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Ottoman Empire sent a delegation to China during the Boxer Rebellion to quell the Muslim Chinese rebels using the status of Caliphate, but the Muslim Chinese didn't know who the Caliph was and their whole idea of Islam was just not eating pork. Enver Pasha was disappointed.
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Germanic heritage of Germans (19%-40%) is similar to Turkic heritage of Turks (20%-40%). Funnily enough I dont see much global obsession with Germans DNA as opposed to the Turks.
~90% of German ancestry comes from the Iron Age populations of Germany, which includes pre-Germanic Celts. This increases to >95% when you model them with Early Medieval Germans. Their remaining ancestry comes from neighboring Medieval Balts or Slavs (the % varies by region).
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@Peter_Nimitz Yes. A similar point was made by Tadao Umesao who proposed that Japan and Western Europe developed because they were far from the "Dry Area" which was prone to conquests and invasions but at the same time close to the classical civilizations to copy them.
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@Peter_Nimitz -Hunnic cavalry can't reach the swamps where the Slavs live.-All the Germanics in the plains and hills are raided/conquered, Eastern Germanics flee westwards.-200 years later almost the entirety of Eastern Europe is Slavic.
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So why is @cremieuxrecueil whining about Turkey "testing its fifth graders" when the age matters more and Norway did the same thing anyway?.4th grade average age for Turkey was 10.9.4th grade average age for Norway was 10.8.Norway is 10% at advanced benchmark and Turkey is 24%.
The country of Turkey really wanted to stand out for its high-performing schools, so when every other country tested their fourth graders in mathematics, Turkey tested its fifth graders, crushed the fourth-graders, and proclaimed 'We surpassed ALL OF EUROPE'.
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@sharghzadeh There is already an article about this and it's wrong. Ottomans were aware of their Central Asian heritage and identified as Turks.
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@SyroJaziran Similarly the Qizilbash leaders considered Persian to be a "soft" and "sweet" language used by women in poetry whereas Turkish was more masculine and was suitable for men and warriors, so it was the language of Shahs and Emirs.
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Japanese map from 1933 showing Turanian peoples. Turan starts from Scandinavia and ends at Tokyo.
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To be honest the situation wasn't very much different in the Ottoman Empire either. There is a WW1 anecdote where the Turkish/Anatolian conscripts didn't know the name of their prophet and one even stating he thought the prophet was Enver Pasha.
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Linguistic map of the Kingdom of Hungary at the end of the 15th century
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Only Indians and Iranians are impressed by Aryans. OG Aryans were enslaved by Proto-Finno-Permics, if anything, being Finnish should be the mark of a superior person.
I am White, I'm the original Aryan. You're the product of Jutes, Angles, and other barbaric Germanic tribes.
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Genetic similarity of an Anatolian (Nicaean) Byzantine person from the Medieval period
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Difference between Xiongnu and Gokturk beliefs.Xiongnu: Most likely polytheist, human sacrifice, worship of celestial objects.Gokturks: Worships only one Tengri, sacrifices animals to Tengri, veneration of natural elements
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Frenchman who came to Ottoman Empire as an anti-Turk G-Weeb converted to Turkophile and Anti-Greek after he left Ottoman Empire.
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Anime really saved Japan’s PR cuz when you read up on their history they did some of the worst things ever.
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@K4zanin @suncat4 @chebu_sigma @feto2847 Sorry to break your cuck fetish but Central Asian y-dna and mtdna in Turks are roughly the same.
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>Original.>Persian.Literally any Turkic language is more native to Central Asian than Persian is. Tajiks are just Sogdians that picked up Persian, their original language is Yaghnobi.
⚡️BREAKING . Tajikistan has banned Turkic and Soviet names and started renaming villages with their original Persian names
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American GI opinions on the Japanese and the Germans.42%-58% of the GIs in the Pacific and Europe wanted the extermination of Japanese people.22-24% of the GIs in the Pacific and Europe wanted the extermination of German people
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Türk takipçilere olayın özeti: TIMSS sonuçlarında 10 yaşındaki Türk öğrencilerin Avrupalı öğrencileri geçmesine ardı yanıp yalan uyduran Cremieux adlı şahıs insanları yanlış yönlendirmektedir. Çünkü Türk öğrenciler ile Avrupalı öğrenciler aynı yaştadır, daha büyük değiller.
So why is @cremieuxrecueil whining about Turkey "testing its fifth graders" when the age matters more and Norway did the same thing anyway?.4th grade average age for Turkey was 10.9.4th grade average age for Norway was 10.8.Norway is 10% at advanced benchmark and Turkey is 24%.
