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"Ugh! Normal people do not find (insert taboo subject) okay in fiction!"
Game of Thrones was one of the most watched shows in modern history, and it has literally every single type of dark theme in fiction that antis could possibly hate.
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I really need minors and antis to understand:
"Adult Spaces" DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN "This area is full of porn".
Casinos are adults only spaces, but there's no porn being displayed at casinos.
"Adults Only" means just that: ADULTS. ONLY.
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Anyone else excited to see how these new (toxic) anime fans who started during quarantine are gonna handle going to cons?
I've already seen antis say shit like, "I'm scared I'll accidentally buy merch from a proshipper!"
Who's gonna tell them?
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Anyways, my point is:
If ""normal people"" didn't think taboo subjects were okay in fiction, why are they COMMON tropes in adult media??? Do you think maybe it has something to do with the fact that adults can seperate fiction from reality and are mature enough to handle it???
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Here's a reality check for you guys that I truly need you guys to take to heart:
Using cutesy, flowery language like "diddle" or "no-no-square" or "kiki" to describe anatomy or sex crimes against children ONLY benefits child abusers.
@trulybliss
actually its quite normal for people to be uncomfortable with the word "molest" and to use alternatives
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I'm not saying antis have fucked up priorities...
But calling randos on the internet pedos over anime when Tennessee is literally trying to legalize child marriages again tells you all you need to know about antis.
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There's incest and attempted child murder in episode one. There's rape, there's more incest, there's pedophilia, there's more incest, there's romanticization of arranged marriages and pedophilia, there's incest, there's murder, there's incest...
You get the point.
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It's honestly shocking how "What people enjoy in fiction has nothing to do with you, is not an attack towards you, and isn't a measurement of their morality. If you don't like something don't interact with it." has become a controversial take.
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Tangled? Eugene is 26 and Rapunzel is JUST turning 18. Snow White was 14, the Prince was 31. Prince Philip was 20, Aurora just turned 16. Mulan is 16, Shang is 23.
Oh and then there's Once Upon a Time, which is a Disney property, where Rumplestiltskin (300) marries Belle (20s).
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And I already hear you...
"But the law of averages! Game of Thrones is an outlier and should not be counted!"
Okay. Let's talk Disney princesses.
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"Well normal adults don't watch Disney-"
Okay, Grey's Anatomy it is. Let's see...Should we talk about Christina Yang and how she canonically slept with her professor in med school, and then slept with Burke (her boss)?
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The Handmaid's Tale is literally about fertile women being forced into sex slavery and being raped and used as breeding cattle for the rich and powerful.
Wasn't there rape in The Walking Dead at some point? I don't remember...It's been forever since I've watched it.
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Meredith also sleeps with her boss, Derek, but that's the whole plot of the show.
Now do we wanna mention Mark Sloane and Lexi Grey? Because they have an entire conversation where Mark says he feels "dirty" upon learning Lexi is only 24 when they start sleeping together.
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Antis are literally a cult, and you've drank the Koolaid, kiddo.
Congratulations on being so deeply groomed by Antis, you have no idea which way is up!
So lemme break down that cult mentality for you:
// grooming ment.
some of you have got to learn that minors who id as “prosh*p” are 90% of the time being groomed
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No? Too girly?
Lotta people watch Shameless...
Do we want to disect everything that goes on in that show??? Caaaaause...I don't think you do.
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I used to think like that.
Then I almost ended up hospitalized for self-harm, and my therapist introduced me to art therapy. She suggested I write or draw stories about my abuse (I'm a CSA survivor), and told me creating is always better than destroying.
@Kururinshizuku
@OnyxTheOwl101
There’s a difference between cutting yourself and SUPPORTING INCEST AND PEDOPHILA HELLO??
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Who's gonna tell them that most artists in an Artist Alley sell NSFW art of whatever is the most popular fandoms at the time (MHA, Genshin, AoT, ect.) because it sells well?
Who's gonna tell them that there are entire booths dedicated to selling Hentai, Yaoi, and Yuri?
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I can't wait for them to go through a birth by fire when they realize anti culture is NOT the norn in public spaces.
It's gonna be so humbling for so many of them. Especially if they try to police veteran cosplayers and con goers. Like soooooo aren't ready for it.
