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K-pop fans being close-minded about innovative things but very open-minded about a lack of talent is insane
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ถ้าใครจำคลิปที่เทาปรี้ดได้ ซันนี่เข้าไปช่วยเพื่อนล้มคนแรกเลย คนอื่นๆหลายคนยังแข่งกันต่อ(เสียวเหยียบมาก) เหมือนสุดท้ายแข่งชิงเพลงอันนี้เป็นโมฆะมั้งนะ
เค้าเป็นคนดีมากจริงๆ ทัศนคติดี
อยากให้ซันนี่ถูกรักเยอะๆ 🥹🫶🏻
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I sometimes wonder why people are so bothered by Plave’s success. They are human and came from a small company. They sing and dance live (using motion tracking) well
Is it bcuz you're jealous, or because your favs can't?
It looks real and actually nice
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This somehow blew up, so I would like everyone to know that they're NOT AI. They are REAL HUMANS who perform live, can sing, dance, and produce their songs. They use motion capture for virtuals
Also have trained like idols and come from a startup company
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ประทับใจอันนี้สุด ครั้งแรกเลยมั้งที่เห็นผู้เข้าแข่งขันกล้ายกมือ ถามว่าเกณฑ์การตัดสินคืออะไร ตอนนี้ที่ battle ตัวตัวแล้วมีมี่แพ้แล้วต้องไปอยู่ class B
เค้าเป็นคนดีมากจริงๆ ทัศนคติดี
อยากให้ซันนี่ถูกรักเยอะๆ 🥹🫶🏻
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So? Sehun has a very strong lower register vocal. He harmonizes with others so well and can also sing softly. Also, he’s a rapper.
It’s 2024, I refuse to believe a person who only perceives mediocre high notes as good vocal is serious
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To all quotes who ask 'What's innovative here?'
It's fascinating how kpop fans can appear clueless, while simultaneously dismissing the new concept of virtual Kpop idol hosting a successful real concert
and unable to understand that 'innovative' and 'inventive' are not the same
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@jmngaggedme_
The giggles are from EXO-Ls, FYI. Since it sounds like y’all are thousands of light-years behind, we were mocking them too. While thinking that you did something here, y'all are just unoriginal 😭
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@haitanglwj
Seriously? I wouldn't call anyone who has both stage presence and vocal talent lazy based on a 3-second video of him being flawless from perf ending. BTW this is another vid of him in the same perf, and he is nowhere near lazy
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@hyonceivy
Yeah, that's why we heard them laughing, random pauses while singing. 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ This shows that you didn’t even listen yourself but believed a random source that only circulated in your circle
FYI, outside of your circle they are VERY well known for live vocals
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@barbadensister
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@molxnyxkmj_im
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ค่ะ ตามาตรฐานคุณอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ระหว่างโชว์มันเทียบกับตอนจบโชว์ไม่ได้เลย ปกติเขารีแอคเยอะคือจบ+ท่อนฮุค คลิปนี้ตอนจบทไว้ก็ตบมือยิ้มน่ารักตามปกติค่ะ คำถามคือพอเป็นศลปคุณแล้วอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ควรนอยมั้ยคะ
นี่ไงถึงด่าคนดีเฟ้น บอกหน้านิ่งอยู่แล้ว แล้วตอนนจแสดงทำไมไม่หน้านิ่งล่ะคะ งง ก็ดูยิ้มแย้มมากๆดูไม่เข้าใกล้คำว่าหน้านิ่งเลยหนิ
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@azerokay
@yvessonyeo
It’s live not vdo. Miku is VOCALOID not real human. Plave’s members sang and danced LIVE. They can’t be compared. Maybe go educate yourself on that first
Also, they came from a small company, you expect them to do hologram for their 1st concert?
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มีคนคิดเหมือนกันเยอะ😅 ซันนี่ติดตัวท็อปแทบตลอด แต่เดได้ที่8 แอบแปลกๆ แต่รายการที่ขนาดเสตจsugarได้เซ็นเตอร์ยังตัดจนดูไม่ออกว่าซันนี่เป็น จนฟคต้องทุ่มโหวตให้ได้ออกรายการ101วิทุกอีพี ก็ไม่แปลกใจ😌
ใครทันช่วงที่ซันนี่แข่งProduce101china บ้าง สปีชที่จริงใจ ไม่ได้ซ้อมกล่าวขอบคุณ เพราะคิดว่าตัวเองคงไม่ชนะ จริงๆน้องคือตัวเต็งคนนึง แต่ช่วงที่แข่งก็มีดราม่าถาโถมเข้ามาตลอด แต่สุดท้ายก็ได้เดบิวต์ 🥹🫶🏻
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Same clips every time is so pathetic. First one is proven technical difficulties.
