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a (LONG) thread on fat rhaenyra as a fat girl <3
(art credits in alt text & sources at the end!!!)
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im so sick of you fatphobic bitches i hope you get rocked next time you run ur mouth
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GRRM states several times throughout f&b that rhaenyra is stout, thick-waisted, and plump since childhood, and with her being a princess & viserys' only heir it makes perfect sense historically & characterization wise
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DISCLAIMER !!! this has nothing to do with Emma D'Arcy. they're a wonderful actor & a wonderful rhae !!! im not saying i would change the casting, BUT i can't keep pretending like the rampant fatphobia around rhaenyra in the community doesn't bother me
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as one of, if not, the highest ranking women in the world, rhaenyra would literally get anything she wanted, anytime she wanted. during the medieval times, "rich women were more likely to have...food...Sweets, white bread, and fatty meats were much easier to come by with money."
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because of this constant pampering & spoiling. rhae would be accustomed to getting whatever she wants all the time, including food. this is demonstrated again with her father,
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in a series of targ & targ bastard description for Amoka, GRRM says "Pampered from an early age, she was a pudgy girl and a stout woman, with a thick waist and a very large bosom.", in reference to Rhaenyra, which, according to our prior knowledge, makes historical sense
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nicola coughlan !!! ik everyone says her but its true !!! shes the right age & shes just so gorgeous
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"King Viserys loved both his wife and daughter, and hated conflict and contention. He strove all his days to keep the peace between his women, and to please both with gifts and gold and honors." She'd ABSOLUTELY be a spoiled brat, but she'd also only know apologies as gifts
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@duskgumi
gojos so bad im still telling myself hes fine (hes totally fine gege is just building suspense)
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despite what GRRM writes, "plumpness was by no means considered a bad thing in medieval women. Vigarello...sees largeness as the sine qua non of female beauty in early medieval romances." she was as beautiful at 33 as she was at 16 to me & to medieval people ^_^ 💝
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while this is a fantasy, GRRM says the dance of the dragons is based on the Anarchy, a civil war stretching from 1138 to 1153 between England & Normandy. King Henry I wanted to be succeeded by his daughter, Empress Matilda (im related to her!!!)
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if they ever cut their hair its over for me i fear
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but after her fathers death in 1135 the succession was stolen from her by her cousin, Stephen of Blois, and much like Rhaenyra, while she does lose her throne, her son is named heir & goes on to rule for 37 years.
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with food & not lovers. it makes sense that rhaenyra would stress eat to cope with everything going on, as its something she has consistently had access to & brings her comfort, much like we see cersei do with wine
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we also know that rhae likes to indulge in the finer things! "...dressed richly, favoring purple and maroon velvets and golden Myrish lace in intricate patterns. Her bodice often glittered with pearls and diamonds, and there were always rings on her fingers." and bc of this its
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MY FANCASTS !!! starting with...
tess mcmillan, who i rlly like as a younger rhae for nicola coughlan (yk i had to)
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represented your wealth & prosperity. "...only listening to the medieval fat-shamers is oversimplifying...body fat could also be seen as a sign of prosperity, social status, success, and even rulership." rich women, like rhae, would have access to sweets, bread, and fatty meat
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now, let's talk about 12th-century beauty standards ! because of the sheer length of time it has been since the 12th century (800+ years!), there is conflicting information & accounts. however, we can examine the traditional medieval european archetype of beauty. this includes...
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NONE of this is to deny rhaenyra's beauty, bc throughout the book GRRM makes it very clear that she was beautiful "...Rhaenyra Targaryen was a precocious child, bright and bold and beautiful as only one of dragon’s blood can be beautiful."
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as she ages and survives six pregnancies, of course her body changes, GRRM writing "Rhaenyra had a large bosom, but never lost the weight she gained from pregnancies, and she had grown stout and thick of waist at the age of twenty after her third pregnancy."
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this isnt to say that fatphobia didnt exist, and several rulers of the middle ages were criticized for their size, "...Charlemagne himself was noted...as having quite a gut; his descendent Charles the Fat got his appellation for his slothfulness in defending France..."
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this says nothing abt being fat, BUT it also says nothing about being thin. the author argues that "... these basic descriptions appear in nearly all European medieval descriptions of beauty, and thus should be regarded not merely as literary fall-backs but general descriptions"
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in 112 AC she was courted and dueled over by many lord sons, and even after her marriage to laenor she was still lusted after (enter harwin & daemon).
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as we examine fatness vs. thinness in medieval europe, it's a v different conversation than it is now because of one thing in particular, access; peasants didn't have access to the same foods or amounts of foods that the noble class did, which made fatness an enviable trait as it
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comprehensible for her to indulge in food and be a stress eater. in the dying of the dragons - rhaenyra triumphant "Let Daemon slake his hungers where he will,” she [Rhaenyra] is reported to have said, “and we shall do the same." Septon Eustace suggests these hungers are slaked
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what about the sin of gluttony? well, if you were a noble, it didn't really matter. yes, nobles were depicted being gluttonous, thought in medieval times to be the original sin, but more often the poor were depicted as gluttonous bc the nobles had the money to commission the art
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(or not who cares theyre all dead anyway fuck those guys)
"a horse ought to have four qualities also found in comely maidens: a handsome mane, beautiful chest, fine loins, and large buttocks." 😏 (guys this is a joke pls) 🔚
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"Rhaenyra is a whore" "Aegon is rhe true heir bc women cant rule" anyway look at my copy of fire & blood
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@rwy109
words have meanings. aegon is not a "pimp" hes a rapist, a whore, AND an cheater ! all 3 of those words have different meanings and before you reply you should learn them !!!