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With all this info about Kyle Carrozza dropping, this feels like a good time to remind everyone;
Psychology can not find any correlation between someone's taste in fiction and their likelihood to commit crimes. Someone liking loli art does not make them more likely to be a pedo.
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Who's gonna tell them about the MHA cosplayers who walk each other on leashes and collars?
Who's gonna tell them about all of the PDA, Pocky Games, scantily clad cosplayers, and 18+ panels?
What about grown men carrying around Nezuko bodypillows they bought in the Dealers Hall?
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I've had antis claim I've been brainwashed by proshippers, and let me explain why the opposite is true.
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Wait till they find out about yaoi/yuri paddles, or the NSFW bedroom shoots that go on in hotel rooms.
I'm deadass so excited to watch them go through a crisis when they realize they're put of their element. It's gonna add so many years to my lifespan.
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Like can you imagine these little kids going to their first con and the first thing they see is a couple cosplaying Sebastian and Ciel, holding hands and making out? Or some burlesque take on a character like Deku and Bakugo?
Do you think they'll spontaneously combust? 🤣🤣🤣
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I'm so sick of minors and antis acting like adults can't have adults only spaces in fandoms because the media the fandom is for is "child oriented".
That'd be like saying Western anime fans can't have their own fandom spaces because they're not the target audience of anime. 🙄
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I've risen from my hiatus.
@catboymoments
You can delete your tweets, but the damage is done. We have the screenshots of your attempt at bullying
@iamlunasol
by posting photos of them without consent, which goes against
@AnimeMatsuri
guidelines.
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Cause that IS a real thing!
When I was 17 I reported a 40+ year old man for touching me inappropriately, and the staff member I talked to told me that man was on the CWL, and he was going to be hit with a life ban. I was like 👀👀👀.
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Yes, the word "molest" is uncomfortable. Being molested is uncomfortable.
However, if you ever go to the police, and have to file a police report about molestation, especially for a child, you HAVE to use the exact word "molest" to be taken seriously.
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WRONG! Our panel's content was almost entirely PG-13! We were just all in our twenties, had all been drinking and smoking 🍃, and we didn't want to babysit/deal with kids after 9pm on a Saturday while intoxicated!!!
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We have a pool at my work that has "Adults Only" days/hours. Do you think adults are fucking in a public, outdoor, hotel pool?
NO! Not typically! There are extremely rare instances, but 99% of the time, it's a no!
So STOP freaking tf out over "adults only" spaces, you fucks!
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That's it.
And we got stalked, harassed, and even booed as we left the panel...Because people always assume that "Adults Only" means something sexual, when sometimes it LITERALLY just means we don't want to be around children.
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Idk how true those accusations are, but I know people in my area dunk on you hardcore if you go to any of his cons.
Also like, imagine their surprise when they find out there are entire "Con Watch" lists at cons dedicated to documenting who real life creeps are.
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@CreatorTan
EXACTLY!!!
Every time I bring up GoT to antis, especially young antis, they're like, "Why does that matter? I haven't even seen it. 🤨"
HONEY....IT IS A BILLION DOLLAR FUCKING TITLE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THAT SHOW MADE AND CONTINUES TO MAKE OFF MERCH????
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And no, Rebecca, you can't "care about both, actually" when you're wasting all of your time and energy yelling at adults who simp for some anime loli, instead of spreading awareness for a problem that will effect thousands of children.
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The BG3 fandom is back at it again, harassing each other over-...*checks notes*...Astarion fans getting his scars tattooed on their bodies, because "Those are marks of slavery, and you guys should listen to black fans when they say it's offensive to get them tattooed."
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Kids these days in the anime community have it too fucking easy tbh.
Back in the day we had Pedo Bear, "R*pe is just surprise sex you didn't know you wanted!" jokes, and people deadass making their friends watch Boku no Pico because watching their reactions was "funny".
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Better yet:: Imagine their surprise when they find out the con they're going to is HOSTED by someone who's been accused of being a pedophile!!!
Like a lot of Chicago-based cons are all held by one guy who's been accused of sexual assault and pedophilia. 😬
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Me: Adults only spaces are just soaces for adults to exist without kids around. It's not always about sex. My job has an adults only time for the pool.
Kids:
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My Hero Academia was first serialized in July of 2014, and the first manga volume was released in Japan in November 2014 (7 years ago). The first season of the anime was released in Japan in 2016 (5 years ago).
