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can anyone provide clear, irrefutable evidence of hong seokcheon inviting hj alone to jewel box? so far we have only found the following:
1. he stated in december that hj was one of three men he would predict to be popular in 2024 for his visuals
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2. he liked several of hj’s ig posts
3. on 5/28/24, he stated on an episode of jewel box that he wanted jyp to send ALL of skz to be guests on his show (link, time: 15:39 )
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the clip shown above was referenced here as an invitation to hj only, but he invites all of skz in the clip and does not follow up afterward with any specific statements, so this tweet was intentionally misleading.
this is a common practice of HHJNation and not surprising.
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the 5/28 clip was also presented as a solo invitation in this tweet, but then quickly clarified by this administrator that he invites all of skz in the clip and didn’t single anyone out.
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this is shifting the responsibility for akgaes' vile behavior from the akgaes to the company, and legitimizing them by saying "the company's mistreatment of members justifies akgaes and committing prolonged defamation and cruelty against members of skz" btw
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we've noticed a trend over the last few months that is picking up again, where users will call up flx's livestream apology or his charity work for the purpose of making baseless speculations on what he and the rest of skz must think or believe.
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no further clips, social media posts, or interviews were posted by HHJNation in reference to this tweet showing that seokcheon is waiting for permission from JYPE to bring hj on air alone. if we’re mistaken, please link us to those.
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these tweets referencing that hj has been mentioned by seokcheon and that seokcheon has liked his ig posts, but there are no mentions of specific clear invitations to appear solo on the show, only seokcheon discussing hj’s visuals.
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it appears a narrative is being built off the back of two things: an unverified unreputable internet platform of rumors about the industry, and the desire of many for hj to appear on jewel box whenever possible due to seokcheon speaking highly of him on several occasions.
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this narrative is being perpetuated by the worst flx antis, so it’s important we identify reliable sources outside of only listening to people who despise flx and believe he’s the root of all evil who are saying it’s a stolen schedule without any proof.
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however that alone can’t materialize into a specific solo invitation that can be stolen.
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however we are undertaking a review of his show as well as naver searches to come to an understanding as to the source of this narrative, and the explosive anger being fueled toward flx for supposedly stealing an opportunity no one can yet prove belonged to someone else.
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just like you convince stays you're safe to follow when you follow, like, and retweet multiple akgaes that frequently appear on report accounts, including thynjin and cherryjinnnn, who repeatedly defame flx and other members? lack of reading comprehension aside.
So you want to try and convince me that he has been liking his posts since 2020 and spoke about him in public only to not invite him in the end? If he invited skz as a whole why didnt hyunjin go too since he's clearly interested in him? This thread did nth but prove this fact
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if anyone has clips or interviews that they can provide us that back up the narrative being presented that a specific individual invitation was “stolen” from a single member to appear on jewel box, please send it to our dms as we can’t quickly review every single episode.
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if there is clear evidence an opportunity was officially placed on the table for one member, rejected by JYPE, and given to another member instead, we will update this thread.
otherwise we urge stayville to use critical thinking on this matter and how it’s being presented.
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because there’s a strong desire for hj to receive a fair amount of comeback promotion which he is long overdue to receive, and seokcheon has mentioned him positively, and the show is a good medium for him, many people want him to appear on jewel box.
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this is a great example of how this unverified narrative and the supposition that flx “stole” an appearance has changed the behavior of an OT8 stay who used to acknowledge that the problem is div1.
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weaponizing his religious beliefs when half the group is outspokenly catholic, repeatedly singling him out even for the actions of others, and acknowledging he supports charities who help child victims of genocide while actively attacking him is targeted malice.
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what goes through your mind when you post something like this at all much less to an account for such an important cause
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connecting something real (hj’s mistreatment and lack of schedules) to something unprovable (the invitation narrative started by people who hate flx) is so that they both appear real and make people react emotionally rather than logically, so they don’t question the details.
