Ion Stoica
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Agree DeepSeek is not as good as o1-pro and o3, but I think we need to look at the trends. This is what happened during the last nine months. What will happen in the next nine month if we do not change anything in the structure of the AI ecosystem in the US?
We are definitely not doing a good job in the USA given our resources. However, I am not entirely sure about the last claim. DeepSeek might be as good as o1 if not better, but I don't think it is as good as o1 pro or o3 (based on deep research). Additionally, one little detail about deepseek that doesnt make it amazing is its high hallucination percentage.
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@oidestio You are right that the US has "significantly better models" today, but what about tomorrow? The trends are not reassuring...
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@HY202014 Why? The China's GDP is in the same balpark. And China has demonstrated they can invest long term. Just look at the solar cell industry, electric car batteries, and the electrical market itself.
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To summarize, it is necessary to do all of the above (go fully open source and have a shared infrastructure for researchers) to have a chance to win. Otherwise, if you look at the trends, there is a real chance that open-source will win, but it won’t come from the US.
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