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@airkatakana I have seen normies criticizing Japan for having a "social credit system". It's not even about Korea anymore it's straight up China.
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@Isbara11 Benzeri bir çalışma "Anadolu %10 Türk" siyasi iddiasına (bilimsel bir iddia değil) da gelir umarım.
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@sapphiregnm A large chunk of the Yellow River heritage comes from Liao culture which was probably an ancestral culture of Korean and Japanese cultures
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Claude Farrere who visited the Ottoman Empire stated that the cats of Istanbul in the Turkish/Muslim quarters were friendly and not afraid of humans whereas cats that lived in Christian quarters were afraid of humans because "Eastern Christians were cruel towards anything weak"
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-Not a single West African nation was a satellite of the Ottoman Empire especially in 1400s.-Stop being obsessed with us and keep us out of your chud complaints.
>treat women better.>ottoman satellite nation. Someone is crazy woke at the Kingdom Come studio. Completely delusional.
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Moon eclipse in the 19th century Istanbul, the description and image is credited to the French author/adventurer Pierre Loti, and it describes the Ottoman Turks of Istanbul shooting at the Moon during a lunar eclipse to save it from a dragon eating it.
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Osmanlı İmparatorluğu'nu ziyaret eden ve Türkler üzerine 1915 yılında kitap yazan Nagase Hōsuke'nin izlenimlerinden bazıları. Fiziksel özellikler üzerine Yörüklerin görünüm bakımından Rusya'da yaşayan Tatarlardan hiçbir farkının olmadığını yazmış.
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@sharghzadeh "or the Iranian history of Azerbaijan to an Azeri,".It's the opposite, even the "secular" Persians who hate Iran hate Azerbaijan more and claim how AZARIs are a part of Eyeron for 90000 years. They also spawn in Armenian threads and say "saaar we support you saaaar" to Armenians.
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Population comparison of Germany and Turkey between the years 1500-2024 in millions. Made per request. Turkey here means modern day Thrace and Anatolia. Germany means mainland Germany.
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175k likes for this low IQ garbage btw.
Does anyone have that article saying the criminalization of “noise” is colonial & is a sign of gentrification? Why do colonialists/white tourists/gentrifiers hate noise?.
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Looks like the future of East Asia is Mongolian.hashtag yes we KHAN
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Feminism in South Korea is declining.
take a page from the feminists in south korea .
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This shows that in 1920s Greece was an actual threat to Turkey and it could actually occupy large chunks of Anatolia and Thrace.
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I have seen people from Ethiopia, Spain, Portugal, China, South Korea, the US, Greece, Armenia, Romania, Australia, India, Bangladesh, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Cyprus telling us how we are genetically not Turkic and not Turks. Turkishness causes global seethe and butthurt.
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@cremieuxrecueil "They only sample elite schools".What the flying fuck are you on about? Only 81% of the 8th graders reached low benchmark meaning 19% of the kids are literally mathematically illiterate. They tested equally hence the disproportionate numbers.
Because of this and the fact that they also only sample elite schools and totally fail to meet the sampling frame, when I make a post on this test later today, I will be removing Turkey from the picture. Their educational policymakers are just too dishonest.
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Ottomans not having a landed aristocracy was very bad for the development of local regions. Centralized states unless very rich can't develop every part of the country.
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The word "republic" in Arabic languages is Arabic in origin, but it was first used in Ottoman Turkish. Reminds me of how some Meiji-era Japanese loanwords are Sinitic in origin but used in other East Asian languages as well.
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I think that had it not been for Gokturks, the Turkic people would have been most likely called "Hunnic".
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Z kuşağı ve belki bu kuşaktan çok az bir süre önce doğmuş Y kuşağı Türkler önceki nesillerden akademik ve büyük ihtimal aklen çok daha ileride.
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Istanbul cats received "media" attention as far as 1591
Divided world divided cats. The whole Muslim world has cats everywhere from 🇧🇩 to 🇲🇦 but the Istanbul cats get better care of, being in a wealthier city, receive more media attention and soften turkkkeys media image.
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I remember encountering a post about a Frenchman encountering 6 or 8 Turkmens and among them there was a woman who carried a quiver. When he asked about it he was told how there were 30,000 female warriors in one of the 15th century Turkish states.
The Mughal tradition was to use Tartar, Uzbek, and Georgian women both to carry palanquins and to stand sentry at night in the harem. Bernier relates a story of an Uzbek female warrior single-handedly defeating a small contingent of Mughals.
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If Greek accounts are to be believed, the Ottomans were also involved in human sacrifice. Murad II bought 600 slaves and offered them up a sacrifice to his father.