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this is how irrational akgae narratives based entirely on the hatred of every other member, especially flx, infect the entire fandom. they want the narrative that flx “steals” schedules in the back of stays’ minds so it’s easier to sway them toward being flx’s anti.
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the fact that you interpreted this thread as shade when we repeatedly praised him and stated he’s being mistreated and given a lack of promotion, and simply asked for proof to back up the “stolen invitation” narrative being used to bash his best friend, is telling.
You are a protect account you should be protecting flx not writing a whole a$$ thread shading his group mate which is his dear friend
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if heokcheon repeatedly mentioned flx but brought a different member on, we would be excited for the member who got to appear on the show and who heokcheon himself said on his twitter that he wanted to come, and hope that flx got to go in the future.
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it’s wild that this tweet remains up considering that op has NEVER spoken like this when anyone else’s schedule has gotten posted. it seems op doesn’t mind appearing like an akgae themselves and encouraging an awful narrative to 60k people.
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burner account being utilized solely to anti flx.
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if there is clear evidence an opportunity was officially placed on the table for one member, rejected by JYPE, and given to another member instead, we will update this thread.
otherwise we urge stayville to use critical thinking on this matter and how it’s being presented.
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we made a whole thread asking for someone to back up the dozens of tweets stating a solo invitation was rejected purposefully to send flx instead and that flx committed theft, when they were both invited along with the rest of skz and the host wants them both on.
Still you made a whole thread trying to prove that he didn't invite "hyunjin specifically" when you could just protect flx from akgas but no you are giving a platform to other akgas good job
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this looks like 10 seconds to you? 🤡
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he was shown in the teaser for exactly 0.1 seconds, when Felix was shown all 10.🤡
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this is a dangerous and reckless thing to say without the forethought of how it will be received and who it affects, considering the severity of what akgaes do. thousands of stays get angry over mistreatment against skz members by the company without ever becoming akgaes.
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‼️‼️ puddingjewell’s tweet is deleted but please continue to mass report their account, no one who says something like that should EVER have a platform.
1) 🐥 present at the table - yes
2) was he the one drinking the soda- no
3) is he mercilessly getting crucified by his own fandom, now turned into worse than antis - yes
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when you've spent years reading the things that akgaes say, seeing what they do irl to commit harm against skz members, watching how they behave and how they speak about skz members, you would never say shit like this so flippantly with such a huge platform.
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akges do things like spending over 2 years continuously perpetuating disgusting fake narratives online that members of skz allow themselves to be sexually abused and pimped out to married executives in exchange for popularity. let's not shift responsibility for things like that.
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this is also vague enough and not clearly delineated enough that it may contribute to the spike in hatred against flx today. there are better ways to discuss the connection between akgae activity and company mistreatment/disproportionate work
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it's dangerous and reckless to implicate only flx by name in things that we have no proof of, or make him responsible for the group. flx is not responsible for the thoughts or actions of anyone but himself. his actions can't be used to prove anything about anyone but him.
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if that’s all you took away from this thread, we can’t help you. we’re not reading comprehension teachers. we are OT8 and my fellow admin is a hj ult. 🤷🏽♀️- 🦋
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it’s almost as if dozens of people have been nonstop bashing flx ever since his appearance on jewel box was teased, repeatedly stating it was a stolen job and he took an invitation out of someone else’s hands because he’s a thief and not because he was equally desired!
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his name is the only one mentioned again and again, and he's used as unsubstantiated "proof" of what the entire group must know about the genocide happening in palestine, either to condemn them or to exonerate them. this helps no one and directs focus away from gaza on top of it.
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‼️ please urge these accounts to repost their tweets with censoring, and report. ‼️
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@bokiefan
admins have both examined the image for a few hours now and viewed it with as little bias possible and we agree. although we can’t be 100% sure, it really does not seem based on the place settings and perspective that the cans belong to flx
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well, no! - admins
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update: this account no longer exists. thank you so much for your help!
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burner account being utilized solely to anti flx.