Second one is him singing+ dancing(the line is literally don’t that different) with mic that you can barely him
Third one is so brainwashed move of you. He’s an mc that’s NOT OFFICIAL PERF
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@yeeunsbear
@yvessonyeo
OMG WDYM human can….talk !? because they’re real human using motion tracking just like many animated movies and vtuber. It’s not that hard to understand grandma
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@haitanglwj
@jjangxings
Trying to use this pic as a joke is corny considering the fact that you are trying to push the narrative that man shouldn’t cry. Fyi he cried because of a sudden notice + need to cancel everything including his concert and group comeback, not just because he didn't want to enlist
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@RichBTSi_2
How is this related? I personally think that if idol is god-tier at singing nobody gonna dare to say anything about their dance
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@dulcejisoo
Getting mad for no reason 😭😭😭😭 others said worse things, you just selecting who you wanna hate
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@LumiDalso
Miku is a vocaloid using software to generate voice but PLAVE is real-human-idols who sing and dance live using motion capture. They’re different.
Also, Innovative and Inventive are definitely different.
LOL, I guess
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@wootteoyum
They are humans….who sing and dance LIVE in their concert using motion capture. Your ability to understand the point is negative atp😭
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Hater might not believe because it’s too good for their standards and they are not used to it😭 you can hear breathing and mic movements in some parts
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It's also amusing to me how K-pop fans can act clueless, questioning 'What's innovative here?' yet at the same time, dismiss the concept of a virtual K-pop idol having a real successful concert.
innovative and inventive are not the same thing
K-pop fans being close-minded about innovative things but very open-minded about a lack of talent is insane
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ไปตามช่อง sunneefcthailand ในตตด่วนๆนะคะ เขาตัดดีมากดูเพลินแต่ละอัน แบบไม่เบื่อเลย💗 ให้เพิ่มคลิปดีๆในทลคุณ!
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if talk like a cult, walk like a cult, then it’s a cult
that fandom has spread so many lies about exo, accusing them of being bullies and nasty people…. and the way they collectively believe it and tell others and make them believe too it is insane to me. cuz how is one of the nicest groups in kpop constantly accused to being evil?
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and Plave still thriving😭😭😭😭
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@mercurialm4rs
Who exactly are you talking about? 😭 Also, they definitely are NOT LIP SYNCING. Maybe they’re too good that you can't differentiate, or perhaps you're not used to great vocals
Here's a video from Killing Voice where idols sing LIVE and CANNOT lip-sync
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@miisharonn
รีแอคของ นจ ตอนลงเสตจ กับรีแอคของผักคือเริ่มโชว์ มันก็ต้องต่างกันอยู่แล้ว ศลปเราหน้านิ่งมากอยู่แล้ว ไปดูคลิปที่รีแอคอื่นๆก็จะยิ้มนิดๆเน้นปรบมือ(ซึ่งในนี้ก็ปรบ) แต่โดนหาว่าแอ๊บตบมือยิ้มแหย ลืมรากไอดอล คือ??????? นอยเหมือนกันค่า
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@bts_amiunicorn
Aside from the pro-military part and the attempted lawsuit joke, did you choose the wrong vid or smth? It's actually really good
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@GoldenBubblygum
- Crying is not wrong. He cried because of the sudden notice and needed to cancel everything including his very own first physical concert
- They didn’t delayed four times (it’s your fandom brainwashing and spreading this false info)
- He’s in public service, suga will be as well
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8k of pro-military and obsessed second fandom!
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Just to be clear, my goal is not to force ppl to stan Plave
I want ppl to realize that if it’s not your cup of tea, just move on instead of hating on them.
Mental health is a big issue in the K-pop community, so why do Plave, real talented humans, need to face this toxicity?
