaveh in the study. (cont.)
2) Fresh fruits everywhere in the house because Kaveh likes them! ๐๐
+Some CN fans spotted this: there looks to be a "Star-Shaped Multipurpose Bottle" on a table in the study. According to its teapot description, it can be used to "peel fruits" too.
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
4) The living room is split into two sides โ Kaveh's (on the left w/ fruits & instruments) and Alhaitham's (on the right w/ books).
๐๐๐ก๐: During the V3.6 "A Parade of Providence" event, Kaveh also grabbed Alhaitham's documents (on Sachin) from the right side.
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
// genshin leaks
I am very, very shy so I rarely interact with anyone + this is my 1st original tweet. ๐ฅบ But I found the
#HaiKaveh
CN voicelines so much sweeter and softer than the ENG that I just HAD to come out of my cave and share my own translation (based on the CN). โค๏ธ
9) How could I have forgotten โ more of Alhaitham and Kaveh going on dates around Sumeru. Alhaitham calls Kaveh "spoilt"...and continues to buy him drinks. ๐ณ๐
P1 - Puspa Cafรฉ Message Board
P2 - Port Ormos Bulletin Board
P3 - Mahamata Bulletin Board
9) The CN headlines used in HaiKavehโs character introductions match, and can be put together to form a ๅฏน่/couplet.
RIA kindly translated and explained these headlines in QRT:
Haitham and Kaveh's CN short descriptions can form a Chinese Duilian (poem) when you put them together...
This type of poem must follow strict rules (character length, tone pattern etc) so this is 100% intentionalโจ๐ฅบ
6) The entrances to their rooms are designed to reflect their personalities/interests:
Outside Kaveh's room, it looks bright, and he has his painting and broom. ๐ผ๐งน | Outside Alhaitham's room, it's darker and he has his books. ๐
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
Revamped the
#haikaveh
๐ฑ๐๏ธ
#sereniteapot
mansion! Photos, video walk-through, and Replica ID (Asia Server) in thread โฌ๏ธ
1โฃ First off, ๐๐๐ข๐ง ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ:
12-1) Players gain a clearer and deeper understanding of Haitham only through Kaveh, and vice versa.
Haitham is the sole person who can see through Kavehโs facade and/or deepest feelings and thoughts:
Another Bonus:
In Kaveh's Character Story 5, Alhaitham asks Kaveh "How has realizing your ideals ("็ๆณ") gone for you?"
The same keyword ("็ๆณ") is mentioned in Kaveh's "About Us: Ideals" CN voiceline โ rough TN: (๐๐๐๐ก.)
I present to you...V2 (V1 in QRT) of my Serenitea Pot Mansion for
#HaiKaveh
! ๐โจ๐
For the bunk beds in P3 & P4, I referenced Ivana22's tutorial:
Some photos (mostly of the rooms with the biggest changes), a video tour, and the Replica ID below โฌ๏ธ
#HaiKaveh
's lฬตoฬตvฬตeฬต ฬตnฬตeฬตsฬตtฬต 2nd home is finally ready in my Serenitea Pot! ๐ฅนโค๏ธ๐ Worked on this over 5 days (because I kept changing my mind + load limit struggles) and I'm so happy with how it turned out hehe โฌ๏ธ
Hereโs a fun and interesting difference between Sethosโ ENG and CN voicelines about
#haikaveh
:
In CN, he specifies that Kaveh is โalways murmuring/mumbling things that he (Kaveh) doesnโt want others to know aboutโ to Haitham. ๐
Full CN > ENG TN in the next tweet! (๐ค๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ต.)
5) On Kaveh's side, both of the instruments are actually the *exact same*. ๐ต It seems likely that Kaveh and Alhaitham play music together.
(๐๐๐ก๐: The teapot ver. of this instrument is "An Elegant Voice".)
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
#HaiKaveh
โค๏ธ I really love how Alhaitham looks at Kaveh throughout their conversation after his story quest! Heโs all smiley, gentle and teasing ๐ญ (If youโd like your heart to melt even more, please try switching over to the CN voiceover!)
3) On this same table, we also have a magnifying glass and a ruler (?). ๐๐
The magnifying glass is deliberately placed next to a book; CN fans assume that Alhaitham uses it to read ancient texts. As an architect, Kaveh probably uses the ruler.
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
7) Thought it was odd that the Akademiya allocated only *ONE* house to 2 men? Makes sense if the Akademiya considers them a ๐๐๐๐๐๐. ๐ญโค๏ธ
P1 - Alhaitham's Character Story 4
P2 & P3 - Albedo and Tighnari's conversation during the Windblume Festival event!
Revealing myself as a
#HaiKaveh
height difference supporter. ๐ฅบ๐ช I hereby present my evidence.
(Photos are from the Genshin Impact Official Taobao Store! The Alhaitham acrylic stand is 3mm taller.)
#HaiKaveh
and coffee... โ๐ Very cute!
