i get that— who they hang with is their personal business, and we can't really tell them what to do. but that doesn't mean our feelings aren't valid. it's just disappointing, and it sucks to know na gano'n pa rin pala.
My stand since July 2023 is still my stand until now. Kung ‘di nyo keri, well kayo yan. Pero, yeah, I am quite feel betrayed. Personal feelings ko ‘to kaya ‘wag nyong idismiss. And yes, hindi ‘to magagamot ng tl cleanse nyo. Or baka damage control yan? Lol.
real talk— i'm a huge fan and all, but I'm not afraid to stop stanning if it comes down to it. At the end of the day, i know my values, and morals. and why would I waste my energy supporting people who clearly don't have the same principles as me?
same, as a PUPian na napanood sila during PUP Pride, parang ako na lang nahiya dahil medyo hindi talaga okay ang condition ng place— mainit, at masikip (dahil maraming tao)
As someone who has worked with BINI first-hand for PUP Pride, this isn’t like them at all. At the time, the university did not support us for the event so we had to make do with what we have. Hindi sila nagreklamo sa food, even sa make-shift room nila kasi walang proper rooms
@ompongski
so by that rule, the 3rd seed who lost to the 2nd seed would indeed be awarded 3rd place, because they were ranked 3rd among the final four teams originally.
YES. when
#BINI
prominently market themselves as voices for women empowerment— they've effectively placed themselves on those "pedestals" through self-applied branding 🤷♀️
“do not put ppop idols in a pedestal” pedestals that they made themselves. advocacies they used as a brandings. advocacies their fans firmly believed they uphold. so yes, your kpop arguments do not work on ppop.
@khizkee
@Wild_Shiba
@rhys_miguel
@patrickquiroz_
victim blaming amp. Sa tingin mo may taong gustong sabihin na he was harassed and molested, tapos hindi totoo? kaya maraming takot sabihin na victim sila, dahil sa mindset ng ma katulad mo. Lol
yes,
@BINI_ph
stick to just being bubblegum pop artists creating lightweight music until u can get fully aligned with the ethical expectations you've set for yourselves.
hot take but the least they can do is not mention any women empowerment in their interviews since we all know they cannot really stick to it
let's stick to making bubblegum pop songs na lang
i understand the perspective of not wanting to make assumptions based on guilt by association. however, I respectfully disagree with dismissing all concerns over their affiliations as a logical fallacy.
This is guilt by association and that is not a pleasant route to go to.
It is a logical fallacy that says that the properties of one thing must apply to another if they belong to the same group.
THREAD.
as [influential] public figures, their associations carry implications whether intended or not. it's naive to think their associations— exist in a vacuum without signaling broader complicity, or blurred moral lines. hindi mo gets eh.
thats their private life and you have no say in it. ppl like you na nalamon na ng internet would never get it until someone close to you did something bad and your first instinct is to not let them go but stay and pangaralan sila. like i said, oo theyre hanging out with them but
let's discuss! there has to be a line drawn. but I don't think that means dropping them entirely either— i mean their music. makikinig pa rin— sa music nila. but making future support contingent after this lapse seems prudent to me.
genuine question, since most likely wala na tayong ibang makukuha kundi yung statement na yun 😵💫, pano niyo iaapproach yung pagsuporta niyo ngayon ?
ulit, genuine question, not looking for fights but answers (again my cc is open)
right 😅 based on their unbothered energy, it clearly registers as just another blip of outrage to be weathered— it's an incredibly hard realization that the pedestals they marketed themselves upon were always that much more paper-thin.