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They know the lore atp. My man teleported!
you don't think they check his name at the border before letting him pass through? have you ever had a single thought in your entire life? 💀
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Why are y'all coming at me? I'm just saying that your group has a very strong vocal along with dragging the member! 🥺 Boo hoo
Loser moves. Saying sth, when people started to disagree, gaslighting people as if you didn't mean it + blaming others' comprehension skills to cover up
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@Wonhoballsack
@yvessonyeo
Mind you, this person has 'let’s spread kindness' in bio 💀
Downplaying idols who have talents performing live with the use of technology to show them as 'some cartoon' might be a little hypocritical move of you
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@AY4YAK4
They are idols after all. Holding a successful concert would definitely be one of their dreams. You can literally say that to every idol just to have an online concert, but I don’t think it’s the same. FYI, they actually sing and dance and are able to see and interact with fans
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@ghostinwhit
Op talking about “kpop stans” are so used to everything being pre recorded so ppl just wanna say that they’re in fact not. What’s wrong with that?
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@joonbubles
Delusional at its peak. That's what you guys are collectively brainwashed to believe. The fact that they are top vocalists and respected by many idols and singers, and you still say 💩 like this
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@neovulture_
Let’s be real count the amount of comebacks + promos we got for the past years and compare to your favs. Getting comebacks + promo, that’s how to get millions albums. One of the reasons we’re mad at the company is they literally forced exo to get out of the top by lack of promo
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@woobwoob1616
Do not. They’re enjoying their success in their career and still able to maintain their privacy. I feel more sorry for 13 yo who felt the need to get veneers or plastic surgery at that young age for the sake of visuals.
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@selfproduceboi
@osh_station
Looked at the profile. Sigh. Here we go again😪
it was yerin vs reality. she started sayin their dance was harder and different unlike other ggs and many people there tried to humble her but she kept going until another girlgroup member spoke out
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@shynamjoon
We NEVER like the company💋. Your fandom is the most unbearable don’t make it twisted. Even this topic has nothing related to your fav but you bring them up too. Also, Karma this karma that blah blah boring only you guys saying those
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@vivizfan
Everything's wrong. This fandom's cleverness and love for fake news shows. He's never evaded military service. The military can only called bcuz he'd already submitted + health checked, worked in public service due to injury, like many others. He has weekends and can do anything
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@miisharonn
อ้าว มาเล่นบทเหยื่ออยู่นี่นิเองตำรวจหน้า ตอบเราก่อนสิคะ พยายามจะลากประเด็นที่ไม่เกี่ยวมา ใส่คำว่าแอคเก่าใครไม่รู้เหมาๆไว้ก่อนเผื่อมันจะโยงมาเกี่ยวกับเรื่องตอนนี้งี้หรอ
ค่ะ ตามาตรฐานคุณอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ระหว่างโชว์มันเทียบกับตอนจบโชว์ไม่ได้เลย ปกติเขารีแอคเยอะคือจบ+ท่อนฮุค คลิปนี้ตอนจบทไว้ก็ตบมือยิ้มน่ารักตามปกติค่ะ คำถามคือพอเป็นศลปคุณแล้วอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ควรนอยมั้ยคะ
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Shaming someone for using pimple patches is pathetic. Even your idols use them.
Plus, it’s edited tears on his face, he was just giggling with fansites
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@YOONGIMARRYME17
@bts_amiunicorn
OMG I'm sorry to hear that something went wrong with your ears. I hope that one day you will be able to hear this masterpiece😢 (this is live vocal in the full ver you can hear they laughs, pauses, and jokes during the whole perf)
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Which means that😭😭😭 If you see everyone calling him attractive, and you care enough to mention that you don't see it, maybe your standards suck idk
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1 bookmark from a lewser who need to save these clips to use for time like this because it’s too difficult to search for his perf that’s not 🔥
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@Kim_Slayhyung
Not you crying abt likes😭you are gaslighting abt last day thing. Have you ever seen a pic when ppl entered military? It’s not like you can just walk in. After submitting doc, then wait for the military will call you/ give the enlist date. In this case there was a change in date.
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for context, he’s 16 in 2013,
GROWL, banger of the century, released that year😭
and of course brainwashed fans will believe it
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@Tanipuff
LIE OF THE HISTORY! Then we can say the same thing to you if you choose to believe that😭
If you tell me the reason for dragging us back, we can definitely find instances where you've dragged before
And it goes in circles, so don’t use “just” as an excuse."
