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Update on the fraudulent takedowns of the TUNIC & Dustforce OSTs:
We're still waiting to hear back from our counternotice. We received a 2nd threat to take down our remaining music. We're worried our distributor
@Distrokid
won't protect us from new attacks, but will even ban us:
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Recently I received a threat on Messenger from a random person, saying they would take down my music. They made a simple DMCA claim and now everything's being removed from all streaming services. Janice and I are working hard to get things back online, but no definite answers yet
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The TUNIC OST (and others) are back online! The weeks of musicless uncertainty were worrisome.
@alsojanice
and I were lucky to have everyones patience & support. We want to show our thanks by releasing for free some of our initial piano concepts for TUNIC:
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After 7 years, the TUNIC soundtrack is complete. I co-composed it with Janice Kwan
@alsojanice
, and we're excited to finally share it with everyone. It's 60 tracks and 3 hours long! It'll release March 16, but you can pre-order it now and hear some tracks:
TUNIC (Original Game Soundtrack), by Lifeformed × Janice Kwan
61 track album
lifeformed.bandcamp.com
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The affected albums/tracks are: TUNIC, Fastfall, Umbra, and Undiscovery. All of our music is still accessible and streamable on
#Bandcamp
.
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They simply had to send an email to Apple Music with no proof, and the entire network of streaming services will instantly remove the music, block the royalties, and "flag my account". The onus is on me to prove that I am the owner, and they have no obligation to listen to me.
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They say there's nothing they can do, but of course we all know they would never take down a big artist or label.
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Anyways, I'm hopeful it'll be back up and running soon, we filed a counter claim but it might take at least two weeks to resolve.
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Remember: all the attacker had to do was ask, and leave a throwaway email address. If they do this again, our music will effectively be banned from the mainstream internet.
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They just said the only thing I can do is take legal action against the scammer, from which they've only provided me their throwaway email address lol
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Anyone, anywhere in the world, can do this to any music that is not from the big labels, who are specially whitelisted from these problems (and who made these laws in the first place).
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Everyone already knows that the DMCA laws are deeply flawed and disproportionately benefit large corporations. Then why do distributors and streaming services not at the very least offer the most basic protections against these low effort attacks?
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We're hoping not just to get our music back, but that
@distokid
and other services can offer protections against these kinds of attacks in the near future for artists everywhere.
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Even if we get our music back online, there are no protections against another attack. Janice and I work hard every day to make new music and games that we hope to share soon but we rely on the streaming income to do that.
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Janice (
@alsojanice
) and I did an interview with Bandcamp Daily about working on the Tunic soundtrack together 🎵
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I have a (bad) update! We've received a new threat to take down our remaining music. There's nothing we can do except keep waiting. I'm not sure what will happen.
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They could offer optional steps to more closely verify identity, and do a very basic manual review of claims against long-time artists with a wide audience.
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The Deltarune soundtrack was also taken down from a false DMCA claim as well!
The DELTARUNE Chapter 1 soundtrack received a fraudulent DMCA Takedown Notice today.
We are working with related parties to prevent downtime on streaming platforms. As this is a legal matter, we can't comment further.
For now, please listen on bandcamp:
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The most challenging track for
@alsojanice
and I was the main theme, To Far Shores. Making it was arduous, with over a hundred internal tracks, and we worked on it over 2 months. But the biggest challenge was learning how to untangle our conflicted feelings of creative ownership.
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Does anyone know of a good music distributor that offers at least the tiniest bit of protection for their artists from fraudulent DMCA claims? Like even just a single human in the loop who does the most rudimentary google search to filter out trolls.
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Also, to make up for lost time, we also wanted to post some fun facts and tidbits about the tracks on TUNIC daily over the next week or so. So check back here for some of our thoughts during the 7 year production period of the game. Let us know if you have any specific questions!
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when working on tunic, janice recorded a lot of sounds of daily life in taipei and turned them into instruments for the soundtrack.
afterwards, she made a new album using those techniques, almost made entirely out of those recordings and new ones:
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Thank you :) Forget to Forget was the very first track I made for TUNIC. I was listening to a lot of deep house back then, and I couldn't resist adding in the low-pass breakdown at the 3 min mark.