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sources <3
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rhaenyra in the garden scene with this dress GOD
Evening dress, 1810. England. Victoria & Albert Museum.
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pls go actually read the books these terms come from ppl please. all women, again ALL WOMEN experience comphet because of our society. heterosexuality is not an orientation but a structure
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we dont hate lesbians, read some adrienne rich and come back to me <3
why do you guys hate lesbians so much like genuinely
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i guess its just so interesting to me bc who cares ? im not a serf, so i dont care if rhaes children are bastards bc this isnt real. i do not care if she would have to completely change succession laws in westeros, bc westeros isnt real & neither are their laws.
Great take that sums up all the reasons why I was supporting the greens from the start And a great reminder how almost all those things haven't been mentioned since ep 7 ....
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@arashi_sama_
if you go to each image, there should be alt text with the art credits !!! if not i can send u all of the @/s of them !!! <3
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i feel like the same discourse comes up so often because so many young queers dont know their history & dont actually interact with the community OFFLINE !!! yes bisexual women experience comphet, men even experience comphet. please use google, read a book, and GO OUTSIDE !!!
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happy 29th birthday to my angel boyfriend Lucy Elizabeth Dacus, heres a thread of my favorite pictures of her (^_-)-☆
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comphet describes the social institution that reinforces cisgender and hetero norms by oppressing any deviation from them, since heterosexuality is considered normal. she goes as far to say that straight women can experience comphet too.
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im aware how do i stop
˖⁺ 💌 ⋆ happy BPD awareness month by the way !! i hope you all are very aware.
people with BPD promote yourselves in the comments !! love you all !!
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this is so funny why do yall support feudalism omg 😭😭😭
Great take that sums up all the reasons why I was supporting the greens from the start And a great reminder how almost all those things haven't been mentioned since ep 7 ....
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im so confused ? she was just tired lmao yall r LOSERS 😭🫵
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@ManusCeles
no bc if they do that ill he so mad, they love eachother so much & imo most of the game is abt them and godwin & their relationships !!!
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womp womp
Bisexual with a boyfriend called me dyke yesterday and u expect me to be in community with those people😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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the gag is in the books alicent is 10 years older than rhaenyra but okay
The gag being that Rhaenyra is literally in that exact book picture of Alicent and they're both grown
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@Zakk2240
@Targ_Nation
its not about if she has experience ? its about how she wouldnt just do nothing as her people died, experience or not.
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you clearly have no idea what you'e talking abt.
y’all literally be attracted to anything sweaty and white
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my plants ^_^ (laena & rowena r new) (yes theyre all asoiaf names)
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except most people in the lgbtq+ community use the word gay as an umbrella term...and we didnt "colonize" any lesbian terms we were literally there when they were created & in my mind theyre for anyone who identifies as lesbian or bisexual. everything else here is just bs imo
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both are bisexuals but yes we always make everything abt ourselves & always end up with men !
just a reminder to support non white non american lesbians too
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what does bihet even mean 😭 no nuance in ur minds just rocks i fear
@yeIowskies
They fight so hard for men to be around lesbians. Bihets and men are our oppressors
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im so happy so many people liked my long ass thread bc i have so many ideas to share ;; <333
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@_boydyke
1 girl saying d*ke should not be enough for ALL bisexual people to get called "those people" pls go be active in irl queer spaces and make friends !!! ^_^
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sorry ive been so absent im cooking something crazy (figuring out aunt kays roll recipe, 4th times the charm 💫)
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@n0vastar333
the IMMEDIATE jump to saying bipoc (ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN) people are trying to "cancel" these old/dead white men like...no its just that it was weird & no one talks abt it
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"1 bi girl was mean to me >< i no no wanna let them be sapphic too :("
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@TTammeh72114
@LuvBisexuals
@hesbianbigby
and we are. but people like you act like thats all it is when its not.
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and who do you want me to vote for ? im not voting for a genocider & im not voting for trump either.
if you fuckers don’t go out in vote I swear to GOD it’s on sight. if y’all musty asses can line up in queue for pit at a concert for four days then you can get your asses up and VOTE!
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do yall think i could get away with just wearing weed pasties to pride or will the straights get me for sexualizing children or whatever
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this is so silly i hate eurotrash sm ofc we learn geography maybe ur gf is just stupid 😭😭😭
this is actually embarrassing I'm sorry for yall americans
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okay this is just getting silly now 😭 ellie stop acting high & mighty you like aegon. if you cannot handle a single joke abt a topic the show contains maybe you should not watch the show.
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@fkadaenerys
im think younger rhaenyra (she rlly reminds me of the one illustration), rhaenys, or shiera !!!
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@SremJackSparrow
@bonusduc
@beanieblakey
entitlement is pointing out that white peoples gfms for stupid things like gaming computers get tons of funding, but when black people need actual help, no one cares? wow, i didn't know that meant all black ppl are entitled
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yeah i watch all my anime dubbed bc i like to do other things while watching tv...the world will keep spinning bro i promise
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@freckledbimbo
its so pretty ;; the only reason i dont want to is im regrowing my hair from a buzz !!! i think i wanna wait til its super long again to dye it <3
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getting high thinking of my twitter friends i luv yall
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this is so funny why are you so mad abt other peoples choices that dont effect you at all
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i miss you so much come home the kids miss you van pls
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