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Imagine saying that a Christmas song would not charting as high after Christmas and thinking it’s an AHA moment😭😭😭😭😭
Don’t forget to tell this groundbreaking observation to Mariah Carey
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Coming from the loudest fandom saying these things(that actually wrong)😭😭😭 nobody is breaking any rules
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@BouaziziHyba
@jinsbabie_
We are actually following your logic because you guys have been saying this to us since forever
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@onliwonauf
I like Plave’s music(they also composed and choreographed their songs) If you're not intrigued by their music, that's totally okay, just personal preference. But don't mock them as if they're not real humans
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คลิปเต็มค่ะะ มีทั้งจังหวะจอยและจังหวะนิ่ง แต่คือตอนจบก็ปรบมือให้ตามปกติ👏🏼 ถ้าดูแค่บางช่วงมันก็นิ่งบ้าง ไม่แปลกอยู่แล้วที่จะพักบ้าง💓
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@miisharonn
รีแอคของนจ “ตอนลงเสตจ” กับรีแอคของผัก “ระหว่างการแสดง” ตอนลงเสตจก็ตบมือแสดงความยินดีอยู่แล้วส่วนใหญ่คนรีแอคเยอะช่วงนั้น ส่วนระหว่างการแสดงรีแอคน้อยกว่าอยู่แล้ว คือศลปเราตบมือให้ด้วย ศลปตัวเองไม่มีจังหวะนิ่งเลยใช่ไหมคะเวลาดูโชว์? หน้านิ่งอยู่แล้วจริงๆค่า
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แฟชั่นมาร์คต้วนนับวันยิ่ง...555555555555 #ความฟักทองอเมริกัน
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@Valentine_with_
ฮัฟ ไม่ลืมเลยเพราะจำแต่ซีนที่ตัวเองโดน ไม่ว่าอะไรจะเกิดขึ้น บอกด้อมอื่นเริ่มก่อนตลอดเลย ด้อมเตงก็dead threatตั้งแต่พี่หมินเข้ากรมเลยงับ อยู่ฝั่งไหนก็จะเห็นว่าฝั่งอื่นเริ่มก่อนเป็นธรรมดา แต่ถ้าใช้เหตุผลนี้หาเรื่ิองศลปก็จะวนลูปไปเรื่อยๆ มาโควทกันเพราะด้อมเตงสะกดจิตหมู่เฟคนิวส์ค้าฟ
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@miisharonn
ลองเป็นคนที่คุณติ่งดู แล้วยังไงนะคะ
ค่ะ ตามาตรฐานคุณอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ระหว่างโชว์มันเทียบกับตอนจบโชว์ไม่ได้เลย ปกติเขารีแอคเยอะคือจบ+ท่อนฮุค คลิปนี้ตอนจบทไว้ก็ตบมือยิ้มน่ารักตามปกติค่ะ คำถามคือพอเป็นศลปคุณแล้วอันนี้นิ่งมั้ยคะ ควรนอยมั้ยคะ
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He was not crying and in fact he was giggling with fansites. If you liked this tweet because of that, you’re stupid and enjoyed spreading lies
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@th0tnsp1cy
It’s literally stated in the official announcement. Yall are the one who made up info and spread misinformation about evading stuff(as if it wouldn’t be a big news in sk if it’s true)
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@agitsasne
To watch the performance of their beloved idols singing and dancing LIVE using motion tracking* YES.
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@appIepiesucks
You clearly don’t understand the definition of AI. AI or Artificial intelligence is the simulation of human intelligence processes by machines
BUT Plave’s virtuals/graphics are created by staffs by tracking the member’s movement and using their real voice.
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@yvessonyeo
Plave’s members are all humans who sang and dance LIVE using motion tracking not AI.
They came from a small company, actually trained and produced their own songs.
Some of you guys sound like boomers hating on tech
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@jjjksbitch
They are NOT AI. Someone reached their daily reading limit here😭
They’re in fact singing and dancing live. Also, composed and choreographed their songs!
Real humans with talent
This somehow blew up, so I would like everyone to know that they're NOT AI. They are REAL HUMANS who perform live, can sing, dance, and produce their songs. They use motion capture for virtuals
Also have trained like idols and come from a startup company
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เห็นข่าว ยายแก่ๆ ป้าเกษียณ โดนหมดตัว ไม่สามารถว่าเขาได้ลงจริงๆ ด่าควาย ด่าโง่เลยหรอ ทั้งๆที่เขาคือเหยี่อนะ ประเทศอื่นก็มีนะที่โดนแบบนี้ แต่เพิ่งเคยเห็นที่ด่าเหยื่อแรงๆแบบนี้ หลายๆคนเขาไม่รู้จริงๆแล้วโดนจนหมดตัวอ่ะ
โทษนะขอพูดอะไรแรงๆ หน่อย คนที่บอกว่ารัฐไม่ทำอะไรเลยกะพวกแฮคมือถือหลอกเอาตังนี่คือไร อีแอปธนาคารทำแม่งทุกอย่างละ ตรวจแคปจอ ตรวจแอป accessibility บลาๆ แน่นหนามากจนพวกกูลำบากชิบหายจะแคปจอก็ยังไม่ได้เนี่ย มีแต่พวกมึงที่เอาแต่โทษรัฐ โทษตัวเองก่อนมั้ยไปเชื่ออีพวกควายๆ
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@appIepiesucks
@kwillpleasedont
so WHAT exactly 😭 go girl give us no proofs just assume they're AI bcuz they're from a small company? It’s a startup game-based company that didn't expect Plave to succeed this fast, indicating the group planned with a certain amount of funds
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After reading the reply, this person just realized that Plave’s members are real humans. Feel free to read this like one of those comic jokes
ppl would normally actually know about something before telling someone to stfu but I digress
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@itsmyworldaespa
If virtual idols performing live using motion tracking to create an actual concert is not innovative to you, why so against it? Is it that normal why bother?