Difference between Xiongnu and Gokturk beliefs.Xiongnu: Most likely polytheist, human sacrifice, worship of celestial objects.Gokturks: Worships only one Tengri, sacrifices animals to Tengri, veneration of natural elements
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The Arabic word for plane is similarly Arabic in origin, but it was borrowed from Ottoman Turkish where the term was first coined.
The word "republic" in Arabic languages is Arabic in origin, but it was first used in Ottoman Turkish. Reminds me of how some Meiji-era Japanese loanwords are Sinitic in origin but used in other East Asian languages as well.
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The are 2 differences between Japanese soft power and Korean soft power.1- Japanese soft power is directed at men, Korean soft power is directed at women.2- Japanese soft power is older than Korean soft power which is like 14 years old or something.
anime has done crazy things for japan, there are so many cracked white dudes who speak excellent japanese *and* are world class at what they do. don’t think there’s a single one of these people in korea, at least in technical fields
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Steppe discourse needs to be repaired. Scythians were not Turkic, though this does not mean Persians are genetically more related to them than, for example, Kazakhs are. Descendants of Scythians became Turkic.
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Small population wasn't unique to the Turks in the Muslim world. Kingdom of Sicily had more population than Egypt and Sudan combined in 1848. Bohemia was more populated than Levant, Arabia and Iraq combined in the same year as well.
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Turkey has a nascent, mostly defense oriented semiconductor industry. And Turkey is planning to produce chips down to below 7nm, maybe something might come out of it in the next 20 years?
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Greek rebellion fails, Greece becomes an Albanian pashalik for all eternity
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While science is cumulative, none of the places other than Western Europe and North America achieved "the Great Divergence" until the 19th century. So yes Western Europe is cradle of modern science.
Much of Europe's scientific 'renaissance' was built on knowledge from Muslim, Indian, and Chinese civilizations. They preserved, innovated, and excelled while Europe was in the Dark Ages. So why do textbooks still frame Europe as the sole cradle of modern science?
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@Tom_Rowsell They were enslaved by Finns.
Only Indians and Iranians are impressed by Aryans. OG Aryans were enslaved by Proto-Finno-Permics, if anything, being Finnish should be the mark of a superior person.
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Buradan çıkarabileceğim sonuç Türkiye'nin insan sermayesi 90'larda ve 90'lardan sonra doğan nesil. Bu nesil Türkiye'yi ekonomik anlamda ve insan sermayesi alanında kaldırabilir.
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TIL: Vietnamese Muslims are Shia.
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1870 yılında Türkiye'de (yani Osmanlı dönemi) resmi anlamda eğitim görmüş kişi oranı yüzde 0.2'ymiş.
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2050'ye kadar Türkiye'nin yüksek gelirli bir 1. Dünya Ülkesi olması lazım. Ondan sonra nüfus işini Orta Asyalı göçmenlerle (Dünyada Türkleşmesi Azerbaycanlılardan sonra en kolay etnik gruplar Orta Asya'da var) halletmek lazım.
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@ghostofhellas Influence of Turkish culture otherwise Byzantines hated cats.
Claude Farrere who visited the Ottoman Empire stated that the cats of Istanbul in the Turkish/Muslim quarters were friendly and not afraid of humans whereas cats that lived in Christian quarters were afraid of humans because "Eastern Christians were cruel towards anything weak"
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O çocuklar büyüdü ve Ekşi'de kendilerine efsanevi nesil diyor btw. Kendilerinin bayağı eğitimli olduğunu da iddia ediyorlar. "Tiktok nesli" bunlardan 17 kat daha kalifiye.
TIMSS 1999'da Türk 8. sınıf öğrencilerinin sadece %1'i en üst %10'luk dilime girmişti. TIMSS 2023'te Türk 8. sınıf öğrencilerinin %17'si en üst %10'luk dilime giriyor. Bu Avrupa'daki ve Orta Doğu'daki en büyük oran.
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This coal poster is actually right btw this was already proven in a study this is only denied by communists whose ideology collapsed in 1991 and should no longer be taken seriously
Reminder that the "Russian Empire was backward and not industrialized" meme is pure Marxist propaganda. In reality, the late Russian Empire was industrializing at a much faster rate than the Soviet Union in the 1920s.
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Population comparison of France and Turkey between the years 1500-1800 in millions.Turkey here means modern day Thrace and Anatolia. France means mainland France.
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A bunch of Sogdians with 1/3 Turkic heritage roleplaying as Persian poets. Literally a country full of shargzadehs.
