@snarkeigh er, her boyfriend plays for 50% of the total audience who are against him?

@hookskat Its as if half of the audience were against her boyfriend eh?

@abc098788 @WilliamMcgibney I thought you were a die hard mythicist and friend of Mr Carrier? what changed your mind if you are happy to talk about it?

@WilliamMcgibney @NewEcclesiastes but what about those people who didnt even get to know about Jesus even existing? How can that work with John 14:6?

@WilliamMcgibney citation? But you refuse to answer my point again. Those in far flung countries who hadn't even heard the word cant then know how to be saved though Jesus - so what happens there?

@NewEcclesiastes @WilliamMcgibney God had an extremely important message where getting it wrong meant his special creations souls were at risk but weirdly allows human frailties of translations from oral Aramaic stories, translated into Koine many decades after to manifest, despite knowing the chaos in advance?

@abc098788 @WilliamMcgibney The exact same conversation happened across, at least, the western world every year now for a couple of a thousand years. But its still a no-show for everyone in those cafe's/camp fires/temples. Spooky that.......

@hookskat @WilliamMcgibney This is the dilemma - Jesus himself was always preaching get yourself right with God in the synoptics..... Paul and John were emphasising Jesus as the key. Not easily reconcilable.

@TTorden @BartEhrman he isnt

@TGrogan268173 @BanjoAtheist As far as we can tell, he never renounced his Catholicism. His first Concorde act was a deal with the Vatican to disband german politics but take over children's education. The SS did have to swear an oath to God & the belt buckles of German soldiers had GOD ON OUR SIDE on it.

@WilliamMcgibney Straw man? The bigger question is why dont we have any extra biblical sources of Jesus virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, or even existing before CE95? Josephus has just 2 mentions of him within a huge 20 volume Magnus Opus of Jewish history? He was the MOST famous Jew yes?

@WilliamMcgibney BTW - I dont think John wrote John - it wouldnt explain the "and we know his testimony is true" line . Its possible that John may have had even multiple authors.

@WilliamMcgibney There may be some either way....... but I think they are on the fringes. Most likely use it to prop up their own belief systems.

@duckduckd90 "flawed study"..... are you so ignorant about what the Templeton projects whole "Raison D'etre" is? which is to prove the bible by engaging fully with modern science head on, and to combat the wacky evangelicals? You are an embarrassment to them.

@duckduckd90 You clearly havent read the study! some were told , some were not so bang goes your theory. What about those who knew nothing about the study? Dont worry answering ... I will expect crickets ....

@ritzyventure @hookskat I tell you something he hasn't done that he promised - end the war in Ukraine - do you Americans just believe any old shit people like him say, elect them and never hold them to account?