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we suggest you make sure your hands and following are clean before you share thoughts with us that aren’t well developed or based on full comprehension of the source material. - 🌙
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and as of right now, the ONLY things we can 100% be sure of are that he apologized for drinking cc on live because stays were vocalizing in comments and on the fans app that it upset them, and that he cares for the wellbeing of children. that's it. we know nothing else.
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we want equal schedules for every single member throughout each year and comeback rotation. every member deserves to shine and be given rigorous promotion across variety shows. div1 should be asking whatever shows who reach out to take different members on, they are failures.
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there are dozens of tweets asserting flx purposefully and intentionally stole an invitation issued only to hj so we asked for clarification. your insecurity and repeated refusal to read is not our problem.
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using flx's actions to prove things they can't be used to prove is also fruitless and unhelpful. either censor his name, lock your account, or be more mindful about what you say. we're here to protect him, and thus tweets to this effect will be monitored and reported.
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many OT8 stays give this account hit tweets and follows despite them being an obvious flx anti for over a year. please inform stay mutuals if they follow ❗️
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no amount of speculating will prove what any member of skz (including flx) knows about this situation until they use their words to tell us. while you're free to speculate on your platform as you wish, singling a member out and baselessly alleging what they know or feel is wrong.
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we don't know what, if any, further education he's sought on the matter. we don't know what any member of skz knows about this. to say we know for sure what they've learned, feel, or think about something with no proof is inflammatory and may incite aggression toward them.
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you being incapable of basic reading comprehension or understanding nuance is not our problem. hope that helps!
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the tweet has been deleted from the felixssource account before we completed a reporting tweet so it is no longer able to be reported. we will continue to monitor the situation. - 🌙
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that’s the source of almost all their problems with flx: things they’ve fabricated entirely from their own delusions. they’ve spent years making completely fake narratives about why flx gets something or why hj doesn’t get something so they can justify harming flx for it.
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note: this in no way reflects how the admins of this account feel about the genocide (free palestine). this is simply an effort to reduce him being singled out on public platforms and accused alone, by name, of purposefully supporting z!onism. it is incredibly dangerous.
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all of these pictured literally occurred within one day. they spend an insane amount of each day spreading hatred toward LYB.
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in the interim the show runners have repeatedly emphasized how badly they wanted flx there and personally requested his attendance for months btw. they also never talk like this when other members get privileges flx is rarely or never afforded, but let us not talk about that.
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it is possible to criticize or discuss c*ke products being consumed by multiple members without singling out flx, calling only his behavior and morals into question, or maligning his charity work as performative and fake.
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telling hong seokcheon to go to h*ll on his own post is crazy btw
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@night_pink89569
it's sad that you're so biased that a thread repeatedly stating hj needs more promotion, more schedules, and is mistreated by div1 but that people are spreading a false narrative that flx intentionally stole a solo invitation from him is totally incomprehensible to you.
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看到某人說6傻傻的有福氣真是要笑死
整團心眼最多的就是這隻猴
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they had us blocked before we were ever sent their tweets which is very interesting - 🦋
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☁️ we as a fandom must learn to exercise more tact with how we bring the members up by name in any circumstance and with how often we put words in their mouths. it can cause as much harm as whatever good you think it will do. - 🦋
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context on why we feel the current backlash directed at and focused entirely on flx is inappropriate and reckless:
@bokiefan
admins have both examined the image for a few hours now and viewed it with as little bias possible and we agree. although we can’t be 100% sure, it really does not seem based on the place settings and perspective that the cans belong to flx
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he could have c*ke in his styrofoam cup but we can’t know that. it appears the cans belong to the members to either side of him but people are already jumping him and him alone 😐
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not surprising you follow multiple outspoken flx antis and showed up on our post. the mask always slips off eventually.
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even the c-akgaes are speechless?!
Damn you even posted all the traces and proofs here yourself..😅😂 what more do you wanna ask, what more can I say
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