What's that going to do about le sserafim?
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Hunting down a man from his voice is crazy😭 what crazier is you guys did this hunting down for a while but when your favs will do the same thing, you’re celebrating
We would get more than voice if he didn’t get that short sudden notice😌
@zonequalbts
This too kai enlisted in march but still his voice appeared an official exo album promo in july where everyone would earn money for it this year
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That’s why I’m sure that when people dragging their talents, it's just because they've been brainwashed to believe that way. There's no way anyone watching their performances could genuinely say these guys have no talent. I feels perfectly fine to defend them, knowing im right🤺
sorry i love exo so much 😭 not even in a heavy kpop stan way but their talent is impeccable and that will always be undeniable like wow
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Sorry, this makes me laugh 😭😭😭 You see what from this blurry pic exactly?
You guys claim HD photos of our group as your favs all the time, and suddenly you can see emotions through this pixelated pic?👁️👁️
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กระแส cool tone มันแรงมากกก ส่วนใหญ่เชียร์โทนชมพูม่วงทั้งนั้น เหมือนช่วง naked heat มาใหม่ คนเชียร์ตาส้ม warm toneหมด
ตำรวจคูลโทน วอร์มโทน เสร่อสุดละ จริง ๆ คนแต่งอยากแต่ง อยากลองแบบไหน ก็ทำเหอะ แต่งตามใจฉัน
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@pastelsooya
They are real humans wearing motion capture suits so they actually cried at that moment. They also sang, and danced LIVE.
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@Kim_Slayhyung
Sorry to assume that you would understand. There was a recent change of date which stated in the official announcement. Basically, they knew the date(not bday) that’s why they prepared cb but there’s a sudden change. I don’t think sm would spent any money on cb if they knew b4
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@mdh3nwjns
@hwrngmelldansen
@yvessonyeo
OMG THIS IS WHY😭 maybe it is too hard for you to understand that ppl there to LISTEN and WATCH their fav idols LIVE performing (using motion tracking)?
Me wait for your brain to fully developed :
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Joined in 2021 acc. And I just know you didn’t ask ppl from that time keep it cute honey bee
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This line is about “all Asians look the same” stereotype especially how SEAs are often mistaken for East Asians. You can clearly see in the scene that all of them look almost identical.
People who think this line is bad just don't understand it or not SEA
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Forced hates are crazy😭 coming for their looks? srsly
@zonequalbts
I'm crying, they look like hags here too.. like just disband already. Y'all are already broke and your fans are as miserable as you😭
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@endedbynugu
But you're a big liar here, though. The 'sniffer' thing is an edited reverse clip, and this is Kai crying while reading a heartfelt fan's message.
Both fake news have been sharing around by your fandom. Brainwashed much?
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@AshSmithBTS20
@popbaised
And the first statement is still a fact: He's the MC, had no plans to perform, and the staff didn't give him a mic.
But you guys want to push the narrative that he used to lip-sync sooo badly.
Your own little scenario is not happening now. It's you guys who did nasty things
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@yakbok_ter
เรื่องนั้นมันไม่จริงค่า เขาพูดกันปากแฉะ คนกระจายข่าวก็มาจากด้อมอื่น ข่าวไม่มีมูลรีบกระจาย แต่พอมาแก้ปุ๊ปหูดับหนีทันที
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@poeticmingii
virtual idol having a real life concert in the kpop world.
you said “little human involvement” while I literally said they are real humans singing and dancing LIVE and use motion capture to show us virtually and those also designed by humans.
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