@lifeformed
Forget to Forget reaches past my fav on the OST and into the realms of one of the most beautiful songs ever for me - I love love love when a theme gets several iterations - could you share on how Forget/Remember/Memories all came to be ?
thanks yall 🎶
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Part of Janice’s composing process is sketching out concepts on piano. I really like the way she brought a classical feel to the soundtrack and the character it adds to the boss fights.
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We get this question a lot but you may be surprised that Janice wrote Arcane Arcade and hasn't heard the Fez OST yet. I think the soundtracks to Fez, Dustforce and other games are part of a broader "hi-fi square wave sound" that has been popular in the 2010's.
@lifeformed
considering the many similarities between the games (down to the album art), was there any inspiration from fez while composing (beyond arcane arcade, at least)?
(also redwood colonade is one of my favorite songs of all time, thank you for creating such a masterpiece!!!)
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Janice (
@alsojanice
) and I had the privilege of helping contribute a little bit to the music of HYPER DEMON, including in its trailer:
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We didn't use too many synths for the pads - our general process was to record samples of interesting sounds we'd come across (or even of other tracks), and then chop them up and layer them, and play around with various samplers, granulators, effects, etc.
@lifeformed
One of the things that stuck out the most to me was the ambient pads in the OST, how did you make them? What VSTs/synths did you use ? Was there any insperation for them?
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We used to have a lot of tools, but over the years we gradually minimized our setup, partly due to traveling a lot, but mostly just enjoying the way a minimal setup makes it easy to collaborate and jump into the flow when inspiration strikes
@lifeformed
Hey! I would be very keen to learn more about your production environment - what sort of tools were most essential to you two while maintaining the creative flow (DAWs, synths, equipment?)
Thank you for the unforgettable memory in the form of the TUNIC soundtrack :)
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I love the Fez OST though. There was a time in TUNIC I remember being explicitly influenced by it. I really liked the warbley sounds of the synths in Fez, and I had that in mind when I made Snowmelt:
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For example, to make the first minute of Subterra, I played hundreds of variations of some chords on a ukulele and recorded them. Then I layered them together and chopped them up every way I could think of, and glued them together with various effects:
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@alsojanice
I'm glad we learned that, because I'm really happy with how the track turned out. I even got to work in a mysterious piano transition to the ending, something I was inspired by from "To Far Away Times" from Chrono Trigger.
Here's the final track:
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This is one of the cats we sampled, it's the voice of the shopkeeper track in TUNIC.
@tunicgame
Really happy to share my chat with
@lifeformed
and
@alsojanice
about their epic OST for
@tunicgame
from
@FinjiCo
They sampled the sounds in their neighborhood, including some adorable stray cats. It's here and in all the podcast places:
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.
@alsojanice
and I are giving a talk about composing music for
@tunicgame
at the Taipei Game Developers Forum on July 20:
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@alsojanice
We learned that in a collaboration, as long as we trusted and respected each other, we should learn to let go and let the other person drive for a bit if they feel confident about something.
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Tomorrow,
@alsojanice
and I will be giving a talk at the Taipei Game Developers Forum, about composing music in TUNIC:
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Our main tools on the TUNIC soundtrack were reduced to mostly two things: a fun, cheap, expressive midi controller (casiotone keyboard), and a cute compact field recorder (sony pcm m10)
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Remember to Remember and Forget to Forget came much later - we wanted to have tracks that could seamlessly crossfade when going to the West Overworld and into indoor areas. In Forget to Forget, during that breakdown, the melody is played by a cool bird we recorded in Taipei 🐦
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Oops! I meant "Memories of Memories" was the first track. I keep getting the names mixed up
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So far it seems like any of the options that might potentially do that (but probably don't) also take a significant royalty cut.
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we did a lot of recording of everyday life around us, as well as various acoustic instruments that we obtained here: a guzheng (zither), xiao (flute), zhonghu (stringed instrument), piano, guitar, toy ukulele, etc
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@alsojanice
I had a lot of concept work that I grew attached to. But
@alsojanice
had much stronger ideas for the melody. I had trouble letting go, because the concepts represented an emotional culmination of so much work. But looking back now I see clearly that my concepts were not great lol
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check out janice's new album:
it's a collage of sounds recorded in taipei while we were working on Tunic and afterwards
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@alsojanice
99% of the time, we are pretty much in sync and find a good balance playing to each others' strengths. But this was the main theme and we each had so many personal ideas of how it should be.