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Reminds me of the time my friends and I caught flack at a Chicago anime convention one year because we hosted an 18+ MHA panel, and some antis thought we meant the 18+ as something sexual because "obviously an 18+ can ONLY be sexual"! Right?
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Cults use 4 major tactics to gain and keep followers, and they're pretty simple to remember:
•Picking the right target
•Love-Bombing
•Isolation
•Keeping control
Still with me? Okay. Let's break down these tactics.
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Take it from someone who's done it. Take it from someone whose friends have done it.
When you're questioned, even as a child, about what happened to you, if you can not use anatomical terms correctly, they will not believe you!!!
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It is SO important to teach children the correct anatomical terms for their genitalia, in case they ever experience sexual assault.
It is SO important to force yourself to be comfortable saying terms like "molest" and "rape", because beating around the bush will get you nowhere.
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And why has there been so many antis outed as actual predators, but proshippers very rarely have predators in their midst????
Why is is antis have to qualms about bullying and harassing people, including minors, to death, but worry about what proshippers are doing to children???
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So please;
If you truly care about children, or the victims of sex crimes in general, stop using flowery language.
Call it what it is; Molestation. Rape. Abuse.
Do not pull your punches.
Call it what it is.
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their identities.
This is probably why you notice a disparity between Antis being minors and young adults, and Proshippers being older adults more often than not.
This is also why every single anti you come across is some sort of abuse survivor.
You guys are the prime targets.
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Beating around the bush, using flowery language, it leaves room for interpretation.
You do not want that in a court of law.
You do not want there to be ANY doubt about what happened, and you're already fighting an uphill battle speaking out anyway!
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Keep seeing kids on TikTok say that Yarchin Bitch Club is CP.
It's not.
You wanna know how I know it's not?
If Yarchin Bitch Club was CP, it wouldn't be sold at Barnes & Noble.
That's it. That's alk you need to know about whether or not it's CP.
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I remember one time I was arguing with an anti about whether or not victims of abuse should be able to cope publically or not, and she said, "Absolutely not! You need to keep that shit hidden!"
And I said, "You know, a lot of professional artists and musicians create based off
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Picking the right target means they find and go after anyone they believe is most susceptible to their influence, such as children or the emotionally vulnerable, such as abuse victims. College students are particularly easy for cults to influence, because they're still forming
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If you need anymore proof this discourse is over petty bullshit; Here you go. It's over petty bullshit.
The BG3 fandom is back at it again, harassing each other over-...*checks notes*...Astarion fans getting his scars tattooed on their bodies, because "Those are marks of slavery, and you guys should listen to black fans when they say it's offensive to get them tattooed."
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Yes, I said fear.
Their fear mongering is how they keep recruits from breaking rank and running off to join proshippers. Fear of being called a pedophile. Fear of being harassed. Fear of being doxxed or sent death threats.
All because of this campaign of abuse and vitriol
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Love-Bombing is easy to spot. Cults, once they've identified a target, will flood the person with affection, reassurance, and the validation that vulnerable person craves.
Really great cult recruiters will make themselves appear to be your new bestfriend and even feign mutual
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Hence why Antis are so adamant about calling all Proshippers pedophiles, despite evidence to support their claims and laws backing Proshipper's rights to enjoy fictional media.
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And it really makes you wonder...
Those rare antis that ARE older adults...Why do they push to isolate young people so hard and put this fear of proshippers, a fear of pedophiles, so deeply into their brains???
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It is this cycle of grooming and abuse that rules Antis. Not proshippers.
Antis are a textbook example of a cult. I'd know, I was one for 5 years and was pretty damn good at being one until I woke tf up, broke free from that life and rhetoric, and grew up.
Now it's your turn.
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Dear minors;
"Antis DNI", "Minors DNI", "18+", and "🔞" are not challenges. They're clearly defined BOUNDARIES.
If you interact with someone who has those things in their bios/names/ect. you are breaching boundaries, but interacting with an unconsenting party.
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Also:
It is important to note that cults present their own perception of reality to new recruits.
This is why antis push the idea that everything and anything in fandom is pedophilia & the notion that fiction effects reality to the extreme, despite evidence proving it doesn't.
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Not to mention all the manipulation Antis use to garner sympathy from neutral third parties, such as claiming Proshippers are all pedophiles, or saying you're just a bunch of minors who are uncomfortable that adults are "romanticizing your abuse" or some shit.