point kasi if they're still friends with them or not, this is the 2nd time and we got a disclosure of it or so we thought idk, kaya ganyan feelings of a lot of blooms, mga one month old stans pls check again your facts, nawawala na sa plot
right. they knew the stakes and still opted to stay entangled regardless. so while they may indeed be visibly stressed, or saddened by the fallout, that's a reality they willingly opened themselves up to through their actions. nangg-guilt trip pa iba, lol
true talaga, off din sakin yung “the eyes they never lie” tweets
lol like gets stressed sila and sad pero sila naglagay sa sarili nila sa posisyon na yun?? hahaha they chose to remain friends with them even after everything that happened na aware naman sila
weird how some lumots make fun of abe as if this is just about losing or winning games or just vball itself. may we be reminded that mental health is more than that :)
if they're gonna be out here enabling sketchy stuff, or turning a blind eye, that's a deal-breaker for me. i'll gladly unstan and take my energy elsewhere to others who are actually about the things I believe in. ako lang naman 'to, silent supporter 😆
@_wongsterist
I hope u won't experience being hated by many, tipong kahit sa mga taong hindi naman involved, ipapasok 'yung pangalan mo. At sana hindi mo maranasan na insultohin at madamay mga naka-paligid sa 'yo, kahit wala naman silang ginagawang masama 🙂
also guys, sobrang taas kasi ng expectations natin to the point na dapat wala silang off game? Kaya nga sila sumali sa off season tourna para ma-improve sila diba? hindi naman EASY WIN ang mga teams, we won in 4 set nga kahapon eh, given na tayo unang talo ng UST sa SSL.
Them: walang improvement pa rin sila
Walang improvement??? but still undefeated pa rin record nila sa ssl bwahhaha ano ba definition nio ng IMPROVEMENT?? share nio naman para maintindhan ko bat kahit panalo dami nio pa ring reklamo…
bigay natin. 'to kay Mars Alba 🫶 basta maganda ang ball distribution niya, magiging maayos ang laban sa mga susunod. Grabe Leila Cruz, Jolina, Thea, Fifi, at Malaluan 👏 lahat gumagana, at hindi centric- sa isa lang.
#UAAPSeason84
“Di lang naman po kami kung ano-anong team eh, kundi Lady Spiker po kami. So, kailangan namin angatan yung sarili namin and ipakilala ulit kung sino kaming Lady Spikers” - Angel Canino
The maturity of this girl!! Grabe! 👌🏻💚
So excited to see you in
#UAAPSeason85
,
@AngelCanino_
@volleyspecs
for dlsu, dapat madiskarte na setter since may malakas na MB at OHs, may decent libero pa. Focus on defense din, net and floor, since lahat dapat bantayan sa nu.
it reads as the group passive-aggressively giving their fans the cold shoulder in retaliation for the justifiable criticism— baka sabihin na naman ng iba hate ko sila 😆
while their past advocacy work is admirable— that doesn't make them immune to criticism when their current actions directly undermine the principles they've so vocally portrayed themselves. btw, excusing those lapses because of past good deeds is ultimately counterproductive 🤷♀️
it’s saddening that some people are dismissing all the other times that bini upheld their advocacies in the past and are reducing what they do to performative activism just because of their association with their sibling group. i don’t think they deserve that.
@justeeynocampo
ang sabi tuesday or wed this week, so probably naibigay na 'yung line up sa SSL, so baka today na ilabas. Napakadaming eme pa kasi ng ssl
tinanggal mo pa 'yung nagbuhat sa f2 😭 kawawa lang si dawn dahil wa resib line up mo.
OH: Mau, Stalzer
MB: Baron, Maraño/Lacsina
OP: KKD (ganda both offense and defense) !!!
S: KAF
L: Dawn
well wala namang mali na nagh-hope siyang sana nakatanggap 'yung dalawa ng votes, pero sana wala na lang 'yung "happy for her, pero...", kasi ang dating may gusto kang iparating. It should have been worded better, actually.