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I think that some online Islamists are wrongly attributing the "inferiority complex" of some people from Turkey towards Europe to secularism. The root cause is most likely a by-product of relative European economic might vis-a-vis rather than cultural cringe.
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@RAftenie7899 @Peter_Nimitz In the case of Balkans the Slavs had a major impact. Even the Mainland Greeks have a lot of Slavic DNA.
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@t_acaru Bu sadece şiddet içeren suçlar için. 20k Cezayirli'nin 13k'sı şüpheli aslında, internetten bulabildiğim kadarıyla.
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Christians and Muslims in the Ottoman Empire (in this example) didn't pay much tax. Tax rate was low.
embarrassing people who betrayed their faith and kissed ottoman boots just to dodge jizya.
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Ottoman Empire for comparison:
Russia had a population of 15 million in 1717, 44 million in 1817 and 154 million in 1917 when infant mortality was high. One Russian woman is known to have given birth to 69 children. (Russian population pyramid in 1927, steeper than any Afreakan country today)
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There are almost no native Turkish words, aside from a few exceptions, starting with the initials R or L. This is the same in Japanese, there are no native Japanese words starting with the initial R and L sound doesn't exist.
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Europe was already ahead of rest of the world by 1500s per capita wise.
While science is cumulative, none of the places other than Western Europe and North America achieved "the Great Divergence" until the 19th century. So yes Western Europe is cradle of modern science.
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@avrilbradley23 Found it! According to Tadao Umesao, Tokugawa Shogunate got behind the UK because it adopted the policy of external isolation. Without this, Tokugawa Japan would have achieved the Industrial Revolution at about the same time as the UK.
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@K4zanin @suncat4 @chebu_sigma @feto2847 East Eurasian mt-dna is also above East Eurasian y-dna. There isn't any "Central Asian men having harem" scenario.
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Considering that most Qizilbash were just Anatolian Turks, Anatolian Turks did indeed rule over Iran until the Pahlavids.
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@absbadass255 @sharghzadeh Whitewashing warning above.Ottomans identified as Turks and were Turks.
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Byzantines hated this btw.
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Bismarck commented that the difference between Japan and China was the Japanese wanted to learn from the West to transform their nation on every single aspect while the Chinese were only interested in prices for the Western weapons and how to build them. China lost later.
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And mind you for the Kemalists the situation was more dire. All of Thrace and a large chunk of Western Anatolia was lost, so the population base was smaller than 13 million. Probably close to 9 million.
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Alevis of Anatolia/Ottoman Empire were called Qizilbash until the late 19th century, the term Qizilbash was replaced by the term "Alevi" during the reign of Abdulhamid II as part of his conciliatory policies (Qizilbash had a negative connotation in Anatolia and still has)
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My favorite Japanese Wikipedia page is Toruko Raisu (Turkish Rice) on Wikipedia. Because Turkish Rice in Japan is in fact not Turkish, and nobody is sure why it's called Turkish. 96 different sources are used on the page alone, mostly to explain the origin.
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Cats were liberated in 1453. Byzantines hated cats.
Today marks the anniversary of the liberation of Istanbul in 1453. On this day, the Turkish army, led by Sultan Mehmed II, entered Istanbul, transforming it into a vibrant center of culture and trade.
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This was the last Borjigin ruler in Europe, Şahin Giray, Khan of Crimea.
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TIMSS 1999'da Türk 8. sınıf öğrencilerinin sadece %1'i en üst %10'luk dilime girmişti. TIMSS 2023'te Türk 8. sınıf öğrencilerinin %17'si en üst %10'luk dilime giriyor. Bu Avrupa'daki ve Orta Doğu'daki en büyük oran.
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Türkler aslında tarih öncesi atalarının genetiğini belli bir ölçüde korumayı başarmış, Sibirya'daki avcı toplayıcı atalarımız (ANA) ile olan genetik bağımız %9-15 civarında, Korelilerle Japonlar da aynı gruptan çıkma ve onların genetik bağı %21-24 civarında. Mançular %10.
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@avrilbradley23 I remember reading about how Tokugawa Shogunate could have industrialized ON ITS OWN had it not been for their secluded policies from a Japanese historian. Actually let me find it.
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Reddit'te bunların kümelendikleri subredditler var btw. Bir tane Kıpti Mısırlı aylarca sırf bunun üstüne yazmıştı en son gördüğümde artık nasıl bir yangınsa.
I have seen people from Ethiopia, Spain, Portugal, China, South Korea, the US, Greece, Armenia, Romania, Australia, India, Bangladesh, Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Cyprus telling us how we are genetically not Turkic and not Turks. Turkishness causes global seethe and butthurt.
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