Donna Zuckerberg
@donnazuck
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Writer, editor, recovering academic. Author of "Not All Dead White Men" ( @Harvard_Press , October 2018). Formerly: Editor-in-chief of @eidolon_journal . She/her.
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Can't wait to share the story of how my ex and I built a beautiful queer family while quoting Homer and Sophocles all the time. For all the trolls who thought the end of
@eidolon_journal
(miss u ❤️) meant I was done with woke Classics bullshit - think again.
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just realized Diogenes the Cynic and Oscar the Grouch are functionally identical
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Dear geniuses responding to the release of my book *about online misogyny* by tweeting that I’ll never be more than some guy’s sister: wow, you sure showed me
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damn boy are you the Augean stables? because it would take two rivers to wash away your bullshit
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this is art, no better classics tweet has ever existed
Can't believe the beggining of Emily Wilson's translation of The Odyssey:
“Yass Queen, tw: rage, sing the rage of Pelias’ son Achilles (he/him),
Problematic, how it gave the People of Greekdom trauma
And cancelled many heroes who had ableist tweets"
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some news. thank you to everyone for an amazing 5.5 years
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recent articles in conservative publications Quillette, Breitbart, and The New Criterion make it clear that conservatives are feeling threatened by initiatives to make Classics a more diverse and inclusive field
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So all classicists are going to refer to GoT S8 E3 as “the Arya-steia”, right?
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my book NOT ALL DEAD WHITE MEN is out today!
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My book "Not All Dead White Men: Classics and Misogyny in the Digital Age" is available for preorder! Official release on October 8.
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my book is coming out in paperback in October! All the better to teach it with. Thanks to
@Harvard_Press
for their commitment to publishing affordable scholarly books. You can preorder now:
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"We state in the strongest terms not only that the ancient Latin- and Greek-speaking world was always diverse, multi-ethnic, and multi-racial, but that the field of Classical Studies depends in every way upon diversity and inclusivity" ❤️❤️❤️
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it me
Welcoming Lego Dr.
@donnazuck
to the
@LegoClassicists
family. Editor in Chief of
@eidolon_journal
& author of Not All Dead White Men, Zuckerberg redefines the way we approach classics & like
@wmarybeard
&
@profmcscott
sees the direct relevance of the ancient world in modern life.
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all the classicists dunking on this guy for knowing no Greek - be nice, it's not like he has any reading comprehension of English to begin with
Eidolon, the now-defunct foundation started by Donna Zuckerberg to promote wokeness in the study of Greek and Roman literature, praised Wilson for deliberately changing the meaning of passages through feminist translation.
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in which I get extremely real
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Woke up to an email telling me I “deserve life in Guantanamo for destroying academia” so today’s “The Classical is Political” panel at
@HellenicStudies
should be lit
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Damn boy, are you Jason, because you’re mediocre as hell but are taking credit for the work of a bunch of exceptional women
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My book is out in paperback today! Thank you to all of my readers, including the hate-readers, I love you all
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this is extremely my jam
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Look what arrived in the mail for me! Loving the slightly Art Deco cover design
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Amazing how
@eidolon_journal
managed to reach the 100-day mark without publishing any articles by noted proponents of eugenics
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love to see people defending the org that refused to issue a statement of support when I was getting death threats unless I published a dialogue by my cofounder that described the alt-right as "intellectually interesting"
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the current quest in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey requires me to get Aristophanes and Euripides to stop joking with each other and get drunk, and my dissertation feels very seen right now
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a fun Stoic life hack I thought of today is that when something frustrates you, you can imagine the smug, pompous letter Seneca would have written about how that thing was no big deal, and your frustration will magically disappear and be replaced by rage
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a few months ago, I said that we were aiming for this year to have at least 70% of our writers be women and 20% POC. as the academic year comes to a close, we're at 71.8% women and 20.5% POC
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thrilled and honored to learn that NOT ALL DEAD WHITE MEN is a finalist in the Classics subject category of the 2019 PROSE awards!
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Classical writers who would have been amazing on Twitter:
1) Martial, obviously 2) Euripides 3) Thucydides, but only for threads?