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The final piece is Keeping Control.
It's very easy to keep control of antis once they're recruited, because they're in every single fandom, using the same rhetoric over and over again. They balance love and fear so perfectly no one notices how they manipulate one another.
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Maybe I'm just fucking old, or maybe I'm finally a fucking adult, but I literally do not see a point in bullying and harassing people for what they like in fiction.
It's fucking FICTION.
It's MAKE BELIEVE.
A person's BEHAVIOR in the REAL WORLD are what matters.
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and tell you to block outspoken Proshippers who might give you a reality check. They may also insist you drop any and all of your Proship friends.
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You wouldn't go see a movie you know would be triggering to you, just for the sake of harassing everyone in the theater, would you?
Of course not. So why do it online? Smdh.
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interests in things they know you're into to gain your trust.
This actually happened to me before I became an Anti-Reylo. "Shippers" sent me death threats for making a joke about the ship, and antis came to my defense and offered me camaraderie and validation.
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Isolation may not be so easily spotted when talking about online fandom spaces, since the isolation comes from you being alone in your room with no one physically there to speak to you and give you a reality check.
Isolation also comes when Antis create "block chains",
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Ultimately, the goal of isolation is to drown you in their rhetoric, and ensure that the only reality you, their new recruit, gets to experience is the one they fabricated and present to you.
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Antis have towards proshippers.
Antis have people so in fear of their abuse and harassment that those that don't willingly join them for their love, join them to avoid their wrath.
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Cause I will survive whatever I write. I might not survive whatever I do to my body.
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@BlazingTamaki
Honestly tho, I don't think people realize how normal it actually is to like "problematic" things in media, or even how normal it is to have intrusive "problematic" thoughts.
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It is SUUUUUPER easy to find common interests when talking about the cult that is Fandom Antis, since the same rhetoric can be copy/pasted to every single fandom out there.
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Minors do not belong in 18+ spaces. This includes kink spaces.
Minors can have kinks in PRIVATE, because broadcasting them can make them a target for pedophiles!!!!
This is why ADULTS can share kink stuff and minors cannot.
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I have lost track of how many 17-18 years olds I see on the internet these days who are absolutely upset and scared of getting older, because that means they can't openly like their confort characters/anime husbandos that they've had for years without being called pedophiles.
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their own life experiences and traumas. Are you saying they shouldn't share their art and music with us?"
And she bold-faced said, "YES! NO ONE WANTS TO SEE THAT!"
And that should be all you need to know about antis.
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@Red_Loop_Dude
@catboymoments
@iamlunasol
@AnimeMatsuri
Calling someone out for their abhorrent behavior that a 20 year old should know is unacceptable is not harassment. It's consequences for their actions.
And they didn't apologize. They said they've "acknowledged" what they did was wrong, yet I don't see anywhere where they
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"What makes you think you can SEXUALIZE these FICTIONAL CHARACTERS?!"
...I didn't have a childhood, because my innocence was stolen at a young age, when a pedophile decided to rape me, and molest me for months. I have never known what a positive sexual experience feels like,
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I LOVE when people bring up cutting to me, when before fiction I was hospitalized more than once for attempted suicide via cutting my wrists, and then steuggled with substance abuse.
You know what got me out of the hospital and off of drugs?
Fanfiction.
@discoursebuster
@OverReport
@MooMilk1211
@nif_riv
@r0b0fukk3r
@krystleURL
Also no offense but you probably should just not be coping in ugly ways 😟 coping =/= healthy, I cut myself as a coping mechanism right? Would someone be a gaslighter abuser victim hater if they told me that was dangerous and bad? NO !! 😭😭
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A minor on TikTok posted a video tagged "kinktok" "brat" "sub" "collaring", and the amount of MINORS I see defending this girl with, "Well it's JUST a fashion statement!" while completely ignoring her tags, and harassing adults who are trying to educate her and them on why that's
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You claim to have not known the degrees of harassment Luna has faced in the past but that doesn't excuse the blatant bullying you attempted by taking their photo without consent and posting it online, which you have yet to apologize for without making yourself out to be a victim.
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What we really need to focus on when looking for pedophiles in any online community is adults, like Kyle Carrozza, who are actively trying to gain the trust of minors and loudly announce that they are a "safe adult".