@Pantropicuntt
we cannot just easily dismiss all concerns by using plausible deniability around how “private” their interactions with problematic figures were. ethical boundaries don't get a total free pass just for happening out of public view 🤷♀️
@VolleyPilipinas
walang floor and net defense, lalo na't powerful na lahat ng teams ngayon: offensively and defensively, hindi na pwedeng isa o dalawa lang scoring machine sa team. Looking on how they're performing, tama lang 'yung standing.
nasa sistema kasi 'yan, kaya 'yung iba mas pinipili na sumali sa team na kahit alam nilang mababangko sila, pipiliin pa rin nila dahil mas may matututunan naman sa sistema. Tapos team effort pa, at hindi isa o dalawa lang ang lalaban 🤭
right. this new wave of consumers, as pointed out, has a "take it or leave it" mentality. attempting to sweep uncomfortable truths under the rug or craft an inauthentic PR spin will likely prove more damaging than productive 🤷♀️
entertainment management companies in the PH should also realize that the audience now thinks differently. consumes differently.
Noon kasi they can twist and turn and mute the narrative lalo sa older generation (including me as an older millennial) —- but this generation has
@protect_charlie
AND the "energy" being directed at them over this isn't coming from a place of hatred, but rather disappointment from fans who expect more from artists they admire and support. given the gender dynamics at play with the specific allegations against memberS of that group.
i actually understand where she's coming from, and acknowledge the points she has made. but i also recognize the concerns raised by others— including the potential for certain arguments to objectify women, such as the "certifiedpussyeater" to prove your sexuality.
@onIysamber
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thank you, tin! for playing for dlsu and F2 💚💛
goodluck to your new journey, we will still support you for whatever your decision is. we love you so muuuch!! 🫶🏼
while it's true that simply associating with someone doesn't inherently mean “endorsing all their actions”, it's also naive to act like associations carry no implications at all, especially for public figures.
i am just scared sa mangyayari next game, the talak and pressure from that coach tapos madadagdagan pa ng pambabash because it's the botr. oh lord give my girl peace 😭
last na 'to, setter talaga ang problema. Buhay ang mga attackers, tapos kahit wala ang main libero, ang ganda ng ginawa ni Maics, tapos ang setting? Sorry pero, grabe
Unang-una dineny mo sa public na hinde kayo tapos ngayon sumawsaw ka sa tea na niloko ka? Sana kung alam ng public na magjowa kayo umpisa pa lang that’s another story di ba?? Kung ano anong issue na kinabit sa mga taong involved pati pamilya nila na nanahimik nadamay. Nkklk!!!
so dismissing critique of their actions as fans completely misses how intentionally they've crafted pedestals themed around social responsibility as a core part of their appeal and marketing. tapos sisihin ang fans bakit ang taas ng tingin sakanila? hahahahaha
@protect_charlie
u make a fair point— they do have long-standing, relationships with that group, and those bonds can't be easily discarded. however, I don't think acknowledging potential ethical issues with who they choose to associate with necessarily equates to "hating" on the girls themselves.
@redc_jade
somehow major adjustment pa rin kasi may iniinda rin si Bjyne, so hindi siya completely okay. Nawala rin mga block touches ni Lei, so need mag-double time ni Jyne and the coaches. Pero laban lang 💚🏹
pero player naman kasi si Angel??? hahahaha (medyo nonsense lang); pero hopefully matalo ng ls lahat ng binanggit mo na school... kasi sabi mo nga, may Canino 🤪🙏
hahahahaha— as public figures, and “role models”, there is [unfortunately] heightened scrutiny, and criticism when their actions seem to contradict the values they purportedly stand for... 🤷♀️
at the end of the day, we can disagree on where those ethical lines should be drawn precisely. but outright rejecting any hint of valid critique feels like willful ignorance of the undeniable implications and impacts their associate carry, whether unintentional or not 🤷♀️
Before you go ahead and tell me to stick with stats, kita naman ng lahat that Eya deserves it still. Sa sets played lang naman sya nalaglag.
Again, Jolens and Angel deserve it too pero wag nyong i-invalidate how deserving Eya is dahil lang lumiit denominator nyo by sets played