(Given how HaiKaveh have matching idle animations to voicelines, I'd like to believe that this was intentional too! Even if not, this makes a pretty sweet hc.)
๐ Kavehโs Birthday Message โ CN > ENG Translation โฌ๏ธ
โEh? What brings you to our home (๐ญ)? I recall that it should still be a while before the time we have decided for our dinner gathering (๐ฎ)?
Look at the camera? Oh, right... The Akademiya seemed to have (๐๐๐๐ก.)
THE DOMESTICITY AFFSKLADHSJAK ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ๐ซถ๐ซถ๐ซถ
#HaiKaveh
โRecently, (I/we)* replenished the coffee beans at home and bought several new varieties. After comparison, we both think that this tastes the best.โ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
Guys, please listen to CN Kaveh as he says โๅบ่ฏฅไผๆๅง๏ผโฆไธๅฏน๏ผๆ่ฟ็ใโ You can hear the little smile and affection in his โๆ่ฟ็โ (as he thinks about Alhaitham)! ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
4) Alhaitham tells the Traveler โNo need for thanksโ and โWeโre evenโโฆbut wants to hear โThank youโ thrice from Kaveh specifically. ๐ณ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
What CN Kaveh actually says here is closer to: โHey, why are you imitating the way that he speaks?โ
Itโs a simple sentence but tells us so much about the intimacy between
#haikaveh
. โค๏ธ Kaveh is able to recognise Haithamโs manner of speech immediately, and he doesnโt (๐๐๐๐ก.)
โno one knows his whereaboutsโโฆexcept for Kaveh whoโs so familiar with Alhaithamโs schedule that he is able to specify where heโd be (not just โthe Akademiyaโ but โthe records roomโ), depending on the time of the day. ๐ซถ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
Still reeling from all the
#HaiKaveh
content in Alhaitham's Character Story 4! ๐ฅน๐
If anyone is interested, I've attempted a more direct CN > ENG translation of the last few sentences. Please view the image attached! (cont.)
2) Alhaitham doesnโt respond to other peopleโs voices because of his โsoundproof earpiecesโ. But for some reason, Kavehโs voice can get through them. ๐
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
// hangout spoilers
aahhh... The Kaveh face card will always be valid ๐ญโค๏ธ This was such a lovely scene that I hit record before I even realised it.
This Kaveh-centric fan video is so gooddd and gave me the giggles (in the best possible way). ๐ญ๐คฃโค๏ธ Sharing this so yโall can enjoy it too!
๐ โ้กป ๅผฅ ่ ็โโๅก็ปดๅคงๆไบๆขโ (โSumeruโs Dancing King โ Exchanging Bursts With Kavehโ) by bxkanahxonxusak
๐
12-2) Additionally, in CN, Haithamโs โAbout Kaveh: Overly Sensitiveโ voiceline and Kavehโs profile description use the same words: โๆฑๆ่ฟๅบฆ๏ผ็๏ผๅ ณๆๅฟโ:
Gentle reminder that Kaveh is described as โๆฑๆ่ฟๅบฆๅ ณๆๅฟโ (โoverly caringโ) in his profile. These are also the exact same words Alhaitham uses in his โAbout Kaveh: Overly Sensitiveโ voiceline. ๐ฅบ๐ซถ
โบ๏ธ Something cute:
The CN fandom mainly has 2 names for HaiKaveh โ ๆตท็ปด and ็ฅๅฆ.
The former combines Alhaitham (่พๅฐ/ๆตท/ๆฃฎ) and Kaveh's (ๅก/็ปด/) names
while the latter combines the 1st character of their Darshan, /็ฅ/่ฎบๆดพ (Haravatat) and /ๅฆ/่ฎบๆดพ (Kshahrewar). (cont.)
// 3.6 A Parade of Providence & 4.6 Cynoโs Story Quest 2 spoilers
Goshhh, please watch these scenes of Kaveh and Tighnari with the CN VO! They sound so soft and gentle. I especially love the way they care about each other and their friendship... ๐ฅน๐ซถ
3) Alhaitham, with the gentlest expression on his face, confirms if heโd need to bring Kaveh furniture shopping ๐ต๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ buy him drinks (when Kaveh didnโt even mention drinks).
And Kaveh replies โOf course!โ with a bright smile; no hesitation whatsoever. ๐ญ๐
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
CN
#HaiKaveh
fans noticed a cute parallel ๐
P1&2 - K: โDo I need to ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ my personal matters to you?โ vs A: โI don't recall being obligated to ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐ these to you.โ
P3&4 - A: โWe can ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ later.โ vs K: โโฆthis isn't the time/place for a ๐ฑ๐ฒ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐๐ฒ...โ
3) Alhaitham lives strictly by 9-5 and has โminimum viable seriousnessโ towards work ๐ญ but takes on โextra workโ (according to Nilou) as a commentator at the Akademiya Extravaganza to investigate Sachin for Kaveh!