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I was worried it'd be too dynamic for an environmental track but after tweaking the production of the melody there it ended up being a break from repetition.
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@TomasPalazzi
@alsojanice
Thanks! Unfortunately there didn't end up being many options for us. We submitted a counter claim to our distributor and waited two weeks. We also had a lawyer try to talk to them to move things along. We will post more details about the process soon, once we collect our thoughts
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@alsojanice
More info on Memories of Memories here:
Thank you :) Forget to Forget was the very first track I made for TUNIC. I was listening to a lot of deep house back then, and I couldn't resist adding in the low-pass breakdown at the 3 min mark.
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@MDZ_jimmY
Oh no, I'm sorry, this is a known issue that I am trying to fix. I switched music distributors and they screwed something up and put Content ID on everything. It should be resolved soon. If you send me the video URLs I can fix them manually for now.
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@DoesBoKnow
@alsojanice
1) I won't say yet, it might be spoilery!
2) We're working on making it Twitch-compatible
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@Javtastrophe
Thank you!
We recorded the chirp of a bird in the mountains at night, and used that voice itself as the instrument in the melody.
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@RetroTimeTodd
@alsojanice
Nothing announced yet. If there is enough interest I can look into it.
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@Elca_Gaming
Hi, this is Lifeformed, composer of the Dustforce soundtrack. These copyright claims are a mistake, I'm working to get that fixed asap. Meanwhile, if you send me the Youtube URLs with issues I can manually fix them for now. Email me at lifeformed
@gmail
.com
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@UltimuShadow
It's fitting that it's hard to recall the names about remembering forgotten memories
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@Elijah_Makar_
Are you referring to the bell sounds? That was from a recording of us hitting various pots and pans in our kitchen. I think that one was a mixing bowl, which we pitched up and modified.
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@RespawnShow
@alsojanice
@tunicgame
Thanks, it was great talking to you! Here's one of the cats we sampled:
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@diaperlalafell
Here's some more info:
Recently I received a threat on Messenger from a random person, saying they would take down my music. They made a simple DMCA claim and now everything's being removed from all streaming services. Janice and I are working hard to get things back online, but no definite answers yet
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@HubertGrossin
@alsojanice
@tunicgame
It should be available eventually, but there's nothing concrete to be announced yet!
Thank you for the kind words.
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@_RetroJay10
thanks :) yeah, I wish platforms took false claims much more seriously. they don't provide enough information about the claimants or have tools to report them.
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@TomasPalazzi
I use separate reverb on each element so I can fine tune them, and I try to keep their main freqs distinct from other things. I also like to use sidechain compression to "cut through" the reverb tails. Also a bunch of manual automation edits can be very effective, albeit tedious
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@GoldianTheOwl
Yes, each variation was cut up and layered and rearranged. There were a lot of them!
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@whY2F0
Mostly just the ones that came with Ableton. I used Granulator II a lot although it was really buggy.
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@moreclinton
@HarrisFoster
@tunicgame
I'm not sure what happened, but I suspect this would be an issue that'd have to be fixed from our end (the music side of things), so if you could loop me into those emails with the info then I can take a look as well.
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@moreclinton
@alsojanice
@tiktok_us
This shouldn't happen, I'm looking into it now. Can you send me more information about what happened, including a link to the video and information on the claim itself.
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@SkryahExists
You can definitely use my music like before, what happened was a glitch with a distributor. Could you look up exactly what day/time you received the claim? I want to make sure this is 100% over.
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@_RetroJay10
Thanks for the info. It's so hard figuring out who's doing it! Sorry for the troubles
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@ylai_djinn
@tunicgame
Eventually! No concrete plans yet, but it will be in the works at some point.
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@_RetroJay10
Sorry, I missed this message. I'm trying to figure this one out. Is there any more information in the claim about who is claiming it?
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@MDZ_jimmY
Yep I hope it will all be resolved very soon. I'll let you know when it's done.
Sorry for the trouble!
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@CatShapedDonut
@alsojanice
It gives you access to download high quality audio files of the soundtrack (MP3 or lossless FLAC)
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