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Mediating a new scientific revolution associated with the night dream of post-industrial society. (i.e. I build software & read feminist philosophy) ze/hir/hirs
Berkeley, CA
Joined October 2007
@unclebobmartin I don’t think Trust No Programmers But Me is workable either though. I trust some programmers, especially the ones I’ve personally worked with & know the integrity of. I purposefully build my community, because community is what serves us.
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@unclebobmartin Maybe code quality doesn’t matter after all🤷(though the empty timelines suggest otherwise) But if you don’t trust or respect programmers, I don’t see why they should trust that your advice would be good for them to follow.
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@unclebobmartin Engineers were asked to accomplish something that it wasn't clear was possible, and they succeeded by doing exactly what we know produces good software we can be proud of.
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@unclebobmartin I barely cared about Elon Musk before this: I'd even tried to buy a Tesla roof. But programmers gossip like Rachel Lynde, and my allegiance will always be to my fellow programmers over billionaires.
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@unclebobmartin I know people who worked there at the time it was purchased. "Lines of code written" was used to judge productivity, which made people who write e2e tests look great & people who wrote in elegant languages get fired. I also know people who have worked at Tesla & SpaceX.
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@unclebobmartin This is the kind of justification that fascinates me. Code quality matters…until someone you support doesn’t do it. It is very common: humans tend to choose policies based on what leaders we like support rather than the other way around.
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@unclebobmartin I totally agree. If Musk were one of them, Twitter might not have lost 30 billion dollars in valuation. It might still be able to pay its bills.
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@BorisKosoric So when you say he is an "expert in reliable software development", that is based on ... vibes? Personally I prefer data & evidence, but you do you I guess. (My bio is a reference to Donna Haraway's poem The Cyborg Manifesto, if you're missing the reference.)
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@hankgreen If there is a byline, it should be the person who chose the story from the computer-generated output. They are responsible for what they publish. If there is no human in the loop, that isn't publishing: that's just spam.
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@tottinge One of the nice thing in Javascript is how the quick-start boilerplates all come with testing already set up. It means it's no harder to set up a project to TDD than it is to just set up a project. This may be why we see more tests in public repos people use: no reason not to.
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@BorisKosoric That is still an odd way to frame a conversation. He is largely unfamiliar with my area of expertise, reliable software development. I don't know very much about raising money to support ambitious projects. I am sure we could both learn from each other.
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