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
9-2) Alhaitham specifically suggests Kaveh to read his documents (related to Sachin) and leaves a message in a script that only the both of them can understand.
All of these heavily imply that Alhaitham embarked on this investigation to seek the truth and (๐๐๐๐ก.)
Another scene of Angry Housewife!Kaveh! ๐ญ๐คฃ๐ซถ The CN dialogue is really cute and funny to me.
Rough ENG T/N: "We don't like each other anyway, so I'll be moving out as soon as possible. I'm packing my luggage right now. There won't be anyone to help him tidy his things (cont.)
5) Alhaitham talks about โrespecting other peopleโs fatesโ* but goes out of his way to help Kaveh. (Even Kaveh is puzzled by this.)
*In P1 & P2, CN Alhaitham & Kaveh actually use the same words: โๅฐ้ไปไบบ๏ผไปไปฌ็๏ผๅฝ่ฟโ (lit. โrespect other peopleโs (their) fatesโ).
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
// leaks
No the fact that after Kaveh became bankrupt, he met several friends (including those from his schooling days) and none of them realised something was wrong BUT Alhaitham was able to tell IMMEDIATELY. No one knows Kaveh as much as Alhaitham does and vice versa. ๐ญโค๏ธ
I loved how Kaveh was described in the CN Genshin Version 3.6 Special Program, so here's my translation of it! ๐
Preview: "acute perception", "sensitive and tender heart", "strong sense of empathy", "passionate and serious about architecture design".
Footnotes below! โฌ๏ธ
5) โThen we can just add a rule. >:(โ and โCโmon, youโre not going to stand in the way of my victory, are you? >:|โ ๐ญ๐ญ๐ญ
/๐๐๐
We have come to the end of this thread (for now)! A big thanks to the HaiKaveh community (especially the amazing accounts featured)! โค๏ธ
I have also attached my conversation with ็ฅๅฆๆตท็ปดไธป้กต, where they permitted my repost. ๐
2) Kaveh takes โten crates of wineโ meant for Alhaitham without informing him beforehand. To be fair, Alhaitham also helps himself to Kavehโs beer whenever he pleases. ๐ณ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
๐น๐ข๐ ๐๐๐๐ก: This situation reminds me a lot of the CN phrase, โไธๅๅฝผๆญคโ (more literally, โno distinction/separation between what is oneโs own and what is anotherโsโ). Itโs a common phrase used to describe a very close/intimate relationship. โค๏ธ
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
It seems that
#HaiKaveh
have a habit of mumbling to themselves while working? โฌ๏ธ
P1 (V3.6): Haitham is described to โ่ช่จ่ช่ฏญโ (โto speak to oneselfโ) while scribbling on documents.
P2 (V3.8): Kaveh is described as โๅๅๅๅโ (โto speak softly; usually in privateโ).
Cute! ๐ณ
4) At the beginning, Kaveh worried about how he could repay Alhaitham for letting him stay in his house. Now, heโs comfortable enough to ask for some free treats from Alhaitham. ๐ฅฒ๐๐ป
(๐๐๐๐ก.)
Something that I find really cute is how the Traveller seems just as invested in
#haikaveh
as the rest of us. ๐คฃโค๏ธ
See: The Travellerโs knowing expression, the fact that they gossip with Nahida about hkvh, and how they proactively tried to involve Haitham during Kavehโs hangout.
Aiya, so cute! ๐ญโจโค๏ธ Haithamโs CN birthday message heavily implies that Kaveh is actually already next to him, and they are both waiting for Cynonari!
Kaveh and Alhaitham *do* share all the spaces in their study. ๐ฅน๐ Kavehโs sitting at the bigger table right in front of the bookshelves! (๐๐๐๐ก.)
Happy Birthday, Kaveh!
#GenshinImpact
#Kaveh
Want to see more videos and GIFs of Kaveh? Hurry over to Genshin Impact's TikTok account to watch them together!
Genshin really said โAlhaitham became Kavehโs homeโ! And I'm never going to shut up about it. They make me so ๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅนโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ !!!!
2) โYou didnโt ask, but I have a roommate.โ Exhibit B. *Also never forgets to fish out Kavehโs keys once every 30 seconds or so to smile lovingly at them, no matter where he may be in Teyvat.* (๐๐๐๐ก.)
comfortable around Alhaitham.
Also, the CN text makes it obvious that Kaveh was the one to volunteer to do the household chores; it wasnโt initially at Alhaithamโs request, as Alhaithamโs Character Story 4 may have led us to think!
Fan t/n (CN > ENG) of this Housewife!Kaveh &
#HaiKaveh
scene! โจI found Kaveh's choice of words so cute and wanted to share.
Note: This is a more direct t/n with footnotes included below. โฌ๏ธ Please know that the ENG VO is also awesome and this isn't meant to be a comparison. โค๏ธ