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the worst part of the end of
@eidolon_journal
is that Antigone is now the main online publication for people to pitch public-facing classics-related essays. the best part is that we don't have to exhaust ourselves reacting to every gross thing that they do
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fun fact: Oedipus actually defeated the Sphinx by mansplaining riddles until she died of exasperation (Fabre c.1807)
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ladies, if he
-doesn't respond to your texts
-is a bulleted list that goes in an unexpected direction
he's not your man, he's a meme whose appeal I really don't understand
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it turns out that no matter how often you explain that misogyny is a system that upholds patriarchy by punishing women who fail to conform, people will always claim that you’re basically just the guy from Monty Python shouting “help, help, I’m being repressed”
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I wrote about Rachel Fulton Brown and why saying "well, actually" to white supremacists never, ever works:
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Today
@eidolon_journal
reached 1,000,000 hits! Not bad for a niche interest publication with longform content. Thanks to our writers and readers for getting us to this milestone! 🍾🥂
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Being trolled affects me a lot less after a few months of frequent exposure to my six-year-old’s casually devastating observations
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is it me or is this less "the wrath of achilles" than "achilles remembers he left his stove on" (Benouville 1847)
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today marks three years since the publication of this article. I got a lot of pushback at the time, but from my perspective now I think my assessment of the challenges of being a classicist under Trump holds up pretty well:
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my latest editorial (and last thing we publish before our August hiatus) is about how painful and difficult it is to read Euripides' Trojan Women in the era of family separation:
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dress like Euripides
live like Aeschylus
act like Sophocles
laugh like Aristophanes
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this is just a really wonderful piece of writing that I now want to direct every single bro in my myth classes who talks about Campbell to
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one year ago today,
@eidolon_journal
relaunched with an explicitly progressive feminist vision. I'm so proud of what we've done, and there's so much more to come!
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Why is it that Assassin’s Creed will let you seduce half of Greece but is too prudish to include phalloi in comic costumes
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today on
@eidolon_journal
,
@MiamiOHClassics
argues that "we cannot effectively combat today’s use of Greece and Rome by white nationalists until we admit our own role in bringing such ideology about"
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this week on
@eidolon_journal
, we're running a special issue on papyrus thefts and what they mean for/about our field:
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dance like nobody's watching, write like a group of smart undergrads are going to ask you in front of your friends "can you clarify what you meant when you wrote the words..."
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pig latin for my real friends, real latin for my pig friends
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honored to publish this beautiful, heartbreaking essay
"They don’t tell you, when you start on the long road toward your classics professor career, how much it might cost." Today, Nandini Pandey shares a moving piece on infertility and the costs of academia.
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just found a note I wrote to myself at some point while studying Ovid: "if it's legitimate rape, the body has ways of shutting the whole thing down, like by turning into a tree"
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Life hack: whenever I’m thinking about participating in the Classics Discourse I go and play video games until the urge passes
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so make no mistake: the recent conservative outcry against progressive Classics isn't just coming from outside the discipline. /fin
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It's the last day of
@eidolon_journal
and instead of feeling my feelings about it I decided to write an editorial telling the story of the publication from my perspective and arguing for the importance of open progressivism in Classics
"I’m going to share with you the story of Eidolon...and I hope that my story of this journey will inspire people to dream about what kind of change they want to make in Classics from here on." Editor-in-Chief
@donnazuck
on the story of Eidolon.
#Byedolon
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On days when my work gets me down I hope I’ll remember that someone once ended a review of my book with “Stoics, my ass”
When Sexually Frustrated Angry White Men (Mis)Read the
#Classics
. Sean Guynes-Vishniac considers NOT ALL DEAD WHITE MEN, a powerful study of the ways the alt-right distorts the understanding of ancient Greek and Roman literature :
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I just looked up the ingredients for eggnog, and is it just me or is it uncooked french toast but without the bread
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How does anyone in Assassin’s Creed: Odyssey build any monumental buildings when every marble quarry is full of bandits? Where does one actually quarry marble?
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Me when I discover I have a single thing in common with the mom of one of my kid’s classmates
Come to me now, then, free me
From aching care, and win me
All my heart longs to win. You,
Be my friend.
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My latest, on the scourge that is the “debate me” dude:
Perspective: The problems with online "debate me" culture
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I really underestimated both how many people would find this relatively obscure philosophy joke funny and how many of them would then immediately escalate to a joke about puppet masturbation
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Thank you to everyone who shared these difficult stories. I believe you.