That should always be your red flag.
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So no. I wasn't brainwashed by proshippers. I finally had a chance to step away from antis and recognize the toxic behavior in anti spaces, especially after being subjected to it personally, and made a personal change on my own to be better.
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@AlonWoof
They really don't get it.
They literally don't believe that most normal, healthy adults have a very "proship" attitude towards fiction.
Because what matters to normal, healthy people is how you treat others. Not the fiction you consume.
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Also? If I remember correctly from my friends dropping the lore to me...The scar is a piece of a contract, not of ownership, but a contract with a devil that essentially sacrifices that soul to the devil?
Those aren't symbols of enslavement. They're symbols of abuse.
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That Joshua dude really left an awful taste in my mouth.
Their use of "actual queer kids" and the whole fujoshi discourse just reminds me of the gender critical cis gay men who have called me "a homophobic, predatory woman" before for being a bisexual trans man.
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Antis with "Proshippers DNI" in theor carrds: *interacts with a proshipper first and tries to harass them*
Proshippers: Don't you have school work to do???
Antis: YOU ARE AN ADULT WHY ARE YOU HARASSING CHILDREN ONLINE?! DO YOUR TAXES!!! LOL YOU JUST LOST THIS ARGUMENT!!!
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will still be the same 14 year old she is in the anime.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
Fictional characters are not real people. They do not age. Please stop treating their ages like they're important.
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Kids on the internet be like, "I'm afraid to go to anime conventions, because what if I run into a proshipper?!?!"
Y'all, some conventions still get Christian protesters outside of them like it's a PRIDE parade...
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@_bu_bba
@NemoEntropy
@trulybliss
Flowery verbage like that got my court case against my pedophilic rapist thrown out.
A pedophile rapist is walking free because I couldn't say the words "molest" or "rape". I said "grabbed" and "diddled".
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We had this anti who was 15 in our DMs screaming at us about how we were "promoting pedophilia" because "Keith is a minor".
"But we're both adults. We're both 23. These are just costumes." We argued.
"THIS IS INCEST AND PEDOPHILIA!!!"
They harassed us both for two days.
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Also, because this NEEDS to be said;
You can abuse people online.
You can.
Just because it's online doesn't mean it's not abuse.
If you mock someone being harassed, if you praise people for harassing someone; YOU. ARE. AN. ABUSER.
Period.
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Rmemeber kids:
"Safe adult" sounds super sus, because that means that adult is actively seeking out relationships with minors (platonic and otherwise), while "Minors DNI" is an adult that doesn't want any interaction with minors for the safety and comfort of both parties.
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I'm gonna piss off people for this one buuuut...
Anime was never intended for a Western audience.
A lot of fucking complaints I hear from Western fans, particularly Americans, when it comes to anime can LITERALLY be boiled down to cultural differences and a lack of
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Anti rhetoric really borrows from all over the place.
Fiction should only contain what is morally acceptable? Facists and Extreme Christians.
Fiction that contains sexual themes should be banned from all social media? TERFs.
Queer creators/fans are pedophiles? Homophobes.
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Why is this important to know???
Because some of you need to be humbled. Some of you do not realize how old some of these series are, and how long they've been around, and use the ages of the characters as gotchyas against fans who are 18 and older.
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That's what happened.
And some day a lot of antis will also experience the same thing, decondition themselves, and leave the anti cult behind. And when they do, I'll be here for them.
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They used multiple accounts to spam us the same picture of Keith saying, "Shiro, you're like a brother to me."
The funniest part was Sheith wasn't even our favorite ship. Klance was. And the picture? It was literally just us sharing a kiss. But that was "illegal".
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I can't even begin to imagine the real life mental harm this is causing young people these days.
Fictional characters are timeless. They are ageless. 10 years from now, I could sit down with my future kids and watch Inuyasha with them. And Kagome, who was once older than me,
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So I ended up alone.
And in my solitude, I had time to reflect on the things I had done, on the people I had hurt.
I no longer had antis around to enable my behavior, and it all caught up to me.
Especially when I joined a different fandom; The Voltron fandom.
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I've already said before I was the anti-Reylo blog on tumblr known as reylo-more-like-reyno, and that I originally started that blog because I was harassed by Reylo shippers for making a joke about the ship POTENTIALLY being incest.
I was then comforted by antis, and brought
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