An open letter from The Sportula to our Classics community, re: The Paideia Institute
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"Classics can only really start to think of itself as a global project once it has reckoned with how it has been invested all over the world in histories and ongoing realities of colonialism and racialized extractive capitalism of many kinds." 🔥🔥🔥
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happy fourth birthday to
@eidolon_journal
! let's celebrate by imagining Classics going up in flames and then figuring out what we'd rebuild from the ashes
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Ok but what about a “well” of misogynists
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classics friends, esp. in the Bay Area - I've got eight (!) boxes of Classics books to donate! Literature, history, Loebs, Teubners, you name it, it's in there. If anyone is interested or has other ideas for how to get them to a good new home, respond and I'll DM you!
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as with most comparisons between the contemporary world and antiquity, this comparison between Ajax and Trump tells us much less about either than it does about VDH as a reader of both
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also, to all the dudes saying things like "we should do a slow and careful investigation instead of relying on unverified stories," I have reams of receipts
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you can buy my book here if you're interested in learning more about trolls and the classical texts they love:
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the first draft of my review of this book full of racist apologia was 300% angrier:
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"My eagerness to prove that I 'understood' the language had only served to expose my shortcomings as a translator." love this by
@johannahan
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if there’s any two things you shouldn’t do, it’s sue people who don’t deserve it and leave a massive paper trail meticulously documenting how terrible you are. one word: discovery
The Legal Situation: Thread 👇🏽
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Oh good, I was getting tired of my “you still have high school credit needed to graduate” nightmares
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planning your courses for the fall? consider teaching with a brand-new Eidolon course packet!
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My 6yo just asked why we don’t celebrate Easter and I told him “we celebrate Passover, and that’s... enough for us” and he did not appreciate my excellent Haggadah humor
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looking for a writer interested in taking on a project at the intersection of white supremacist classics and the history of classical scholarship. respond if that sounds like you or someone you know!
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My book has amazing swag
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Thank you to the brave employees of the Paideia Institute for writing this and working for positive change
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"In this climate, it simply isn’t enough to talk amongst ourselves and vow to 'do better.' We need open discussions about race and publishing in Classics, with a focus on transparency and accountability." My latest for
@eidolon_journal
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Thank you to
@spectator
for this review of my book! Although this line makes me laugh: "Zuckerberg must have a strong stomach to spend as much time as she clearly does researching these people."
White supremacists are now appropriating Classical authors to lend authority to their vicious world view. Donna Zuckerberg is determined to fight back
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Regardless of the inaccuracies in this game (check out
#ACademicOdyssey
for more on that), it definitely gives an authentic experience of what talking to Socrates would have felt like
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since a few have asked, I'm re-upping this today in support of
@Libertinopatren
's brave article
recent articles in conservative publications Quillette, Breitbart, and The New Criterion make it clear that conservatives are feeling threatened by initiatives to make Classics a more diverse and inclusive field
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Love the feeling of opening the microwave to heat up a cup of coffee and discovering inside an older, slightly mummified cup of coffee of indeterminate age
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Eagerly awaiting subversive fan fiction about trans witches and wizards using polyjuice potion to help with dysphoria
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Classics Twitter needs a version of this wonderful thread
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Imagine actually writing in an email that you think a special issue on antiracism would benefit from opposing perspectives
#RaceB4Race
#AcademicTwitter
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no, YOU spent an hour of your morning writing extremely nerdy textual criticism jokes
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It’s Jane Austen’s birthday and, to my chagrin, last week I discovered I have reached the inevitable point in every Austen fan’s life when one realizes that Persuasion is superior to Pride and Prejudice
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I have the best team
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here I am answering some questions for
@insidehighered
about the impact of misogyny on the study of the classics
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Since
@newcriterion
thinks
@eidolon_journal
doesn’t publish enough white men, I look forward to sharing quotations from my white, male former colleagues at
@Paideiainstitut
clarifying what really happened in my “palace coup”
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For my last non-editorial
@eidolon_journal
article, I wrote about Lysistrata and feminist activism (the topic of my next book!)
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Delighted to announce that I’m handing over my follow-up article “How to Be a Bad Classicist Under an Adequate Emperor” to VDH to obsessively write and rewrite for the next four years
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I really enjoyed talking to
@salvadordahlia
from
@BitchMedia
last week about NOT ALL DEAD WHITE MEN, the normalization of Red Pill ideas, the rhetoric of false rape allegations, and Socrates as the first troll:
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well I hadn't ever asked myself "what would it sound like if an MRA channeled Apollo from the Eumenides," yet now I know anyway
Men hold the copyright to babies because their sperm creates life and women's eggs are just sort of the baby house, confused anti-abortion MRA explains
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